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| This show is, to me personally, a masterpiece, because it checks all criteria that I expect from a great anime: -Wholesome romcom SOL - check -Romance right at the start instead of the end - check -Male MC not a clueless, spineless moron like that failure Kazuya that thinks with its dick instead of brain - check -Male MC is a man of Kazuma-level culture and boldness - check -Female MC not a violent tsundere bitch - check -Female MC smug face - double check -Supporting casts not annoying af - check -Even the most annoying character (the blonde loli) is reasonably non-intrusive - check -No filler characters - everyone seems real instead of feeling like they are being put there just for the sake of the MC alone - check -Great OP & ED - check -Truck-kun unable to isekai MC - check |
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xKarosu said: hainq said: -Male MC not a clueless, spineless moron like that failure Kazuya that thinks with its dick instead of brain - check Who is Kazuya? Just curious. There are actually hundreds of male mcs like that. Kazuya is the MC from Rent-A-Girlfriend. He's the typical MC from every romcom anime ever. But the recent anti-simp culture are starting to hate on this type of MC and Kazuya is the first victim on their list. |
| Because the show only focuses on 2 characters, and its easy to tell a story about 2 characters without getting complicated. |
| because it's a show about a anime main character that's already married whos loved one doesn't die tragically which is almost unheard of in anime's. |
| "among monsters and humans, there are only two types. Those who undergo suffering and spread it to others. And those who undergo suffering and avoid giving it to others." -Alice “Beauty is no quality in things themselves: It exists merely in the mind which contemplates them; and each mind perceives a different beauty.” David Hume “Evil is created when someone gives up on someone else. It appears when everyone gives up on someone as a lost cause and removes their path to salvation. Once they are cut off from everyone else, they become evil.” -Othinus  |
xKarosu said: hazarddex said: because it's a show about a anime main character that's already married whos loved one doesn't die tragically which is almost unheard of in anime's. I think that's because that premise sounds very strange haha but I also think they made it work i mean i guess people would see it s refreshing considering how many romance anime are inconclusive as hell. of the romcom in anime the only two i think tops the chart in romance as far as anime's dedicated to romance go are toradora and clannad the latter being more drama then comedy. |
| "among monsters and humans, there are only two types. Those who undergo suffering and spread it to others. And those who undergo suffering and avoid giving it to others." -Alice “Beauty is no quality in things themselves: It exists merely in the mind which contemplates them; and each mind perceives a different beauty.” David Hume “Evil is created when someone gives up on someone else. It appears when everyone gives up on someone as a lost cause and removes their path to salvation. Once they are cut off from everyone else, they become evil.” -Othinus |
xKarosu said: Tell me if you are with me on this. When I think about this show, I think about a generic rom com, saying the premise out loud is almost embarrasing. It's like everything is supposed to be super bland, and then, I repeat and then, for no reason I can't phantom, instead of each episode taking forever like the usual bland show, each episode feels very short somehow. Like, I get myself thinking in the end of each episode eveytime, how did 20 mins passed so quick with this totally linear show that it's even hard to tell why is good? Are the characters great? Absolutely not, I don't even like them that much tbh. The guy is a total simp and the girl is messed up. Nothing really happens that you can say, wow this is very cool. Music? Haha. Character development? I don't know, pretty sure not. Certainly not the art/animation. I'm pretty sure I'm missing why it's good, cause my male brain can't seem to put it to words. Why do you guys think its... good? (strange to say) All the reasons you've described explain why this show isn't good for me. What is the appeal other than the fact that they're a married couple? No character depth, no emotional aspects, dry humor (the "humor" being that they act like they're 12), no plot or goal that the characters aim towards. |
Samt_ said: Hrybami said: Kazuya is the MC from Rent-A-Girlfriend. He's the typical MC from every romcom anime ever. But the recent anti-simp culture are starting to hate on this type of MC and Kazuya is the first victim on their list. The typical romcom MC isn't great, but not as pathetic as Kazuya. The simp word is perfect for him, but I can agree that it's overused now. Kazuya is typically like those MC from romcom anime that are specifically written to be flawed to make them more realistic. We had plenty of these MC in the past. It is easy to say that he is pathetic when you have an idealistic and perfect husband MC like Nasa beside him. That doesn't make any of them better than the other since they were both written with different mindset. Imagine if we swap these two MC from their anime to the other. Both anime would tell a completely different story. |
Hrybami said: Samt_ said: The typical romcom MC isn't great, but not as pathetic as Kazuya. The simp word is perfect for him, but I can agree that it's overused now. Kazuya is typically like those MC from romcom anime that are specifically written to be flawed to make them more realistic. We had plenty of these MC in the past. It is easy to say that he is pathetic when you have an idealistic and perfect husband MC like Nasa beside him. That doesn't make any of them better than the other since they were both written with different mindset. Imagine if we swap these two MC from their anime to the other. Both anime would tell a completely different story. People simply don't understand the purpose of MCs. They think to themselves "wow MC is pathetic! shit show! 1/10!" while completely oblivious to the fact that MCs are deliberately written a certain way for impact. |
Samt_ said: @Opticflash @Hrybami idk about you guys but I don't enjoy watching anime with cringy and irritating characters that have no redeemable qualities or character development. If a character is intentionally flawed or acts in an annoying way, then you need to give them development or give the audience a reason to care about them, and I see neither for Kazuya. At least 3 of the characters in my favorites are intentionally flawed ones, but they receive the 2 things I just mentioned. Nobody has to like a character, so you have all your rights to hate him. But some things you said is just wrong. Kazuya doesn't lack character development. Before all, being flawed is already character development. Also he has been shown has being attentive, careful and have good morals. Yes he's a liar and dense, but what he did good to Chizuru is enough to consider him as a good person. But if you can't see past his flaws to see his actual qualities, then no wonder why you hate him. The show really don't hold on for showing his bad side as shown in his inner thoughts. But Kazuya is written to be like a more realistic person with flaws and good sides. Nasa on the other hand is completely idealistic. We always and only see his good sides. |
Opticflash said: Hrybami said: Kazuya is typically like those MC from romcom anime that are specifically written to be flawed to make them more realistic. We had plenty of these MC in the past. It is easy to say that he is pathetic when you have an idealistic and perfect husband MC like Nasa beside him. That doesn't make any of them better than the other since they were both written with different mindset. Imagine if we swap these two MC from their anime to the other. Both anime would tell a completely different story. People simply don't understand the purpose of MCs. They think to themselves "wow MC is pathetic! shit show! 1/10!" while completely oblivious to the fact that MCs are deliberately written a certain way for impact. Except there's a difference between "wow MC is pathetic! shit show! 1/10!" and "wow MC is pathetic! shit show! However, he actually shows signs of overcoming those flaws". Deku from MHA is a good example of this. He knows he's weak but works hard to actually fix that Kazuya on the other hand? Somehow, despite all the shit he's gone through with all the girls, he still has the exact same insecurities presented in the exact same way in the very beginning. Even after events like the couple's beach with Sumi or the stuff with Chizuru's grandma, there's barely any indication that Kazuya is growing/learning to overcome his most predominant flaw. You could literally read a chapter from the beginning of the series, and one from currently and the only character who would most likely behave differently would be Chizuru (who's honestly the better lead in the series). Any """impact""" Kazuya is being written for is long overdue |
 'On-Hold' is another way for a completionist to say 'Dropped' |
Short_Circut said: Opticflash said: People simply don't understand the purpose of MCs. They think to themselves "wow MC is pathetic! shit show! 1/10!" while completely oblivious to the fact that MCs are deliberately written a certain way for impact. Except there's a difference between "wow MC is pathetic! shit show! 1/10!" and "wow MC is pathetic! shit show! However, he actually shows signs of overcoming those flaws". Deku from MHA is a good example of this. He knows he's weak but works hard to actually fix that Kazuya on the other hand? Somehow, despite all the shit he's gone through with all the girls, he still has the exact same insecurities presented in the exact same way in the very beginning. Even after events like the couple's beach with Sumi or the stuff with Chizuru's grandma, there's barely any indication that Kazuya is growing/learning to overcome his most predominant flaw. You could literally read a chapter from the beginning of the series, and one from currently and the only character who would most likely behave differently would be Chizuru (who's honestly the better lead in the series). Any """impact""" Kazuya is being written for is long overdue So basically if a MC is weak at the beginning and don't turn into a perfect MC at some point in the story, then it's an instant shit show 1/10? |
Hrybami said: Short_Circut said: Except there's a difference between "wow MC is pathetic! shit show! 1/10!" and "wow MC is pathetic! shit show! However, he actually shows signs of overcoming those flaws". Deku from MHA is a good example of this. He knows he's weak but works hard to actually fix that Kazuya on the other hand? Somehow, despite all the shit he's gone through with all the girls, he still has the exact same insecurities presented in the exact same way in the very beginning. Even after events like the couple's beach with Sumi or the stuff with Chizuru's grandma, there's barely any indication that Kazuya is growing/learning to overcome his most predominant flaw. You could literally read a chapter from the beginning of the series, and one from currently and the only character who would most likely behave differently would be Chizuru (who's honestly the better lead in the series). Any """impact""" Kazuya is being written for is long overdue So basically if a MC is weak at the beginning and don't turn into a perfect MC at some point in the story, then it's an instant shit show 1/10? .............................What?? how'd you conclude that lol all I said is contrary to what that OP said, for some people, it's not the issue of having a flawed MC per se, more of the issue of how the MC develops and works towards overcoming those flaws. Something that is very seldom present in KO |
'On-Hold' is another way for a completionist to say 'Dropped' |
Short_Circut said: Hrybami said: So basically if a MC is weak at the beginning and don't turn into a perfect MC at some point in the story, then it's an instant shit show 1/10? .............................What?? how'd you conclude that lol all I said is contrary to what that OP said, for some people, it's not the issue of having a flawed MC per se, more of the issue of how the MC develops and works towards overcoming those flaws. Something that is very seldom present in KO That's pretty much what I said. You expect a realistic character to turn into an idealistic character. There is more than one way a character can develop you know? In Kazuya case, he keeps his previous faults, but develop other qualities afterwards. The story is obviously not complete, so we cannot assert that he remains flawed until the end. However, there is always the option of becoming a better person while still being flawed. What I'm trying to say is that Kazuya is not written to become an idealistic character like Nasa. And that alone is not a good reason to shit on the show. |
| @Hrybami I feel like you're missing my point here You expect a realistic character to turn into an idealistic character. Ignoring how extremely subjective """""realistic""""" is in this context, in no way am I expecting Kazuya to become "idealistic" though?? My (and a lot of others) issue simply stems from the lack of growth regarding overcoming his flaws. Even if he eventually does overcome them, that's not all of a sudden gonna make him "idealisitc", he still has lots of other issues present within him, which is completely fine. It doesn't have to be either side of the spectrum, you can still have a character have development yet still has flaws to them There is more than one way a character can develop you know? There is, yes........except the development needs to actually be there first. Barely anything in the Kazuya present is any different from the Kazuya in the beginning save for maybe a bit of initiative in a few situations (which quickly reverts back though) In Kazuya case, he keeps his previous faults, but develop other qualities afterwards. Except most of the qualities he "develops" were already qualities he had present in the first place? Only, the time wasn't there to show it. And that's the thing about this series, whenever Kazuya has a moment of development and actually speaks his mind, it literally reverts back to status quo just moments later, and the whole process is repeated for however long. The story is obviously not complete, so we cannot assert that he remains flawed until the end. That's completely fair, and we don't even know how long the series will run for in total. But, even if after 166 chapters of normal length manga with this level of pacing (if we look at the original), you still can't properly say Kazuya shows signs his experiences are helping him properly mature, then there is a cause for concern What I'm trying to say is that Kazuya is not written to become an idealistic character like Nasa. That's completely fair too, tbh I'm not even sure from the beginning why Kazuya and Nasa are even being contrasted at all despite being in 2 completely different series' with hardly any similarities lol |
'On-Hold' is another way for a completionist to say 'Dropped' |
Short_Circut said: Except there's a difference between "wow MC is pathetic! shit show! 1/10!" and "wow MC is pathetic! shit show! However, he actually shows signs of overcoming those flaws". Deku from MHA is a good example of this. He knows he's weak but works hard to actually fix that Kazuya on the other hand? Somehow, despite all the shit he's gone through with all the girls, he still has the exact same insecurities presented in the exact same way in the very beginning. Even after events like the couple's beach with Sumi or the stuff with Chizuru's grandma, there's barely any indication that Kazuya is growing/learning to overcome his most predominant flaw. You could literally read a chapter from the beginning of the series, and one from currently and the only character who would most likely behave differently would be Chizuru (who's honestly the better lead in the series). Any """impact""" Kazuya is being written for is long overdue I've heard Kazuya gets "better" in the future from manga readers, although I've never read the manga beyond the current anime ending. I don't know why you'd expect "character development" in one cour if a series like Rent-A-Girlfriend is meant to span at least 4-5 cours. In addition, many people who view the anime are anime-only viewers. The fact that "Wow MC is pathetic!" keeps popping up clearly does indicate that they have an issue with the MC being pathetic, rather than the notion that he doesn't "improve". Take a look at episode 8 and the amount of people commenting on the episode in general on Reddit. It's also quite silly to suggest that a character needs to improve their "flaws" in order for a piece of work to be of quality; it hinges more on what the work is aiming for. If the work was aiming for a conclusion that emphasizes the importance of a healthy, transparent relationship and good communication skills then "character improvement" would be one aspect in its assessment. However if a work was aimed at producing as much drama as possible, then "flawed" characters serve that purpose. |
| @Opticflash I've heard Kazuya gets "better" in the future from manga readers, although I've never read the manga beyond the current anime ending. I don't know why you'd expect "character development" in one cour if a series like Rent-A-Girlfriend is meant to span at least 4-5 course. I've read the manga though, so I think it's fair to say I have a pretty reasonable idea on the overall progression in the series. And given how as I mentioned before there is pretty little development between the beginning and now, I think it's fair to say this would apply if I was anime-only as well but anywho It's also quite silly to suggest that a character needs to improve their "flaws" in order for a piece of work to be of quality; it hinges more on what the work is aiming for. Sure, if the work is aiming for a specific scenario where the character's flaws need to be as present as possible, then yea; that'll be a different story though. However, in most cases (and KO also applies to this) major flaws especially within the protagonist are meant to be addressed as the natural story progresses, something even ones with lots of drama also do (see, Holiday Love). This is just as true with KO, as it does try to show some moments where Kazuya seemingly is actually developing, only for him to return back just moments later. If Kazuya was presented as a static character, then sure, his major flaws no matter how annoying could still be overlooked by what the series is trying to achieve. But no, the series is clearly aiming for Kazuya to develop eventually, but at this point is being unnecessarily drawn out to up the chapter count. So it's clear the work is aiming for Kazuya to eventually address his flaws.....it just has a hard time actually doing so In addition, many people who view the anime are anime-only viewers. The fact that "Wow MC is pathetic!" keeps popping up clearly does indicate that they have an issue with the MC being pathetic, rather than the notion that he doesn't "improve". Take a look at episode 8 and the amount of people commenting on the episode in general on Reddit. but this is fair enough kek. I haven't actually bothered with the actual anime itself so I can't speak about their general consensus (though I have a pretty good idea already), though I do know from the manga side and potentially the anime-only after some time, a good amount of people feel this way (what i had mentioned) |
'On-Hold' is another way for a completionist to say 'Dropped' |
Short_Circut said: @Hrybami I feel like you're missing my point here You expect a realistic character to turn into an idealistic character. Ignoring how extremely subjective """""realistic""""" is in this context, in no way am I expecting Kazuya to become "idealistic" though?? My (and a lot of others) issue simply stems from the lack of growth regarding overcoming his flaws. Even if he eventually does overcome them, that's not all of a sudden gonna make him "idealisitc", he still has lots of other issues present within him, which is completely fine. It doesn't have to be either side of the spectrum, you can still have a character have development yet still has flaws to them There is more than one way a character can develop you know? There is, yes........except the development needs to actually be there first. Barely anything in the Kazuya present is any different from the Kazuya in the beginning save for maybe a bit of initiative in a few situations (which quickly reverts back though) In Kazuya case, he keeps his previous faults, but develop other qualities afterwards. Except most of the qualities he "develops" were already qualities he had present in the first place? Only, the time wasn't there to show it. And that's the thing about this series, whenever Kazuya has a moment of development and actually speaks his mind, it literally reverts back to status quo just moments later, and the whole process is repeated for however long. The story is obviously not complete, so we cannot assert that he remains flawed until the end. That's completely fair, and we don't even know how long the series will run for in total. But, even if after 166 chapters of normal length manga with this level of pacing (if we look at the original), you still can't properly say Kazuya shows signs his experiences are helping him properly mature, then there is a cause for concern What I'm trying to say is that Kazuya is not written to become an idealistic character like Nasa. That's completely fair too, tbh I'm not even sure from the beginning why Kazuya and Nasa are even being contrasted at all despite being in 2 completely different series' with hardly any similarities lol I think you should look up what character development means. Because you seem to think that it either means growing or overcoming flaws. |
Short_Circut said: I've read the manga though, so I think it's fair to say I have a pretty reasonable idea on the overall progression in the series. And given how as I mentioned before there is pretty little development between the beginning and now, I think it's fair to say this would apply if I was anime-only as well but anywho I've heard this and, in general, those who dislike the series as a whole tend to claim he makes little to no improvement. Those who like the series on the other hand tend to claim he does. It's a mixed message, and something I've observed on Reddit. Short_Circut said: Sure, if the work is aiming for a specific scenario where the character's flaws need to be as present as possible, then yea; that'll be a different story though. However, in most cases (and KO also applies to this) major flaws especially within the protagonist are meant to be addressed as the natural story progresses, something even ones with lots of drama also do (see, Holiday Love). This is just as true with KO, as it does try to show some moments where Kazuya seemingly is actually developing, only for him to return back just moments later. If Kazuya was presented as a static character, then sure, his major flaws no matter how annoying could still be overlooked by what the series is trying to achieve. But no, the series is clearly aiming for Kazuya to develop eventually, but at this point is being unnecessarily drawn out to up the chapter count. So it's clear the work is aiming for Kazuya to eventually address his flaws.....it just has a hard time actually doing so In the anime |
Hrybami said: Short_Circut said: @Hrybami I feel like you're missing my point here Ignoring how extremely subjective """""realistic""""" is in this context, in no way am I expecting Kazuya to become "idealistic" though?? My (and a lot of others) issue simply stems from the lack of growth regarding overcoming his flaws. Even if he eventually does overcome them, that's not all of a sudden gonna make him "idealisitc", he still has lots of other issues present within him, which is completely fine. It doesn't have to be either side of the spectrum, you can still have a character have development yet still has flaws to them There is, yes........except the development needs to actually be there first. Barely anything in the Kazuya present is any different from the Kazuya in the beginning save for maybe a bit of initiative in a few situations (which quickly reverts back though) Except most of the qualities he "develops" were already qualities he had present in the first place? Only, the time wasn't there to show it. And that's the thing about this series, whenever Kazuya has a moment of development and actually speaks his mind, it literally reverts back to status quo just moments later, and the whole process is repeated for however long. That's completely fair, and we don't even know how long the series will run for in total. But, even if after 166 chapters of normal length manga with this level of pacing (if we look at the original), you still can't properly say Kazuya shows signs his experiences are helping him properly mature, then there is a cause for concern That's completely fair too, tbh I'm not even sure from the beginning why Kazuya and Nasa are even being contrasted at all despite being in 2 completely different series' with hardly any similarities lol I think you should look up what character development means. Because you seem to think that it either means growing or overcoming flaws. eh, ok true I got a bit too heated with the progression aspect of CD. Fair play However though, my response to There is more than one way a character can develop you know? In Kazuya case, he keeps his previous faults, but develop other qualities afterwards. is still more or less the same. There aren't really that many 'qualities' he develops that aren't just copy-paste of previous instances |
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Short_Circut said: Hrybami said: I think you should look up what character development means. Because you seem to think that it either means growing or overcoming flaws. eh, ok true I got a bit too heated with the progression aspect of CD. Fair play However though, my response to There is more than one way a character can develop you know? In Kazuya case, he keeps his previous faults, but develop other qualities afterwards. is still more or less the same. There aren't really that many 'qualities' he develops that aren't just copy-paste of previous instancesThe character development is not directly about the character. A character development is for us, viewer, getting to understand more and more a character. It is not about the character unlucking new characteristics, but rather about us discovering multiple facets of a character. Kazuya always had his qualities, we learned about them later in the story. So Kazuya indeed have character developments since that doesn't limit on his flaws and how he can progress. That would be character progression otherwise. If you meant character progression, then I'd agree in 12 episodes, he didn't really progress. |
| Sometime you just like things no matter how bad they are. But this one is really good. Does brilliant animation imply a likable anime? Well MHA has good animation still I don't like it at all. I like both the openings and ending songs of Tonikaku, so maybe it's that. Or probably the story is wholesome. Anyway I like this show, and but I cannot pinpoint the exact reason. Maybe it's the little things that happen that keep me engaged and I come back every week to watch next episode. Sometimes you just like things and there's no logic behind it. |
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| Because it's a show that defines a rom-com. |
| Because Hata Kenjiro you dont get to 500+ chapters of a manga if it lack of coherency And it is cute |
| bruh |
| I passed on this at the start of the season because I didn't like the art style, but recently it just keeps flooding my recommendations on YT. I check MAL and its score is up over 8... wtf? I'll probably pick it up to bridge between the end of fall and winter seasons, but if it's *that* good, I'm sure I'd end up binging it over a day or two. |
| >Ecchi na no wa ikenai to omoimasu!< |
| Because nearly every modern male-targeted anime romance we've gotten for the past decade has involved a boy who is shallow as a puddle so the audience can graft onto them, a girl a who is shallow as a puddle to sell as many waifu figurines as possible, and zero progression between them besides an awkward and unfunny mix of abusive behavior and 50 jokes about accidentally falling into a pair of boobs. Or, on the rare occasion there is actual progression, the girl gets put on the sidelines far from the action so that the hero can continue to have his harem without the audience wondering why she's letting all of these random girls flirt with her boyfriend/husband. Meanwhile, the boy doesn't ever figure it's important to mention that he's taken, because he's so completely clueless to the obvious sexual tension he's building with the other 5 waifu figurines, which allows them to keep bringing in new girls for the audience to crush on and romance vicariously through the hero. Our standards have to be in the gutter at this point. Modern shonen anime romance is a buffet where your options are white bread or literal dung, and this series is the white bread. |
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hainq said: CAN I USE THIS FOR MY FINAL REVIEW? Huge thanks for doing this checklist for reference!This show is, to me personally, a masterpiece, because it checks all criteria that I expect from a great anime: -Wholesome romcom SOL - check -Romance right at the start instead of the end - check -Male MC not a clueless, spineless moron like that failure Kazuya that thinks with its dick instead of brain - check -Male MC is a man of Kazuma-level culture and boldness - check -Female MC not a violent tsundere bitch - check -Female MC smug face - double check -Supporting casts not annoying af - check -Even the most annoying character (the blonde loli) is reasonably non-intrusive - check -No filler characters - everyone seems real instead of feeling like they are being put there just for the sake of the MC alone - check -Great OP & ED - check -Truck-kun unable to isekai MC - check @Samt_ I wholeheartedly agree with all your points there, no questions asked. HOWEVER...@Hrybami @OpticFlash @Short_Circut from all the dialogue of referencing Tonikawa to KanoKari, IMO it feels like 2 extreme ends on the same couch. What's the idea of realistic vs. idealistic, that's to our own personal tastes, and I'd feel that this back-and-forth conversation isn't helping out a lot, even if by drastic means of convincing one another to agree-to-disagree that will end amicably 99% of the time, just that 1% of not getting the message though, and that's A-OK. Feel free to hit me up if you agree-to-disagree. Netbug said: YES, sadly this low-key standard seems to be the bread-and-butter of both the anime and manga industry right now, even if by years past of degrading quality with such low-tier rom-com content.Because nearly every modern male-targeted anime romance we've gotten for the past decade has involved a boy who is shallow as a puddle so the audience can graft onto them, a girl a who is shallow as a puddle to sell as many waifu figurines as possible, and zero progression between them besides an awkward and unfunny mix of abusive behavior and 50 jokes about accidentally falling into a pair of boobs. Or, on the rare occasion there is actual progression, the girl gets put on the sidelines far from the action so that the hero can continue to have his harem without the audience wondering why she's letting all of these random girls flirt with her boyfriend/husband. Meanwhile, the boy doesn't ever figure it's important to mention that he's taken, because he's so completely clueless to the obvious sexual tension he's building with the other 5 waifu figurines, which allows them to keep bringing in new girls for the audience to crush on and romance vicariously through the hero. Our standards have to be in the gutter at this point. Modern shonen anime romance is a buffet where your options are white bread or literal dung, and this series is the white bread. |
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| @KANLen09 My point was that comparing an idealistic character with a realistic character is pointless and shouldn't be an argument in favour of either show. Both characters were written with different perspectives and goals. There aren't one character better than the other because they both fulfill their respective role pretty well. |
Opticflash said: But at the end of the day it is annoying asf following this kind of mc (atleast for me and I know I'm not alone with that) seeing him doing the same dumb decisions over and over again...and before you say bUt ThAt Is PaRt oF hIs ChArAcTeR aNd He DeVeLoPs LaTeR iN ThE mAnGa...idc.Hrybami said: Kazuya is typically like those MC from romcom anime that are specifically written to be flawed to make them more realistic. We had plenty of these MC in the past. It is easy to say that he is pathetic when you have an idealistic and perfect husband MC like Nasa beside him. That doesn't make any of them better than the other since they were both written with different mindset. Imagine if we swap these two MC from their anime to the other. Both anime would tell a completely different story. People simply don't understand the purpose of MCs. They think to themselves "wow MC is pathetic! shit show! 1/10!" while completely oblivious to the fact that MCs are deliberately written a certain way for impact. |
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asapabri said: Opticflash said: But at the end of the day it is annoying asf following this kind of mc (atleast for me and I know I'm not alone with that) seeing him doing the same dumb decisions over and over again...and before you say bUt ThAt Is PaRt oF hIs ChArAcTeR aNd He DeVeLoPs LaTeR iN ThE mAnGa...idc.People simply don't understand the purpose of MCs. They think to themselves "wow MC is pathetic! shit show! 1/10!" while completely oblivious to the fact that MCs are deliberately written a certain way for impact. But it is lol. Some parents think it's annoying af that the characters of GTA games are criminals. |
Opticflash said: this analogy tho...asapabri said: But at the end of the day it is annoying asf following this kind of mc (atleast for me and I know I'm not alone with that) seeing him doing the same dumb decisions over and over again...and before you say bUt ThAt Is PaRt oF hIs ChArAcTeR aNd He DeVeLoPs LaTeR iN ThE mAnGa...idc. But it is lol. Some parents think it's annoying af that the characters of GTA games are criminals. |
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