Does anyone else get the impression that whoever wrote this hates Americans?

Oct 1, 2021 5:48 AM

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I mean the same guy gave a huge amount of respect Ali himself. And then you got Oliva who is a top character in the series. Dorian, Spec, Gerry Strydum are also American and they are not portrayed to be terrible characters (apart from some being strong villains).

If you remember the death row inmates arc, Yanagi is portrayed as a terrible personality and guess what, he is Japanese.

Oct 1, 2021 5:50 AM

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The biggest mistake anyone who watches Baki could do is to take everything politically.

Oct 1, 2021 5:54 AM

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CruelDelta said:
I mean the same guy gave a huge amount of respect Ali himself. And then you got Oliva who is a top character in the series. Dorian, Spec, Gerry Strydum are also American and they are not portrayed to be terrible characters (apart from some being strong villains).

If you remember the death row inmates arc, Yanagi is portrayed as a terrible personality and guess what, he is Japanese.

true but a lot of people get shit on pretty hard in this show. Just doesn’t sit right messing with a president

Oct 1, 2021 6:06 AM

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nateleb said:

CruelDelta said:
I mean the same guy gave a huge amount of respect Ali himself. And then you got Oliva who is a top character in the series. Dorian, Spec, Gerry Strydum are also American and they are not portrayed to be terrible characters (apart from some being strong villains).

If you remember the death row inmates arc, Yanagi is portrayed as a terrible personality and guess what, he is Japanese.

true but a lot of people get shit on pretty hard in this show. Just doesn’t sit right messing with a president

im not trying to be the "i read the manga and im going to fuck with anyone who hasn't" kind of guy but trust me this is nothing.

it's going to get a LOT worse, better get used to it.

Oct 1, 2021 8:05 AM

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Yes they hate Americans, especially you.

Oct 1, 2021 10:04 AM

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So many American shows make fun/parody other countries as well. This is nothing in comparison.

Oct 1, 2021 10:11 AM

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During a flashback in the '01 anime he really voices how much he thinks the Americans were moronic assholes during their involvement in the Vietnam War

Oct 1, 2021 3:17 PM

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Ciphra-XIII said:
During a flashback in the '01 anime he really voices how much he thinks the Americans were moronic assholes during their involvement in the Vietnam War

who? I don’t remember that

Oct 1, 2021 3:22 PM

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nateleb said:
Other than Jack, who's half Japanese, every American character has been treated pretty poorly. Ali Jr. especially. In this newest season, they've even portrayed a president terribly. IDK it just doesn't sit right.

Well, nothing wrong with having an opinion about something. Americans also love to pick and choose which countries they portray badly in their media. Or what, is it like something that they can do, but others can't?

Oct 1, 2021 3:27 PM

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nateleb said:

Ciphra-XIII said:
During a flashback in the '01 anime he really voices how much he thinks the Americans were moronic assholes during their involvement in the Vietnam War

who? I don’t remember that

There's a flashback coming up to the end of the '01 anime/ the first manga about yujiro fighting in Vietnam where he meets and rapes Jack's mom during this flashback there's narration where the author shits on Americans for their role in Vietnam

Oct 1, 2021 4:40 PM

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did you watch any of the Hollywood movies that love Middle-East, North Korea, or Russia? Of course not! its Japanese anime, of course they will lenient more for the Japanese characters. they can do that, they get to decide that. even in Hajime no Ippo Japanese boxers beat American boxers all the time. this ain't Hollywood where the American always the winner.

Oct 1, 2021 7:09 PM

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legatoredwinters said:

nateleb said:
Other than Jack, who's half Japanese, every American character has been treated pretty poorly. Ali Jr. especially. In this newest season, they've even portrayed a president terribly. IDK it just doesn't sit right.

Well, nothing wrong with having an opinion about something. Americans also love to pick and choose which countries they portray badly in their media. Or what, is it like something that they can do, but others can't?

youre moving the goalpost. I never said that American directors haven’t portrayed others poorly, but that wasn’t mentioned here at all. I just think it’s disrespectful to make Muhammad Ali a drooling son beater and George bush a genocidal idiot.

Oct 1, 2021 7:13 PM

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Any president who lied to get into a war deserves to get portrayed like this it’s only appropriate.

PurpleRequiemOct 1, 2021 7:50 PM

"I only studied a little bit of history and I have learned there are two current thoughts in human history. The opinion that there are things worth more than human life and the opinion that there is nothing preferable to life. When the war begins, it is on the pretext of the former type of people and it justify the latter when the war ends"

Oct 1, 2021 7:26 PM

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PurpleRequiem said:
Any president who lied to get into a war was deserves to get portrayed like this it’s only appropriate.

source?

Abcdefghi

Oct 1, 2021 7:59 PM

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nateleb said:

PurpleRequiem said:
Any president who lied to get into a war was deserves to get portrayed like this it’s only appropriate.

source?

Abcdefghi

I’m not going to spoon feed you, go look and verify my claim yourself. All I’m saying is his portrayal was good for someone as reprehensible as him.

"I only studied a little bit of history and I have learned there are two current thoughts in human history. The opinion that there are things worth more than human life and the opinion that there is nothing preferable to life. When the war begins, it is on the pretext of the former type of people and it justify the latter when the war ends"

Oct 1, 2021 10:00 PM

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nateleb said:

legatoredwinters said:

Well, nothing wrong with having an opinion about something. Americans also love to pick and choose which countries they portray badly in their media. Or what, is it like something that they can do, but others can't?

youre moving the goalpost. I never said that American directors haven’t portrayed others poorly, but that wasn’t mentioned here at all. I just think it’s disrespectful to make Muhammad Ali a drooling son beater and George bush a genocidal idiot.

I ain't moving the goalposts. I'm just saying that ya'll shouldn't cry about it. Besides, ain't nothing wrong with portraying americans in a negative light. God knows you guys ain't exactly the best in the world. Why should you get the special treatment of never been shown in a negative light?

Oct 2, 2021 1:33 AM

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nateleb said:
Other than Jack, who's half Japanese, every American character has been treated pretty poorly. Ali Jr. especially. In this newest season, they've even portrayed a president terribly. IDK it just doesn't sit right.

Japan have a huge North Korea problem. And which is because of America. After WW2 America and USSR divided Korea and took half of it under control. That was to done by America to keep the evil Stalin happy, so he can sing along the tune they want. And to be a colonial power for a while to recover from their war losses.

So, the whole North Korea nuclear power and human right violation mess is America to blamed for. That is why I can feel the author's anger.

Oct 2, 2021 1:35 AM

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Because Americans are insufferable. This post proves it.

Oct 2, 2021 1:36 AM

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nateleb said:

CruelDelta said:
I mean the same guy gave a huge amount of respect Ali himself. And then you got Oliva who is a top character in the series. Dorian, Spec, Gerry Strydum are also American and they are not portrayed to be terrible characters (apart from some being strong villains).

If you remember the death row inmates arc, Yanagi is portrayed as a terrible personality and guess what, he is Japanese.

true but a lot of people get shit on pretty hard in this show. Just doesn’t sit right messing with a president

The President was literary a war criminal. But because he was an American no one punished him. Also, his handling of the character is bad and he also sometime bias toward some character.

Oct 2, 2021 1:37 AM

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Ciphra-XIII said:
During a flashback in the '01 anime he really voices how much he thinks the Americans were moronic assholes during their involvement in the Vietnam War

Which they are. There wasn't any reason for their involvement.

Oct 2, 2021 1:40 AM

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nateleb said:
I just think it’s disrespectful to make (...) George bush a genocidal idiot.

That's accurate, though.

Oct 2, 2021 10:48 PM

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He shits on every american president, From Bush to Obama, then Trump and even Hilary gets some. I want to see what hes gonna do with Biden. Is he gonna be a Pedophile or have Dementia?

Oct 3, 2021 8:27 AM

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They are not treated poorly, they are treated accurately.

You all need to watch Nami.

Oct 3, 2021 9:14 AM

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Lmao i thought of this too while reading baki mangas the dude has Japanese supremacy and the Japanese are better than everybody else... You better try getting used to it there's a lot more of this coming next

Oct 3, 2021 11:39 AM

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CruelDelta said:
I mean the same guy gave a huge amount of respect Ali himself. And then you got Oliva who is a top character in the series. Dorian, Spec, Gerry Strydum are also American and they are not portrayed to be terrible characters (apart from some being strong villains).

If you remember the death row inmates arc, Yanagi is portrayed as a terrible personality and guess what, he is Japanese.

I agree fully with this, especially Oliva. Oliva is one of the more respected characters in the series, I would say only behind Yujiro (if not counting the manga)

Oct 6, 2021 8:46 AM

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nateleb said:
Other than Jack, who's half Japanese, every American character has been treated pretty poorly. Ali Jr. especially. In this newest season, they've even portrayed a president terribly. IDK it just doesn't sit right.

your first mistake is taking offense from a show as dumb as baki. the guy fights giant insects in his mind but it actually happens. also every single none fighter in this show is basically a looser, the president is not special. it's not targeting america, i'm pretty surre it would be the same with any other president.

there are also some very strong and bad ass American characters in the show. oliver being the best example. so i say you're thinking too much, just turn off you're brain and watch the show. that's how you should watch baki.

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Oct 10, 2021 1:46 PM

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Whats not to hate?

Oct 17, 2021 2:08 PM

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Yeah no shit from what I've seen online he's seemingly a radical Japanese nationalist (possibly even communist sympathizer) who served in the JGDSF. Now to be fair the creator to a degree is just anti-government in general and he has dunked on the Japanese too to a degree (specifically their martial arts) / had a few non-Japanese characters cast in a positive light. But by in large yeah there is no question whatsoever that he despises America (among other countries) and is also fairly racist.

He's the kind of guy who can still be butthurt about the bombing of Nagasaki yet pretend like the rape of Nanking never happened. It's pretty clear anybody denying his nationalist tendencies is just a massive fanboy of the series willfully ignorant to reality (crying and screaming but what about him praising Ali as if that counters everything else lol). But I mean come on the creator isn't exactly known for his intelligence (I mean holy shit look at this show's writing) so who cares? The show is just a little bit of dumb fun nothing great but still enjoyable, try to separate the art from the artist (I was able to love the anime Recovery Of An MMO Junkie even though the director was unfortunately a literal Nazi). Also if it's any consolation he ended up getting cucked by his own son who ended up surpassing him with a far better manga lol Beastars.

Oct 17, 2021 3:12 PM

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Kyotosomo said:
own son.

Daughter*

Guys, it's baki. Turn your brain off and enjoy the dumb.

Oct 17, 2021 3:14 PM

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As an american I never minded Baki showing Americans poorly.

Oct 18, 2021 4:12 AM

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nateleb said:

PurpleRequiem said:
Any president who lied to get into a war was deserves to get portrayed like this it’s only appropriate.

source?

Abcdefghi

Bush said that their was nuclear warhead in Iraq and after war there was none to be found. And many journalist started to claim the America was using Iraqi's oil reserves. They were there to free the oppressed oil from the ground not for peace.

Oct 19, 2021 10:45 AM

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Lmaooo didnt they cut some of the American slander in the '01 series out of respect because 9/11 had just happened and they wanted to be sympathetic or something??💀

Oct 19, 2021 7:45 PM

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Kyotosomo said:
Yeah no shit from what I've seen online he's seemingly a radical Japanese nationalist (possibly even communist sympathizer) who served in the JGDSF. Now to be fair the creator to a degree is just anti-government in general and he has dunked on the Japanese too to a degree (specifically their martial arts) / had a few non-Japanese characters cast in a positive light. But by in large yeah there is no question whatsoever that he despises America (among other countries) and is also fairly racist.

He's the kind of guy who can still be butthurt about the bombing of Nagasaki yet pretend like the rape of Nanking never happened. It's pretty clear anybody denying his nationalist tendencies is just a massive fanboy of the series willfully ignorant to reality (crying and screaming but what about him praising Ali as if that counters everything else lol). But I mean come on the creator isn't exactly known for his intelligence (I mean holy shit look at this show's writing) so who cares? The show is just a little bit of dumb fun nothing great but still enjoyable, try to separate the art from the artist (I was able to love the anime Recovery Of An MMO Junkie even though the director was unfortunately a literal Nazi). Also if it's any consolation he ended up getting cucked by his own son who ended up surpassing him with a far better manga lol Beastars.

I appreciate the level headed response lol. Just checked in after a few weeks and this has really devolved from baki. I just wanted to make sure I wasn’t the only one who was feeling this way.

Oct 21, 2021 2:52 PM

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I too got the feeling from this season, but then again a lot of people irl dislike the 'we are the center of the universe and without us in the USA the whole world would stop functioning' that is constantly oozing out of the USA.
So yeah, i had that feeling OP described too, but wasn't bothered in the slightest :)

I'm not reading any replies or comments directed at me at all. I know my truth and if you disagree: that's fine but i couldn't give a damn about :)

Oct 21, 2021 10:52 PM

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Sajonji said:
I too got the feeling from this season, but then again a lot of people irl dislike the 'we are the center of the universe and without us in the USA the whole world would stop functioning' that is constantly oozing out of the USA.
So yeah, i had that feeling OP described too, but wasn't bothered in the slightest :)

I get that it's pretty frustrating that America's decisions can have such a massive impact on everybody else's lives (due to our large population and how ridiculously reliant the rest of the world is on our economy) when they have literally zero say in the matter, but let's be real America gets more hate than it deserves and in reality most of that hate stems from jealousy that (as flawed as we are) we kick the rest of the world's ass in so many categories. This is evident by the fact that other countries rarely complain about China despite China being in a similar position (because it's hard for people in first world countries to be jealous of people living under an authoritarian regime even if that country is totally kicking ass in a lot of categories). People like the Baki author are so childish and should learn to stop putting down others just to feel better about their own insecurities / flaws

Oct 22, 2021 2:43 AM

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haven't and probably will never see this show, but no amount of dunking on Americans is enough. I say this as an American. anyone butthurt about it is pathetic. America is currently (though not for long at this rate) the most powerful nation in the world by a wide margin. If anyone has no right at all to ever complain when mocked it's Americans. everyone from every other country should have the right to make all the rude American jokes they want to.

Oct 27, 2021 1:15 PM

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In the latter manga seasons there were Barack Obama and Donald Trump peeing themselves (literally) before Yuujiro and Donald Trump being beaten unconscious by Yuujiro.
Well, the author also made Miyamoto Musashi, who is the legendary person revered in Japan as national treasure, into an insufferable disgusting asshole. So I'd say he seems to hate on everyone, not just Americans.
Anyway, don't be so offended lol. It's all probably just some innocent gags made for fun. Take things easier.

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Oct 31, 2021 2:23 AM

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Should I remind you how terrrible Americans usually make Russians look in their films and games?
Seeing the speck in other's eye but not noticing the log in your own eye, huh?
Japanese grudge towards America is at least justified.

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Oct 31, 2021 9:02 PM

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idk but its rly make me made that the author put "j,Guevaru" (che guevara) like a good person....el che was an horrible individual,i can say this bcuz im from argentina rosario (their born city) and i study his story,he was a murderor of civilian who dont think like he,and was a homophobic
even if its a fictional character that make me mad.

Nov 2, 2022 5:37 PM

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Its going to be really funny when Itagaki realizes that a westerner is the strongest man in the world. And that Americans have defeated the Japanese in combat plenty of times. I think he is just trying to make Japan the strongest becuase currently their country has extremely weak males who cant even have kids. He needs to start looking into reality and respecting all countries or else people online are just gonna keep shitting on his goofy nationalist anime.

Aug 4, 2023 8:05 PM

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" it just doesn't sit right" LOL, spoken like a true American. Who the fuck cares if they mock a president? Maybe try sucking their balls less.

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