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Jun 15, 2022 6:28 AM
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Sigh, Kyo just had to show his smug face again in this episode...

Happy to see Glass reunite with Kizuna. She really missed her friend. Yomogi is a bit naive imo, to trust someone like Kyo. However, the episode does show a bit of Kyo and Yomogi's past. Naofumi also got an upgrade and hey, maybe they can actually avert a war.

Next two episodes are going to be very important.

Jun 15, 2022 7:04 AM
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man idk about this anime anymore like its not good enough in the same time is not THAT bad in short its MID the build up for this episode is not good enough for me too feel hyped and makes me wanna tune out next week for whats going to happen next lol

imagine being a Top 3 Anticipated Anime in MAL for 3 years and this is what we got i really dk man
Jun 15, 2022 7:10 AM
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After the abomination last episode was, nothing seems impressive anymore. And moreover having some of these new clowns appearing just helping more towards the wrong cause. And please just please, kill this Kyo dude off real quick now.
Jun 15, 2022 7:22 AM
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I'm so happy that annoying guy cut himself in half I burst out laughing.

Anyway, top of the line animation, ufotable must be dying of envy (contains irony).
Jun 15, 2022 7:23 AM
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It's sad to see one of my fav isekai is getting butchered like this. I don't know what to feel or expect anymore for 3rd season
Jun 15, 2022 7:30 AM
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Dr Movie was the main studio in this weeks episode and you can tell as the quality dropped a lot.

They even made stupid blunder like romina holding the katana when they spend a whole ep last week saying that a vassal weapon can't leave its owner.

They skipped some stuff as expected but nothing important and if you are an anime only you would not notice.

I tell you tough 3 years to get this level of quality? they should of invested more in it. They better not fk up s3 as they did with s2.

Still at the very least we got some more lore reveal and some decent paced events even if they are changed. I will give it 7/10, would of been 8.5 if not for the poor animation quality in this one.
Jun 15, 2022 7:33 AM
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The way he got sliced up was so fucking dumb that it makes the three other heroes from our world look like Sherlock Holmes in comparison.

The waves can be artificially created, it seems. Maybe the last two episodes will tell us more about it.




Jun 15, 2022 7:34 AM
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Was it just me or did the animation quality drop for this episode?
Jun 15, 2022 7:38 AM
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Was it just me or did the animation quality drop for this episode?


It did very, cause the secondary studio was in charge of this one and they messed up a lot.
Jun 15, 2022 7:39 AM

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I guess they weren't kidding when they told him not to move. Just like that, he got sliced up.

Last episode Raphtalia said she could not rid of the Katana, just like Naofumi can't remove the shield, but yet the Smith was able to take the Katana
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Jun 15, 2022 7:55 AM

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Lmao Kazuki, enjoy being Frankensteined back together again sucker! Raphtalia told you not to move. Glad they did away with that idiot. Just got his two goons left I guess.

I feel like Yomogi was just too naive. Kyo was clearly troubled from the start. I get wanting to help your friend, but your friend literally tried to murder you. Clearly that says a lot about how he sees you. He was always a piece of shit, but she kept turning a blind eye and now here we are.

I’m glad Kizuna’s around. She’s the voice of reason in the group. It’s a good thing she gave a good lecturing to Glass and ‘em and sorted out all that foolishness. I guess everyone’s friends now so that’s good.

Now that everyone knows what Kyo is up to, I’m hoping they can stop him. It’s gonna be tough fighting this artificial wave and Kyo, but I know Naofumi’s gonna find a way to beat that fool’s ass like a drum.

Can’t wait for next week.
Jun 15, 2022 8:01 AM

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The wave is here, wonder what's gonna pop up.
Jun 15, 2022 8:08 AM
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End this thing already 😢, ohh 2 more eps , i see....,will endure this 40 mins more
Jun 15, 2022 8:20 AM
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Now that the gang is all back together the goal is simple, stop Kyo. Raphtalia returning last episode caps off searching for everyone so now Naofumi and company can search for Kyo and try to figure out what he's doing. It was pretty funny when Kyo was talking to that idiot Kazuki and even after Raphtalia told him not to move the dumb fuck moved and was sliced in half. Absolutely hilarious and deserving, Kyo didn't even flinch either just like yep knew that would happen. Yomogi is an interesting character in that she's one of the few actual good people on Kyo side. The anime kinda had to rush her development since there's such time constraints but they covered the basic parts. Yomogi was Kyo childhood friend, wanting to protect him since they were little. She's seen him do horrible things but just ignored it since stopping the waves will justify any suffering along the way in her mind. Yomogi now seeing how he even tried to kill her just to stop the heroes she is forced to recognize how bad he really is and join the other side. Just as she is Kyo initiates his master plan to create his own wave, activating the wave days early, separating Naofumi, Raphtalia and Filo from the other right as this surprise wave begins. Final battle of the season incoming.
Jun 15, 2022 8:24 AM
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Anime characters that suddenly split in half never fail to amuse me lol, same thing happened to the dumb Eugeo from SAO
Jun 15, 2022 8:37 AM

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can they just fight without shouting the skills's name pls? like when the lancer guy vs Naofumi in ss1, that fight was pretty good.

Jun 15, 2022 8:38 AM
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this ep was ok if it wasn't for the animation, it was really bad. Hoping next ep will be better as i am excited to see where the story goes
Jun 15, 2022 8:39 AM

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Shit so many things happened in this episode.
First of all, I totally didn't expect Kazuki to fall apart like a badly sliced apple in the very beginning itself. Neither did I want to see Kyou's face but that can't be helped. Filo singing also took me by surprise, in fact, the whole everyone going for Yomogi together felt so weird since they were all enemies just a few episodes ago. The cursed sword on Yomogi turned out to be a foreshadowing for the big truth reveal which I missed until I saw it happen, though, knowing the kind of person Kyou is, it should've been expected. There was a lot of group interaction in the episode and I loved that, one thing I'm confused about though is why Raphthalia wasn't transported with the others to the wave-point at the end of the episode. From my understanding, aren't all the vassal heroes of the world supposed to be teleported there automatically during the waves? Why was she not included just now? That was a bit weird. On the other hand, I can see why some people had commented in previous discussions that Kizuna was their favourite character from the LN, she's the epitome of conflict resolution.

Oh and I did notice in several parts, that the animation quality had dropped and picked up. Especially in the scene where Naofumi and L'Arc are bickering and where Kizuna was scolding the other three about the previous waves. Their facial expressions and face shape became very meh in some places. I hope they aren't rushing the animators too much leading to the poorer quality of work.
Jun 15, 2022 8:58 AM

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AAAAAAAA I need a Raph chan plushie so bad, it's just so cute.

Pretty eh episode until the final minute. We learn that Kyo was actually trying to create the waves and he was successful. IDK why Naofumi and party didn't teleport to waves location with others but anyway seems like the whole next epsiode would be just fighting the waves. And shit that dude really got sliced in half lmao.

4/5 just because of Raph chan.




Jun 15, 2022 9:03 AM
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It was clear that the quality of the animation is very bad, the two studios are working in a disorganized and hasty way, I'm sure they will invest in the last two eps as in the arc of the turtle. And the story itself, oddly enough, I was impressed .Because in addition to changing the order of events, they added scenes that don't have in the manga, for example, Kizuna's scenes with the blacksmith and Filo's new clothes, Naofumi's clothes gave me a taste of S3. And I was surprised , I thought kazuki would stay alive in ep 10, but no, the guy really died in the most rude way, and laughs ksksk. Another change is that Zikuna was summoned close to Kyo's lab, not the other way around as in the manga.I don't even know what I expect.
Jun 15, 2022 9:07 AM
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I'm so happy that annoying guy cut himself in half I burst out laughing.

Anyway, top of the line animation, ufotable must be dying of envy (contains irony).

its not top of the line animation. at times the animation and their faces and hands looked really goofy, one was larc's hands looked really big when he gave naofumi a pat on the shoulder and their faces sometimes just looked goofy, like when naofumi was angry he just straight up looked like had had wide pizard eyes
Jun 15, 2022 9:12 AM
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I liked it because the episode shows Kyo's real plan which is to create a dimensional wave that is to create one in his world and one in Naofumi's world and nobody expected
Jun 15, 2022 9:12 AM

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AAAAAAAA I need a Raph chan plushie so bad, it's just so cute.

Pretty eh episode until the final minute. We learn that Kyo was actually trying to create the waves and he was successful. IDK why Naofumi and party didn't teleport to waves location with others but anyway seems like the whole next epsiode would be just fighting the waves. And shit that dude really got sliced in half lmao.

4/5 just because of Raph chan.


When a wave starts heroes who are registered to the local Dragon Hourglass get teleported. Naofumi is registered to Melromarc's Dragon Hourglass.
Also this is the reason why on Naofumi's status screen there's no countdown timer, while Kizuna has one.
The anime is cutting way too much content this season.........
Jun 15, 2022 9:16 AM
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Was it just me or did the animation quality drop for this episode?

It felt like I was watching a PowerPoint for real the animation was really mediocre
Jun 15, 2022 9:18 AM

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The studio collab of Season 2 just hurts the series in a very bad light, with small Korean studio DR MOVIE being responsible for the recent low quality of episodes.

Once again, Kyo comes back from his harvest to restart reeking havoc from his spokesperson of Kazuki and violently slashing him in the process to shake his followers , while Naofumi, the gang and the other Cardinal and Vassal Heroes reach back to Sikul, and Glass's reason to fight Naofumi while the Waves happened in Season 1's ending moments was all a big misunderstanding that's cleared by Kizuna.

Until then, it's more prepping and more infighting, starting from assassin Yomogi Emarl whom starts a fight being the foolish idiot whom only knows how to follow orders, plus the ability of using the sword that Kyo manifested with the Spirit Tortoise's power (even though this wasn't mentioned, but you can first-guess it). But for Kizuna to still have some omniscience for Kyo to try talking than fighting against him, as one of the Four Heroes, time will only tell if her decision is right, and understanding the childhood friend relationship between him and Yomori is a decent start.

With the much-needed weapon upgrades, the Waves start where Kyo meddles with the timeline with Dimension Wave, and to say that Naofumi and the rest were underprepared is a gross understatement. The truth is out, and Kyo is the ultimate folly to defeat, the creator of the Waves, what a roundabout.
Jun 15, 2022 9:36 AM
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Lmao i laughed so hard when Kazuki split in half.

It's so inconsistent when the blacksmith girl suddenly can pick up Raphtalia Katana.

There is two other heroes that got blur in the picture in Kizuna house, wonder that gonna come back in the future.

The Animation is mid, the Facial expression looks weird.
They really not put a lot of effort into this.

Also the new girl, Kyo bodyguard aka childhood friend looks like an upgrade version of Rishia to me.
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The last 2 episodes better be good
Jun 15, 2022 10:08 AM

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man that was a bad episode lmfao. the last 5 minutes were ok but the rest was awful with the girl attacking and bullshit.
Jun 15, 2022 10:12 AM
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They should just say this Kyo run off to some other world and move on. It's the worst villain ever. I'd rather watch SAO at this point. Like, whta is the averall conflict this season? A guy with an annoying speech?
Jun 15, 2022 10:13 AM
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Though its nice to see Filo be able to fly again her new form sure lacks the punch that she had before. Trash 2 got what he deserved. It was amusing seeing Kizuna scold her friends though but she was right to be angry. The level of devotion that trash 2's attendants had for him though really bordered on the fanatical. L'arc's real identity though actually matched his personality though. Too bad they changed the location for Yomogi's assault though at least the battle was still the same. Still looks like things between Kizuna and Naofumi are difficult right now. For my part Kyo has no intention of saving the world all he cares about is his experiments. Still its nice that we get to see Kizuna's house. Breaking Yomogi's trust in Kyo sounds like it might be a difficult thing considering the two were childhood friends. Filo's PJ's look damm cute. So Kyo's endgame was an artificial wave huh. Overall a good ep that while admittedly skipping chapters did well to speed things along and get to the endgame. Looks like we might either see a combo of the castle defense and assault on Kyo's base next.

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Jun 15, 2022 10:24 AM
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This is so disappointing, I feel the show isn't even mediocre anymore. It's just...bad.
Animation, plot and story telling, everything is just a mess. It became the casual isekai seasonal show with no budget. I just didn't enjoy this episode. What happened...? First season was just amazing. This show had like 3-4 mediocre episodes at most. The rest are garbage. This show had potential..I'm just sad. I lost interest.
Jun 15, 2022 10:31 AM

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Filo wearing a Filolial-style onesie? One thing I'd never think of her wearing one, but I'm glad it exists at all! X3

While the animation is sadly still inconsistent, the episode was a little better than last week, which honestly doesn't really say much. Still, Yomogi now realises how much of an arsehole that Kyo has been, even more so since she's his childhood friend and now wants him to be stopped at all costs.

However, Kyo is already one step ahead, again, and made the wave start right now instead of its original time. I do look forward to seeing how our split-up group will do here and, hopefully, see the return of better animation as well.
Jun 15, 2022 10:53 AM

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Yaggamy said:
TsutanaiFuun said:
AAAAAAAA I need a Raph chan plushie so bad, it's just so cute.

Pretty eh episode until the final minute. We learn that Kyo was actually trying to create the waves and he was successful. IDK why Naofumi and party didn't teleport to waves location with others but anyway seems like the whole next epsiode would be just fighting the waves. And shit that dude really got sliced in half lmao.

4/5 just because of Raph chan.


When a wave starts heroes who are registered to the local Dragon Hourglass get teleported. Naofumi is registered to Melromarc's Dragon Hourglass.
Also this is the reason why on Naofumi's status screen there's no countdown timer, while Kizuna has one.
The anime is cutting way too much content this season.........
Ah this explains it. Thanks.




Jun 15, 2022 10:57 AM

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The Rising Rushing of the Shield Hero
They just adapted 60% of a volume in a single episode...
The Studio: I am speed!

Also the studio introduced plot holes by not following the LN:
- Kyo is experimenting and needs subjects. He even made a trap to capture Raphtalia and asks Kazuki to bring her to him.
But Kazuki instead of teleporting to Kyo with her, sends Raphtalia to prison for no logical reason, only for her to conveniently free Glass's group...
(In the LN Raphtalia starts at the prison with L'Arch's group)

- Rishia's costume got destroyed in the final fight in the Spirit Turtle, but now there isn't even a scratch on it at the blacksmith.

- Episode 10: L'Arch says "You can't take a vassal weapon from its wielder." Episode 11: Raphtalia gives her katana to the blacksmith......
Jun 15, 2022 10:59 AM
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is mediocre again lol
Jun 15, 2022 11:02 AM

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Animation really fell off this episode. It's likely that Kinema Citrus are completely focusing on MiA S2 at this point and DR MOVIE is going to do the rest of this. Simple things like character expressions and lip movements weren't even done well. The new character wasn't that good either, basically just yet another person that got deceived by Kyo.
Jun 15, 2022 11:18 AM

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law quality episode unfortunetly :/ the animation was not very good with bad image, sad after all this wait. It's not horrible but i was waiting more quality for this 2nd season. Hope a better 3rd season like SnK with good 2nd court of season 4 after a not very good court 1...
Jun 15, 2022 11:34 AM

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Lmao those fight scenes are just so pathetic, even season 1 had much better ones (at least some)

And that girl out of nowhere just appears and say she is gonna kill all of them....??? That's just so random, oh and of course the next scene they are drinking tea together......
Jun 15, 2022 11:44 AM

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I swear every time Naofumi mentions the name 'Ost' as if she mattered in the least is infuriating. She was a nothing character. If the only reason you jumped through that portal after the turtle died was to avenge Ost, the writers have heinously failed with establishing a reasonable character motivation.

I've said this on other posts, so I'll simplify it here:

• Ost was destined to die regardless since her death stopped the turtle, thus stopping it's rampage
• Kyo didn't even kill her, she killed herself. You can argue that him taking control of the turtle caused her death, but I'd be more angry at the many other lives the turtle took. Being angry at him for Ost's death is like being angry at Darth Vader for killing the random rebel soldier aboard Leia's ship in New Hope
• It is shown that post-turtle death, the Wave timers in Naofumi's world are paused. Naofumi's life as of that moment just became infinitely easier, the Waves are effectively neutralized. You have no reason to jump into the portal to fight Kyo if it has something to do with the Waves.
• If chasing Kyo has something to do with that vial of soul-fuelled power he took from Naofumi's world, who cares? The turtle expelled it's remaining soul power and it just turned into a bunch of plants. Why would you want to retrieve that, unless Naofumi is planning on taking up gardening?
• To build on the previous point, if Kyo is somehow keeping the Waves paused in Naofumi's world, why. would. you. try. to. stop. him? Any argument for "well, he's plotting to obliterate the multiverse or some shit", that's conjecture. Meta knowledge from the manga/light novel/who cares is irrelevant since Naofumi can't exactly predict the future.
• To build even further on the previous point, even if the Waves continued at some point while Kyo is on the run (like he turns it back on or something), L'Arc and his party are after him, and are therefore occupied. Those three contribute massively to the strength of the Waves that are trying to destroy. your world. Their distraction chasing Kyo actively helps Naofumi's world, so why, why, why would you help them?
• If it's implied (it isn't at any point) that some great multi-universal crisis is abound due to Kyo's meddling, and thus "he must be stopped or all life is doomed", let's presume that Naofumi knew that (he didn't, we didn't either). We've then established that Naofumi abandoned his world to be obliterated by said possible crisis with no idea how he'd stop Kyo. He essentially pulled a Holdo Maneuver and the writers tell us it was the right plan.

I'm this close to dropping this from the 4/10 it deserves to a 3/10 the writers clearly designed it to be.
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Good episode, I couln't feel any tension with what happened, but at least apart from the comedy, seeing the clumsy character design was funny and entertaining, but I don't think this arc will improve from now on, maybe the anime will get better in the next arc or something.

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I swear every time Naofumi mentions the name 'Ost' as if she mattered in the least is infuriating. She was a nothing character. If the only reason you jumped through that portal after the turtle died was to avenge Ost, the writers have heinously failed with establishing a reasonable character motivation.

I've said this on other posts, so I'll simplify it here:

• Ost was destined to die regardless since her death stopped the turtle, thus stopping it's rampage
• Kyo didn't even kill her, she killed herself. You can argue that him taking control of the turtle caused her death, but I'd be more angry at the many other lives the turtle took. Being angry at him for Ost's death is like being angry at Darth Vader for killing the random rebel soldier aboard Leia's ship in New Hope
• It is shown that post-turtle death, the Wave timers in Naofumi's world are paused. Naofumi's life as of that moment just became infinitely easier, the Waves are effectively neutralized. You have no reason to jump into the portal to fight Kyo if it has something to do with the Waves.
• If chasing Kyo has something to do with that vial of soul-fuelled power he took from Naofumi's world, who cares? The turtle expelled it's remaining soul power and it just turned into a bunch of plants. Why would you want to retrieve that, unless Naofumi is planning on taking up gardening?
• To build on the previous point, if Kyo is somehow keeping the Waves paused in Naofumi's world, why. would. you. try. to. stop. him? Any argument for "well, he's plotting to obliterate the multiverse or some shit", that's conjecture. Meta knowledge from the manga/light novel/who cares is irrelevant since Naofumi can't exactly predict the future.
• To build even further on the previous point, even if the Waves continued at some point while Kyo is on the run (like he turns it back on or something), L'Arc and his party are after him, and are therefore occupied. Those three contribute massively to the strength of the Waves that are trying to destroy. your world. Their distraction chasing Kyo actively helps Naofumi's world, so why, why, why would you help them?
• If it's implied (it isn't at any point) that some great multi-universal crisis is abound due to Kyo's meddling, and thus "he must be stopped or all life is doomed", let's presume that Naofumi knew that (he didn't, we didn't either). We've then we've established that Naofumi abandoned his world to be obliterated by said possible crisis with no idea how he'd stop Kyo. He essentially pulled a Holdo Maneuver and the writers tell us it was the right plan.

I'm this close to dropping this from the 4/10 it deserves to a 3/10 the writers clearly designed it to be.


You're right because the bad adaptation makes the story look like it was written by an idiot.

But some corrections:
- The waves are not paused after the turtle died.
- Kyo is extremely dangerous. He's going to use the souls he stole for something horrible if left alone and he'll come back and take revenge he said it himself. That's why they went after him to his world instead of waiting for his revenge.
- The Spirit Turtle was sending out familiars that were turning living things into parasites. It was killing people around itself in like a 200km radius. Also the 3 looser heroes went missing inside the turtle. Naofumi couldn't sit back and not investigate.

- Also the turtle was destroying cities. There was already a plan by the countries military to attack it. With, or without Naofumi. They had a higher change of survival if Naofumi joins them in the attack and he knew this.
Fitoria didn't want to help until she found out that someone was controlling the turtle. Fitoria knows more than anyone else on the world btw.
- The Spirits Turtle's purpose is to save the world by sacrificing the people in it. Not many people want to sit back and let it do that!
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Well things are certainly happening, that's for sure


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i really wish this season has the same animation quality and same amount of eps like season 1 cause it's pretty rough and with it only having 13 eps means its gonna end a a really bad spot..........

its pretty annoying how things was done this season compared to season 1
"one step at a time"
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Yaggamy said:
TigersAndDragons said:
I swear every time Naofumi mentions the name 'Ost' as if she mattered in the least is infuriating. She was a nothing character. If the only reason you jumped through that portal after the turtle died was to avenge Ost, the writers have heinously failed with establishing a reasonable character motivation.

I've said this on other posts, so I'll simplify it here:

• Ost was destined to die regardless since her death stopped the turtle, thus stopping it's rampage
• Kyo didn't even kill her, she killed herself. You can argue that him taking control of the turtle caused her death, but I'd be more angry at the many other lives the turtle took. Being angry at him for Ost's death is like being angry at Darth Vader for killing the random rebel soldier aboard Leia's ship in New Hope
• It is shown that post-turtle death, the Wave timers in Naofumi's world are paused. Naofumi's life as of that moment just became infinitely easier, the Waves are effectively neutralized. You have no reason to jump into the portal to fight Kyo if it has something to do with the Waves.
• If chasing Kyo has something to do with that vial of soul-fuelled power he took from Naofumi's world, who cares? The turtle expelled it's remaining soul power and it just turned into a bunch of plants. Why would you want to retrieve that, unless Naofumi is planning on taking up gardening?
• To build on the previous point, if Kyo is somehow keeping the Waves paused in Naofumi's world, why. would. you. try. to. stop. him? Any argument for "well, he's plotting to obliterate the multiverse or some shit", that's conjecture. Meta knowledge from the manga/light novel/who cares is irrelevant since Naofumi can't exactly predict the future.
• To build even further on the previous point, even if the Waves continued at some point while Kyo is on the run (like he turns it back on or something), L'Arc and his party are after him, and are therefore occupied. Those three contribute massively to the strength of the Waves that are trying to destroy. your world. Their distraction chasing Kyo actively helps Naofumi's world, so why, why, why would you help them?
• If it's implied (it isn't at any point) that some great multi-universal crisis is abound due to Kyo's meddling, and thus "he must be stopped or all life is doomed", let's presume that Naofumi knew that (he didn't, we didn't either). We've then we've established that Naofumi abandoned his world to be obliterated by said possible crisis with no idea how he'd stop Kyo. He essentially pulled a Holdo Maneuver and the writers tell us it was the right plan.

I'm this close to dropping this from the 4/10 it deserves to a 3/10 the writers clearly designed it to be.


You're right because the bad adaptation makes the story look like it was written by an idiot.

But some corrections:
- The waves are not paused after the turtle died.
- Kyo is extremely dangerous. He's going to use the souls he stole for something horrible if left alone and he'll come back and take revenge he said it himself. That's why they went after him to his world instead of waiting for his revenge.
- The Spirit Turtle was sending out familiars that were turning living things into parasites. It was killing people around itself in like a 200km radius. Also the 3 looser heroes went missing inside the turtle. Naofumi couldn't sit back and not investigate.

- Also the turtle was destroying cities. There was already a plan by the countries military to attack it. With, or without Naofumi. They had a higher change of survival if Naofumi joins them in the attack and he knew this.
Fitoria didn't want to help until she found out that someone was controlling the turtle. Fitoria knows more than anyone else on the world btw.
- The Spirits Turtle's purpose is to save the world by sacrificing the people in it. Not many people want to sit back and let it do that!

Thanks for confirming for me it's a bad adaptation, no way this'd get adapted as is. Just a couple of points I already made but I'd like to reinforce in response to things you've said.
Yaggamy said:
- The waves are not paused after the turtle died.
I'm not sure if this is true, I think it's implied, and if it isn't implied I believe this is appropriate=
TigersAndDragons said:
We've then established that Naofumi abandoned his world to be obliterated

Yaggamy said:
- Kyo is extremely dangerous. He's going to use the souls he stole for something horrible if left alone and he'll come back and take revenge he said it himself. That's why they went after him to his world instead of waiting for his revenge.
To be fair we don't know that for sure, it comes off as kind of forced. Kyo also mentioned that he 'has what he came for' which was the Turtle's power, implying his business in Naofumi's world is over. Plus what revenge could Kyo want, their world hasn't done anything to him. Surely Naofumi, if the Waves are now unpaused in his world as you said, would be better motivated to stay and protect his world while preparing himself to face Kyo again if he does indeed show up again, instead of gambling his, Raphtalia's, and Filo's lives on a crapshoot through a portal that leads to Kyo's home turf, giving Kyo the advantage?

As for the last 3 points, I feel like you're misunderstanding, I never said Naofumi shouldn't defeat the Turtle, I was specifically referring to going into the portal to 'stop' Kyo.
Jun 15, 2022 1:24 PM

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That's like the dumbest death I have ever seen in any anime. :D

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TigersAndDragons said:
Yaggamy said:


You're right because the bad adaptation makes the story look like it was written by an idiot.

But some corrections:
- The waves are not paused after the turtle died.
- Kyo is extremely dangerous. He's going to use the souls he stole for something horrible if left alone and he'll come back and take revenge he said it himself. That's why they went after him to his world instead of waiting for his revenge.
- The Spirit Turtle was sending out familiars that were turning living things into parasites. It was killing people around itself in like a 200km radius. Also the 3 looser heroes went missing inside the turtle. Naofumi couldn't sit back and not investigate.

- Also the turtle was destroying cities. There was already a plan by the countries military to attack it. With, or without Naofumi. They had a higher change of survival if Naofumi joins them in the attack and he knew this.
Fitoria didn't want to help until she found out that someone was controlling the turtle. Fitoria knows more than anyone else on the world btw.
- The Spirits Turtle's purpose is to save the world by sacrificing the people in it. Not many people want to sit back and let it do that!

Thanks for confirming for me it's a bad adaptation, no way this'd get adapted as is. Just a couple of points I already made but I'd like to reinforce in response to things you've said.
Yaggamy said:
- The waves are not paused after the turtle died.
I'm not sure if this is true, I think it's implied, and if it isn't implied I believe this is appropriate=
TigersAndDragons said:
We've then established that Naofumi abandoned his world to be obliterated

Yaggamy said:
- Kyo is extremely dangerous. He's going to use the souls he stole for something horrible if left alone and he'll come back and take revenge he said it himself. That's why they went after him to his world instead of waiting for his revenge.
To be fair we don't know that for sure, it comes off as kind of forced. Kyo also mentioned that he 'has what he came for' which was the Turtle's power, implying his business in Naofumi's world is over. Plus what revenge could Kyo want, their world hasn't done anything to him. Surely Naofumi, if the Waves are now unpaused in his world as you said, would be better motivated to stay and protect his world while preparing himself to face Kyo again if he does indeed show up again, instead of gambling his, Raphtalia's, and Filo's lives on a crapshoot through a portal that leads to Kyo's home turf, giving Kyo the advantage?

As for the last 3 points, I feel like you're misunderstanding, I never said Naofumi shouldn't defeat the Turtle, I was specifically referring to going into the portal to 'stop' Kyo.


The Spirit Tortoise "eats" souls and uses it as an energy source. Using those it builds a barrier to protect the world and the waves are paused while it's doing that. There was a Dragon Hourglass with blue sand in it that showed how many it collected so far. Once it is full, that barrier would permanently protect the world. But it wasn't full when Naofumi's group saw it.

Also Kyo wasn't only after the energy, he wanted to analyze the weapons of the three loser heroes. The weapon Yomogi used this episode was a copy of Rem's.

Naofumi had like a minute to decide to go after Kyo or not. His whole team wanted to. Ost's dying wish was to get the stolen souls back. Also Naofumi wanted to know more about the waves and about the otherwordly heroes.
The anime cuts out a lot of content but Rishia was actively researching things in both worlds about the waves. Something is causing them and Naofumi wants to get to the bottom of this.
Jun 15, 2022 2:05 PM
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Poor Yomogi girl being manipulated by Kyo like that :/ And now Kyo summoned the waves, it's gonna be tense for the main team
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TigersAndDragons said:
I swear every time Naofumi mentions the name 'Ost' as if she mattered in the least is infuriating. She was a nothing character. If the only reason you jumped through that portal after the turtle died was to avenge Ost, the writers have heinously failed with establishing a reasonable character motivation.

I've said this on other posts, so I'll simplify it here:

• Ost was destined to die regardless since her death stopped the turtle, thus stopping it's rampage
• Kyo didn't even kill her, she killed herself. You can argue that him taking control of the turtle caused her death, but I'd be more angry at the many other lives the turtle took. Being angry at him for Ost's death is like being angry at Darth Vader for killing the random rebel soldier aboard Leia's ship in New Hope
• It is shown that post-turtle death, the Wave timers in Naofumi's world are paused. Naofumi's life as of that moment just became infinitely easier, the Waves are effectively neutralized. You have no reason to jump into the portal to fight Kyo if it has something to do with the Waves.
• If chasing Kyo has something to do with that vial of soul-fuelled power he took from Naofumi's world, who cares? The turtle expelled it's remaining soul power and it just turned into a bunch of plants. Why would you want to retrieve that, unless Naofumi is planning on taking up gardening?
• To build on the previous point, if Kyo is somehow keeping the Waves paused in Naofumi's world, why. would. you. try. to. stop. him? Any argument for "well, he's plotting to obliterate the multiverse or some shit", that's conjecture. Meta knowledge from the manga/light novel/who cares is irrelevant since Naofumi can't exactly predict the future.
• To build even further on the previous point, even if the Waves continued at some point while Kyo is on the run (like he turns it back on or something), L'Arc and his party are after him, and are therefore occupied. Those three contribute massively to the strength of the Waves that are trying to destroy. your world. Their distraction chasing Kyo actively helps Naofumi's world, so why, why, why would you help them?
• If it's implied (it isn't at any point) that some great multi-universal crisis is abound due to Kyo's meddling, and thus "he must be stopped or all life is doomed", let's presume that Naofumi knew that (he didn't, we didn't either). We've then established that Naofumi abandoned his world to be obliterated by said possible crisis with no idea how he'd stop Kyo. He essentially pulled a Holdo Maneuver and the writers tell us it was the right plan.

I'm this close to dropping this from the 4/10 it deserves to a 3/10 the writers clearly designed it to be.



Sorry for intruding on the conversation, I just want to help with the discussion.
most of your points and questions are answered through the explanations of the mysteries of the waves and the spirit turtle that should have been in this episode, but it looks like it will be left to the next episodes or the writers cut it.
As far as I know: When the turtle is activated, the waves stop. When the turtle dies or is deactivated, the waves return.
And yes, the adaptation is bad,with few episodes. Ost should be remembered as "the enemy who became the heroine for her life" and the anime destroy it.
and it's also strange the idea of ​​the hero waiting for the enemy to come back one more time.
the one about kyo's revenge is basically in that bottle, and as you can see, that bottle managed to create a wave. yamaggy is wanting to tell you without giving spoilers.
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The episode was pretty okay besides some scenes where the animation was a bit funky, to say the least.

I'm actually hyped to see Naofumi finally fight !
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dam I want Kizuna to scold me as well UwU
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