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Jan 21, 2009 5:41 PM
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Hm... a bit of a slow chapter but finally seeing the death of the other one. What will happen next?
Jan 21, 2009 5:57 PM
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Oh that was just so sad!! I could see it coming but now he is actually gone. ;(
Jan 21, 2009 5:59 PM
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Dum dum dum, so Clone Syaoran gets the happy ending.



Well, I guess that only leaves the possibility of either R!Syaoran or R!SAkura(more possibly) getting the bad ending, as so far:

Ashura got a happy ending.
Clone Sakura got a happy ending.
Clone Syaoran Got a happy ending.
Jan 21, 2009 6:00 PM
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We'll miss you Cloney ;___;

R!SYAORON, KICK FWR'S ASS KTHNX D:
Jan 21, 2009 6:21 PM
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Gaaah. So the Clone is finally going to meet his Sakura. ;__;
This chp was so beautiful & touching. Tbh, I prefer the clone over the real Syaoran. <3


Jan 21, 2009 6:28 PM
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C!Syaoran! aww...
not sure if I read this right, but his name was Fuuka?
And how exactly did he get a happy ending?
but aww... that was... so sad... at least he got his own chapter dedicated to him...
Jan 21, 2009 6:36 PM
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TwilightShiva said:

not sure if I read this right, but his name was Fuuka?

Thats R!Syaoran's wind spell.

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And how exactly did he get a happy ending?

He died + he was happy + he fulfilled some sort of goal he had = he got a traditional "Happy-Ending-by-CLAMP"
C!Sakura got a happy ending too, in similar way ;]
Jan 21, 2009 7:17 PM
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er... gee. that was a shocker *is sarcastic*
Jan 21, 2009 8:17 PM
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Fai said:

TwilightShiva said:

And how exactly did he get a happy ending?

He died + he was happy + he fulfilled some sort of goal he had = he got a traditional "Happy-Ending-by-CLAMP"
C!Sakura got a happy ending too, in similar way ;]

ah , I was going to ask how was that a happy ending too , but..I guess i forgot the "CLAMP" element D: .
gee , I almost don't want to imagine what the bad ending for whoever gets it now , will look like D:

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Jan 22, 2009 2:45 AM

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Lol... I almost forgot that element from CLAMP too xD!

Yeah, it was so sad to see him die this way, but as everyone said. It was a happy ending for him. Really touching this chapter is! Though I see this was coming in his case. But I was surprise he didn't heard C!Sakura's last word >.<!

Now the wonder for us all is... who is going to get the bad ending <.< We still have R!Syaoran, R!Sakura, Mokona, Fai, Kurogane and Yuuko who are left for the bad ending...*sigh*
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I actually thought it was a sad ending for Syaoran-clone, because he didn't get to see Sakura-clone one last time, nor to hear her last words ;( However, at least he got a chance to apologize and help his friends in some way, so maybe he died in peace? I like to think so :)

Anyway, can't wait for the next chapter! This is why I love Clamp: their stories tend to be realy interesting, mysterious, philosophical, sad, and happy at the same time :D

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Fai said:
TwilightShiva said:

And how exactly did he get a happy ending?

He died + he was happy + he fulfilled some sort of goal he had = he got a traditional "Happy-Ending-by-CLAMP"
C!Sakura got a happy ending too, in similar way ;]


Yeah, I don't think that's a happy ending. I don't care if its a "heroic" death or what not, if you die, it cannot be happy. And obviously, he wasn't able to hear "those words at that time." Your sense of "happiness" here is a bit twisted, in my mind. Sure, it was a heroic death and he may have saved Sakura in his own way, but still, by no means happy. I don't care if it is CLAMP or not.

Though I still don't believe Fei Wong is gone. For all the twisted games he played throughout the series, it can't happen that quick.

Either way, this was definitely a great chapter. Short, yes. Almost no speech, sure. But still, a very good chapter.
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good chapter though not alot of progression and the end of Clone Syaoran :/
looking forward to the next chapter
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I knew C!Syaoran has had a a recent change of heart toward things, but I honestly didn't expect him to apologize. It improved my image of him for sure. :P

Now get those feathers to Sakura and let's try to have a real happy ending for the princess and Syaoran! :3
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Yeah, I don't think that's a happy ending. I don't care if its a "heroic" death or what not, if you die, it cannot be happy. And obviously, he wasn't able to hear "those words at that time." Your sense of "happiness" here is a bit twisted, in my mind. Sure, it was a heroic death and he may have saved Sakura in his own way, but still, by no means happy. I don't care if it is CLAMP or not.


Dude, you just don't understand. It is happy ending, it was not "sugar happy" it was "normal happy" or "bittersweet happy", but it in no way was "sad ending" or "bad ending". Not in the CLAMP-verse ;]

And sure those who die can be happy, CLAMP girls stated that themselves, when they


And yes, I do think it was happy, for him. As happy as it can get in situation, without being cliched, sugar-coated or hilariously bad.



vindemon64 said:

Though I still don't believe Fei Wong is gone. For all the twisted games he played throughout the series, it can't happen that quick.

Either way, this was definitely a great chapter. Short, yes. Almost no speech, sure. But still, a very good chapter.


No he is not, obviously, there are still characters alive. FWR will remain alive for at least all of them to try to land a hit on FWR, since they all have reasons to try and to participate in the fight, to fulfill their wishes in that way, so as to be able to get happy ending. The last hit obviously would be long to R!Syaoran, who should survive a bit longer than others, since we still do not know a lot about him.
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Fai said:
No he is not, obviously, there are still characters alive. FWR will remain alive for at least all of them to try to land a hit on FWR, since they all have reasons to try and to participate in the fight, to fulfill their wishes in that way, so as to be able to get happy ending. The last hit obviously would be long to R!Syaoran, who should survive a bit longer than others, since we still do not know a lot about him.
C'mon he tried by any mean kill R!Syao... He pushed further his sword to try out to reach R!Syao, thus provoking a faster death to C!Syao. FWR is obviously alive!
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Yeah, I don't think that's a happy ending. I don't care if its a "heroic" death or what not, if you die, it cannot be happy. And obviously, he wasn't able to hear "those words at that time." Your sense of "happiness" here is a bit twisted, in my mind. Sure, it was a heroic death and he may have saved Sakura in his own way, but still, by no means happy. I don't care if it is CLAMP or not.
It's not our sense of happiness, is CLAMP's sense of hapiness... In fact I don't mind... in the end C!Syao got a happy ending 'cause, just like Fai said, got to do what he wanted to do and he will finally know what his Sakura wanted to say him... Twisted yeah, but he's gonna get a happy afterlife for sure

Woeeee for this chappie... I'm sure everyone will cooperate for a better ending between each other... I dunno how will FWR end but I feel that he might get his happy ending... While probably R!Syao will not have his happy ending... he's the one that will suffer.. just a hunch but he will suffer for sure...

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Jan 22, 2009 4:28 PM

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Woeeee for this chappie... I'm sure everyone will cooperate for a better ending between each other... I dunno how will FWR end but I feel that he might get his happy ending... While probably R!Syao will not have his happy ending... he's the one that will suffer.. just a hunch but he will suffer for sure...


Fai and Kuro die a typical clamp double death. Happy ending.

FWR most likely is revealed to have some sort of good or sad intentions and dies with happy ending.

Yuuko most likely acts against her own laws and dies, but happy ending since she did something for good.

Either Syaoran dies while killing FWR and Sakura survives, or Syaoran survives the whole FWR, but Sakura dies.


Well thats unless CLAMP pulls RG Veda and
Jan 22, 2009 5:12 PM

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Noo! Don't die, Clone Syaoran. We all love you!
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Well thats unless CLAMP pulls RG Veda and

I want this ;D


Jan 23, 2009 12:01 PM

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waa... now CShaoran is death... What will happen next.

Wating for chapter 211.
Jan 23, 2009 11:23 PM
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*tear*

I wonder if Fai will get his fluorite back now.
Jan 24, 2009 12:27 PM

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Ah, stunning art again in this chapter.
I want next chapter already *w*
Jan 25, 2009 7:04 PM

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Why does everyone think their's going to be someone with a bad ending? Why would Real Syaoran and Real Sakura not end up together in the end?
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Why does everyone think their's going to be someone with a bad ending? Why would Real Syaoran and Real Sakura not end up together in the end?
Now that you mention it, and now that I remember the ending... I mean the first scene of the manga/anime... Couldn't be the beginning of the manga the ending of it, so then R!Syao and R!Sakura get the CLAMP's trademark happy ending?

Why we say it...? well we say it 'cause it's CLAMP's more usual way to end their stories... plus the series are pretty much dark and have a similar feel like other CLAMP's dark stories like X or RG Veda...

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Why does everyone think their's going to be someone with a bad ending? Why would Real Syaoran and Real Sakura not end up together in the end?


One word: CLAMP. If you want happy endings, don't ever read manga by CLAMP...
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Clover?

RG Veda?

X? In anime we have

Manga of course

Tokyo Babylon?

Wish?

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Even CCS starting as simple "magical girl" story
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Yes CCS!Syaoran and CCS!Sakura did end up together, but oh well, CLAMP brought them into stories of holic and trc, just to, most likely, kill them off.


Not many CLAMP works get the very true, real, non-twisted happy ending. "Syaoran" and "Sakura" got together once, I doubt that they would end it on the same happy note yet again.

Not to mention CLAMP girls stating that TRC ending will be happy for everyone, except for one character. And before they also sad that Tokyo Babylon had a happy ending...and RG Veda...and Wish...
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Fai said:
FlamingDogs said:
Why does everyone think their's going to be someone with a bad ending? Why would Real Syaoran and Real Sakura not end up together in the end?


One word: CLAMP. If you want happy endings, don't ever read manga by CLAMP...
--------
Clover?

RG Veda?

X? In anime we have

Manga of course

Tokyo Babylon?

Wish?

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Even CCS starting as simple "magical girl" story
.

Yes CCS!Syaoran and CCS!Sakura did end up together, but oh well, CLAMP brought them into stories of holic and trc, just to, most likely, kill them off.


Not many CLAMP works get the very true, real, non-twisted happy ending. "Syaoran" and "Sakura" got together once, I doubt that they would end it on the same happy note yet again.

Not to mention CLAMP girls stating that TRC ending will be happy for everyone, except for one character. And before they also sad that Tokyo Babylon had a happy ending...and RG Veda...and Wish...


Well at least their realistic, not everything has a happy ending...
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FlamingDogs said:
Why does everyone think their's going to be someone with a bad ending? Why would Real Syaoran and Real Sakura not end up together in the end?


Haha, don't worry man, I'm totally on your side. Like I said before, I don't care of CLAMP's past history or what not (granted, I haven't really read their other work and the only anime I'm familiar with are Chobits and Card Captor Sakura).

And who knows...maybe CLAMP will pull a 180, since everyone thinks it'll be tragic, they'll go in the opposite direction.

I mean, Sakura and Syaoran are the ideal couple. You can tell they belong together and really, after all the shit they have gone through in this story, they should rightfully be so. Just because most of their other stories are tragic doesn't mean they will end up killing each other off or whatever. Well, whatever. I guess I just get tired of people stating that a tragic ending is "fact" when in reality, it hasn't even finished yet, so anything could happen. I guess that just shows how much I love the characters I suppose.
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vindemon64 said:
FlamingDogs said:
Why does everyone think their's going to be someone with a bad ending? Why would Real Syaoran and Real Sakura not end up together in the end?


Haha, don't worry man, I'm totally on your side. Like I said before, I don't care of CLAMP's past history or what not (granted, I haven't really read their other work and the only anime I'm familiar with are Chobits and Card Captor Sakura).

And who knows...maybe CLAMP will pull a 180, since everyone thinks it'll be tragic, they'll go in the opposite direction.

I mean, Sakura and Syaoran are the ideal couple. You can tell they belong together and really, after all the shit they have gone through in this story, they should rightfully be so. Just because most of their other stories are tragic doesn't mean they will end up killing each other off or whatever. Well, whatever. I guess I just get tired of people stating that a tragic ending is "fact" when in reality, it hasn't even finished yet, so anything could happen. I guess that just shows how much I love the characters I suppose.


Or they could pull a 360, though I definitely hope not. TRC is definitely different than Clamp's other works, actually a lot different. But yeah, I do want Syaoran and Sakura to end up at the end. They've gone through a lot and should deserve a happy ending.
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I had a premonition... The beginning of the manga/anime will be the ending... How's that for you... My instincts are pretty much right when they tell me that something will happen... And that something 'bout this manga is the beginning... At least it has to mean something ne?
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Even CCS starting as simple "magical girl" story
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Yes CCS!Syaoran and CCS!Sakura did end up together, but oh well, CLAMP brought them into stories of holic and trc, just to, most likely, kill them off.


Not many CLAMP works get the very true, real, non-twisted happy ending. "Syaoran" and "Sakura" got together once, I doubt that they would end it on the same happy note yet again.

Not to mention CLAMP girls stating that TRC ending will be happy for everyone, except for one character. And before they also sad that Tokyo Babylon had a happy ending...and RG Veda...and Wish...
So true... that's a fact... never seen with that focus but it's true the last arc is pretty much that...

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Fai said:

Yes CCS!Syaoran and CCS!Sakura did end up together, but oh well, CLAMP brought them into stories of holic and trc, just to, most likely, kill them off.


This made me LOL. It's sad, but most likely true =l
I loved this chapter, btw! ;__;


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I felt it wasn't as effective as it could have been because till the end Clone syaoran showed no emotion whatsoever =/ but oh well
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touching chapter ... =]


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sad chapter. but now syaoran will get a chance to hear what the other sakura was trying to say to her in the afterlife
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Cannon fodder till the end
Even when I was in crowd, I was always alone
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So sad... fake original Syaoran ...RIP.. he was the first character introduced to us
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It's weird seeing what was essentially the original main character die, even if he was brain washed it was still the same guy we followed for almost half the series.
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RIP Clone Sayoran. You will always be the main character in my eyes.

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