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Dec 13, 2020 8:42 AM

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Blackkatsu001 said:
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The direction of this episode was God-tier and don't let anyone convince you otherwise. Also, I like how quiet it is here compared to when the first episode aired. People are enjoying the episode, no one is posting 10 threads a minute complaining. Very wholesome energy. Lets keep it.

Do you think '' MironBiron'' gonne like it ?
I would assume so, the direction, character acting, background and OST are all better this episode IMO, and those are the things he will notice. I'll be surprised if he says otherwise.
Dec 13, 2020 8:43 AM
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Blackkatsu001 said:
I_Am_Freeballing said:
The direction of this episode was God-tier and don't let anyone convince you otherwise. Also, I like how quiet it is here compared to when the first episode aired. People are enjoying the episode, no one is posting 10 threads a minute complaining. Very wholesome energy. Lets keep it.

Do you think '' MironBiron'' gonne like it ?
He will bitch about pacing and can say "this was lil better than 1st ep but still mappa ruined aot read the manga wit was the best"
Dec 13, 2020 8:45 AM
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I_Am_Freeballing said:
The direction of this episode was God-tier and don't let anyone convince you otherwise. Also, I like how quiet it is here compared to when the first episode aired. People are enjoying the episode, no one is posting 10 threads a minute complaining. Very wholesome energy. Lets keep it.

Haha... We agree on a lot of things let me just add you
Dec 13, 2020 8:47 AM

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Blackkatsu001 said:
I_Am_Freeballing said:
The direction of this episode was God-tier and don't let anyone convince you otherwise. Also, I like how quiet it is here compared to when the first episode aired. People are enjoying the episode, no one is posting 10 threads a minute complaining. Very wholesome energy. Lets keep it.

Do you think '' MironBiron'' gonne like it ?


I hope so, but I think he has given up
Dec 13, 2020 8:48 AM

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This was pretty good, better than the usual dialogue-heavy chapters done by Wit IMO.
Dec 13, 2020 8:49 AM

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Didn't expect much since I've read the manga and all I remembered was that it's gonna be a dialogue episode, but damn did I enjoy watching every minute of it. Great atmosphere, made me even more hyped to see the rest animated.
Dec 13, 2020 8:52 AM

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dicecop said:
Things that I noticed: Mappa's art style has some sort of low frame fluidity to it. It's not bad, but it definitely different from WIT's style. It almost makes the movements look like CGI. The pacing is also too fast imo, bit I don't think they can slow it down without losing the audience which just want the action.


Thank you for pointing this out. I too notice this.
Dec 13, 2020 8:54 AM
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Absolutely stellar on the directing front. At some points it seemed a bit too ambitious for the staff, but wow, it’s easily some of the best directing in the entire series. Brilliant characters acting too. Would definitely be up for more episodes like this.
Dec 13, 2020 8:54 AM
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I really loved this episode

character animation of this episode was great , feels refreshing and alive...there were many anime original scenes,including an assasination(?) outside Marley HQ (Might just be a suicide attempt) ,
and some extra dialogues in the rail station,

They cut a lot of stuff from ch94 and 95 .....But judging by the preview those scenes specially the flashbacks can be included in the next episode.
A funny interaction between Pieck and Galliard was missing , Marleyans giving vile gazes to the returned Eldian soldiers...and a bunch of other scenes ,so I guess you should wait for the next episode and then read ch93-95 .
Dec 13, 2020 8:57 AM

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AnimeFanTalk said:
dicecop said:
Things that I noticed: Mappa's art style has some sort of low frame fluidity to it. It's not bad, but it definitely different from WIT's style. It almost makes the movements look like CGI. The pacing is also too fast imo, bit I don't think they can slow it down without losing the audience which just want the action.


Thank you for pointing this out. I too notice this.


It would be nice if you could also point out the positives from this episode, it will make you seem like a more reasonable person and not just someone that only looks for the flaws in the episode, because I could confidently say that Mappa did a better job when it comes to character interaction and just dialogue way better than Wit studio.

Not to mention we would have gotten a lot of stills instead of those rotoscoping scenes, I would rather rotoscoping than still images any day.
Dec 13, 2020 8:59 AM

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I mean, it's so obvious, isn't it?

Great episode again, really makes me laugh even more @ people who were worried. And lol, finally got to hear "sasuga Piek-san". She's adorable.
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full character acting episode huh nice but its rough not enough in-between animation to keep it fluid animation

Pieck best girl i love they drawn her good when she is lying in bed or the couch

next episode seems to have simple average animation again and its Reiner flashback


I agree with this, I notice this as well, kinda bother me but not major, but when subs are out persons will be more focusing on reading it so it wont be that noticeable.


Autists will still notice

One Piece episode 914 & 915 & 1027 were a mistake and 957 brought the salvation - FMmatron


Dec 13, 2020 9:02 AM
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mappa cut some cool things from the manga...it looks like they are avoiding some scenes

Like Pike scene, and the dinner scene with Rainer
Dec 13, 2020 9:06 AM
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Bababazooka69 said:
Blackkatsu001 said:

Do you think '' MironBiron'' gonne like it ?
He will bitch about pacing and can say "this was lil better than 1st ep but still mappa ruined aot read the manga wit was the best"


Calm down. People can have their own opinions and it's perfectly fine for him to not like it. Besides he hasn't even stated his thoughts on this week's episode yet, so don't jump to such hasty conclusions.
Dec 13, 2020 9:09 AM

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is the final season available on crunchy roll India?
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Dec 13, 2020 9:11 AM
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lalaland4life said:
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He will bitch about pacing and can say "this was lil better than 1st ep but still mappa ruined aot read the manga wit was the best"


Calm down. People can have their own opinions and it's perfectly fine for him to not like it. Besides he hasn't even stated his thoughts on this week's episode yet, so don't jump to such hasty conclusions.
Not saying people cannot have their opinions but miron is heavily biased towards wit he's already lost hope for the final season being as good as wit i don't think he'll change his opinion.
Dec 13, 2020 9:14 AM

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ramy22 said:
mappa cut some cool things from the manga...it looks like they are avoiding some scenes

Like Pike scene, and the dinner scene with Rainer


Noticed that too, in particular the meeting at the end seemed shorter, but wasn't really sure until I checked the respective chapter. Gotta admit that it's a bit of a bummer that they left out some of the low profile comedy.

One Piece episode 914 & 915 & 1027 were a mistake and 957 brought the salvation - FMmatron


Dec 13, 2020 9:20 AM

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Another thing to add. The music in this episode is way better handled than in the 1st episode. It was incorporated much better. It served as the background score like it should unlike the in your face music of the 1st ep. They really tried too hard in the first ep regarding music. Also, the music just before the episode ended was hype. Hoping to hear more of it in the future eps.
Dec 13, 2020 9:26 AM

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Really well directed episode and I like how they cut chapter 94 into this week’s and next week’s episodes it makes sense for the flow of the story. Animation and art weren't bad at all in this episode. People complain about lack of movement during character interactions when WIT literally had this happen every season and often worse than this.

I re-read chapter 93-94 and the cuts made sense tbh. There was way too much dialogue for a 1:1 adaptation of these 2 chapters.

Dec 13, 2020 9:34 AM

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The above image is the one that I screencapped from the Twitch stream that I watched the episode on. The below omage was leaked before episode 1. I dunno if above one is genuine and not altered by the streamer though. So someone please confirm.

Dec 13, 2020 9:34 AM
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Reiner deserves the fucking world :(

this was so visually amazing oml

" It's not like you've got royal blood in you"- oh sweet colt how wrong you are lmao. At least there are some things even as a non- manga reader that I can understand and be like HA BEAT THAT, THERE ARE SOME MOMENTS WHERE I CAN BEAT THE MATRIX

Woah that transition between zeke to reiner was pretty cool

ayo why does galliard look like that FIX THE HAIR MY DUDE YOU BE LOOKING LIKE A MILK CHOCOLATE CHESNUT
totally forgot about ymir; so she's ded, rip. She looks atrocious in that scene I feel bad :((

PIEKS A CUTIEEEEEE I LOVE HER ALREADY
why was she in titan form for so long??

sophia is hot af omg she's so exotic looking I keep pausing on her

JEAGERRRR. So proud of my self for that one **pats back** thank you, thank you, I am not a genius for nothing

WHY ARE MEN SO EMOTIONAL LMFAOOOO OH AND PLUS GABI pftt this shows makes me crack up "Me!, Me!, Me!" "Thank you all!!!"

Yeah, idr like falco......


GABIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII I LOVE YOUUUUUUUUU

Wait I am confusion. How does zeke not know who his mother is?????


WHY DID I THINK IT WAS REINER AND MARCO WHO WERE BESTIES NOT MARCO AND JEAN LMAOOO
WHICH BRINGS MY TO MY NEXT TOPIC:
They really show us jean's chin at the end of last ep, but he isn't in this one!?!?!?!??!!?!?!?!? explainnnn

bruh is falco a dumbass?? no duh people get ptsd, muchless in war


LMAO I CANT WITH THIS FUCKING SHOW REINER WHY YOU SLANDERING SASHAAA LMAOOOOOO
WAIT HOW DOES HE EVEN REMEMBER IT IN THAT MUCH DETAILLLLLL
AHHH I LOVE THIS MAN YOU ARE RIGHT THEY ARE ALL HOPELESS IDIOTSSSS

why'd someone just randomely jump off a building....

the art is phenomenal

REINER'S MOM JUST HAD TO HAVE THE SAME NAME AS MY MOM NOOOO INLAWS SHOULDNT HAVE THE SAME NAMEEE ;((((((

Okay I take it back, Chesnut hairdo guy is cute, looks very good in greeen

Yk, if they just gave me reiner leaning against a wall i'd be satisfied

I hear that they are minimizing the humor... don't do that to me MAPPA!!!1

REUNIONNNN TIMEEEEEEE
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Dec 13, 2020 9:38 AM
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The rotoscoped scenes really did not look good for me. It's so distracting I don't understand why they would do it. It's also unfortunate they had to cut a few things but that's necessary for pacing.
Dec 13, 2020 9:39 AM

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A bit surprised they cut Pieck being on all four. Guess they're going to minimize humor as much as they can and be more serious. Case being choosing to keep a suicide scene over Pieck being a tease. Would've been awkward seeing a dude offing himself and then laughing with Porco.

I love the look and feel so far. I love what Araki and Wit did but makes me wish MAPPA had been in charge from the get go.

Love the full ending visual with Falco and Gabi. Can't wait for the creditless version.
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Dec 13, 2020 9:51 AM
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Can ayone tell me How was the pacing ? 2 chapters again right ?

And they cut somethings ? Some dialogue or scenes ?

And are there any original scene again ? Like first episode ?
Dec 13, 2020 9:53 AM

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Can ayone tell me How was the pacing ? 2 chapters again right ?

And they cut somethings ? Some dialogue or scenes ?

And are there any original scene again ? Like first episode ?


Pacing seems good, stuff was cut but it was either exposition dialogue or humor that wouldn't have fit the episode a lot
Original scene adding an eldian commiting suicide off a rooftop
Dec 13, 2020 9:59 AM

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Visually breathtaking.
Dec 13, 2020 10:03 AM
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Well I guess it was interesting to see how their world is now... especially for Reiner
Dec 13, 2020 10:04 AM
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Visually breathtaking.
Wait until miron comes and says "compositing sucks, layout sucks, direction sucks, lighting sucks wit was better"
Dec 13, 2020 10:05 AM
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Dunno if somebody wrote it before but the reason why every character was moving like in 15 fps is rotoscoping. To be honest they do not need to experiment with such things. Effects and direction were great , but episode would ve been great if we saw pieck's juicy ass( Overall 1/10 due to this cut...





















10/10


Dec 13, 2020 10:07 AM
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Top tier boring anime. 1/10 instant rate. I read manga and I know it will be boring and shitty till the end.
Dec 13, 2020 10:09 AM

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Dec 13, 2020 10:10 AM
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Haven't watched the episode yet (I will watch it after the subs are out) but imma ask this : DID THEY REVEAL ZEKE'S SECRET???
Dec 13, 2020 10:17 AM
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TomaTTC said:
Haven't watched the episode yet (I will watch it after the subs are out) but imma ask this : DID THEY REVEAL ZEKE'S SECRET???


Yeah, I think they did.
Dec 13, 2020 10:20 AM
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lalaland4life said:
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Haven't watched the episode yet (I will watch it after the subs are out) but imma ask this : DID THEY REVEAL ZEKE'S SECRET???


Yeah, I think they did.


Now I can finally wipe my ass properly
Dec 13, 2020 10:24 AM
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lalaland4life said:
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Haven't watched the episode yet (I will watch it after the subs are out) but imma ask this : DID THEY REVEAL ZEKE'S SECRET???


Yeah, I think they did.


Wait what secret? Did I miss something from the manga?
Dec 13, 2020 10:25 AM
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keragamming said:


Visually breathtaking.


Man you are one of the few People who enjoy the show and didn't nitpcik or cry like a bitches bc some scenes that are not important for the story were cut. Thank you for always pointing the good things instead of the flaws like everyone. I really enjoyed the episode even if it was only dialogue one. My attention was non stop into the Ep. I really liked the rotoscoped scenes, it ad more movement imo. Overall PURE 10/10 for dialogue episode. Also my opinion is that this point go to MAPPA for how good they make the expressions moved, and the mood they set. For this 2nd episode MAPPA:1-WIT:0
Dec 13, 2020 10:28 AM
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They adapted all of 93 and pages 1-26 of 94 (basically everything except the flashback, maybe those will be added in the next episode). Minor cuts
After that, they moved on to 95 where they made a few more substantial cuts.
Dec 13, 2020 10:29 AM
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Fucking loved this eps 3x better than ep1 in every aspect other than some wierd rotoscoping shots and some cuts from the manga this ep was perfect ahh I love this arc and they knew how to capture it, it gave me that monster anime vibes and I loved it.
Dec 13, 2020 10:30 AM
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MAPPA_Enthusiast said:
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Visually breathtaking.


Man you are one of the few People who enjoy the show and didn't nitpcik or cry like a bitches bc some scenes that are not important for the story were cut. Thank you for always pointing the good things instead of the flaws like everyone. I really enjoyed the episode even if it was only dialogue one. My attention was non stop into the Ep. I really liked the rotoscoped scenes, it ad more movement imo. Overall PURE 10/10 for dialogue episode. Also my opinion is that this point go to MAPPA for how good they make the expressions moved, and the mood they set. For this 2nd episode MAPPA:1-WIT:0



Bro why are you comparing them 2 man, you're being just like them. Just consume the episode, but don't say unnecessary shit bro. Im glad you liked the episode though :)
Dec 13, 2020 10:30 AM

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Sadly very sloppy movement animations and some weird rotoscoping with Udo at the harbor and Zeke walking up the stairs, also Gabis dinner conversation was one of the weirdest things I've seen visually animated.. if you can't get in to fluid animations Mappa, just give us a frame and be done with it, this sticks out too much for my taste
Dec 13, 2020 10:38 AM
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I think the braun family dinner scene is mostly CGI, especially Gabi, and the entire dinner table when zooming in into Reiner. Kudos to MAPPA if they are indeed CGI
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Rifle said:
Sadly very sloppy movement animations and some weird rotoscoping with Udo at the harbor and Zeke walking up the stairs, also Gabis dinner conversation was one of the weirdest things I've seen visually animated.. if you can't get in to fluid animations Mappa, just give us a frame and be done with it, this sticks out too much for my taste


It sticks out more because you watching the raw and you are not focusing on any subtitles.
Dec 13, 2020 10:41 AM

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Damn, if it keeps going like this, I might actually have to give this season my first 10/10 for TV anime series. I'm at a loss for words.

Also, why only very few people talk about the ED? Damn is it so beautiful!
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Seems like the ED theme is out so I'll just going to go jam on to that.
I second this.
I just realized that all of my favorite characters, beside being stunningly beautiful, also happen to be exceptionally skilled murder machines. \('-')/

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Dec 13, 2020 10:42 AM
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Really loved how Mappa did the characters animation,AoT sure missed those in a dialogue episodes like these. Very ambitious directing and camera movement too,the staff are really going all out. Pacing was good,the cut off flashbacks will be in next ep so there’s that. Another 10/10 episode. Great job,Mappa!
Dec 13, 2020 10:45 AM

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keragamming said:
Rifle said:
Sadly very sloppy movement animations and some weird rotoscoping with Udo at the harbor and Zeke walking up the stairs, also Gabis dinner conversation was one of the weirdest things I've seen visually animated.. if you can't get in to fluid animations Mappa, just give us a frame and be done with it, this sticks out too much for my taste


It sticks out more because you watching the raw and you are not focusing on any subtitles.


watched it with subs my friend
Dec 13, 2020 10:51 AM

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OK! What an episode!
I wasn't around for the first episode's discussion because I was so friggin excited I figured I would be biased as hell. 😅
But now, this episode showed me everything I needed to see to calm my thoughts. @TheCloverfield knocked it out of the park with a well-written, comprehensive post and left me with nothing to talk about. I don't have much else to say other than, supposedly, this is Mappa when pressured with a tight schedule. Now, just imagine. Great job. This is by far the best acting and most ambitious camera work I've seen in AoT.
Dec 13, 2020 10:52 AM

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I actually enjoyed this much more than I did Episode 1.

The VA's were on point, the pacing was excellent, the dialogue between characters was pertinent, the OST fit the tone, and the animation was good.

You really get the sense that the author wants to develop characters, and wants the viewer to see things from "the other side" so that when the shit inevitably hits the fan, you'll be a little more conflicted.

The did cut out some material here and there, but I don't think it's been permanently cut, just shuffled around and should appear in future episodes.
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BlackKiddo said:
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Man you are one of the few People who enjoy the show and didn't nitpcik or cry like a bitches bc some scenes that are not important for the story were cut. Thank you for always pointing the good things instead of the flaws like everyone. I really enjoyed the episode even if it was only dialogue one. My attention was non stop into the Ep. I really liked the rotoscoped scenes, it ad more movement imo. Overall PURE 10/10 for dialogue episode. Also my opinion is that this point go to MAPPA for how good they make the expressions moved, and the mood they set. For this 2nd episode MAPPA:1-WIT:0



Bro why are you comparing them 2 man, you're being just like them. Just consume the episode, but don't say unnecessary shit bro. Im glad you liked the episode though :)


I was just admiring the great expressions they make in this ep man. That's it. Both MAPPA & WIT have their flaws. The important lesson here is to just enjoy the series (both visually & storywise).
Dec 13, 2020 10:55 AM

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ramy22 said:
I think the braun family dinner scene is mostly CGI, especially Gabi, and the entire dinner table when zooming in into Reiner. Kudos to MAPPA if they are indeed CGI
The characters were 2D in that scene. But that was some really well animated acting in that scene.
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Rifle said:
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It sticks out more because you watching the raw and you are not focusing on any subtitles.


watched it with subs my friend


Huh subs are out already? :0
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YMN_KAT said:
ramy22 said:
I think the braun family dinner scene is mostly CGI, especially Gabi, and the entire dinner table when zooming in into Reiner. Kudos to MAPPA if they are indeed CGI
The characters were 2D in that scene. But that was some really well animated acting in that scene.

I heard the Gabi talking scene was rotoscoped, which could explain why it could've looked cgi to u.
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