xSugarBits said: Ok. I will continue, but if BL does happen in the later episodes, I will have to drop it.SPIDEY_rockzzzzz said: I have only seen ep.1, but if it hints to BL, I'm out. Outside of the beach epsiode and Adam's entire character it really isn't blatant. And Cherry (pink hair) seems to be a thing for adam, but it's easy to ignore. |
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SASSAGEYObihs said: Why do people call gay stuff cringe and then claim they aren’t homophobic lol. You sound a bit homophobic dude. Saying you don’t like gay shit and stuff. Grow up. I don’t really understand what people’s problems are when it comes to gay relationships. Who cares who someone loves? You people sound pathetic. It’s 2021 and people still don’t accept any form of homosexuality.OK so time to drop it i dont like gay shit don't get me wrong I'm not a homophobic it just cringe that's all |
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Cheryl-chan said: SPIDEY_rockzzzzz said: the Homophobia pooped out-Same. I genuinely cannot stand homosexuality and that is what made me drop Kuzu no Honkai on 8th episode. It's tiresome to see alot of homosexuality support in games that win awards like Last of Us 2 and some anime as well. He's from a country where homosexuals are put to death so i'm not surprised. |
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Nurguburu said: OMG just saw it-Cheryl-chan said: the Homophobia pooped out- He's from a country where homosexuals are put to death so i'm not surprised. yess yess now I understand- |
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Virtua_Grapher said: I dropped the show after ep 1. If this does turn into BL, someone let me know cause I'll pick it up again right away lol. Sad to see a bit of homophobia coming through the thread. Why can't we have just a few queer shows when the medium is already cluttered with thousands of straight romances and canon ships? It's impossible for an anime premised around skating competitions to become a BL, since if there are any relationships itwould most definitely not be the main focus. though one of the two main characters romantically likes another of the same gender (explicitly stated so canon), if you'd like some mogai representation. I'm honestly hoping they can pull something like yuri on ice. |
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Virtua_Grapher said: I dropped the show after ep 1. If this does turn into BL, someone let me know cause I'll pick it up again right away lol. Sad to see a bit of homophobia coming through the thread. Why can't we have just a few queer shows when the medium is already cluttered with thousands of straight romances and canon ships? 'Cause a good chunk of the Japanese population is homophobic? rhetorical question, I know. Anyway I am laughing at the people in this thread. "I'm not homophobic, but" When someone says "blah blah blah, but..." it usually means everything they said before the "but" was total bullshit and lies. Ultrabook said: Virtua_Grapher said: I dropped the show after ep 1. If this does turn into BL, someone let me know cause I'll pick it up again right away lol. Sad to see a bit of homophobia coming through the thread. Why can't we have just a few queer shows when the medium is already cluttered with thousands of straight romances and canon ships? It's impossible for an anime premised around skating competitions to become a BL, since if there are any relationships itwould most definitely not be the main focus. though one of the two main characters romantically likes another of the same gender (explicitly stated so canon), if you'd like some mogai representation. I'm honestly hoping they can pull something like yuri on ice. I mean, from what I gather there is romance in some series like Air Gear. But sports and romance? usually those genres don't mix together very well! But as you say, anime such as Yuri on Ice were able to balance the personal relationships with the sports aspect. SK8 probably could as well, but if it's not the authors intent, there ya go. Though Langa does look a lot like Ash from Banana Fish, and that series was bonafide gay times. (but again, not a focus lol). I think series that don't focus on the romance are nice. Like, you wouldn't want to fill your dinner with salt right? So take it easy... |
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lil_BOMBER said: same thing they both involve 2 males who love eachother There is actually three different terms, but think of it as the difference between "Romance" and "Hentai" Yaoi is m/m porn Shounen-Ai is m/m romance In Japan, I've seen that BL can be used to refer to both of those, particularly 18+ content. In the west, BL seems to be more aimed at more wholesome content rather than pornographic. But at any rate, the terms are totally different. After all, Hentai and Romance are not the same genre, right? :P |
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LovelyTekki said: Meh, personally I am not watching this for shipping because I find other aspects of media more entertaining than "who is in love with who", but I'd be supportive of if they chose to have gay couples in the show. I feel like Reki/Langa becoming canon is a possibility, but I know lots of similar shows can get sort of baity with these sorts of things. I just have an open mind for what comes next at this point! I feel like it's gonna stay as bait. It's a sports anime, stuff like Yuri on Ice was just exceptionally great bait. |
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quercifolia said: Do you know what a "bait" is. What the hell is an "exceptionally great bait" LovelyTekki said: Meh, personally I am not watching this for shipping because I find other aspects of media more entertaining than "who is in love with who", but I'd be supportive of if they chose to have gay couples in the show. I feel like Reki/Langa becoming canon is a possibility, but I know lots of similar shows can get sort of baity with these sorts of things. I just have an open mind for what comes next at this point! I feel like it's gonna stay as bait. It's a sports anime, stuff like Yuri on Ice was just exceptionally great bait. |
swixzy said: quercifolia said: I feel like it's gonna stay as bait. It's a sports anime, stuff like Yuri on Ice was just exceptionally great bait. how was yuri on ice bait? You can read below, but basically, it was bait because it teased a relationship between two characters, but never actually followed through on it. Bernrika said: quercifolia said: Do you know what a "bait" is. What the hell is an "exceptionally great bait" I feel like it's gonna stay as bait. It's a sports anime, stuff like Yuri on Ice was just exceptionally great bait. Well a "bait", sometimes called "fujo bait" or "queerbait", is when a show teases at a gay relationship, but never actually pays out in the end. It hints at it, makes some scenes that can be "interpreted" that way, but never confirms nor denies it. Yuri on Ice is "exceptionally great bait", because it takes the usual bait and makes it 10x more that most anime. They get matching engagement rings and do couples skating. They tease a kiss, but it's magically cut off by a scene change. Them being in love can be one interpretation, but it is NEVER actually confirmed at any point, nor denied. Which is frustrating. But bait lets the authors play the game with all fans. fans who don't want gay and fans who love the gay. If they never confirm nor deny it, it's like Schrödinger's gay. |
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itcouldbedeep said: IamVermillion said: @itcouldbedeep Why do you point out ace? Cherry Blossom's interest in tech? As an ace, I don't consider what I have seen satisfactory asexual representation. It actually seems like it might be poking fun at ace specs. Honestly, after 7 episodes, any of the characters could be ace. That's based on experience and understanding what it means to be ace. I wrote that comment after episode 5 i think? or something like that. I think it would be nice to see satisfactory ace representation since it's so hard to come by in a clear "this person is actually ace" sense. I read the show as not really having a hetero vibe. And in that non heteronormative feel; I felt like gay, bi, queer, and ace people could look at this and see characters that they could relate to. I was getting strong ace vibes from Langa around that time. And felt that a few of the characters could be ace. To be fair, I'm still getting some ace vibes from Langa. I didn't even consider cherry and his a.i because that just seems like comedy to me and not a real element to character relations but I can see how that would feel tone deaf I feel like it's so easy to dismiss and ignore ace coding since it's easy to just assume that the focus isn't on romance and/or sexual attraction and then say the characters are probably ______ and not think ace. tl;dr - I coded as possibly ace for some characters because the show doesn't feel heteronormative I feel that if japan can't even do gay characters right they have no chance whatsoever of doing an asexual character well. :( that or they fall into the whole "aces are cold and emotionless" stereotype. Though if you want some nice representation I watched stars align recently. too bad the production committee cut in half!! |
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quercifolia said: They tease a kiss, but it's magically cut off by a scene change. It wasn't magically cut off, it was censored, by the director's own words. And why would you need to show a kiss anyway? Most anime characters don't even kiss. Does it matter if it's censored? Them being in love can be one interpretation, but it is NEVER actually confirmed at any point, nor denied. Which is frustrating. That's because you don't need to "confirm" it, you just need to actually watch the show. "exceptionally great bait" lmao. Maybe it's just gay and those characters who are clearly in love are in love. |
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Insert_name00 said: I think they were talking about episode 6 when they went to the hot springs. I would call it "general fanservice" rather than "bl fanservice".Sayali567 said: Could you tell me what part of Sk8 The Infinity was bl fan service? If you ask me, it had plenty of plot, great characterisation, and the majority of the scenes between Reki and Langa can be seen as platonic.Yup there is lot of cheap BL fan service in this anime, it's just like Free a fujobait, there are already lot of problems in this anime but to attract more viewers they put cheap fan service, only fujoshis and fudanshis will love this anime anyone who cares about good story, characters and character development will never like this anime, I'm not homophobic but I don't like animes which put unnecessary fan service when it's not one of it's genres like boobs,panty shots, naked girls for male fans and BL scenes for female fans, I hate this so much. |
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Insert_name00 said: That's true, I am curious about it as well.TheOneOfSeven said: Lmao, "bl fanservice" is a weird term, but I was referring to how they were specifically talking about fanservice directed towards fujoshi/fudanshi to 'please the gay shippers'.I think they were talking about episode 6 when they went to the hot springs. I would call it "general fanservice" rather than "bl fanservice". |
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Insert_name00 said: This is a page about our feelings on BL in Sk8...... so, why can't I state my opinion?SPIDEY_rockzzzzz said: Ok dude, we get it. You're a homophobe, so could you kindly fuck off? No one wants to deal with your toxicity.Same. I genuinely cannot stand homosexuality and that is what made me drop Kuzu no Honkai on 8th episode. It's tiresome to see alot of homosexuality support in games that win awards like Last of Us 2 and some anime as well. |
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swixzy said: Agreed, but I would be more understanding if my comment had nothing to do with this thread. However, this thread does tell us to say what we want so why bash on people just because they feel differently. Don't get me wrong, but the dude came on agressively. I mean, why?SPIDEY_rockzzzzz said: This is a page about our feelings on BL in Sk8...... so, why can't I state my opinion? you can and you did, but people still have the right to call you a homophobe and tell you to fuck off |
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swixzy said: I get what you're saying, but this thread asked our opinion which is why I gave my honest opinion. Others who state they support BL and homosexuality in this thread are entitled to what they say. My point is if you wanna discuss something then do it in a way that is not too vulgar. He could've said that my opinion is my opinion and it won't change anything. I would've agreed, but why go agressive? There are always going to be people like him and me, but the difference always comes in our approach.SPIDEY_rockzzzzz said: Agreed, but I would be more understanding if my comment had nothing to do with this thread. However, this thread does tell us to say what we want so why bash on people just because they feel differently. Don't get me wrong, but the dude came on agressively. I mean, why? probably because you said you hate gay people, which is generally a pretty controversial opinion and tends to make people upset. for lots of people, myself included, that kind of thing isn't really even considered a valid opinion but just outright bigotry. still i'm not gonna try to stop you from saying it, just be prepared for people to be angry, because you are pretty much saying you hate a certain type of person just for existing. |
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Insert_name00 said: I do have issues with homosexuality, but I wouldn't fill a homosexual person with lead if I had a shotgun. I'd just look the other way. I get that society is changing and what wasn't acceptable is slowly starting to become acceptable, but you need to understand that everyone has their own opinion and stating them is something that might choose to do. If you're calling a person a bigot just because they stated their opinion on a thread that asks them to give their opinion then that's a violation of freedom to speech. Besides, even if I mention something like "can't handle homosexuality", people would still jump on me just because I said those 3 words.SPIDEY_rockzzzzz said: It's okay if you're just stating your opinion because opinions are generally harmless. But the problem I have with you is that you're being outright homophobic and then disguising it as "just what you think", especially when your comments could negatively impact a person. Maybe this is a personal topic for you, maybe not, but it doesn't make you any less of a bigot.I get what you're saying, but this thread asked our opinion which is why I gave my honest opinion. Others who state they support BL and homosexuality in this thread are entitled to what they say. My point is if you wanna discuss something then do it in a way that is not too vulgar. He could've said that my opinion is my opinion and it won't change anything. I would've agreed, but why go agressive? There are always going to be people like him and me, but the difference always comes in our approach. |
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Insert_name00 said: I keep repeating this and the thread asks us about our feelings for BL. Just because I'm homophobic doesn't mean I can't state what I want in a dual sided discussion thread. Hate towards homosexuals means straight up calling them invalids, but my point is that I'm not calling them that. All I'm saying is that I can't stand them and that hints to homosexuality is turning me off when it's being portrayed in an anime about skating with a red haired MC. All those features of the anime are fine, but this one feature is the buzzkill. There is a difference between hating and intolerance.SPIDEY_rockzzzzz said: You proudly admit to being a homophobe fully aware that you'd get hate for this, but then suddenly get so surprised when someone tells you to fuck off? Once again, opinions that could hurt others without any consideration towards their community or background probably shouldn't be stated in the first place. You don't have to be threatening an lgbtq person with a gun to be a harmful person, I'm pretty sure your attitude towards them is harmful enough.I do have issues with homosexuality, but I wouldn't fill a homosexual person with lead if I had a shotgun. I'd just look the other way. I get that society is changing and what wasn't acceptable is slowly starting to become acceptable, but you need to understand that everyone has their own opinion and stating them is something that might choose to do. If you're calling a person a bigot just because they stated their opinion on a thread that asks them to give their opinion then that's a violation of freedom to speech. Besides, even if I mention something like "can't handle homosexuality", people would still jump on me just because I said those 3 words. |
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Insert_name00 said: LGBTQ didn't have much support in the early 2000s and now it is getting steady support. So, imagine the future full of homosexuals where anime not having anything to do with homosexuality will start to display them soon. Also, an anime is not just one genre. Multiple genres are used to describe an anime. Plus, many elements influence an anime like the setting, people, music, etc. So, how does showing two male MCs going for each other not affect the public? I mean this thread exists for a reason.SPIDEY_rockzzzzz said: I keep repeating this and the thread asks us about our feelings for BL. Just because I'm homophobic doesn't mean I can't state what I want in a dual sided discussion thread. Hate towards homosexuals means straight up calling them invalids, but my point is that I'm not calling them that. All I'm saying is that I can't stand them and that hints to homosexuality is turning me off when it's being portrayed in an anime about skating with a red haired MC. All those features of the anime are fine, but this one feature is the buzzkill. There is a difference between hating and intolerance. Insert_name00 said: I stated my thoughts on this in earlier comments.I hate how people are on here acting as if adding a little lgbtq in anime is going to ruin their lives. It's not like lgbtq is popular in anime to begin with, so why are you so pressed? And even if they added gay relationships in the anime, it's still a skateboarding anime, that was always the main focus to begin with. Characters being gay isn't going to make the entire show suddenly BL just like how characters being straight isn't going to automatically make sports anime into romance instead. And in case you couldn't tell the difference, BL is when the anime is entirely focused on the male same sex relationship. This is a sports anime, so even if characters ended up being gay, it would still be a sports anime because the main focus is SKATEBOARDING. I can't believe I had to explain this to people in 2021. |
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Insert_name00 said: Yes, but it does affect people. For example, take Naruto. The ship wars happened even though romance was a sub-genre. Even Bleach. Pairings are quite an important part of every genre since people want to see 2 characters come together in matrimony thereby making romance important even if it isn't the main focus. So, BL in a skating anime does affect people even if it shouldn't.SPIDEY_rockzzzzz said: I never said that an anime is just one genre, what I'm try to say is that the main genre for Sk8 the Infinity is sports. If there's gonna be lgbtq relationships in it, BL or shounen-ai would be a sub-genre, but STILL not the main focus of the anime.LGBTQ didn't have much support in the early 2000s and now it is getting steady support. So, imagine the future full of homosexuals where anime not having anything to do with homosexuality will start to display them soon. Also, an anime is not just one genre. Multiple genres are used to describe an anime. Plus, many elements influence an anime like the setting, people, music, etc. So, how does showing two male MCs going for each other not affect the public? I mean this thread exists for a reason. |
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Insert_name00 said: You're right. Naruto and Bleach didn't have romance as a sub-genre, but the ship wars did happen. I meant "affect people" and not their homophobic egos. People will always vary in their levels of acceptance with respect to homosexuality. Yuri on Ice had Yuri in its name. It was like a gag for heterosexuals. Again, many enjoyed it and many didn't. Besides, this thread asked us to speak our mind and if Sk8 goes BL, then I'll take my leave since I haven't gone past episode 1.SPIDEY_rockzzzzz said: I'm pretty sure Naruto and Bleach didn't have romance as a genre, and the ship wars were just people fighting over which ship should be canon or not. And by "affect people" you mean affect their homophobic egos, because apparently straight couples in anime is acceptable but when it's even a little gay then they have a problem? If people can put up with straight romances in anime then I'm sure they can put up with gay romances as well. They did it with Yuri on Ice, then I'm sure they can do it with Sk8 The Infinity if they decided to go that route.Yes, but it does affect people. For example, take Naruto. The ship wars happened even though romance was a sub-genre. Even Bleach. Pairings are quite an important part of every genre since people want to see 2 characters come together in matrimony thereby making romance important even if it isn't the main focus. So, BL in a skating anime does affect people even if it shouldn't. |
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