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May 20, 2021 2:23 AM
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Oh Manta, sometimes he really does show the curiousity and behavior of a kid his age. Honestly, I found this episode kinda amusing given the context of his personality.

Not a bad episode although it was kinda hard to take it seriously at times compared to a few of the others. Oh and Ren seems to be moving forward more into his plans.
May 20, 2021 2:32 AM
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This one was pretty well made.

I'm very surprised they actually showed Ponchi and Konchi doing... well this. I was sure the anime will follow the Kodansha reprint and change the scene accordingly, but no, we may not have gotten gore in the fight vs Faust, but we did get... whatever this can be called in it's full uncesored 1999... "glory"

I do not really mind this scene being there, I just am surprised it got into the anime, I usually block it off from my memory ^^'

Fairly confident we did get everything important in this episode, Tamao came across less shy than she was in the manga, but that is absolutely fine.

A tiny added scene to visualise Yoh inside the cave was a nice touch, and we get Ren's motivations in their full extent, which is something I was worried about getting cut.

There are only two lines of dialogue I am missing from this episode "even if I manage to somehow beat Ren, I will have to fight Faust again" which just stresses a little bit more how highly Yoh thinks of Faust, even though he wasn't all that strong compared to his other opponents

And, this one I may have just missed, I do watch them on TV afterall, but I believe Yoh didn't describe Ren's over soul as "beyond anything I understand".

But yeah, overall this episode proper adaptation, no bigger complaints.

EDIT : this was the last week I have free time to watch the episode as it airs on TV, so from now on these posts will be coming a few hours later
May 20, 2021 2:35 AM
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Man this series is not at all popular here compared to other shounen jump animes.
Sad
May 20, 2021 3:52 AM
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Shaman King 2021 score:6.99
Jujutsu Kaisen, Demon Slayer and others average shows score: over 8.50
What's wrong with peoples
May 20, 2021 4:23 AM
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nkozic_7 said:
Shaman King 2021 score:6.99
Jujutsu Kaisen, Demon Slayer and others average shows score: over 8.50
What's wrong with peoples


How does any of that relate to episode 8 of Shaman King again? ^^'

Give it time for the story to get going, and the score will go up. I would say that Shaman King would never stand on top of the scores among the average viewers, but with this adaptation rushing or cutting a lot of the things that make Shaman King, it's actually likely it will be highly rated.

I really doubt it could ever compete with Demon Slayer though. Regardless of anyone's individual opinion, Demon Slayer has made history and made what is likely to stay as unbeatable sales record.
May 20, 2021 4:34 AM
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TakafumiNaito said:
nkozic_7 said:
Shaman King 2021 score:6.99
Jujutsu Kaisen, Demon Slayer and others average shows score: over 8.50
What's wrong with peoples


How does any of that relate to episode 8 of Shaman King again? ^^'

Give it time for the story to get going, and the score will go up. I would say that Shaman King would never stand on top of the scores among the average viewers, but with this adaptation rushing or cutting a lot of the things that make Shaman King, it's actually likely it will be highly rated.

I really doubt it could ever compete with Demon Slayer though. Regardless of anyone's individual opinion, Demon Slayer has made history and made what is likely to stay as unbeatable sales record.

It doesn't. I said it generally. I understand what you wanted to say and i agree with that. I hope you're right, Shaman King deserve a lot more than this.
May 20, 2021 11:26 AM
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Poor Manta, I felt so bad for the kid. Firstly, his family is filled with jerks, and then considering what Yoh did to him broke him more even tho Yoh was thinking for his safety. He can't take any more chances with his life. But, I'm glad he didn't take it too personally.

Yoh, on the other hand after losing has gone back to Izumo to train and become stronger since there are so many stronger opponents he'll have to face from now on. That Tamao girl is cute and she cares about Yoh too. We saw another love interest or rival, not technically since Anna is already his fiance. Anna is mean. LOL

Happy to see that their friendship wasn't that weak to break away that easily. Yoh's oversoul has also evolved which is great for him.
May 20, 2021 12:07 PM
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Uff, I'm sorry Tamao, I like you, but not as much as Anna...
The 7 days and 7 nights are supposed to be over? How fast
Yayy, power up for Yoh, I guess he can fight Ren now
May 20, 2021 12:30 PM
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Anna is always waifu
May 20, 2021 12:31 PM

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Even Manta's little sister is really small.
May 20, 2021 1:21 PM

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Maybe I'm forgetting stuff but Mannoko wasn't on the original anime, right?
Was anyone from Manta's family?
May 20, 2021 2:02 PM

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Luxeraph said:
Maybe I'm forgetting stuff but Mannoko wasn't on the original anime, right?
Was anyone from Manta's family?


Not afair
I thought this episode was well done too, it felt alot more fullfilling than the previous one.

May 20, 2021 2:24 PM
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Shaman King 2021 score:6.99
Jujutsu Kaisen, Demon Slayer and others average shows score: over 8.50
What's wrong with peoples


Because this new remake is skipping a lot of stuff from the manga and the pacing is ridiculously fast, I can't believe I waited so long for this adaptation just to be disappointed.... But it's not all bad cause the mangas getting reprinted
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SolTRF said:
nkozic_7 said:
Shaman King 2021 score:6.99
Jujutsu Kaisen, Demon Slayer and others average shows score: over 8.50
What's wrong with peoples


Because this new remake is skipping a lot of stuff from the manga and the pacing is ridiculously fast, I can't believe I waited so long for this adaptation just to be disappointed.... But it's not all bad cause the mangas getting reprinted

they didn't skip anything important ... they want to finish that start as soon as possible and to continue the story properly, so thats why it's fast .. and money is a problem of course, they don't have the budget to make 100 episodes because of the whole situation ... Even Mappa studio couldn't finish Aot from once(32 episodes) and they have a high budget ...
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nkozic_7 said:
Shaman King 2021 score:6.99
Jujutsu Kaisen, Demon Slayer and others average shows score: over 8.50
What's wrong with peoples


I like Shaman King, but nothing really special has happened yet. It's pretty much average so far.
May 20, 2021 3:30 PM
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dudeidunno said:
nkozic_7 said:
Shaman King 2021 score:6.99
Jujutsu Kaisen, Demon Slayer and others average shows score: over 8.50
What's wrong with peoples


I like Shaman King, but nothing really special has happened yet. It's pretty much average so far.

That's true, but everything is going to change very soon😉
May 20, 2021 3:47 PM

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so Yoh evolved his Over Soul eh and an Over Soul can evolve forever? there is no hitting peak evolution and going devolution or entropy? lol

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nkozic_7 said:
dudeidunno said:


I like Shaman King, but nothing really special has happened yet. It's pretty much average so far.

That's true, but everything is going to change very soon😉


Yes, that is true, but we have yet to see if that will be adapted properly. I'm hoping for at least some good fight scenes in there.
May 20, 2021 4:18 PM
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It should be done in 2 chapter but i know the studio wanna finished the first chapter asap before the shaman fight happen. I bet we have American Arc in the 15 episode.

Honestly, so far its like watching recap 1st anime with very fast pacing.
May 20, 2021 4:26 PM
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How to speed up a training arc: go through super saiyan training.
May 20, 2021 4:43 PM

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man i did not expect that kind of backstory for manta. new chara too ! girl who's pinning yoh ofc, a one sided crush. yoh's grandpa was kind of an ass to her lmao but what he said Was probably the truth
May 20, 2021 4:47 PM

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Tamao's spirits...that fight was super disgusting. Maybe kid me would have liked this humor back in the day. It just felt so random and gave me a major wtf moment. lmao

At least the training arc was over fast, it didn't have any impact whatsoever tho. lol
May 20, 2021 5:49 PM
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dudeidunno said:
nkozic_7 said:

That's true, but everything is going to change very soon😉


Yes, that is true, but we have yet to see if that will be adapted properly. I'm hoping for at least some good fight scenes in there.

I just wanted to say, from the perspective of someone who has not read the manga in any form, this show isn't just average, it's lazy.

there's no energy or charm in what we've seen so far. I hope this is because they are rushing to the "good arcs", but if this is going to be the general attitude of the show then I can't see it getting a much higher rating
May 20, 2021 6:32 PM

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Now that Yoh endured that week long hellish training his match against Ren should be lit.
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May 20, 2021 6:49 PM

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Holy hell, I forgot how relentless Manta's family is. But even more worse than most, his spineless behaviour has caused Yoh more losses than wins, to which in the Shaman Fight, there's no pleasantries for emotions and hurts.

Even Wooden Sword Ryu and his minions have already found their Best Place, and forcing Manta on the ride and journey to Izumo to seek Yoh, pretty typical stuff for its day. But both of them brining calamity to Yoh as told by Tamao? Sure sounds like a sinister plan.

Tamao with Ponchi and Concho against Manta and Ryu in the face of death, thank Anna for sparing lives. "I'm Yoh's wife, and you're his fan." OH THE HURT, BIG OOF.

Beneath it all, Yoh has improved from his training back home, and everyone is finally on the same track. The return match with Tao Ren is impending.
May 20, 2021 7:20 PM

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We can't have a slightly explicit panel of Faust slicing Manta's abdomen open but seeing Manta getting trapped in a huge scrotum is totally fine... okay.

In the end, it seemed Yoh's "hellish" training only lasted one afternoon with this pacing.
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It was pretty solid. I'm glad manta got some character growth and wow.. he has a super large house lol. I wonder if yoh got strong enough to beat ren because by the looks of it, ren isn't a joke at all.



May 21, 2021 3:08 AM

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Another episode, another bunch of L's for Manta, when will the Manta suffering stop lmao. His family is shit, well typical rich family. Glad Ryu is helping Manta, so Manta can find his best place, this was a needed development for him.

Anna is best waifu of course, but Tamao is pretty cute too. Anna really called herself Yoh's wife and then Tamao, Yoh's fan lmao. What the fuck were those ballsac spirits though, Ponchi and Conchi. That was disgusting, Ponchi's ballsac straight swallowed Manta and then Konchi pissed at him lmao.

Let's go, our local stoner Yoh's furyoku has increased after spending 7 days in the netherworld. I am assuming that is not the final form of his oversoul. Man, Ren is so cool now, looking forward to "Yoh vs Ren again!".
May 21, 2021 3:34 AM

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Once again the actual training is off screen and as a result Yoh evolves his oversoul, the dispute between Yoh and Manta is resolved with complete ease and that pink haired girl gets a clunky introduction. Nothing feels earned.
Watching this now, I like the actual content of Shaman King more than I remember from the vastly superior older anime, but this half assed adaptation is making it hard to get in to.
I don't know why I'm still watching it. Maybe I'll pick up the manga instead
May 21, 2021 4:12 AM
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in training aspects it was cool this is making it good, i hope Asakura face Ren again.
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May 21, 2021 7:07 AM

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so...was the dirty hairy tanuko balls in the original show? -_-
(sub obviously since it would never get passed Kids WB)
May 21, 2021 7:40 AM

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Was not expecting Ponchi and Conchi to be uncensored. Not even the manga reprint did that.
May 21, 2021 9:06 AM
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Shaman King 2021 score:6.99
Jujutsu Kaisen, Demon Slayer and others average shows score: over 8.50
What's wrong with peoples


Shaman King has been 5/10 at best anime so far.

Maybe even 4 as I'm mostly generous with my rating.
May 21, 2021 9:33 AM
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nkozic_7 said:
Shaman King 2021 score:6.99
Jujutsu Kaisen, Demon Slayer and others average shows score: over 8.50
What's wrong with peoples
The original series is 7.78 which so far has been the better one
May 21, 2021 11:00 AM

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This episode was decent. I watched it in fear that after the half point mark the fight will magically start, instead we got the whole episode for some development which is great.

Again, I liked the soundtrack during this one and Tamao's introduction was nice.
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May 21, 2021 1:41 PM

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nkozic_7 said:
Shaman King 2021 score:6.99
Jujutsu Kaisen, Demon Slayer and others average shows score: over 8.50
What's wrong with peoples


Ppl rate JJK and DS for their amazing animation, their story itself is pretty below average.
May 21, 2021 2:37 PM
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Then I was sad, I thought that finally it would be Ryu's moment to shine and he was completely humiliated, as always...
May 21, 2021 4:16 PM

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No issues with this episode; a lot was covered but it all worked for me just fine. Got a good semblance of the characters and what was happening.

Could've sworn Ryu also swooned over Tamao.... but maybe in another episode. I know the joke was that he always was into any loli he saw, so in time, I'm sure.


I was surprised to see Tanuki balls in this one, but I'm glad they were left in and it wasn't even a big deal. It's not in Japan at all, where that's just part of the myth. Overall, good episode. 4/5
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May 21, 2021 5:29 PM
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This one was pretty well made.

I'm very surprised they actually showed Ponchi and Konchi doing... well this. I was sure the anime will follow the Kodansha reprint and change the scene accordingly, but no, we may not have gotten gore in the fight vs Faust, but we did get... whatever this can be called in it's full uncesored 1999... "glory"



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Was not expecting Ponchi and Conchi to be uncensored. Not even the manga reprint did that.


Wait, did the english version censor it??? Even if its a gross scene, WTF???
I'm currently buying the argentine edition and the scene is still there. The edition is a 2 in 1 version of the 2020 (japanese) Kodansha edition, so I'm assuming it's also not censored there
May 21, 2021 5:46 PM
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I don't know how they are able to make the pace worse every episode
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I don't know how they are able to make the pace worse every episode


Your hate boner is so strong at this point, you go in wanting and ready to hate every new episode now, regardless of actual quality; I think that's the reason. Extreme predetermined bias.
Life can be cruel and unfair. At worst it can traumatize and cripple you. The desire for wanting things to return to the way they were can cost everything and changes nothing. The best way is to keep moving forward, struggle on.
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Was this always so deep? So weird how many things I don't remember- but Ryuu's simple life philosophy and how relatable Manta is and his relationship with Yoh- and gdi I seem to vaguely recall Ponchi and Conchi?? But that kick in the nuts and being pissed on by a spirit- and you think nobody could forget something like that... xD Also, Yoh needs to have his hair up more often. Absolutely adorable.

His cave training felt like a major skip, though, like there should've been more there? Just like the very start of the episode, where I had to wonder whether I missed an episode or something.

BUT REN!!! still absolutely glorious. All the things I love about him, including his silly obsession with milk.
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His cave training felt like a major skip, though, like there should've been more there?

BUT REN!!! still absolutely glorious. All the things I love about him, including his silly obsession with milk.


I did hear this a few times from reactors, but no, the cave training wasn't skipped content. In fact, the anime showed more of the cave than the source material ^^'
Yoh goes in, we follow Manta and Ryu, and after meeting Tamao they go to welcome Yoh back.

Also, you say Ren's obsession with milk is silly, but over the year since their first encounter he grew like a full head! Manta really needs to consult Ren for growth tips
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nkozic_7 said:
Shaman King 2021 score:6.99
Jujutsu Kaisen, Demon Slayer and others average shows score: over 8.50
What's wrong with peoples

Well there are some people that are saying first: "this is bad" and a majority that can't think for themselves just copy what the first ones said. Look how many people say this anime is bad and not good as first, I will say the same to others with the same quotes to show how good I can score an anime based on someone else thinking. So if you want anime with good scores they need either good news based on TV rating, how many sells it gave and so, either to be an influencer to tell the people that is good because if you search on youtube about this new reboot, mostly who posted say it ruins the show, and thats wrong cuz it makes a lot of others to think the same, people after saw just one of these videos are watching the show with other eyes saying: "eh, anyway is not good like the youtuber said, but I will watch anyway to see how bad it is" and they do not understand they are enjoying watching the show. Even if it have to be forced in 52 episodes because who knows why, they are making a good work.
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nkozic_7 said:
Shaman King 2021 score:6.99
Jujutsu Kaisen, Demon Slayer and others average shows score: over 8.50
What's wrong with peoples

Well there are some people that are saying first: "this is bad" and a majority that can't think for themselves just copy what the first ones said. Look how many people say this anime is bad and not good as first, I will say the same to others with the same quotes to show how good I can score an anime based on someone else thinking. So if you want anime with good scores they need either good news based on TV rating, how many sells it gave and so, either to be an influencer to tell the people that is good because if you search on youtube about this new reboot, mostly who posted say it ruins the show, and thats wrong cuz it makes a lot of others to think the same, people after saw just one of these videos are watching the show with other eyes saying: "eh, anyway is not good like the youtuber said, but I will watch anyway to see how bad it is" and they do not understand they are enjoying watching the show. Even if it have to be forced in 52 episodes because who knows why, they are making a good work.

Now when I think in that way, you're probably right. But I'm not worried to much.. You know who will arrive very soon and from that moment everything is different from the old anime so i assume they wont rushing anymore..
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I did hear this a few times from reactors, but no, the cave training wasn't skipped content. In fact, the anime showed more of the cave than the source material ^^'
Yoh goes in, we follow Manta and Ryu, and after meeting Tamao they go to welcome Yoh back.

Also, you say Ren's obsession with milk is silly, but over the year since their first encounter he grew like a full head! Manta really needs to consult Ren for growth tips

Ah, ok. Never got to the source material sadly, so I really have no idea - thanks for the info!

And hey, I never said it isn't effective! xD But wow, that's really been a year since their first encounter? O.o I sure can't seem to follow the flow of time tbh....
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Was that a scrotum??? But overall I think this was a okay episode.

nkozic_7 said:
Shaman King 2021 score:6.99
Jujutsu Kaisen, Demon Slayer and others average shows score: over 8.50
What's wrong with peoples
As someone who has never read the manga or watched the 2001 adaptation. This anime lacks compared to the ones you listed. I can feel like the series is rushed and animation isn't really exciting. Story hasn't really got exciting either and that small dude is very annoying. It's a shame because I've heard people speak highly of the source material and I don't think this anime does the source material justice so far. But I'm going to stick with it and hopefully it turns around.
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Was that a scrotum??? But overall I think this was a okay episode.

nkozic_7 said:
Shaman King 2021 score:6.99
Jujutsu Kaisen, Demon Slayer and others average shows score: over 8.50
What's wrong with peoples
As someone who has never read the manga or watched the 2001 adaptation. This anime lacks compared to the ones you listed. I can feel like the series is rushed and animation isn't really exciting. Story hasn't really got exciting either and that small dude is very annoying. It's a shame because I've heard people speak highly of the source material and I don't think this anime does the source material justice so far. But I'm going to stick with it and hopefully it turns around.

It's Exactly as you said, just wait, in few episodes real story begins
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pffffft it always amuses me how tanuki are usually portrayed with huge balls BUT BEING CRUSHED WITH A NUTSACK? boy that's harsh lmaooooo
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Char design on this shit anime is fuvking horrible! One of the worst ive ever seen!
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