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| THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE. ---------------------------------------- It's pretty interesting to see a rift opening after the big fight. It's noticable that Enterprise went missing. Pretty much the continuation after the fight between sides this episode. Idk why but I got this eerie feeling about the episode with both sides regrouping their forces. |
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| The girls found their way into a frozen hell. And it seems the girls from the Sakura Empire are starting to doubt Akagi and her her sister, much to the displeasure of her sister. Kaga has some things to learn is seems. Anyway the final moment with Ayanami was really nice she looked pretty brutal. And Akatsuki made an appearance which was also nice she is always fun to watch. |
| Animation was really good in this episode, kinda liked the ice environment too, but for the story it was still boring... |
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| Akagi is alive. Good thing Laffey and Javelin saved Ayanami. |
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| The art was extra-wonky in this episode. |
HisokaxMeruem said: Ashhk said: lmao, so you didnt even watch itAnimation was really good in this episode, kinda liked the ice environment too, but for the story it was still boring... Why ? I watched it. |
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| Animation seems to be on or off or something. There are scenes that look good, but some aren't. But despite that it's a good episode. The fight scenes are good. Enty with her glowing yellow eyes while standing atop of the ice glacier looks intimidating. I hope Shoukaku, Zuizui, and Ayanami gets captured. Hoping the rest of the Sakura Empire realized they're being just lied upon and use as experiments by those sirens. |
MagitoNov 29, 2019 12:05 AM
| a whole sakuga episode eh but a lot of the still frames are rough damn they do not have enough animation directors especially chief animation director (the character designer/s) Enterprise internal conflict made an alter ego for the fight and flight or destroy vs protect mindset i guess |
HisokaxMeruem said: Their faces are weird like this since the beginning i'm used now I guess, and I watched the episode in 1080p for the first time, the environment looked way prettier than usualy, especially with that ice.have you seen their faces? they literally fked up all faces this episode |
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Ashhk said: Animation was really good in this episode finally someone who knows what good animation (sakuga) is there are lots of character acting animation especially face animation in this episode so obviously some in-between frames will look rough but ye some still frames are rough too and thats my only complain |
| Animation is a bit on and off at times. Some parts were good like movement and fights but some other parts will have still frames like what SHAFT does. Eyeless faces return and are more frequent but whoever watched the first episode should not be surprised by it now. I really don't like the starter ships' story in this though. I prefer to see more of the fight between Azur Lane and Sakura Empire or clashing with the Sirens. I like seeing Enterprise in her illusion but seeing her at the end was kind of forced. The good parts were learning more about the Siren's goal, Sakura Empire's fleet and how Kaga was suffering. The fight with the Crane Sisters wasn't bad but I wanted to see more of it. Learning a bit more about Enterprise was a good thing too. Although it seems like we're getting small bits of info each episode. This episode seems to be building up for the next fight with the Sirens or Project Orochi as they like to call it. Poor Akagi... Overall, good episode but I like Episode 7 even more. |
Edo_Light_16Nov 28, 2019 10:11 AM
| Am I the only one confused on how we got into the ice environment? |
| It's not the Slates that is essential to people. What we need is... Well... A small table to share a meal... That's more than enough. That's my conclusion. The answer I've reached as the Silver King. |
| My foxy waifus aren't dead and Amagi actually got a face this time nice! |
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| The fight is good, the story is acceptable, but this episode have inconsistent animations. Also where are Iron Blood ships ? Where is Z23 when Laffey, Ayanami and Javelin in one frame ? Hope they explain these properly later. |
Nekko_Khayal88Nov 28, 2019 10:34 AM
| action scenes looked ok, the rest was bad, the final like 6 minutes was good animations im confused how they even got to the battle, in ep 6 everyone was at the hot springs, ep 7 was a recap and then 8 was a giant battle, it makes no sense Why isn't Nimi (Z23) getting more screentime, she's a Starter Ship as well |
HisokaxMeruem said: Not just weird, they fked up a lot of faces in this episode, here are some: https://gyazo.com/adca4157d606502be141f94ae6d98113 https://gyazo.com/d047b15452e6014a14e611c47f895438 the white haired girl is if i remember right one of the rough still frames im complaining about but the Zuikaku drawing is a in-between frame and not even a still frame from what i remember HisokaxMeruem said: https://gyazo.com/c3659bc57ad433addac99d834dc8f2ab https://gyazo.com/878da9321072f8ad262e64658546b2c7 one eye moves and the other doesnt https://gyazo.com/aa97f43e979734dce26d25d229b86b81 and not to forget all these weird close ups this episode i do not understand how this last 3 drawings are bad lol |
HisokaxMeruem said: Yeah I agree for the faces but it bother me since episode 1 to be honest, It must be worse in this episode though.Ashhk said: Their faces are weird like this since the beginning i'm used now I guess, and I watched the episode in 1080p for the first time, the environment looked way prettier than usualy, especially with that ice. Not just weird, they fked up a lot of faces in this episode, here are some: https://gyazo.com/adca4157d606502be141f94ae6d98113 https://gyazo.com/d047b15452e6014a14e611c47f895438 https://gyazo.com/c3659bc57ad433addac99d834dc8f2ab https://gyazo.com/878da9321072f8ad262e64658546b2c7 one eye moves and the other doesnt https://gyazo.com/aa97f43e979734dce26d25d229b86b81 and not to forget all these weird close ups this episode I didnt notice that stuff happening until this episode, it got worse than before, still like the anime a lot |
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| Good episode, the ice environment was beautiful. I also never got shocked by their faces but it looks like a lot got bothered by this. |
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| Good episode! Belfast's advices are always great! Seems other Sakura Empire girls are doubting about Akagi and Kaga's plans, and Shoukaku honesty about that was so awesome, i love Shoukaku! We saw sirens ships, and seems Akagi is still alive! Enterprise is back to normal thanks to ayanami, and the save on Ayanami by Laffey and Javelin was really cool! Seems they are close of regrouping sides and stop that war! |
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| I really don't understand the complaints about art or animation quality in this series. It's fine to me, maybe I'm just not that critical of shit like that, idk, but at the end of the day, cute girls doing cute shit and literal waifu wars is a 10/10 for me. My only complaint is sometimes the plot feels a bit confusing or like some chapters are missing. Dunno if I'm alone, but I def teared up in this ep several times, really emotional. Great episode. Hopefully we get some answers as to what was controlling Enterprise and the origin of the sirens in the next few eps/another season. Wish this series wasn't so underrated. Happy Turkey day everyone. |
Marinate1016Nov 28, 2019 12:34 PM
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| Enterprise falls victim to exploitation by seirens... definitely NOT mary sue lol. (just not well written) I hope Laffey and Javelin get through to Ayanami and the rest, as sometimes all it takes is small good deeds and connections to end an entire conflict. Looking forward to where it goes next. The cinematography is really janky this episode and the animation is off more than usual, must have been time crunched or maybe an amateur director for this ep. It's not really about being critical or not, it's the fact that it looks really amateurish and clumsy due to lack of consistency. @Superns18 For instance: The snow looked alright but some people have overstated it's cost and value, it's 4 layers of easily made effect. The ice used stock macrotexture, and the sky shatters used stock overlays Strange framing Off-model characters, bad lipsync Lots of unanimated sill-frame shots for filler Notable effects missing their sounds ...and plenty more The blu-rays might fix this stuff, but as it is now it looks like what i've seen in a lot of incomplete anime episodes. I'm not particularly meticulous about animation nor care all that much, these are just things i noticed in passing as i was watching (i'm a naturally observant person), i don't fret too much about it, but i'm not gonna lie and say it was great animation when it wasn't. The clumsiness and inconsistency of it makes is harder for the layman to appreciate it with artistic merit when there are lots of small things things that may bother their subconscious. The general writing of the anime has not been taking advantage of it's initial setup either, as up the prior episode there was a huge skip into action without any buildup, which is very amateurish. |
GenesisAriaNov 28, 2019 1:11 PM
❀桜舞う空〜 Cute is Power. 🔗CosmoGenesis Project “Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence.” “A truth seeker has no patience for BS.” I seek only to improve myself and others. |
| Great episode again. I understand the complaints about the production being very inconsistent, it is noticeable but it doesn't make the episode bad in any way and I still really enjoyed it. In fact the changes in the art style actually make for some interesting sequences. Shoukaku casting doubt on Akagi and Kaga. :( As much as I love Shoukaku, I love Akagi and Kaga too, I don't want to see any infighting in the Sakura Empire. :( Yukikaze and Yuudachi needed more screentime. Action scenes were great, especially Shoukaku and Zuikaku just zipping around in the water. I kinda wish we get at least one scene of Shoukaku playing her flute. Of course the highlight of the scene was Ayanami just flying through the air and ripping apart Enterprise's Dive Bomber, that was awesome. Laffey and Javelin saving her was great too. Best started Z23 still nowhere to be found. :( Very interested to see how this situation will be resolved. nerfx said: My foxy waifus aren't dead and Amagi actually got a face this time nice! Thank god for that, fox family, best family! |
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| Okay, this is just dumb. Was everyone just pretend fighting until now? Why is everyone on the allies side suddenly horrified that Enterprise is actually trying to kill the enemy? Did she bring live rounds to an airsoft fight or something? And now they are trying to save the enemy. I get what they are trying to do with this story--that we are all humans and that there is no reason in senselessly killing each other, especially when they share a common enemy--but they are just doing it in the dumbest way possible. |
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| Visuals were pretty hit or miss this episode. I liked the action scenes, even if detail were dropped but when they weren't action scenes, you just had derpy and choppy character models. The scene where Souryuu was saying they should retreat, her mouth flap didn't even match her talking and even kept going when she wasn't. However, it seems they reduced the use of derpy designs by having an abundant amount of close up shots, like seriously there was a pretty hefty amount of them. |
| Not sure what to think of the animation and art. Like the animation at some parts was pretty nice to look at, but the rest seemed way too off. Especially the close up on their faces... So glad to see that Laffey and Javelin managed to save Ayanami. I really want to know what's going on with Enterprise. Some shots made me believe she was in a hallucination of their war with the Sirens again. |
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| First off the bat, is it just me or were most of the animation a little lazy? I could tell cause' the sometimes the hair movement was just staying in place, and the environment was not blended well with the characters. But I still love it storywise and the game plus ship waifus! Also, where's the Iron Blood?! |
| inconsistent is the easily way to put the art and animation and it's been this way from the start stills shots and some smaller in between's are rough but this episode had some good shots here and there like Ayanami flapping in the air when Laffey tried to grab her. feels like there's a lot of corner cutting in the production of it's like you're playing russian roulette with the quality each scene lol. |
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| I thought Ayanami was a gonna there, thank goodness for Laffey and Javelin! I guess it's one of those series where nobody dies, at the end we all sing "kumbaya". |
How I learned to stop worrying and love the bomb --- Dr Strangelove  |
| How the heck did the ice appear? And yes, some parts had good and kind of fluid animation while others where .. weird AF, the first minute pre-OP was bad.. xD but the motionless hair was all over the episode and was really bad. |
tottojaNov 29, 2019 1:45 AM
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| Damn. People, who do not understand anything about animation, have the same complaints as about that Apocrypha ep (22 or 23, do not remember). A bunch of top animators worked on this ep. It is normal that for the sake of fluid animation frames should be4 made deformed. You watch it in motion, go dammit, not pause every frame to see if the design is solid enough! |
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Nachtwandler_21 said: Damn. People, who do not understand anything about animation, have the same complaints as about that Apocrypha ep (22 or 23, do not remember). A bunch of top animators worked on this ep. It is normal that for the sake of fluid animation frames should be4 made deformed. You watch it in motion, go dammit, not pause every frame to see if the design is solid enough! These are the same people that think Pain vs Naruto is a badly animated fight. Anyway, Hironori Tanaka being AD this episode was a blessing. Anime production works in such mysterious ways, some episodes will look like shit but then as soon as someone reputable gets assigned as AD for an episode it will look outstanding due to his connections in the industry. Anyway, as many before me have stated the story is still mind numbingly boring. |
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| After the wonders that is the sakuga animation last episode, are we back to production hell? For the sake of nitpicking thou shall not follow the trend. With that said, following the events of last episode, where Enterprise destructed out of oblivion, and the Sirens' activities made variant by Akagi, causing not only the space-time rift, but everyone in shattering disarray. This is highly suspect of the events in coherence, but (plot) relations-wise, still no answer. Welp, with how the situation is now, the trust to Akagi's Sakura Empire may as well be corrupted at this point (towards Project Orochi). The fight to the death for those remaining, with Enterprise's awakening and all, hell as I know the plot now, but one thing I know, it's gonna get more insane with the developments now that the war that both Azur Lane and Sakura Empire are fighting aren't the same war anymore. |
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| oh, it's tentacle seiren that found Akagi. Well, Akagi sempai if a tentacle monster find you while you're unconscious... gonna wait for the doujins on this! hehe /just kidding :D Shoukaku too intelligent to be fooled. She knows something is wrong with Akagi and Kaga using seiren tech. Enterprise summons a large sqaudron of SBD Dauntless dive bombers, then bomb the hell out of Zuikaku and Shoukaku... disabling both carriers. While Ayanami also hurt bad by slicing a dive bomber and the plane exploding beside her. Whoa.. Enterprise with yellow eyes is brutal, she's really gonna kill them. So now Zuikaku, Shoukaku, and Ayanami are prisoners of war for Azur Lane? looking forward to next week!! :) |
| The inconsistency of the animation and art quality had returned again, with some good close-up shots of Enterprise's face as well as the rather nicely animated snow conditions. For the other scenes, however, some characters were too off-model both close-up and in the distance and some animated movements felt a bit odd, although that could be down to the style of animation used for this episode in particular. After last week's episode having some great animation, this episode's production felt a bit disappointing. I was a little confused about the location that everyone was in, but that must've been the result of Enterprise's crazy attack from last week. No wonder everyone on both sides were in such disarray. Ayanami got herself into trouble after making such a ballsy move, but good job to Laffey and Javelin, who worked together to save Ayanami from falling into the open abyss below. Aside from some nitpicks, this was still a good episode. =) |
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