This getting low ratings in japan

Making the movie into ep was a good idea

Nov 23, 2021 6:35 AM

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Well that was expected but I didn't expected it from Japan.

So I hope that kny franchise will learn from this mistake and don't milk the show any further.

Nov 23, 2021 6:52 AM

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I mean... Its only natural. It was the most grossing movie, so majority of the people have already seen it.

Nov 23, 2021 6:58 AM

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Pretty expected though. Since many watched the movie at first it will be pretty boring to re-watch

Nov 23, 2021 7:02 AM

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The last time I heard, it was doing quite great in japan and its broadcast was already the most popular TV broadcast this year but I guess that was because people wanted to see the whole new first episode while the rest are almost same.
But right now quite a lot of hype is building up for the entertainment district arc in japan so maybe people there are waiting for december to come for the entertainment district arc to air.

If you enjoyed the time you wasted, then its not a waste of time.

Nov 23, 2021 7:05 AM

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1. The movie aired for the first time a few weeks before the series started, and unexpectedly dominated the ratings in Japan. So it was pretty obvious the ratings would go down after episode 1 aired.

2. I don't know where you got the idea it's ratings are low from. By all lists in Japan, it's still the most popular show this season even above Mushoku Tensei and Komi-san.

Nov 23, 2021 7:08 AM

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kriissyy12 said:

2. I don't know where you got the idea it's ratings are low from. By all lists in Japan, it's still the most popular show this season even above Mushoku Tensei and Komi-san.

Exactly, in terms of popularity, its the most popular in japan right now so I dont think the source is correct and right now the hype of entertainment district arc is going way too high in japan.

If you enjoyed the time you wasted, then its not a waste of time.

Nov 23, 2021 7:15 AM

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FZREMAKE said:

kriissyy12 said:

2. I don't know where you got the idea it's ratings are low from. By all lists in Japan, it's still the most popular show this season even above Mushoku Tensei and Komi-san.

Exactly, in terms of popularity, its the most popular in japan right now so I dont think the source is correct and right now the hype of entertainment district arc is going way too high in japan.

The ratings are indeed declining it seems but still more popular than most of the other tv anime

Nov 23, 2021 7:24 AM

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In my opinion, they should've just released episode 1 as an OVA.

Nov 23, 2021 7:24 AM

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The pacing just does not work in episode Form

Nov 23, 2021 7:35 AM

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Think about how polished and amazing the next arc will be considering how long they will have to work on it. I think we should wait till the next season before we determine whether making the movie into episodes was a good idea or not.

Nov 23, 2021 7:35 AM

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Apparently it did recover bit in episode 6 ( i kind of think its the cgi train doing...lol)
https://animesenpai.net/japan-demon-slayer-mugen-train-arc-ratings-are-declining/

There was that election break too. Overall it is retelling so that hardly matter. Ufotable already cashed it out what they needed whether u think its a good idea or bad

As for me, I dont care. As long as future episodes are not butchered I dont a fucking care even if they make 10 retelling of same episode

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Nov 23, 2021 7:58 AM

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If it was a mid movie i would still dislike the idea but i would understand. Problem is, basically every kny fan watched the movie so it's really unnecessary

Nov 23, 2021 8:05 AM

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I mean, it was huge in popularity when it came out. So most people have probably already seen it. Plus with the manga already being finished, there's really no excuse for them to milk it. For all the time that people waited for a new season, they might as well have scrapped the movie if they were going to give recap episodes.

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Nov 23, 2021 8:05 AM

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No. Aniplex should have seen this coming, but they didn't because they're fucking stupid.

Nov 23, 2021 8:14 AM

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There was no point in releasing the movie in ep form, I only watched it because I wanted to switch from dub to sub.

Nov 23, 2021 9:30 AM

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The rating is declining but it's not a low rating(you know the difference right?). By the time this first 6 episodes comes out, most people have already watched Mugen Train(on theater or TV) so it's normal for it to decline.

I don't really how they're milking this show as well.

Nov 23, 2021 10:50 AM

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It was just waste of time

Nov 23, 2021 12:22 PM

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It's not like they are re-animating the entire mugen train arc, they only broadcasting it in episodic format so that everyone is caught up and hyped before the actual season 2 starts...
It's not like we would have gotten season 2 any sooner than we are getting now...

Nov 23, 2021 2:32 PM

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No. Aniplex should have seen this coming, but they didn't because they're fucking stupid.

pretty sure they know its going to decline, they just want to make it on episode format so that future watchers wont have to shift from series to movie problem. From business standpoint, mugen train is still selling so they want to obtain that extra cash as long as its still relevant.

Nov 23, 2021 2:58 PM

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I mean it's pretty much the same movie split up in 7 episodes so I guess it's understandable

Nov 23, 2021 3:24 PM

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It was a good idea for casual viewers since netflix airs this season as a second season including the arc to come, so yeah. For everyone else? Not really.

Nov 23, 2021 5:33 PM

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SirHerbert124 said:
The pacing just does not work in episode Form

Couldn't disagree more, I liked the film but felt that the pacing would've fared better across a few episodes rather than a continuous movie. And this version has proven that for me, being more enjoyable overall.

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Nov 23, 2021 5:41 PM

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Can't speak for everyone else but I see no point in watching this season till they finish this ark, the same streaming services I use to watch this show also have the movie, so unless I'm a diehard fan there is little reason to watch it.

Nov 23, 2021 6:09 PM

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Honestly I thought the movie was extremely overrated and the episode version is even worse

Nov 23, 2021 6:39 PM

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TheFounder131 said:
https://www.instagram.com/p/CWniJ1QInsM/?utm_medium=copy_link

Well that was expected but I didn't expected it from Japan.

So I hope that kny franchise will learn from this mistake and don't milk the show any further.

come on this is not even a faithful source

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Nov 23, 2021 7:28 PM

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I think they were aware this would happen. But they might have had a reason for doing this.
Reserving a time slot on tv before the next arc gets properly animated, keeping the audience to the show for a little longer before the next season's production is complete, or simply making money out of the cash cow until the next season. Etc etc

Nov 23, 2021 11:17 PM

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“Declining” is not the same as “low.” It’s still the most popular show in Japan and the ratings are good despite the fact that it airs at 11:15pm. I really wish the general public wasn’t so dim.

Also, not every country has access or licensing rights to the movie. It’s a very privileged take to be saying that the franchise needs to “learn a lesson” for giving the rest of the world access to a very important and canon arc of the story.

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Nov 23, 2021 11:19 PM

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Turning the film into episodes was not a great idea but it is still enjoyable I still sit down every week to watch it but we will be in the next arc in like 2 weeks

Nov 24, 2021 6:45 AM

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The last episode got 6.7% in rating, that is equivalent to conan despite airing at 11:15pm Sunday, and the recording rating blow any other anime, why are you guys stupid ?

Nov 24, 2021 6:57 AM

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imagine milking a movie and expecting high ratings

Nov 24, 2021 7:01 AM

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It makes sense, I was bored watching the tv version, they should release the ep 1 only as an ova

Nov 24, 2021 7:02 AM

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indrawn said:
imagine milking a movie and expecting high ratings

And expectedly they did get high ratings. High enough to be the most popular anime broadcast in japan this year.

If you enjoyed the time you wasted, then its not a waste of time.

Nov 24, 2021 9:51 AM

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I think there doing it because some people can’t see the movies or can’t access the movies maybe

Nov 24, 2021 3:29 PM

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I don't think them making the movies into eps was good for the fans but maybe good for cash flow and supposedly good for those who "can't access the movies". They COULD have warned us before the movie aired that they would make it into ep's. If they did warn us, I didn't see it. Only thing you could do was assume it would happen since it is canon and DB Super did similar.

You can see the decline in Demon slayer here though:

The arc debuted with a 10% average household rating but it was almost halved (5.7%) for the Nov 14th episode. I'd guess these percents are the percent that watch at that particular time slot (which could include non-anime shows).

Whatever the case, the drop is significant. Though, it still does better than One Piece (different time slot though). One Piece, however, is consistent: staying in the 3.9%-4.2% range for all those weeks (it didn't air Oct 17th btw).

(ANN's source is https://www.videor.co.jp/tvrating/ btw, which you can use Google Translate to view for yourself to see the numbers.)

I'm really happy the numbers are dropping off. I want those in charge to receive the message being sent with how they decided to go about this (though, they maybe knew this would happen anyways and are still happily going to the bank).

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Nov 24, 2021 11:46 PM

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Didn't expect anything different

Nov 25, 2021 6:19 PM

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uuuuno said:
I don't think them making the movies into eps was good for the fans but maybe good for cash flow and supposedly good for those who "can't access the movies". They COULD have warned us before the movie aired that they would make it into ep's. If they did warn us, I didn't see it. Only thing you could do was assume it would happen since it is canon and DB Super did similar.

You can see the decline in Demon slayer here though:

for One Piece, two things 1- it does have a better time slot
2- it is consistent now because it already dropped, it used to do 8-10% but when you watch 1000 episodes you are usually going to watch it every week

now for Kimetsu, it is following the normal pattern for a TV show, decrease from the premire and then increase again(last episode which was just updated on https://www.videor.co.jp/tvrating/ got 6.7%)
and another thing Kimetsu in late time slot so most a lot of people just record it instead of watching it live so the recording rating for kny is usually a bit higher than its live rating, here for example (https://www.videor.co.jp/tvrating/2021/11/46112.html) live rating is 6.4 and recorded is 8.1.

Nov 25, 2021 10:40 PM

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Yes, @Dab1za9, Demon Slayer blows everything else out of the water in terms of its ratings. Even it's worst day ratings are great.

However, you can't deny that there's a decrease in ratings unlike others. Look at My Hero Academia's ratings for season 3: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_My_Hero_Academia_episodes.

Big season premier ratings like you mentioned (and what one would expect), and then it drops off on the second ep. Yet it grows with the third episode and then stays pretty steady.

And even with those "recorded" ratings, you still see the drastic, continuous rating drops for Demon Slayer:

Also, look at the poll just on this thread. Two thirds (2/3) don't like this and didn't want this stupid rehashing of the movie into episodes. Well, don't worry, you won't hear me complaining two weeks from now (probably). But don't think the majority are like you and like that they're redoing the movie as eps and airing it weekly like it's something new.

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Nov 26, 2021 6:50 AM

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If this is true, then I hope the producers learn from their mistake and stop making useless remakes that doesn't add anything to the story. Honestly, I agree with @Shengud. They should've made Rengoku's episode as an Ova and start the second season right after Rengoku's death.

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Nov 26, 2021 11:18 AM

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uuuuno said:
Yes, @Dab1za9, Demon Slayer blows everything else out of the water in terms of its ratings. Even it's worst day ratings are great.

However, you can't deny that there's a decrease in ratings unlike others. Look at My Hero Academia's ratings for season 3: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_My_Hero_Academia_episodes.

Big season premier ratings like you mentioned (and what one would expect), and then it drops off on the second ep. Yet it grows with the third episode and then stays pretty steady.

And even with those "recorded" ratings, you still see the drastic, continuous rating drops for Demon Slayer:

Again, you are comparing different slots, MHA slot get this rating whatever you put on it, every show in the same slot gets the same rating since it is 5 pm which most people watch, Kimetsu slot is at night at Sunday which doesn't even chart before Kimetsu, Kny is still overperforming, it is still getting +10% every week with the combined rating(live+recorded) and it does get added to like 20+ streaming service just an hour after it broadcast end.
It is not just about not having new content but people will find it hard to stay awake 11:15pm sunday when they have school/work the day after.

Nov 26, 2021 1:23 PM

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I'm not arguing about how high the numbers are. I'm pointing out the drop in numbers and drop in enthusiasm.

In other words, them hypothetically getting 50% viewership then going down to 25%, or hypothetically getting 2% down to 1% doesn't matter. What matters is the rate of increase. That halving of numbers no matter if it started at 50% or started at 2%.

It's a sign that people are saying: "I've seen this already because I've seen the movie" and are choosing to not watch anymore.

Watch the rates go back up for episode 8 or 9. To around 11% I bet (just like it was for the 10/17 episode) or at least 10%.

Nov 26, 2021 8:36 PM

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Good. Companies will learn that not everyone is willing to be sheep.

Nov 27, 2021 1:36 PM

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I voted "yes" not because I like it, but because it was a great idea from a business perspective. In fact, I don't care for this story in general.

Nov 27, 2021 2:14 PM

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I mean making a mid arc into a movie was a great idea but then turning around and stretching it out again for 7 episodes was a horrible idea

Nov 28, 2021 8:13 AM

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Some of you are even listen to yourselves?

Nov 28, 2021 9:16 AM

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Yeah it's just a recap after all, the movie is out for a while and many people especially in Japan have already watched it

Nov 29, 2021 9:06 PM

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>Biggest box office movie in Japan history gets split into 7 episodes for TV, each episode gets a rating over 6.0 which means the top 4 of the biggest tv anime ratings of the week

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Sayali567 said:
Yeah it's just a recap after all, the movie is out for a while and many people especially in Japan have already watched it

IT'S NOT A RECAP
Recap is condensed summary. This was simply movie in parts.

Dec 6, 2021 4:00 AM

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as i said
its a good rewatch and with full adaption of manga
i really like the idea because i watched the movie few 5 month ago so yep
animation is awesome like always and i dont give a fuk about people who didnt watch movie until now and ask: we should watch tv or movie and give hate and bul.shi.ng like moneybag or Etc...

Dec 17, 2021 9:55 AM

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Just as expected, Demon Slayers' numbers rose back to what they were for the first episode of season 2.

live rating: 9.2%
"recording" rating: 13.2%

So it about doubled its ratings compared to episode 5 of this second season (when live rating was 5.7% and recording < 7.1%) . In other words, 100% of people returned to see actual, new content.

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Sayali567 said:
Yeah it's just a recap after all, the movie is out for a while and many people especially in Japan have already watched it

IT'S NOT A RECAP
Recap is condensed summary. This was simply movie in parts.

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Stop being so pedantic.

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