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| and the plot thickens. This was a good episode but the wait for the next one will be tough haha That footage of Emma at a bridge alone was pretty odd. Was that footage from after the time that she was supposed to be dead? In that case, maybe Cheng Xiaoshi's interruption gave her a chance to regain consciousness and escape? Although that wouldn't explain why she's still missing once he returned to the present. I'm also really curious what's up with this serial killer. Why is he pretending to be Liu Min (I think that's his name idk)? Maybe he's doing it as a way to get revenge? |
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| What an episode, now I don't know what is changed and what is not. I just hope to know what really happened Is there going to be an episode where they don't leave us with a cliffhanger? π |
| my heart was literally on a rollercoaster the entire episode !! love the ost; not sure how to describe it, but it's very modern-time and fits the setting of the show perfectly. the comparison of cheng xiaoshi following his heart and being conflicted with all his emotions in the moment VS lu guang's calm collectiveness analyzing a situation and preparing beforehand is so drastically different. they work so well together because they compliment eachothers weaknesses, but if they work alone then its not going to go well (SPECIFICALLY CHENG XIAOSHI FOLLOWING HIS GUT AND BEING CAUGHT UP IN THE MOMENT THIS MAN DOES NOT THINK AHEAD AT ALL! ITS DRIVING ME INSANE) i for real got shivers at the end of the episode.. did cheng xiaoshi change events of time again !? or is blondie (liu meng? i think) not the actual murderer !? next week cant come any slower!! this would have been such a good show to binge consdering all the connections the new episodes make with the previous ones, wow... im so in love with this donghua! |
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| Cheng Xiaoshi, stop messing with the timeline (again)! At least Cheng is now more aware of the consequences of his actions... It is hard to confidently tell if Cheng's action's actually changed anything. So either the present changed again so that Liu Min was hospitalized at 1 AM of the night of Emma's murder, or perhaps that was always the case. I can't tell if the show is trying to tell us Liu Min is the murderer, or not... Like it seems that he definitely is, but now there's less evidence against him and we don't know who the phone caller is... I do like how Cheng took the initiative and found out and learned about the enitre situation. Wonder how Emma managed to leave that car. So Qiao Ling really didn't know how their powers worked either. "Cheng was the one who distracted Qiao Ling from seeing who kidnapped Dou Dou" FALSE.... or? This is weird. When Qiao Ling told Cheng that she was distracted, this was before Cheng went back to the past. So she should have been distracted without Cheng's interference. HOWEVER, the flashback when Qiao Ling mentioned of her distraction, it showed her friend waving to (probably) Cheng. BUT this was before Cheng went back in time. So perhaps originally Qiao's friend was waving to someone else. So I'm thinking, either way, Qiao Ling wouldn't have noticed Dou Dou's kidnapper with or without Cheng's interference, so it's not his fault. OR the show isn't following its own rules and it is definitely Cheng's fault. I personally thing Qiao Ling would have been distracted no matter what. |
| the fRICKK why does the ending always have to give me chills ?! i think emma was either forced or it was by choice to walk down the abandoned bridge (wait so does she jump off or whatnot?) bruh tbh is the guy a lookalike or he does some kinda trick idk which |
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| Forget the Uyghurs (that are not being "genocided" after all... seriously, it's the 21th century, there's no excuse anymore to fall for washington propaganda to justify imperial wars), this imbecile chinese boy let Emma (Whu Lihua) die! Now this is a reason for war! Is so good when a series makes you this much excited while watching it's episodes! Link Click is always finding new ways to surprise us, amazing. Now, I had commented this during episode 7: PaninaManina said: For example, Xiaoshi went into the photo, to the past, and was seen by Xiao. When they went back to the present was like this didn't had happened in their current present. Xiao mentions that he was outside the country making an explanation impossible, her friend even phoned him to make sure he didn't had got back to the country. Xiaoshi appearance should had left a big impression on that moments diminishing greatly the memory of Doudou getting kidnapped. The chances of Xiao forgetting the incident and feeling no regret are strong, and she could very well blame her failure to act on Xiaoshi. When she talked and asked forgiveness to the father was like this didn't had happened, nothing had changed, but then letter the story tells you that the past in fact changed, Xiaoshi was even catch by the cameras allowing the detective to discover their powers. This is a plot hole. Wasn't a plot hole after all! What was important for Qiao was only that she left the opportunity to act slip, the reason was irrelevant and she couldn't put the blame of others (on Xiaoshi). Now that it's relevant to remember that Xiaoshi was there it was done. The whole Emma situation. When Liu Min appeared on the wheelchair my mind was blown with the implications. Maybe Xiaoshi had succeed in saving Emma but at the cost of Liu's walking and there was a real possibility that he was innocent, having suffering the car accident while running in distress from Xiaoshi. But no, he was really there to kill Emma... but like I already said, Link Click is always finding now ways to surprise us, episode by episode, scene by scene. At every moment a new little surprise and conflicted feelings. Liu wasn't a serial killer, he probably never killed anyone but was going crazy with all the online harassment. When a company that relate to him was caught on that hit job he snap. I still need to think how he knew it was Emma who leaked the information, or was it only by inferring that she could be the only one to leak the fraudulent information? Anyway, he went after her because of the job Lu and Xiaoshi did, but... was Emma destined to die anyone? Even if randomly by overwork? Lu seems to believe that there are limitations to how much they can change the past, was Emma's death one of those limitations? Was she destined to die around those days? Because first Emma only died by Liu's hands because of the message Xiaoshi sent on her phone, and now she died because he interrupted Liu from killing her. And there's still this mysterious person who send that messaged in the beginning... Oh, yes, the execution is as good as the plot. That scene with Xiaoshi agonizing inside the trunk and editing with his memories and what was happening inside the car... just look at this, it's "pottery". |
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boredombutterfly said: That footage of Emma at a bridge alone was pretty odd. Was that footage from after the time that she was supposed to be dead? In that case, maybe Cheng Xiaoshi's interruption gave her a chance to regain consciousness and escape? Although that wouldn't explain why she's still missing once he returned to the present. I'm also really curious what's up with this serial killer. Why is he pretending to be Liu Min (I think that's his name idk)? Maybe he's doing it as a way to get revenge? If you rewatch the first episode you'll hear the news saying she was found by the river. The photo of her body shows her on the ground that fits a river side. First we could assume that she was killed somewhere else and latter her body dumped there to pretend it was as suicide, but with what we watched in this episode looks like Xiaoshi unintentional interruption only saved her temporarily. She wanted around alone for a while until reaching the river where... was she killed? Or did she killed herself? Maybe the second option, she was already very mentally frail, maybe that murder attempt made her give up and she let herself fall in the river. pizzaphantom said: my guess is that Emma's death will turn out to be a suicide after all. firstly, i was supposed to be suicide, then Xiaoshi's actions changed it to a murder, then he changed it again to suicide. This is the probably answer, that's how she was destined to die. |
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HelerWz said: ChaosK9 said: Cheng Xiaoshi, stop messing with the timeline (again)! At least Cheng is now more aware of the consequences of his actions... It is hard to confidently tell if Cheng's action's actually changed anything. So either the present changed again so that Liu Min was hospitalized at 1 AM of the night of Emma's murder, or perhaps that was always the case. I can't tell if the show is trying to tell us Liu Min is the murderer, or not... Like it seems that he definitely is, but now there's less evidence against him and we don't know who the phone caller is... I do like how Cheng took the initiative and found out and learned about the enitre situation. Wonder how Emma managed to leave that car. So Qiao Ling really didn't know how their powers worked either. "Cheng was the one who distracted Qiao Ling from seeing who kidnapped Dou Dou" FALSE.... or? This is weird. When Qiao Ling told Cheng that she was distracted, this was before Cheng went back to the past. So she should have been distracted without Cheng's interference. HOWEVER, the flashback when Qiao Ling mentioned of her distraction, it showed her friend waving to (probably) Cheng. BUT this was before Cheng went back in time. So perhaps originally Qiao's friend was waving to someone else. So I'm thinking, either way, Qiao Ling wouldn't have noticed Dou Dou's kidnapper with or without Cheng's interference, so it's not his fault. OR the show isn't following its own rules and it is definitely Cheng's fault. I personally thing Qiao Ling would have been distracted no matter what. I was curious about the doudou thing as well, first of all the creepy hand vibes were definitely a sign of their "new friend" approaching. And yes! Even before Cheng Xiaoshi went back in time, she was still distracted. Even though her memory was altered and now she was distracted by Cheng Xiaoshi, back then someone else did the trick, or she simply just passed it. Either way, wd do have an antagonist somewhere out there and i believe that we haven't seen his real Face yet but we have seen people possesed by him. Thats just a theory but you know! I'm thinking this is probably a case of cheng xiaoshi being an unreliable narrator and blaming himself for everything that could've possibly gone wrong because of him. Him saying that does come right after he finds out how badly he really fucked up and how dire the consequences of his actions were, so it's no wonder he'd be racked with guilt and taking the blame for everything bad that has happened, whether it's actually his fault or not. |
| I was totally revolted, going absolutely mad while watching not believing that Xiaoshi would hid there and hear Emma being killed but I have to praise this in the end. That he was able to hold himself and not interfere was narratively good, it proves that what happened before have consequences and continuity. elany said: I'm thinking this is probably a case of cheng xiaoshi being an unreliable narrator and blaming himself for everything that could've possibly gone wrong because of him. Him saying that does come right after he finds out how badly he really fucked up and how dire the consequences of his actions were, so it's no wonder he'd be racked with guilt and taking the blame for everything bad that has happened, whether it's actually his fault or not. This is a nice angle to keep in mind. |
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| wait qiao li didnt know about their powers?? huh .? but what the fuckkk was that ending, im guessing criminal guy can also time travel but emma walking by herself on the bridge..? can he brainwash too wtf |
qwqpwp said: something like cheng xiaoshi's power ? ooo thats actually a rly good theory :OOI'm guessing the antagonist possessed the victims themselves but not until death or even any feeling of suffering comes. Like for the case of Emma he might have jumped off the bridge and then exited before she hit water. That's why all his victims look like suicide. |
| Hmm i slept on it and i have a feeling that liu min is a red herring or at the very least that Emma's murder was an outlier. His motivations for killing her don't seem to match what we know about the killer. He had a personal stake in this, a misplaced grudge almost, the murder didn't seem to be planned either since she was never meant to be there and also the person cheng xiaoshi fought off as shenshen was using chloroform which is presumably part of this killer's MO, while liu min just sort of....went for it. On the other hand the police said the victims are random but the murders premediated, which is the exact opposite of what happened here. So either the police are wrong about the other cases, or there was something different about this one. |
| I'm impressed Cheng Xiaoshi held it in there this time and didn't do anything overly rash (other than entering the picture by himself) while being in the photo. I initially thought Cheng Xiaoshi altered something that causes the murderer to be a crippled, but I guess not. Looks like you guys' speculations might be right in the previous episode's discussion. It seems convincing that the murderer might be a time-traveler too. I didn't really like the idea before, since having two time-traveler seems awkward and messy. Now I wonder, does his legs actually heal when he travels back in time (given if this theory is correct). Oh man, the series is ending soon, I hope they'll be able to wrap it up properly. Loving this series so far. Edit: theGodde said: pizzaphantom said: I also have another theory. Since we know Liu Ming's motives for kidnapping Emma, it's possible that he either isn't the person they're looking for OR he really is te serial killer. Hear me out. Liu Ming somehow found out why the company data leaked and that is was because of the main characters. He killed all these people hoping they would find him and he would make them pay back for what they did. For this to happen he would have to have time travel abilities. I feel like this show has been really grounded so far. That level of coincidental storytelling doesn't really fit with the way the show has been telling its story, so I guess we'll have to wait and see what the truth really is I share the same consensus. Can't wait to see what's really going on! |
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| It's nice to read other's comments, because I just feel so lost when I watch some of these episodes. and the fact that there's only two episodes left. I'm hoping it can stick the landing. I guess the show is never gonna properly explain the "lore" of Cheng Xiaoshi and Lu Guang's powers huh. I mean I guess that's okay..but, it almost feels like this show could go on for much longer to properly explain the lore and everything, but I guess that's not what this how is about. I feel so conflicted over Cheng Xiaoshi as a character. Part of me sympathizes with him, part of me gets frustrated with how bad he can be at doing this job. Lu Guang' tells him the things he can't do, but it obviously doesn't get through CX's thick skull. In almost every episode of this season, CX has doe something really stupid or screwed up something during all these missions they've done. Meanwhile Lu Guang can't rein him in or anything. When I first started watching this show, I really wanted to ship Lu Guang and Cheng Xiaoshi, but their relationship is so ???? 9 episodes in and I don't know what to think of their relationship. The show still hasn't given a good idea of how long they've been friends. They went to college together. so at least a few years. They feel like they have a strong bond with each other, but at the same time they don't? the show hasn't really taken the time to develop their relationship. It's just been all about the missions. I'm still enjoying this show, but it makes my head hurt with how convoluted everything is. |
| WOOOOW! the future change because the past was changed as well! 5/5. edit: or maybe not...stupid brain of mine! lolz |
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HelerWz said: Kathrina_Shade said: Why does the crown appear and disappear constantly on the sweatshirts of "maniacs"? Liu Ming had it in Episode 1, but no longer in the car with Emma. She also appeared and disappered on the swwatshirt of that pervert in ep.8 Kathrina_Shade said: Why does the crown appear and disappear constantly on the sweatshirts of "maniacs"? Liu Ming had it in Episode 1, but no longer in the car with Emma. She also appeared and disappered on the swwatshirt of that pervert in ep.8 The what now?! You mean a t-shirt print? Thats kinda odd and i doubt its an animation error I also thought it was strange, but I can't find any other explanation for this, except for an error. This crown print appears and disappears in episode 8, and in the car in episode 9, it was completely forgotten, although it was in the first episode.     |
Kathrina_ShadeJun 27, 2021 1:35 PM
Kathrina_Shade said: I also thought it was strange, but I can't find any other explanation for this, except for an error. This crown print appears and disappears in episode 8, and in the car in episode 9, it was completely forgotten, although it was in the first episode. My mind is preemptively blown away if this isn't just an animation error. Anyway, the big question for the next episode is, will they choose to use that footage of the other security camera to find exactly how Emma died and maybe save her? If Emma died because Xiaoshi changed the past, isn't fair that they undo this change to save her? |
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PaninaManina said: Kathrina_Shade said: I also thought it was strange, but I can't find any other explanation for this, except for an error. This crown print appears and disappears in episode 8, and in the car in episode 9, it was completely forgotten, although it was in the first episode. My mind is preemptively blown away if this isn't just an animation error. Anyway, the big question for the next episode is, will they choose to use that footage of the other security camera to find exactly how Emma died and maybe save her? If Emma died because Xiaoshi changed the past, isn't fair that they undo this change to save her? Idk if I'm just slow, but I didnt realize both attackers we've seen are wearing the same hat and sweater despite being different people. I think this really hints towards the ultimate big bad being someone who can control other people. Maybe with a similar power to the bois. |
Kathrina_Shade said: The truth is, now we will never know if Emma would have died if Xiaoshi hadn't intervened or not. That's they key phrase, "we don't know". The only thing we know for sure is that Liu Min only got her that day because of Xiaoshi's action. If not on that opportunity, then when? Would he have other opportunity? Would he still want to kill someone? Was he even thinking about killing her when he lured her to his car? We don't know, the characters don't know. They can't know when a person will die, how can they predict that under normal circunstancies? The only thing that they know is that they changed the past and a person died because of this. If they undo this to save her now and she dies later doesn't matter. Makes sense to you or anyone here to say, "we can't save her now because she'll die eventually anyway"? I'm know that I'm biased about this dilemma, and even created a thread about this, but be it, this is my hill and I'll die on it!  |
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ilalochezia said: I honestly can't tell what caliber of storytelling Shiguang Dailiren offers. Is it a good show? Or is it simply average? The story has not and probably will not truly amaze me. Does that mean it is bad? No. But maybe it means that it is simply average. Regardless, I still can't tell. It's about average when you compare with average series, for example, Vivy that ended recently. It's also about changing the past but that anime SHOWS US NOTHING, instead it TELL US EVERYTHING and we just have to believe. Characters just spell their feelings and dilemmas. Compare with Link Click that gives us no exposition, we just see things happening and it's implications, see how we are discussing what the characters may be thinking and what motives them, how we are trying to predict what will happen next based on WHAT WE KNOW ABOUT THEM instead of about WHAT THE PLOT WANTS TO DO. Also, contrary to Vivy that have a very good studio with very good animations and some impressive Sakuga, the animation in Link Click is simple and utilitarian, but uses the little it have to do the most with it with the direction and editing. Vivy have some VERY DETAILED shots (trying to mimic Dezaki's post cards), but they MEAN NOTHING, absolutely nothing, tells us nothing. When Link Click does something different like inside that trunk it's to help put us in the character's place to better understand him, what he is feeling, what may motivate his actions. That's why it's an above average story and series, it's does simple things that your average anime is unable to do no matter how many good animators they may have. |
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| To be honest I don't want to blame Cheng Xiaoshi this bad but seriously his friend disappeared because he didn't act according to the rules, as well as in Emma's case. Doesn't he realize that his act changed something in their past? Even if it was just a small thing that changed, it could make a difference to their future. Stop messing around, Cheng Xiaoshi. I understand that he wants to help people, with his ability and kindness.. but what he is doing is something that is risky and dangerous. Hopefully because of this incident you are fully aware that when you were entered a photo, you are not you. You are being someone else. Please listen to what Lu Guang is saying. |
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