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| THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE. ---------------------------------------- i love matsukata's spirit in this - one of my all time favorite characters - she shows one doesn't need to follow traditional paths in life (i.e. marriage) - this show just grows in my estimation with each episode.........genius......... |
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| Agreed, she is one of the strong female character who knows what she wants. Her inner thoughts are what I liked about the series. She makes pretty funny observations about the various characters. |
| No way to recall What it was that you had said to me Like I care at all But it was so loud And you sure could yell You took a stand on every little thing And it was so loud |
| That last quote is so fucking true. She's not a lover, but more of a fighter :3 |
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| not a fan of this episode |
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| Good episode. I like how Matsukata acts here. |
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| Yumi is supposed to be prettier than Hiroko But face-wise, she looks so boring, guess that's side characters for you xD Yumi is pacifist, while Hiroko is more "activist" :P Working women are the best women! They're tough women, don't underestimate them xD |
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| Everyone probably knows someone like Yumi and I guess her character was supposed to portray the "typical" woman. I was still kinda perplexed when Mayu idolized her while amongst other things mentioning how she snatched away the man from another woman xD But I prefer Matsutaka. She's strong and confident. |
One Piece episode 914 & 915 & 1027 were a mistake and 957 brought the salvation - FMmatron |
| I love this episode as well! I thought at first that Yumi girl is a b*tch but I realized she has a different style to handle situations especially when it deals with guys. Good thing she still helped Hiro in the end or else- I love Hiro's personality and how she fight that cynical Megane geezer. |
  ★━━─ 𝘏𝘰𝘸 𝘤𝘢𝘯 𝘐 𝘣𝘳𝘪𝘯𝘨 𝘱𝘦𝘢𝘤𝘦 𝘵𝘰 𝘮𝘺 𝘩𝘦𝘢𝘳𝘵? 𝘞𝘩𝘦𝘯 𝘐 𝘵𝘩𝘪𝘯𝘬 𝘢𝘣𝘰𝘶𝘵 𝘪𝘵 𝘦𝘷𝘦𝘳𝘺 𝘥𝘢𝘺? |
| Oh yeah marriage, that's a difficult subject... at least it ended good between Yumi and Matsukata |
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Recynon said: While you can interpret this episode as simply saying that being direct isn't always the best way, I get the impression that the author is supporting the status quo in the workplace just as she is supporting the work first mentality. There's being indirect and diplomatic, and then there's accepting misogyny and deliberately acting girly so that men don't see you as a threat. Generally speaking I don't think the latter is acceptable. The misogynist at the workplace totally deserved being scolded and Mayu's diplomatic approach only perpetuates workplace sexism. Agreed with this. |
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While you can interpret this episode as simply saying that being direct isn't always the best way, I get the impression that the author is supporting the status quo in the workplace just as she is supporting the work first mentality. There's being indirect and diplomatic, and then there's accepting misogyny and deliberately acting girly so that men don't see you as a threat. Generally speaking I don't think the latter is acceptable. The misogynist at the workplace totally deserved being scolded and Mayu's diplomatic approach only perpetuates workplace sexism.
| @Recynon I somewhat had the same reaction to this episode, but at the same time you have to realize that workplace culture norms wise Japan is quite a bit behind where we are in the west and that was even more true when this anime/manga was made. I'm not sure about now, but I do know that when this anime was made the Japanese workplace was still quite similar to say the American workplace in the early 60s. |
KristiwazhereOct 18, 2023 4:10 PM
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Yes, good point, and I did hear about that work culture. Just pointing out that it is a problem.
Yes, good point, and I did hear about that work culture. Just pointing out that it is a problem.
| @Recynon I mean it's not right, but my point was more what good is getting angry over a depiction of the mindset in a nearly 20 year anime going to do? |
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