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Had this been any other anime, MAPPA would have been ridiculed to hell. At this point in time, Shingeki no Kyojin's amazing storyline is carrying it through and the blind fanbase keeps rating the trainwreck 10/10 every week.
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One word. Disappointing
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This adaptation is a failure for me . Guess I'll just stick with the manga .


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Jan 17, 2021 7:56 AM

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tirthasg said:
Also, notice how they saved on animation by blackening out the Survey Corps moving around in their 3DMG gear under the pretext of it being night time.
so you want them to lit characters during night scenes when there is no surrounding light?
Jan 17, 2021 7:56 AM

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Okay so in short , if you thought the CG in EP1 was decent/good , the CG in this episode won't disappoint you.
They used that "leaked OST" everyone was talking about. Pretty cool I guess. Attack Titan vs the Warhammer Titan was decent , and the titans looked good for CG standards.
Edit - Just re watched the EP and noticed the CG on Survey Corps during OPM scenes. That looked.... weird.
The characters looked good. They ended the Ep on a good point , when Levi makes his appearance.
Now , Beast Titan looked a lot more shitty than in ep1 in the EP 66 preview , so that's a concerning. Other than that the preview looked good and hype as fuck.
7/10 CG in a few parts falls off but other than that good EP. I am scared for the next EP tho.
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Shadzzo said:
One word. Disappointing
At least they tried with CGI

shingojira-chan said:
This adaptation is a failure for me . Guess I'll just stick with the manga .
You might be better off lol. The manga had better action for me, but talking scenes are fine here.
Jan 17, 2021 7:57 AM

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Yeah too much cgi... I tried to overlook it but it's just too jarring for me. Still a good episode given the time the staff got. I miss wit tho.
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DomineLkira said:
Okay so in short , if you thought the CG in EP1 was decent/good , the CG in this episode won't disappoint you.
They used that "leaked OST" everyone was talking about. Pretty cool I guess. Attack Titan vs the Warhammer Titan was decent , and the titans looked good for CG standards. The characters looked good. They ended the Ep on a good point , when Levi makes his appearance.
Now , Beast Titan looked a lot more shitty than in ep1 in the EP 66 preview , so that's a concerning. Other than that the preview looked good and hype as fuck.
9/10 CG in a few parts falls off but other than that solid EP. I am scared for the next EP tho.



Exactly I agree with what u said but I can't believe this was Warhammer's only screentime and they could've done much better, eh still 8/10 for me tho
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NextUniverse said:
Shadzzo said:
One word. Disappointing
At least they tried with CGI

shingojira-chan said:
This adaptation is a failure for me . Guess I'll just stick with the manga .
You might be better off lol. The manga had better action for me, but talking scenes are fine here.


Im planning to just watch the talking - non battle scenes from now. I will skip the action scenes.
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tirthasg said:
Had this been any other anime, MAPPA would have been ridiculed to hell. At this point in time, Shingeki no Kyojin's amazing storyline is carrying it through and the blind fanbase keeps rating the trainwreck 10/10 every week.

No they wouldn't be. The CG use is already better than 99% of anime. The anime is only hated so much by some people BECAUSE it is attack on titan.
Jan 17, 2021 8:00 AM
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Whatever I liked it,
Though I'm concerned how Corona will affect new episodes. Anyways, 5/5 episode
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NextUniverse said:
Shadzzo said:
One word. Disappointing
At least they tried with CGI

shingojira-chan said:
This adaptation is a failure for me . Guess I'll just stick with the manga .
You might be better off lol. The manga had better action for me, but talking scenes are fine here.
I can agree on the talking scenes . They were pretty good . Mappa shouldn't have handled so much anime in a single year . #MappaPrefersJJk


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Jan 17, 2021 8:01 AM

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An okay episode. As a manga reader gonna talk about the technical stuff mostly.
1. The episode direction in this episode had no problems. It delivered the emotions conveyed in the manga as is. No complaints there.
2. The gamma level in these past two episodes have been really high(really dark grays) so details in the shadows are lost, for eg. the explosive thrown in through the window wasn't visible.
3. The CGI titans look plain bad. Both the art and animation are at odds with the 2D parts of the episode. The good CGI we saw in the 1st episode for this season is missing here. Even the Scouts were in 3D. A big disappointment in this department.
4. The 2D animation isn't all that great either. High speed shots either don't show the scouts or show them in 3D. Other times they are shown in close ups where there is less need of animation.
5. The OST used in this episode was fine. While it somewhat fit the fight scene between Attack Titan and Warhammer Titan, it also drowned out the dialogue portion during the fight. The OST music itself was nothing special. There was a lack of synergy between the music and the visuals.
Jan 17, 2021 8:02 AM
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Sourire said:
tirthasg said:
Also, notice how they saved on animation by blackening out the Survey Corps moving around in their 3DMG gear under the pretext of it being night time.
so you want them to lit characters during night scenes when there is no surrounding light?


Are you being sarcastic or is this a genuine question? If so then I take a moment to check out the manga panels. Isayama-san didn't dark them out just because it's a night scene. This is ridiculous! You're supposed to see the faces of the characters to a certain degree or else it's no different from a silhouette.
Also, we had numerous night scenes in the past seasons and the faces were clear as day. Utgard castle is one that came to my mind right now. Let's be real here. MAPPA failed to deliver.
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Everybody talking about the episode when they're watching it in 480P, at least wait for the 1080P version
I keep moving forward
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shingojira-chan said:
NextUniverse said:
At least they tried with CGI

You might be better off lol. The manga had better action for me, but talking scenes are fine here.
I can agree on the talking scenes . They were pretty good . Mappa shouldn't have handled so much anime in a single year . #MappaPrefersJJk

Saying mappa prefers JJK is just so fucking dumb, lmao
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Even with my expectations at the lowest it was still disappointing. I feel bad for the staff, if they had a good schedule it could have been great, probably.
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It was a decent episode, but definitely nothing special by this series standards. Then again, it wasn't anything special in the manga either and I wasn't expecting much anyway.

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Fanboys overhyped this episode for me and now I’m mad disappointed. I’m not even nitpicking at this point, these are But hey... at least Mikasa looks good.. right?


Mikasa looked fine overall, guess you're just too low T. Also lol @ blaming others for your disappointment. Sure people hyped this up as always, but they do this for pretty much every episode, this fandom is all about hype, reasonable or not. So I'd say it's your problem for being so gullible.

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yuilyjaegar7 said:
shingojira-chan said:
I can agree on the talking scenes . They were pretty good . Mappa shouldn't have handled so much anime in a single year . #MappaPrefersJJk

Saying mappa prefers JJK is just so fucking dumb, lmao

Why is it dumb ? JJK's animation is so much better and superior compared to this . Thats the truth mate . They shouldn't have handled so much anime in the first place .


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Wait people really think the WHT looked bad this episode? I thought the WHT looked great for the most part. And if I remember correctly the scouts have been cg many times in the past when using odm gear. Even so I found the cg on the scouts hard to notice at most times. Only complaints I have with the episode is the AT cg could have been better and the soundtrack is still lacking. I've gotten used to the cgi Titans already so it's whatever, but one thing Mappa really needs to work on going forward are those osts. If they can at least get their ost choices and placement close to or at the level of Wit, it will really elevate this season. Imo this is more important than the cgi titans.
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Even with my expectations at the lowest it was still disappointing. I feel bad for the staff, if they had a good schedule it could have been great, probably.


Hope episode 15 of Jujutsu Kaisen can make up for this bro ❤

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I thought that the cgi will be like the first episode but man am just so disappointed.
For me i don't mind the cgi but
I guess i was hoping for much
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What’s wrong with the people complaining CGI here? It just looks like Ep 1 CGI which is decent-good. Although to my surprise, few survey corps scenes are also cgi, i can agree that 2d might look better at that aspect but they only lasted few seconds so no big problem.

Can we appreciate the first person POV of survey corp, that was beautiful and Willy talk with Magath is indeed getting re-arranged to this episode which pleased me a lot. Overall i’m pretty happy with the adaptation for this episode and that cliffhanger is just harsh
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All these CG comments tho. I didn't expect this much lol

Rewatching this in higher quality, these complaints are warranted tho. There's plenty right with this ep, but at the same time, the issues behind this production are really highlighted. Real shame tbh.
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shingojira-chan said:
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Saying mappa prefers JJK is just so fucking dumb, lmao

Why is it dumb ? JJK's animation is so much better and superior compared to this . Thats the truth mate .

Yeah but you need to take into account that JJK is less demanding to animate and it had a way better schedule.
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An okay episode. As a manga reader gonna talk about the technical stuff mostly.
1. The episode direction in this episode had no problems. It delivered the emotions conveyed in the manga as is. No complaints there.
2. The gamma level in these past two episodes have been really high(really dark grays) so details in the shadows are lost, for eg. the explosive thrown in through the window wasn't visible.
3. The CGI titans look plain bad. Both the art and animation are at odds with the 2D parts of the episode. The good CGI we saw in the 1st episode for this season is missing here. Even the Scouts were in 3D. A big disappointment in this department.
4. The 2D animation isn't all that great either. High speed shots either don't show the scouts or show them in 3D. Other times they are shown in close ups where there is less need of animation.
5. The OST used in this episode was fine. While it somewhat fit the fight scene between Attack Titan and Warhammer Titan, it also drowned out the dialogue portion during the fight. The OST music itself was nothing special. There was a lack of synergy between the music and the visuals.
Guess Imma stick with the manga.............
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tirthasg said:
Had this been any other anime, MAPPA would have been ridiculed to hell. At this point in time, Shingeki no Kyojin's amazing storyline is carrying it through and the blind fanbase keeps rating the trainwreck 10/10 every week.

"the blind fanbase" Not everybody has to agree with you. The flaws you see may not be that big of a deal for the majority of the fan base. Let the people enjoy the show.
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DomineLkira said:
tirthasg said:
Had this been any other anime, MAPPA would have been ridiculed to hell. At this point in time, Shingeki no Kyojin's amazing storyline is carrying it through and the blind fanbase keeps rating the trainwreck 10/10 every week.

No they wouldn't be. The CG use is already better than 99% of anime. The anime is only hated so much by some people BECAUSE it is attack on titan.


Are you kidding me? Is there no scope of genuine criticism?
You haven't watched enough anime with decent CGI! The CGI here is no way better than 99% of the anime unless your sample space is just a bunch of poorly made animes from the past.
Jan 17, 2021 8:09 AM

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Another really enjoyable episode.

I figured they would go back to Tybur's conversation with Magath at the start of the episode to clear up a a few questions from the previous episode. Nice transition to Willy's last moment, which was an anime original scene.

Liked Eren's design. Loved the Warhammer design and animation for the most part. The voice was another nice touch because I couldn't imagine what the Warhammer would sound like at all in the manga. Miss Tybur is waifu material in this adaptation.

Mikasa's entrance was superbly done. OST right on point and the best part of the episode in my opinion. I wish they'd re-use more of Sawano because whilst Kohta's OST are pretty good, they just aren't all that memorable.

Was a little disappointed in the overuse of the CGI with some of the characters, but it didn't really detract from my immersion in the moment. Sasha, Connie and Jean all looked really good.

I'm pretty sure Floch had more of a horse-face in the manga but I could be mistaken. His face looked a little chubby to me.

The animation and art out-with the titan battles were all fantastic, and I loved the touch with Gabi gritting her teeth ala Eren in S1 when she picked up the gun.

Levi looks absolutely perfect in this adaptation. The 3DCGI took a bit of getting used to but it's still well done.

All in all, a very good episode with some great action. 9/10.



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FMmatron said:
Mikasa looked fine overall, guess you're just too low T. Also lol @ blaming others for your disappointment. Sure people hyped this up as always, but they do this for pretty much every episode, this fandom is all about hype, reasonable or not. So I'd say it's your problem for being so gullible.

No, no matter how much I keep my expectations low, I get disappointed. I'm not gullible at all, it's just that how MAPPA badly failed at even living up to the 1% of hype I had for this season. Now, I pretty much don't care. I'm done with the anime, I'm still gonna watch it, but now I'm joining the manga readers, that is the only way to cope up with this quality. At least I'm not going as far as harassing staff.




I said keep your hands on the table
Jan 17, 2021 8:10 AM
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Thank god I read the manga,please everyone read the manga atleast after watching each ep,
Althought I kept my expectations to the lowest it was simply a production disaster, nearly full cg ep, I can't stand how the things move and look and yeah scouts were cg on alot of scenes sigh, I wish this season won't have any action.
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FMmatron said:
MappaPrefersJJK said:
Even with my expectations at the lowest it was still disappointing. I feel bad for the staff, if they had a good schedule it could have been great, probably.


Hope episode 15 of Jujutsu Kaisen can make up for this bro ❤


It will, JJK never disappoints
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WillofFire700 said:
Wait people really think the WHT looked bad this episode? I thought the WHT looked great for the most part. And if I remember correctly the scouts have been cg many times in the past when using odm gear. Even so I found the cg on the scouts hard to notice at most times. Only complaints I have with the episode is the AT cg could have been better and the soundtrack is still lacking. I've gotten used to the cgi Titans already so it's whatever, but one thing Mappa really needs to work on going forward are those osts. If they can at least get their ost choices and placement close to or at the level of Wit, it will really elevate this season. Imo this is more important than the cgi titans.

Yea I agree the OST placements and choices have been questionable this season. It really bothered me and I'm not the type of guy to nitpick about sounds
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WillofFire700 said:
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Why is it dumb ? JJK's animation is so much better and superior compared to this . Thats the truth mate .

Yeah but you need to take into account that JJK is less demanding to animate and it had a way better schedule.

I know that . Even with a bad schedule WIT was able to impress a casual like me . AOT shouldn't have aired this year . Mappa could be much better if they had more time .


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tirthasg said:
Had this been any other anime, MAPPA would have been ridiculed to hell. At this point in time, Shingeki no Kyojin's amazing storyline is carrying it through and the blind fanbase keeps rating the trainwreck 10/10 every week.

"the blind fanbase" Not everybody has to agree with you. The flaws you see may not be that big of a deal for the majority of the fan base. Let the people enjoy the show.


Who stopped you from enjoying it? And I don't even expect you or anyone to agree with my opinion. But I still reserve the right to put forward my take out here.
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Sasha x Gabi moment





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WillofFire700 said:
shingojira-chan said:

Why is it dumb ? JJK's animation is so much better and superior compared to this . Thats the truth mate .

Yeah but you need to take into account that JJK is less demanding to animate and it had a way better schedule.
exactly why it’s just so fucking dumb to say mappa prefers jjk, lmao
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so you want them to lit characters during night scenes when there is no surrounding light?


Are you being sarcastic or is this a genuine question? If so then I take a moment to check out the manga panels. Isayama-san didn't dark them out just because it's a night scene. This is ridiculous! You're supposed to see the faces of the characters to a certain degree or else it's no different from a silhouette.
Also, we had numerous night scenes in the past seasons and the faces were clear as day. Utgard castle is one that came to my mind right now. Let's be real here. MAPPA failed to deliver.
They were lit by the moonlight in that scene. No I’m not being sarcastic.
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I am so happy. One thing I learned, I am never bothered by CGI.

The Attack Titan’s roar is so damn good. It sounds so great. Last episode it sounded fine but now it’s way more terrifying. So many move drawings. I am really thankful to MAPPA for taking this. The soundtrack choice was at Mikasa’s entry is amazing. They used some cool soundtrack during Warhammer and Attack Titan’s fight too.

As expected, CG was a very great for Attack Titan in my opinion, it looks scary,(This is my opinion, I don’t give a shit if you think it looks bad). loved those CGI movements of titans. Now watch as 10 MAPPA haters come after me. AoT that I once knew is came back.

CGI for characters is indeed a good and clever choice for the health of animators and for future episodes. that will have way more fighting. Thank you and love you MAPPA for animating this with full hardwork. This is my endpoint, people who are bothered and suffered by this episode may rest in peace. If you born again you should not watch it. You don't deserve it. WIT is a clever studio thats why they give this project to MAPPA. If you are clever you know.

It’s a 5/5 episode

But hey... at least MAPPA take this project right?? What if nobody take it??! Think again...
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tirthasg said:


Are you being sarcastic or is this a genuine question? If so then I take a moment to check out the manga panels. Isayama-san didn't dark them out just because it's a night scene. This is ridiculous! You're supposed to see the faces of the characters to a certain degree or else it's no different from a silhouette.
Also, we had numerous night scenes in the past seasons and the faces were clear as day. Utgard castle is one that came to my mind right now. Let's be real here. MAPPA failed to deliver.
They were lit by the moonlight in that scene. No I’m not being sarcastic.


Not bright enough for me. Let's just agree to disagree.
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All these CG comments tho. I didn't expect this much lol


What, you didn’t expect people to whine and complain? This is the MAL AoT Manga readers were talking about.
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AT least the camera movement and ODM scenes looked fire, also WHT forming weapons and the Levi entrance and also the Mikasa vs WHT scene. but the ugliness of WHT design and AT cg design in this ep largely disappoint me.........
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well the action was decent even tho its CGI, not too bad but not great either. my only issue is scouts being CGI and the attack titan model, it was weird.

the leaked OST was used too and its good, i didnt expecting the female titan ost would be used here tho lol. and yes i kinda agree the OST is lacking so far by AOT standard

overall it was a great pacing wise and decent action wise episode. im glad i always keep my expectations in check especially after last episode

time to wait another week
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Honestly Mappa really did a good job. From episode 1-6 its really good.

But i have too much expectationTvT)
Throughout the episode i laughed so much, cant stand the CGI.

I must lower my expectation. Ill just wait until this season to finish.
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tirthasg said:
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"the blind fanbase" Not everybody has to agree with you. The flaws you see may not be that big of a deal for the majority of the fan base. Let the people enjoy the show.


Who stopped you from enjoying it? And I don't even expect you or anyone to agree with my opinion. But I still reserve the right to put forward my take out here.

Nah I never said I didn't agree with you I kinda see your point , what I'm saying is calling the fanbase blind for disagreeing with you is kinda dumb.
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shingojira-chan said:
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At least they tried with CGI

You might be better off lol. The manga had better action for me, but talking scenes are fine here.
I can agree on the talking scenes . They were pretty good . Mappa shouldn't have handled so much anime in a single year . #MappaPrefersJJk
Its not that mappa prefers jjk, thats not how it works. Its just that jujutsu has a way better schedule and its director is probably one of the best when it comes to handling action, while aot director is more experienced in overall directing and storyboards.
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I'll just say that I'm more hyped for the later dialogue scenes than the action ones.
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Once again I don't understand how people think the WHT looked bad in this episode
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Yeah but you need to take into account that JJK is less demanding to animate and it had a way better schedule.

I know that . Even with a bad schedule WIT was able to impress a casual like me . AOT shouldn't have aired this year . Mappa could be much better if they had more time .

totally agree, i prefer another year to make it great than a downgrade like this. shame on the committee
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No they wouldn't be. The CG use is already better than 99% of anime. The anime is only hated so much by some people BECAUSE it is attack on titan.


Are you kidding me? Is there no scope of genuine criticism?
You haven't watched enough anime with decent CGI! The CGI here is no way better than 99% of the anime unless your sample space is just a bunch of poorly made animes from the past.

Lol. Never said any of that. It's a fact that some people hate this adaptation because it's AOT. Studio WIT's animation has made the fans spoiled. If it was some other anime no one would have cared about the CG. I would even go as far as to say it would have been counted in one of the better use of CG in this medium.
The CG on the Corps looked awful tho , I will give you that. MAPPA using CG on things other than the titan fights is concerning.
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