The Executioner and Her Way of Life
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Apr 30, 2022 10:43 AM
#1
Here watch this video and see what you could not understand. https://youtu.be/SuJIjYFzZH4?t=812 |
Ace_EntertainersApr 30, 2022 12:32 PM
Apr 30, 2022 10:52 AM
#2
Right, because a anituber agreed what I said therefore it must be true /s |
Apr 30, 2022 11:38 AM
#3
People on this thread must really work on their grammar. |
Apr 30, 2022 12:20 PM
#5
Potatoboy11 said: People on this thread must really work on their grammar. Lmaooooo🤣🤣🤣 |
Apr 30, 2022 12:20 PM
#6
Valachiman said: i hate too this anime does not make any type of sense the the girl who love their all kind and hate boys she killed Enocent boy and then save that fucking girl thats why i hate girls they are selfish save who? lol did you even make an attempt to watch episode 2 menou killed akari a lot Faster than when she killed the 'null' boy tho fyi even after the whole archbishop orwell mumbo jumbo is concluded, menou would still try her very best to kill akari once for all it blew my freaking mind lol menou is definitely such a heartless woman, she might feel something towards akari but its like a mere bubble in the ocean |
Lab_Rat_0978Apr 30, 2022 12:27 PM
Apr 30, 2022 12:34 PM
#7
GalacticMagna said: Right, because a anituber agreed what I said therefore it must be true /s Well not only anitubers but a lot of people who are same have said it is good and unique and has good writing. I just used this as an example even Gigguk and most people on twitter praised it as a great story |
Apr 30, 2022 1:09 PM
#8
Stop promoting youtubers. Fucking disgusting. Why do you care anyway? Let people watch and hate whatever they want. |
Apr 30, 2022 1:37 PM
#9
honestly it isn't surprising this show gets shitted on. is it a shame? yes cause this is jc staff at their best and the shows magic is interesting. but when you kill the bland nothing mc so the redditors can relate, you're bound to get the hate from that section. add in that it is a yuri and it just made a super toxic area even bigger. people just can't accept that the mc is a evil person who is an executioner as the title would suggest. this show is better than all the other fantasy shows going on rn yet since it rubbed people the wrong way it is on the lower side of it. then there are the people who genuinely have problems with the show, they aren't the problem |
Apr 30, 2022 2:31 PM
#10
Love this series , finally something else. Ordered manga in physical copy to support author |
Apr 30, 2022 2:40 PM
#11
People are allowed to dislike what they dislike, but there's a gradient scale between valid reasons to dislike something, and reasons that kind of suck and make the person giving them look awful. While I have seen a few legit criticisms of this show, most of the critique is coming from people who are treating it as a personal attack on the shows they like. Which is downright insane, and deserves mockery. It's just downright shameful, and people are doing themselves a huge disservice treating media this way. I absolutely hate how "I have a right to express my opinion" morphs into "I have a right not to be mocked for my poorly thought out, childish opinion". I'm not letting up on my assertion that the bulk of people calling this show garbage have terrible logic. This is independent of whether the show is good - the reasons for saying it's bad that are most commonly stated, and driving an MAL score incongruent with what the broader anime community thinks, are just plain stupid. It's possible to dislike something bad for the wrong reasons. can we say that? I would also say, and it frustrates me that this is even controversial, that most people poorly represent their reasons for disliking a piece of media, often being completely inaccurate. And this leads inevitably to nonsensical and weirdly irrational justifications for their opinions, because they won't or are unable to articulate their true feelings. Whether it's embarrassing or they lack the ability to self-reflect, I can't say. Sometimes one, sometimes the other, sometimes both, I'd guess. I want to say that it's exceptionally strange, on a broader level, for someone to be accused of not letting someone like or dislike something. WE DON'T HAVE THAT POWER UNLESS YOU'RE AN INSECURE BITCH. Okay? Criticism won't magically make you like what you dislike or vice versa. But if you have the social license to express your opinion, anyone else has the license to say that opinion sucks. You might consider it rude, but unless there's some actual power or force compelling you to silence, it's equally valid speech. I have not called for any action to 'fix' Executioner's score somehow, despite feeling like it's bullshit, because there's no moderation solution and ultimately it's not a huge deal, except inasmuch as it does slightly reduce the number of people likely to check it out and decide for themselves if it's good. But fortunately MAL scores aren't even taken as seriously as IMDB scores. It's still annoying, though; and it's of a piece with a major bugbear of mine that I've been thinking about over a decade, that being the whole issue of people giving really stupid reasons for their media opinions in a serious conversation about the relative quality of the work. To me it's like bringing a pool noodle to a swordfight and then getting irate when nobody takes you seriously. It's also reminiscent of the conversation over Star Wars: The Last Jedi, a messy-ass film with plenty to pick apart, which nevertheless got dragged most commonly for braindead reasons (often related to Culture War nonsense and led by former Gamergate participants). And that in turn sparked equally moronic defenses of it because it became a Culture War flashpoint. everyone collectively agreed to forget it was a goddamned Star Wars movie and code it with all sorts of significance. It was treated like a political manifesto, rather than a heavily commercial artwork. Kind of seems like, at least on the right-wing side that's what's happened in very micro with Executioner - though I don't think most of the haters consciously realize they've lumped this into the Culture War, that IS what they're doing. The MC and major characters all being female, the death of the bog standard isekai boy, the whole worldbuilding bit where isekai'd people fucking ruined the world and mass murderized much of the population. It becomes a political statement rather than what it actually is, just some writer trying to find a new spin on the genre to stand out. Certain boys/men are rejecting the entire premise as invalid because they've decided "I'm in this picture and I don't like it". I would argue that's a stupid opinion to have. Nobody should be rating this anime down because they don't like the basic concept! If you think it was executed poorly, that's fine, and I have no quarrel, but the most common, angry response was 'look how they massacred my boy'. There is an inescapable fact of the rating, though - many people rate things poorly that simply aren't for them, regardless of quality. Or, even, they cannot perceive what the quality of a work is if it isn't pitched at their level, and automatically categorize it as garbage. You see this with shonen fans who dismiss Slice of Life a lot (not so much on this website because there's enough slice of life fanatics for pushback, but on Twitter in particular). I can say that I think that's a stupid way to approach media and rating things, but I can't stop it. All I can do is say I wish people would put slightly more thought into their ratings, and also try not to rate shows where they watched one episode and dropped it. To which you might say 'you can't tell me what to do' and you'd be right, I can't. I can say how I wish the world was, and that's all. If I could change MAL's rules so series don't have public ratings until after three episodes, I would at least do that. It'd probably result in more honest initial ratings, too. I just feel like I needed to get that out, and maybe hold my peace about this afterwards because it's a really frustrating subject and I have this suspicion that the people I'm irritated at cannot be engaged with logically. |
Apr 30, 2022 2:43 PM
#12
I wonder would be upset if mitsuki was a girl |
Apr 30, 2022 3:02 PM
#13
Sekirodiealotoft said: I wonder would be upset if mitsuki was a girl Well, there was already a girl in the 1st episode, do people really forget about her? |
Apr 30, 2022 3:07 PM
#14
I love this series a lot |
Apr 30, 2022 3:07 PM
#15
EdgyLord666 said: yes. Yes they did.Sekirodiealotoft said: I wonder would be upset if mitsuki was a girl Well, there was already a girl in the 1st episode, do people really forget about her? |
Apr 30, 2022 4:32 PM
#16
EdgyLord666 said: Sekirodiealotoft said: I wonder would be upset if mitsuki was a girl Well, there was already a girl in the 1st episode, do people really forget about her? lol you're right the ivory girl myb cuz it was flare and orwell who killed her? and neither of em into yuri like menou does? wait, even menou is arguably not into yuri isnt she? at least not yet |
Apr 30, 2022 5:22 PM
#17
EdgyLord666 said: Sekirodiealotoft said: I wonder would be upset if mitsuki was a girl Well, there was already a girl in the 1st episode, do people really forget about her? Yes, she was forgotten because she isn't Mitsuki who looked like the generic MC that was supposed to have a harem and now "we" don't have someone to project themselves on, noo Menou why did you take him away from us?... Now, being serious, yes, people forgot about her because we barely see her I guess, while we "followed" Mitsuki for some time, but let's be honest, we were following Menou the whole time. |
Apr 30, 2022 8:44 PM
#18
Lab_Rat_0978 said: EdgyLord666 said: Sekirodiealotoft said: I wonder would be upset if mitsuki was a girl Well, there was already a girl in the 1st episode, do people really forget about her? lol you're right the ivory girl myb cuz it was flare and orwell who killed her? and neither of em into yuri like menou does? wait, even menou is arguably not into yuri isnt she? at least not yet Menou is more like not knowing what love is, while Akari, Momo, Ashuna are clearly fcking gay. |
Apr 30, 2022 10:53 PM
#19
EdgyLord666 said: Lab_Rat_0978 said: EdgyLord666 said: Sekirodiealotoft said: I wonder would be upset if mitsuki was a girl Well, there was already a girl in the 1st episode, do people really forget about her? lol you're right the ivory girl myb cuz it was flare and orwell who killed her? and neither of em into yuri like menou does? wait, even menou is arguably not into yuri isnt she? at least not yet Menou is more like not knowing what love is, while Akari, Momo, Ashuna are clearly fcking gay. welp, she gets physically and mentally bleached by the ivory girl after all its even mentioned in the opening song that the MC, menou is colorless. and she's gonna bury her new friend no matter what lol poor akari... she's getting death zoned, I mean friend zoned like that |
Apr 30, 2022 11:08 PM
#20
The mc is bad whatever way you look at it tho I don't see that people have problems with Eren despite the fact that he is a genocide |
Apr 30, 2022 11:41 PM
#21
KitsuYurikano said: The mc is bad whatever way you look at it tho I don't see that people have problems with Eren despite the fact that he is a genocide to be fair, eren got what he deserved tho he became a bird and also got NTR-ed by maiboi jean lol I heard it was him who smashed christa but I think people need to stop being so delusional, farmer-kun is undoubtedly the champion here |
May 1, 2022 3:14 AM
#23
Animeizreal said: Was there something wrong with the first episode? Not particularly anything wrong, just that it was a massive bait for people lookin to watch another generic isekai with a self insert protag. I Personally loved the twist and ep 1 got me pretty hooked on this |
May 1, 2022 3:26 AM
#24
KitsuYurikano said: The mc is bad whatever way you look at it tho I don't see that people have problems with Eren despite the fact that he is a genocide Yeah he murdered children, males and females who were mostly innocent people and people never got mad at him . |
May 1, 2022 3:29 AM
#25
princessoftrash said: Stop promoting youtubers. Fucking disgusting. Why do you care anyway? Let people watch and hate whatever they want. I am not promoting them but when you have a show hated for fucked up stupid reasons it is just too much and needs peoples attention. Even people on twitter are shocked with the amount of shit takes on this series in here |
May 1, 2022 3:30 AM
#26
UltrqInstinct said: Animeizreal said: Was there something wrong with the first episode? Not particularly anything wrong, just that it was a massive bait for people lookin to watch another generic isekai with a self insert protag. I Personally loved the twist and ep 1 got me pretty hooked on this Really? Didn't know people can hate the anime for just that. Bunch of normies. I only watched ep1. Had no problems with it and the world setting was interesting so far. |
May 1, 2022 3:35 AM
#27
Animeizreal said: UltrqInstinct said: Animeizreal said: Was there something wrong with the first episode? Not particularly anything wrong, just that it was a massive bait for people lookin to watch another generic isekai with a self insert protag. I Personally loved the twist and ep 1 got me pretty hooked on this Really? Didn't know people can hate the anime for just that. Bunch of normies. I only watched ep1. Had no problems with it and the world setting was interesting so far. They are not even worthy of being called normies at this point they just have no idea of good story and world building. |
May 1, 2022 9:46 AM
#28
Valachiman said: i hate too this anime does not make any type of sense the the girl who love their all kind and hate boys she killed Enocent boy and then save that fucking girl thats why i hate girls they are selfish I really don't agree with your opinion, because as long as I watch girls only anime, it doesn't mean they are selfish, it's just your unreasonable one eyed argument. |
May 1, 2022 11:24 AM
#29
I like the fact that this LN/manga/anime centers around girls, instead of a boy and his harem. Similarly with Kunoichi Tsubaki no Mune no Uchi, I also like it for that fact. Not every isekai needs to be about a guy who gets his harem of girls in another world. You need to be a bad person to hate an anime just because it's about girls. |
May 3, 2022 7:20 AM
#30
Ace_Entertainers said: princessoftrash said: Stop promoting youtubers. Fucking disgusting. Why do you care anyway? Let people watch and hate whatever they want. I am not promoting them but when you have a show hated for fucked up stupid reasons it is just too much and needs peoples attention. Even people on twitter are shocked with the amount of shit takes on this series in here If people on twitter are shocked, I reckon the "shit takes" are probably right and true lmao. |
May 3, 2022 5:05 PM
#31
@Ace_Entertainers “this needs attention” “people on twitter” Honestly cringe post. |
May 3, 2022 5:25 PM
#32
yorokobe9385 said: Ace_Entertainers said: princessoftrash said: Stop promoting youtubers. Fucking disgusting. Why do you care anyway? Let people watch and hate whatever they want. I am not promoting them but when you have a show hated for fucked up stupid reasons it is just too much and needs peoples attention. Even people on twitter are shocked with the amount of shit takes on this series in here If people on twitter are shocked, I reckon the "shit takes" are probably right and true lmao. The shit takes are definitely not true lol. You can pretty much see on this very fite in the threads that people hate on this show by some of the most dumb reasons "the MC is a girl so it is boring" and stuff, or you canwatch the most recent thread where someone said this series is "misandric". |
May 3, 2022 9:26 PM
#33
to the people who blatantly dislike this anime and need an excuse to hate this anime...please touch some grass and hit the gym cuz your life is miserable af |
May 3, 2022 10:52 PM
#34
yorokobe9385 said: Ace_Entertainers said: princessoftrash said: Stop promoting youtubers. Fucking disgusting. Why do you care anyway? Let people watch and hate whatever they want. I am not promoting them but when you have a show hated for fucked up stupid reasons it is just too much and needs peoples attention. Even people on twitter are shocked with the amount of shit takes on this series in here If people on twitter are shocked, I reckon the "shit takes" are probably right and true lmao. Well if the shit takes were true you would see most people on twitter trying to cancel it like other shows with similar controversy which don't make sense and most of the people talking about it on twitter and you tube are only praising it. Only the stupid insecure people on MAL are hating it. |
May 3, 2022 10:54 PM
#35
ultimateweeb173 said: @Ace_Entertainers “this needs attention” “people on twitter” Honestly cringe post. At least I am not stupid like the people hating on the series for having a female mc who is better than 95% of Isekai mc |
May 3, 2022 10:56 PM
#36
You seriously couldn't formulate or articulate your own thoughts so you just posted a link to a video made by some fucking anituber? You should do better than that. |
May 3, 2022 11:04 PM
#37
Rvein said: to the people who blatantly dislike this anime and need an excuse to hate this anime...please touch some grass and hit the gym cuz your life is miserable af This is the saddest thing I've ever read. Instead of trying to prove those who "blatantly dislike the show" (as if that's even a bad or unjustifiable thing to begin with) wrong, due to your lack of argumentative ability, you decided to type what is perhaps the most retarded and overused "insult" in the history of humanity. Are you incapable of arguing competently? Because from the looks of it, you couldn't say anything to defend the show itself and instead attack the people who have a different opinion. |
May 3, 2022 11:20 PM
#38
TheAngryNerd said: You seriously couldn't formulate or articulate your own thoughts so you just posted a link to a video made by some fucking anituber? You should do better than that. Like I and other people haven't tried that. This video was just to have an audio message. You can't convince stupid people who hate the show for having a female mc because they are not even giving a valid opinion or reason. |
May 3, 2022 11:55 PM
#39
Ace_Entertainers said: Like I and other people haven't tried that. This video was just to have an audio message. You can't convince stupid people who hate the show for having a female mc because they are not even giving a valid opinion or reason. I somehow highly doubt that the entire reason why people hate the show is due to the gender of the protagonist. I'm not really seeing that anywhere, and the only criticisms I've seen from users are about the personality of the main character being annoying and unlikable, not because she is female (according to them and at least from what I've seen). And if you're talking about this thread: https://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=2013708 It seems to me that the OP of that thread was more concerned about how the show portrays male characters, which according to him they're portrayed very negatively, often as a corrupt piece of shit or a complete wuss. Though I also get the feeling that the OP of that thread might be a troll or some complete retard, which by the way, both should be ignored and shouldn't account for all people who may dislike the show for different reasons, such as those who are more concerned with its writing and story. Then again, I haven't seen the show myself which is why I'm choosing to not be on either side of this argument. Though it appears to me that both are very biased and aren't open to the opinions of the other side since both think the other side is incompetent, thus leading to insults being hurled at each other and the discussion ultimately leading nowhere. Maybe I should check this one out for myself, though in about 5 years due to my personal rule on watching new shows. |
May 4, 2022 12:11 AM
#40
TheAngryNerd said: Ace_Entertainers said: Like I and other people haven't tried that. This video was just to have an audio message. You can't convince stupid people who hate the show for having a female mc because they are not even giving a valid opinion or reason. I somehow highly doubt that the entire reason why people hate the show is due to the gender of the protagonist. I'm not really seeing that anywhere, and the only criticisms I've seen from users are about the personality of the main character being annoying and unlikable, not because she is female (according to them and at least from what I've seen). And if you're talking about this thread: https://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=2013708 It seems to me that the OP of that thread was more concerned about how the show portrays male characters, which according to him they're portrayed very negatively, often as a corrupt piece of shit or a complete wuss. Though I also get the feeling that the OP of that thread might be a troll or some complete retard, which by the way, both should be ignored and shouldn't account for all people who may dislike the show for different reasons, such as those who are more concerned with its writing and story. Then again, I haven't seen the show myself which is why I'm choosing to not be on either side of this argument. Though it appears to me that both are very biased and aren't open to the opinions of the other side since both think the other side is incompetent, thus leading to insults being hurled at each other and the discussion ultimately leading nowhere. Maybe I should check this one out for myself, though in about 5 years due to my personal rule on watching new shows. Valachiman said: i hate too this anime does not make any type of sense the the girl who love their all kind and hate boys she killed Enocent boy and then save that fucking girl thats why i hate girls they are selfish Well you don't have to go very far to look for people like that and the people calling her annoying mostly say that "anime with female cast and mc are bad" And all their justification for saying all that is the first episode even tho she admits that she is like a villian but she has no other choice. |
May 4, 2022 7:12 AM
#41
@Ace_Entertainers You’re acting like if your mom is the one being dissed. And the series is more ignored than hated anyway, barely gets any discussion outside of posts like these. You make it sound like there’s a group of mustache-twirling haters going out of their way to shit up all your threads, when in reality it’s like 90% posts complaining about the mediocre score or something. |
ultimateweeb173May 4, 2022 7:16 AM
May 4, 2022 9:07 AM
#42
Honestly people can like/dislike whatever they want, they have their own opinions and whatever but if you gonna hate a show for a dumb reason like "female mc🤓" that's when your take is nvalid |
May 4, 2022 9:17 AM
#43
TheAngryNerd said: Ace_Entertainers said: Like I and other people haven't tried that. This video was just to have an audio message. You can't convince stupid people who hate the show for having a female mc because they are not even giving a valid opinion or reason. I somehow highly doubt that the entire reason why people hate the show is due to the gender of the protagonist. I'm not really seeing that anywhere, and the only criticisms I've seen from users are about the personality of the main character being annoying and unlikable, not because she is female (according to them and at least from what I've seen). And if you're talking about this thread: https://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=2013708 It seems to me that the OP of that thread was more concerned about how the show portrays male characters, which according to him they're portrayed very negatively, often as a corrupt piece of shit or a complete wuss. Though I also get the feeling that the OP of that thread might be a troll or some complete retard, which by the way, both should be ignored and shouldn't account for all people who may dislike the show for different reasons, such as those who are more concerned with its writing and story. Then again, I haven't seen the show myself which is why I'm choosing to not be on either side of this argument. Though it appears to me that both are very biased and aren't open to the opinions of the other side since both think the other side is incompetent, thus leading to insults being hurled at each other and the discussion ultimately leading nowhere. Maybe I should check this one out for myself, though in about 5 years due to my personal rule on watching new shows. Well, maybe not really relevant since you aren't watching the show, but still going to try to talk. I have gone to some different sites aside from here (facebook for example) and there are actualy people who say that the show is boring for having a female MC, while, I know that not everyone says this there are people who do say that is a problem. Others problems goes from "this is yuri and yuri is bad" which is pretty subjective, specially when this show doesn't even have kisses or stuff like that, so you won't even get to see "spicy" stuff. So some "critique" for the series is actually that is has a completely female cast, which is weird if you ask me. So, again, I'm not saying that all people "hate" it due to that but there are some people with problems with the show which the very same premise of the show tells you which I can't even begin to get aside from maybe that some of those people watched the show without even looking at the synopsis, which I didn't do either btw I almost randomly found the show. |
May 4, 2022 10:22 AM
#44
Ionliosite2 said: Well, maybe not really relevant since you aren't watching the show, but still going to try to talk. I have gone to some different sites aside from here (facebook for example) and there are actualy people who say that the show is boring for having a female MC, while, I know that not everyone says this there are people who do say that is a problem. Others problems goes from "this is yuri and yuri is bad" which is pretty subjective, specially when this show doesn't even have kisses or stuff like that, so you won't even get to see "spicy" stuff. So some "critique" for the series is actually that is has a completely female cast, which is weird if you ask me. So, again, I'm not saying that all people "hate" it due to that but there are some people with problems with the show which the very same premise of the show tells you which I can't even begin to get aside from maybe that some of those people watched the show without even looking at the synopsis, which I didn't do either btw I almost randomly found the show. Ah I see, this thread makes a lot more sense now. Thank you for clarifying that. I guess some people can't handle yuri lmao. Anyways I might check out the show in the following years, although I can understand why some people feel frustrated with its beginning, given that a likely innocent character was killed and it isn't the type of story they were hoping for, which I think would've been cool if they kept (reading off of the synopsis so I may end up liking the actual premise instead when I do watch it). |
May 4, 2022 11:33 AM
#45
to be honest, i went into this knowing that the dude was gonna die so that bit didn't bother me. what bothered me was the girl acting like she wasn't the one who killed him. sure she had the whole monologue about being the villain and him not being wrong. but when she said it, it sounded less like her feeling guilty and more like her feeling pity. it was like she found the boy dead in the church and started to blame the world for it. and then episode with the power taking away part came out and i was there like wtf. if you could take away powers to begin with, shouldn't they have gone with that in the first place? sure it was still inhumane, since the affected person turns braindead. but so far, the summoned people die just because they are summoned without even providing utility. they get summoned for their powers but no one utilises them, so they are just summoned to die. which is pointless. if someone is wrecking their economy, its them. summoning people for no reason whatsoever knowing they're a threat and still not using them. i get that its the noblesse doing the summoning, but this could have been treated way before the world got to this state. and yet they still strived for mindless massacre. |
May 4, 2022 5:15 PM
#46
ah_rin said: to be honest, i went into this knowing that the dude was gonna die so that bit didn't bother me. what bothered me was the girl acting like she wasn't the one who killed him. sure she had the whole monologue about being the villain and him not being wrong. but when she said it, it sounded less like her feeling guilty and more like her feeling pity. it was like she found the boy dead in the church and started to blame the world for it. Not really sure how to reply to this. What other reaction did you expect especially since it's apparent that she was doing this for quite some time already. But even without that, it was still clearly stated that she feels bad about it, but it's necessary evil that unfortunatelly has to be commited. ah_rin said: and then episode with the power taking away part came out and i was there like wtf. if you could take away powers to begin with, shouldn't they have gone with that in the first place? sure it was still inhumane, since the affected person turns braindead. but so far, the summoned people die just because they are summoned without even providing utility. Wasn't it because the ''bleaching'' ritual was hidden from noblesse and banned by Faust? Also from what i understand it's Archbishop that consipires not the entire Faust which are the ones that banned summoning in the 1st place. Still doesn't change the fact that the pure concepts grow more powerful and uncontrolable by each use. You will still have to get rid of them eventually. ah_rin said: they get summoned for their powers but no one utilises them, so they are just summoned to die. which is pointless. if someone is wrecking their economy, its them. summoning people for no reason whatsoever knowing they're a threat and still not using them. But they are summoned with intention to utilize their powers. Noblesse wants to utilize them in order to overthrow the Faust. Archbishop showed them how, because she needed a distraction for her experiments on kidnapped girls. But after she found out about Akari, her power was super convenient for her goal so at the end of the day even she wanted to utilize her power. ah_rin said: i get that its the noblesse doing the summoning, but this could have been treated way before the world got to this state. and yet they still strived for mindless massacre. I think it's too early for this claim. We still don't know if there are any other ways or groups getting Lost ones in their world for some reason. Still at least this seems like an actual take worth discussing unlike many others which make these ridiculous threads. |
May 4, 2022 6:08 PM
#47
ah_rin said: to be honest, i went into this knowing that the dude was gonna die so that bit didn't bother me. what bothered me was the girl acting like she wasn't the one who killed him. sure she had the whole monologue about being the villain and him not being wrong. but when she said it, it sounded less like her feeling guilty and more like her feeling pity. it was like she found the boy dead in the church and started to blame the world for it. and then episode with the power taking away part came out and i was there like wtf. if you could take away powers to begin with, shouldn't they have gone with that in the first place? sure it was still inhumane, since the affected person turns braindead. but so far, the summoned people die just because they are summoned without even providing utility. they get summoned for their powers but no one utilises them, so they are just summoned to die. which is pointless. if someone is wrecking their economy, its them. summoning people for no reason whatsoever knowing they're a threat and still not using them. i get that its the noblesse doing the summoning, but this could have been treated way before the world got to this state. and yet they still strived for mindless massacre. First of all Menou is not supposed to have most of her emotions because of her soul getting bleached with her hometown. The anime tries to tell it but even with the perfect pacing with the LN it is really hard to show all the information in the LN. Next about the power taking away part. It kills most people it is used on anyway and only Orwell uses it on the Isekai people she is only the archbishop of Garm the city they are in not the head of the whole Church so only a few people know about her doing this bad things. The summoned people caused the 4 human errors in the past of this world which the anime will get to in the next couple of episodes and made most of the world not habitable for humans called the Wild Frontier so they had to kill the Isekai people and ban the summoning of them. At least your problem with this story was a genuine opinions unlike the others most of your problem is basically the lack of explanation which is done in the LNs the anime is still just adapting volume one and will most likely just adapt till volume 2 at this pace. |
May 4, 2022 6:16 PM
#48
ultimateweeb173 said: @Ace_Entertainers You’re acting like if your mom is the one being dissed. And the series is more ignored than hated anyway, barely gets any discussion outside of posts like these. You make it sound like there’s a group of mustache-twirling haters going out of their way to shit up all your threads, when in reality it’s like 90% posts complaining about the mediocre score or something. Just stop pretending like you have not seen the score distribution 3.0% are ones and a lot of people and in the review and the forums have been taking shit about things which don't make sense. And as for why I am getting pissed off at those idiots is because I am a LN reader for this and I really like it and to see the series you and a lot of people who I recommended it to who loved it too get this much hate for stupid reasons just makes me feel bad. It is like people downvoting your favourite series just because one did something which is done by so many other characters but they never got this much hate. |
May 4, 2022 9:52 PM
#49
@Ace_Entertainers Whoa, a whopping 3%. What a raid. |
May 4, 2022 10:02 PM
#50
Strykeryno said: ah_rin said: to be honest, i went into this knowing that the dude was gonna die so that bit didn't bother me. what bothered me was the girl acting like she wasn't the one who killed him. sure she had the whole monologue about being the villain and him not being wrong. but when she said it, it sounded less like her feeling guilty and more like her feeling pity. it was like she found the boy dead in the church and started to blame the world for it. Not really sure how to reply to this. What other reaction did you expect especially since it's apparent that she was doing this for quite some time already. But even without that, it was still clearly stated that she feels bad about it, but it's necessary evil that unfortunatelly has to be commited. ah_rin said: and then episode with the power taking away part came out and i was there like wtf. if you could take away powers to begin with, shouldn't they have gone with that in the first place? sure it was still inhumane, since the affected person turns braindead. but so far, the summoned people die just because they are summoned without even providing utility. Wasn't it because the ''bleaching'' ritual was hidden from noblesse and banned by Faust? Also from what i understand it's Archbishop that consipires not the entire Faust which are the ones that banned summoning in the 1st place. Still doesn't change the fact that the pure concepts grow more powerful and uncontrolable by each use. You will still have to get rid of them eventually. ah_rin said: they get summoned for their powers but no one utilises them, so they are just summoned to die. which is pointless. if someone is wrecking their economy, its them. summoning people for no reason whatsoever knowing they're a threat and still not using them. But they are summoned with intention to utilize their powers. Noblesse wants to utilize them in order to overthrow the Faust. Archbishop showed them how, because she needed a distraction for her experiments on kidnapped girls. But after she found out about Akari, her power was super convenient for her goal so at the end of the day even she wanted to utilize her power. ah_rin said: i get that its the noblesse doing the summoning, but this could have been treated way before the world got to this state. and yet they still strived for mindless massacre. I think it's too early for this claim. We still don't know if there are any other ways or groups getting Lost ones in their world for some reason. Still at least this seems like an actual take worth discussing unlike many others which make these ridiculous threads. Uhh idk how to reply to two messages at once so I'll just do this here. Personally it's not her character I find a flaw with, just the way the anime portrayed it. Maybe it's better in the novel because novels have the leeway to add descriptive monologue without snapping you out from the experience but in the anime it felt like she wanted to be the villain but the way they framed everything made it feel like she was the hero. It's weird. They were adamant about showing how she was the one who was wronged but at the same time they didn't use the tragic hero troupe. Sure she's supposed to be emotionless but showing her straight face as she goes on about how she's the villain just makes her feel offputting. Maybe if she felt something, if there was a twitch in her lips or even the slightest bit of remorse. Or if she was just straight up a yandere. As things stand she doesn't have a personality indicative of her acts. Aside from work hours, she isn't even dead eyed emotionless. She's like an office worker whose office just happens to be a corpse manufacturing firm. I mean it might make sense since she was a pro but it makes her a really unrelatable (not in the self insert but understanding a character kind) and irking character to follow. The other fat boobied japan girl is just a bundle of troupes so I can't see why they couldn't have added even a single troupe to the righteous priest woman. And to answer the other points I would need to know why the Faust are in power and why the ether magic thing hasn't been used by the Noblesse yet. When they sent people to kill mennou why did it have to be normal foot soldiers. Cuz if they made it so that even after years of doing this, they Noblesse couldn't harness the power of ether or whatever it was I call BS. And if they did have the power of ether then it wouldn't make sense how an entire country's worth of manpower couldn't handle a single organisation. And how'd they also somehow manage to get every single summoned warrior murdered since Faust took the reigns? |
ah_rinMay 4, 2022 10:07 PM
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