Shouldn't Rimuru be hated? ***AOT Manga Spoilers***

pxkimxne said:
justified bcuz he wanted to be friendly but couldn’t and a bunch of his friends died; only way to save was a large sacrifice

Dragevard said:


Isn't Eren trying to be friendly but after living in Eldia for a few years, he found that there's no alternative and the speech given by the Warhammer family only solidify it? Also the outside world is created so that mass genocide is the only way to protect his friends

Piromysl said:
Those are two different fanbases with completely different standards.
Rinmaru is a Mary Sue, so whatever he does is always correct and won't bite him in the ass later, so it's not really up to debate

Eren is not. He is just a kid, who makes mistakes. He is doing what he thinks is right and completely destroyed any chances of negotiations for peace, which set him apart from the people he cared about.

Dragevard said:
Eren commits mass genocide, divides the entire fanbase. Rimuru commit mass murder, fanbase cheers and celebrates. Both are at war, humans are their enemy, enemy murder their loved ones and attempt to wipe their country. Where's the logic? Or is slime's fanbase not mainstream enough to garner attention?

fnw__ said:
rimuru kills soldier in a war while eren kills billion people which is citizen and innocent

Mikell_Kenshin said:

But Marley did that by sending titans to them and breaking their walls. So compared to them, Eren really didn't kill that much innocent people.

dantheman007a said:
There is a massive difference between killing 20,000 soldiers sent to slaughter your civilians and killing 80% of the human population, civilians included, just because most of them are racist against your people.

Granted, both are war criminals since Rimuru could have easily forced the soldiers to surrender, but instead used Merciless to evolve into a Demon Lord, but it's still nowhere near the magnitude of severity of Eren's actions.

deg said:
i do not watch this show but did you weigh in the number of deaths? i mean world genocide is clearly the greater evil here with how many death count it has

dantheman007a said:
There is a massive difference between killing 20,000 soldiers sent to slaughter your civilians and killing 80% of the human population, civilians included, just because most of them are racist against your people.

Granted, both are war criminals since Rimuru could have easily forced the soldiers to surrender, but instead used Merciless to evolve into a Demon Lord, but it's still nowhere near the magnitude of severity of Eren's actions.

Dragevard said:
Eren commits mass genocide, divides the entire fanbase. Rimuru commit mass murder, fanbase cheers and celebrates. Both are at war, humans are their enemy, enemy murder their loved ones and attempt to wipe their country. Where's the logic? Or is slime's fanbase not mainstream enough to garner attention?

Dragevard said:


Notice that it's one country vs Rimuru; whereas it's the whole world vs Paradis in AOT

MightyRoos said:
It actually really simple. Like a quote I hear from somewhere "Kill a human during peace, you are persecuted as criminal. Commit a genocide during a war, you are hail as hero". In Rimuru case, he isn't the aggressor and what he done is justified because it is war. The one he kill are soldiers. In Eren case, not only that he is the aggressor, he also killed indiscriminately whether it is civilian or soldier.

Linux_2020 said:
Why?, Rimuru did those Actions for a reason, as a Redemption for all the Villagers that got killed during the Falmuth Army's attacks (thanks to Clayman). He did that to get even, and even became a Demon Lord for the sake of his subjects.

It's true that his actions resulted to a genocide of tens and thousands of Humans, But don't forget that it's the Humans that attacked first.
He wouldn't have done that, as long as he lives in peace with his subjects.

Dragevard said:


I'm just drawing a parallel b/w the actions of Eren and Rimuru, but Eren's actions invoke a greater divide b/w the community whereas Rimuru's didn't invoke much of any reaction

Dragevard said:


Keep in mind the aggressors is Marley and the world, Eren is opposing that aggression and that the growing technology in Marley is already able to penetrate titans and in another decade or so it will completely make Titans irrelevant as a weapon. With Paradis being a tiny island with limited resources and technology their fate is sealed with the next couple decades. 80% genocide is to delay that future by about a century, but if it was 99.99% (excluding Paradis ofc) genocide Paradis will finally be at peace.

MightyRoos said:
I see your point but even so there are no justification for killing innocents and civilians. Not only that, Eren is the one who spark a full scale war with Marley when he killed Taybar during Taybar speech in Marley and also directly involve civilian's life in that confrontation. Besides, Rimuru didn't continue to attack Farmus Kingdom in their country after the massacre of the soldiers while it is different for Eren. He killed Marley soldiers that being sent to Paradis Island which is fine. Then he initiate an attack on Marley but the problem is he involve civilian. Then again to make it worst, he indiscriminately killed all people outside Paradis Island.

Dragevard said:


I think you forgot that Taybar gathered ambassadors and the press to rage war against Paradis. It is then Eren lost it his shit and killed him. Either way; the invasion of Paradis is inevitable. Killing civilians or not; it all depends on whether you want Paradis to survive or not.

There's only 3 options from the start. 1. Play tower defense until technology improve to the point of nukes being a thing (extra pages) 2. Wipe every non-Paradis and live in peace 3. Eren's route to stall for about century and die a meaningless death while making his country implode

MightyRoos said:

Nah Eren could just ravage the military bases but no, instead he commit mass murder. No matter how good or pure his ideal is, massacred of innocents is never a solution.

kun_kirito said:
you said "Eren is the one who spark a full scale war with Marley" and its 100% worng after tayber declared war on him(paradise) he attacked and killed him he didnt plan to kill kids and women but
sometimes in order to take down the enemy higher ups innocent ppl will die

Especially since Marlai knew it was going to happen and so the blood of all the innocent abounds on their hands and not eren’s

while he killed some women and child he killed mostly army man + ppl who cheer for the war decleration so noone is innocent ther

armin killed even more innocent ppl and noone say anything about that
this is how i see it

and 1 more thing rimeru killed only knights that came to murder all the kingdom

MightyRoos said:

Are you for real?!! So it means you have no problem if people use suicide bombing like in our current world because like you say "in order to take down the enemy" smh Besides, did you forgot that Eren commit mass murder with rumbling??!

Dragevard said:


Kid, it's entertainment. We're here to get entertained; of course it's ok to have genocide in fiction, but not in the real world. People like you who can't differentiate and kept bridging the gap b/w fiction and nonfiction are why we can't have nice things

Dragevard said:
Eren commits mass genocide, divides the entire fanbase. Rimuru commit mass murder, fanbase cheers and celebrates. Both are at war, humans are their enemy, enemy murder their loved ones and attempt to wipe their country. Where's the logic? Or is slime's fanbase not mainstream enough to garner attention?

Zero_Kashi said:
Who does Eren kill?
Civilian and Soldiers
Who does Rimuru kill?
People who invaded Tempest

I think that sums it up.

-Flaky- said:


Stfu is this the same genre huh?! Look at what they did to his town and people should he want to avenge his own people when they didn’t do anything to the humans they attacked them so wtf are you saying? Is AOT isekai huh?? did Eren want to become a fucking demon lord ? Does Eren run a whole nation? Does Eren have great sage? Or does Rimuru have titan powers, or is tensura a dystopian anime? Why don’t you stfu and stop comparing two COMPLETELY DIFFERENT anime’s

abystoma2 said:


Lmao triggered. Hit too close to home?

Razi_N said:
This season left a bad taste in my mouth for that exact reason.

Sure, you may argue that these were soldiers being sent to his nation to commit genocide, but past the first few thousand, that army had lost the will to fight and was already willing to surrender.

Correct me if I am mistaken, but even in real life, killing surrendering forces is a war crime and morally reprehensible.

The only reason Rimuru isn't more widely disliked among viewers, is that the whole show is an adolescent power fantasy, and people can't be bothered to sympathize with the faceless, nameless, backstory-less, religious extremist Nazi hyper-bigots the Falmuth were portrayed as being.