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Jul 6, 2022 9:00 AM
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Everyone is here for the plot, The Plot- Ooopppaiiiii. Another generic harem(kinda) show with a shy, innocent protagonist getting hooked with a matured hot chick, Has a childhood friend who has a crush on him. Manga readers, Will this get any better in the future?
Jul 6, 2022 9:09 AM
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Huh? Please list me all the shows featuring a mature hot chick as the main girl and actual kissing in the first episode? Please.
Jul 6, 2022 9:10 AM
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Yeah definitely
It's just the beginning that is pretty generic but in the manga when the story start it get pretty interesting
So I definitely recommend you to stay a little bit more
Jul 6, 2022 9:13 AM
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The plot you mentioned is not worth for this one, atleast for me, if i have to watch for that plot, i would prefer watching something else, like the one ongoing this Season if yk, i am just watching this one cause why not? like 6-7 Seasonals per week.
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Jul 6, 2022 9:19 AM
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NekoToChiru said:
Yeah definitely
It's just the beginning that is pretty generic but in the manga when the story start it get pretty interesting
So I definitely recommend you to stay a little bit more

I will take your words!
Jul 6, 2022 9:21 AM
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my guy, theres a difference between being generic and just having the same tropes. yes it has the same harem tropes but if you seriously watched ep1 and thought to yourself I always see a mature big booked hundred year old NON LOLI all over an innocent wizard who is too op that even the spirits don't want him then I need those recommendations
Jul 6, 2022 9:22 AM
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itsrj20 said:
The plot you mentioned is not worth for this one, atleast for me, if i have to watch for that plot, i would prefer watching something else, like the one ongoing this Season if yk, i am just watching this one cause why not? like 6-7 Seasonals per week.
I love watching trash harem ecchi show lol..., but nowadays all shows feels the same. Author doesn't even try to do anything out of the box anymore. Probably cause in recent times the amount of hates a show gets for just being different.
Jul 6, 2022 9:23 AM
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titodacat said:
my guy, theres a difference between being generic and just having the same tropes. yes it has the same harem tropes but if you seriously watched ep1 and thought to yourself I always see a mature big booked hundred year old NON LOLI all over an innocent wizard who is too op that even the spirits don't want him then I need those recommendations

I said that based on first ep, Manga is popular that's why I asked.
Jul 6, 2022 9:27 AM
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IronHeartSA said:
itsrj20 said:
The plot you mentioned is not worth for this one, atleast for me, if i have to watch for that plot, i would prefer watching something else, like the one ongoing this Season if yk, i am just watching this one cause why not? like 6-7 Seasonals per week.
I love watching trash harem ecchi show lol..., but nowadays all shows feels the same. Author doesn't even try to do anything out of the box anymore. Probably cause in recent times the amount of hates a show gets for just being different.

Yeah, i got you, then don't forget to watch the one i was mentioning, for the plot you mentioned. 😾
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Jul 6, 2022 9:31 AM

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itsrj20 said:
IronHeartSA said:
I love watching trash harem ecchi show lol..., but nowadays all shows feels the same. Author doesn't even try to do anything out of the box anymore. Probably cause in recent times the amount of hates a show gets for just being different.

Yeah, i got you, then don't forget to watch the one i was mentioning, for the plot you mentioned. 😾
https://myanimelist.net/anime/44524

Thanks, R rated so yes it's already in my watch list lol...
Jul 6, 2022 9:56 AM

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That’s the point but generic doesn’t mean bad
Jul 6, 2022 10:20 AM

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BananaKuma said:
That’s the point but generic doesn’t mean bad

Yes but If a show is generic that means it's predictable thus not enjoyable. That's why I wanted to know does it get any better?
Jul 6, 2022 10:37 AM

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IronHeartSA said:
BananaKuma said:
That’s the point but generic doesn’t mean bad

Yes but If a show is generic that means it's predictable thus not enjoyable. That's why I wanted to know does it get any better?

Predictable = comfortable

That's an obvious industry rule bro, especially with these kinds. I personally came for this, and it's what I expected lol.

Jul 6, 2022 10:39 AM

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IronHeartSA said:

Yes but If a show is generic that means it's predictable thus not enjoyable. That's why I wanted to know does it get any better?

Predictable = comfortable

That's an obvious industry rule bro, especially with these kinds. I personally came for this, and it's what I expected lol.

Good point lol...
Jul 6, 2022 11:36 AM
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titodacat said:
my guy, theres a difference between being generic and just having the same tropes. yes it has the same harem tropes but if you seriously watched ep1 and thought to yourself I always see a mature big booked hundred year old NON LOLI all over an innocent wizard who is too op that even the spirits don't want him then I need those recommendations

Preach my bother, swear people just call everything generic these days.
Jul 6, 2022 11:59 AM
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kriissyy12 said:
titodacat said:
my guy, theres a difference between being generic and just having the same tropes. yes it has the same harem tropes but if you seriously watched ep1 and thought to yourself I always see a mature big booked hundred year old NON LOLI all over an innocent wizard who is too op that even the spirits don't want him then I need those recommendations

Preach my bother, swear people just call everything generic these days.
honestly, its just like literally and mid. People just don't know what these words mean anymore. Like a freaking multi century old NON LOLI, that in itself deserves praise.
Jul 6, 2022 12:50 PM
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kriissyy12 said:
Huh? Please list me all the shows featuring a mature hot chick as the main girl and actual kissing in the first episode? Please.

Engage kiss probably I mean it’s not main girl but ye
Jul 6, 2022 1:13 PM
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DracosAnime97 said:
kriissyy12 said:
Huh? Please list me all the shows featuring a mature hot chick as the main girl and actual kissing in the first episode? Please.

Engage kiss probably I mean it’s not main girl but ye


The other one is the same age as the MC, she's definitely not an older mature woman and not even a side character.
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titodacat said:
my guy, theres a difference between being generic and just having the same tropes. yes it has the same harem tropes but if you seriously watched ep1 and thought to yourself I always see a mature big booked hundred year old NON LOLI all over an innocent wizard who is too op that even the spirits don't want him then I need those recommendations


So, you're saying if something is like 80 % tropes presented in a very run-of-the-mill (unoriginal or well-tried, if you want) way, that still doesn't make it generic? What then would qualify as generic?

Also, it probably is just me being bad at English, but you pointing out her being an old non loli all over the wizard guy as special feels to me like "you see, she has pink-grey hair with green streaks (instead of some other colour that could be found slightly more often) - so it's like totally another genre and all". I mean she is still basically the big-tit nee-san being all over the meak-looking male mc (who himself is the prototype harem guy klutz thickhead - his superpower of choice being his amount of saved-up spunk ... which is also quite cliche).
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Dickegrobe said:
titodacat said:
my guy, theres a difference between being generic and just having the same tropes. yes it has the same harem tropes but if you seriously watched ep1 and thought to yourself I always see a mature big booked hundred year old NON LOLI all over an innocent wizard who is too op that even the spirits don't want him then I need those recommendations


So, you're saying if something is like 80 % tropes presented in a very run-of-the-mill (unoriginal or well-tried, if you want) way, that still doesn't make it generic? What then would qualify as generic?

Also, it probably is just me being bad at English, but you pointing out her being an old non loli all over the wizard guy as special feels to me like "you see, she has pink-grey hair with green streaks (instead of some other colour that could be found slightly more often) - so it's like totally another genre and all". I mean she is still basically the big-tit nee-san being all over the meak-looking male mc (who himself is the prototype harem guy klutz thickhead - his superpower of choice being his amount of saved-up spunk ... which is also quite cliche).
bro just tell me you have no friends instead of going all turbo virgin. And yes you can have all the tropes in the world and still manage to not be generic. Harem as a genre is as incestuous as isekai with so many of them borrowing from each other, doing the same thing. So yes in the fantasy/harem world a century old demon is usually a loli.
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IronHeartSA said:
Everyone is here for the plot, The Plot- Ooopppaiiiii. Another generic harem(kinda) show with a shy, innocent protagonist getting hooked with a matured hot chick, Has a childhood friend who has a crush on him. Manga readers, Will this get any better in the future?

No, unfortunately it gets worse, and a lot of characters just take up space (its mid personally). Just watch for the ecchi, if you are looking for plot you might be disappointed
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I was feeling the same way. I mean she is wearing the 'virgin killing sweater' after all. I was really hoping to an MC that was a gentleman and not an oblivious ...... I was really interested at first. As that is not just any demon. But... I have a bad feeling. I'm tired of the same basics. I'm not even sure it's a good ecchi .
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Kene_M said:
IronHeartSA said:
Everyone is here for the plot, The Plot- Ooopppaiiiii. Another generic harem(kinda) show with a shy, innocent protagonist getting hooked with a matured hot chick, Has a childhood friend who has a crush on him. Manga readers, Will this get any better in the future?

No, unfortunately it gets worse, and a lot of characters just take up space (its mid personally). Just watch for the ecchi, if you are looking for plot you might be disappointed
I'mma droping this asap lol... Can't stand those kinda MC!
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I was feeling the same way. I mean she is wearing the 'virgin killing sweater' after all. I was really hoping to an MC that was a gentleman and not an oblivious ...... I was really interested at first. As that is not just any demon. But... I have a bad feeling. I'm tired of the same basics. I'm not even sure it's a good ecchi .
It has a good art style, But why the protagonist has to be fuc*ing middle scholar lol... What a waste!
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titodacat said:
my guy, theres a difference between being generic and just having the same tropes. yes it has the same harem tropes but if you seriously watched ep1 and thought to yourself I always see a mature big booked hundred year old NON LOLI all over an innocent wizard who is too op that even the spirits don't want him then I need those recommendations


So, you're saying if something is like 80 % tropes presented in a very run-of-the-mill (unoriginal or well-tried, if you want) way, that still doesn't make it generic? What then would qualify as generic?

Also, it probably is just me being bad at English, but you pointing out her being an old non loli all over the wizard guy as special feels to me like "you see, she has pink-grey hair with green streaks (instead of some other colour that could be found slightly more often) - so it's like totally another genre and all". I mean she is still basically the big-tit nee-san being all over the meak-looking male mc (who himself is the prototype harem guy klutz thickhead - his superpower of choice being his amount of saved-up spunk ... which is also quite cliche).

Author just picked up popular tropes from popular shows and wrote the story. It's like a middle school kid wrote about his fantasy after watching lots of ecchi shows lol... Manga rating is also low. I think people are hyping this cause main female lead.
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kriissyy12 said:
Huh? Please list me all the shows featuring a mature hot chick as the main girl and actual kissing in the first episode? Please.

Engage kiss probably I mean it’s not main girl but ye

Are you really counting those kissing scenes as a kissing scene? lol...Few recents ones- Copy of Quetzalcoatl x Shouta from Miss Kobayashi's Dragon Maid.
Same old innocent boy getting hooked with matured hot chick with less ecchi- Tsukimichi -Moonlit Fantasy, The Duke of Death and His Maid(Not a harem)...
There are lot more. I have go through my library lol...
and First ep is just a copy of "Zero no Tsukaima" with way more ecchi elements.
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So older women with big boobs and kissing(low-key like demon incubus) with teenager.
The Isekai that I already watched Usually teenager and teenager with big boobs. Or become (baby) kid from originally adult pervert. Or that not pervert.
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titodacat said:
bro just tell me you have no friends instead of going all turbo virgin. And yes you can have all the tropes in the world and still manage to not be generic. Harem as a genre is as incestuous as isekai with so many of them borrowing from each other, doing the same thing. So yes in the fantasy/harem world a century old demon is usually a loli.

First, there is really no need to turn this into a verbal pissing contest by giving Dr Cox impressions (or whoever is your edge lord of choice). We've all been there at some point. It was fun (for a short time). Can we move on?
Second, serious question - where is the line between something made up almost completely from tropes and presented in a way the very same patterns have been presented numerous times before and something generic? Or: When does the one thing qualify as the other? To me the episode felt pretty much like:
IronHeartSA said:
It's like a middle school kid wrote about his fantasy after watching lots of ecchi shows ...
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Dickegrobe said:
titodacat said:
bro just tell me you have no friends instead of going all turbo virgin. And yes you can have all the tropes in the world and still manage to not be generic. Harem as a genre is as incestuous as isekai with so many of them borrowing from each other, doing the same thing. So yes in the fantasy/harem world a century old demon is usually a loli.

First, there is really no need to turn this into a verbal pissing contest by giving Dr Cox impressions (or whoever is your edge lord of choice). We've all been there at some point. It was fun (for a short time). Can we move on?
Second, serious question - where is the line between something made up almost completely from tropes and presented in a way the very same patterns have been presented numerous times before and something generic? Or: When does the one thing qualify as the other? To me the episode felt pretty much like:
IronHeartSA said:
It's like a middle school kid wrote about his fantasy after watching lots of ecchi shows ...
bro who tf is Dr cox, all I did was saying you went turbo virgin. And to answer your second point, there is no way to easily answer this. Cause we have stuff like konosuba which literally is as trope heavy as it can be, but it used the tropes to be very different. Now, this show is not like that, it does the bare minimum and stays entertaining, I think it truly becomes generic when you find nothing remotely original in the slightest. Like the fact he was so disgustingly op he actually was weaker than mostly everyone (this is a stretch, its the first episode so cut me some slack) or how what is usually a old ass loli, we get a old ass mature girl as the spirit.
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Congrats TC, you've solved the mystery. Oh so wise and bipolar judging from your replies.
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So generic? care to explain?

I mean how many Onesan (Milfs/Cougars) anime can you name that is even released par 5 years? not alone once a year

when you say generic what comes to my mind is something like Lolis harem

something that this show hopefully won't have

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kriissyy12 said:
Huh? Please list me all the shows featuring a mature hot chick as the main girl and actual kissing in the first episode? Please.

Engage kiss probably I mean it’s not main girl but ye


bad example, I mean are you blind? does the girl that the guy kiss looks like a mature lady or does she looks like a child?

frankly the only anime like this that I can think of is Saikin Yatotta Maid ga Ayashii

like how lucky can one be to get two animes where we can have finally some straight Shota? the only turn-off thing about these shows is that the creators always uses demon or immortal girls , The wait for a 100% human Onesan is still going
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You are absolutely right op. Its as generic and trashy as it gets. Its funny reading the comments of all these horny people in this thread lmao
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We're all here for the big titty demon onee-san and, if we're lucky, a bit if story on the side. It's really not that deep.
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IronHeartSA said:
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That’s the point but generic doesn’t mean bad

Yes but If a show is generic that means it's predictable thus not enjoyable. That's why I wanted to know does it get any better?


Tell us all what will happen in the next episode then?

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Jul 9, 2022 5:42 AM

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Yes but If a show is generic that means it's predictable thus not enjoyable. That's why I wanted to know does it get any better?


Tell us all what will happen in the next episode then?

If you can't understand the context, don't bother replying. Lmao...
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IronHeartSA said:
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Tell us all what will happen in the next episode then?

If you can't understand the context, don't bother replying. Lmao...


You're only kidding yourself.

The context being that your arguments are generic and predictable.

Come back when you've worked out an interesting and coherent argument.

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If you can't understand the context, don't bother replying. Lmao...


You're only kidding yourself.

The context being that your arguments are generic and predictable.

Come back when you've worked out an interesting and coherent argument.


Generic Means it uses most of the popular tropes, In 1st ep it doesn't have any originality story wise... Predicable means- you already know how the story will play out, 1st ep is basically "Zero no Tsukaima" with more ecchi elements. It also copies Kobayashi-san Chi no Maid Dragon". I have already mentioned those above, you should at least read full thread.
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Haven't watched the anime, nor read the manga.

Just wanted to point out, if somebody tells you the show in question is mid, you can safely ignore the their opinion, unless they say something else that actually makes sense, of course.

One anituber said it before (I think it was Gigguk, but you can correct me on that). All shows have been called "mid" at some point, so somebody telling you a show is mid has effectively told you nothing.
Now, I don't know, I may give this a chance for the non-loli ancient ancient sorceress or whatever alone. We'll see how it goes afterwards.
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Haven't watched the anime, nor read the manga.

Just wanted to point out, if somebody tells you the show in question is mid, you can safely ignore the their opinion, unless they say something else that actually makes sense, of course.

One anituber said it before (I think it was Gigguk, but you can correct me on that). All shows have been called "mid" at some point, so somebody telling you a show is mid has effectively told you nothing.
Now, I don't know, I may give this a chance for the non-loli ancient ancient sorceress or whatever alone. We'll see how it goes afterwards.

You should be on Gigguk comment section rather than wasting your time here, Nobody is calling it mid, at least read the thread before posting! Lmao
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^ Heh, it was just a generic comment that came to mind.
I did say I'm going to give this a try. Not now though.
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kriissyy12 said:
Huh? Please list me all the shows featuring a mature hot chick as the main girl and actual kissing in the first episode? Please.
pretty much every other season has this sort of stuff. like a month or 2 ago there was world end harem (that wasn't even bad per se), before that megami ryou (just about the same sort of garbage but no magic), then was hidden dungeon (pretty much this garbage but less milf and more dilf). and there are probably about 3 times more that I forgot about or didnt even try to watch. this is ultra generic stuff
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Please don't feed the troll.
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The voice acting and/or writing seems a bit stilted, but the nice demon nee-chan keeps me around.
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kriissyy12 said:
Huh? Please list me all the shows featuring a mature hot chick as the main girl and actual kissing in the first episode? Please.


I'm going to one day put this exact quote in a movie
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kriissyy12 said:
Huh? Please list me all the shows featuring a mature hot chick as the main girl and actual kissing in the first episode? Please.


no way u think thats an actual good argument lmfao how low is the bar here bro

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