A Certain Magical Index (light novel)
| Don't get me wrong, I've watched all the Toaru Majutsu episodes including the Railgun and the movies but, what the hell is happening? Sure I forgot some key characters and events but still, I have no idea what is this, who is this, why is that, etc. I'm already at episode 6 and still confused as fuck. Is the anime adaptation story rushed too much compare to the novel? I don't get a single thing on whats happening, lol. |
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| Yep the anime is rushed as fuck due to the fact J.C Staff trying to adapts 9 volumes into 26 episodes. Basically, if you never read the LN or at least read some spoilers in wiki, you will have exactly no idea what's the anime is telling about. Huntik said: I have a feeling that Railgun season 3 or even Accelerator anime must've been watched first. Or maybe a few episodes of them. From what I known about it, Accelerator anime is irreverent to Index III, thought. |
MahiaErebeaNegiNov 15, 2018 4:20 AM
| This is what happens when even the previous season cuts out a lot of content, it all comes crushing down. |
| "You had no free will, you chased your vices along the same path as all of the others." - Shikieiki Yamaxanadu, Diamond in the rough |
Huntik said: I don't know if it's rushed or no, but i do know a thing that Toaru is a really difficult serie to understand, unless you watch in the perfect order. I have a feeling that Railgun season 3 or even Accelerator anime must've been watched first. Or maybe a few episodes of them. Imma wait until all seasons finish aired. Accel anime and railgun 3 will have nothing to do with index III story |
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Huntik said: I don't know if it's rushed or no, but i do know a thing that Toaru is a really difficult serie to understand, unless you watch in the perfect order. I have a feeling that Railgun season 3 or even Accelerator anime must've been watched first. Or maybe a few episodes of them. Imma wait until all seasons finish aired. I agree to this. My head hurts what the F is happening. I wonder what the novel reader have to say about this. Excellent recommendation man. thicc thighs saves life. |
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omoi11 said: akane and rikka is enough for me to give 10/10 score. i read the novel and tbh im happy with index adaptation. Wtf how can you be happy with this shitty adaptation , i think you're the first LN reader i see who's happy and not disappointed |
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Tsukumo_Yuuma said: Hey man, I am not happy but I am not disappointed either.omoi11 said: akane and rikka is enough for me to give 10/10 score. i read the novel and tbh im happy with index adaptation. Wtf how can you be happy with this shitty adaptation , i think you're the first LN reader i see who's happy and not disappointed Huntik said: They have nothing to do with the current Index anime arcs. And Index never relies on them for explanations either.I have a feeling that Railgun season 3 or even Accelerator anime must've been watched first. Or maybe a few episodes of them. |
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| Not really, lots a anime only people from the german community, had issues with the third season so far, a majority does not even understand what’s going on, and that’s the general consensus of the anime only people, from what i gathered browsing through various forums. (Ln reader myself) |
| "Even villains have standards" -Accelerator-  |
| I don’t have a clue on what’s going on either. I watched all of Index and Railgun episodes this Summer, around mid-July, so my mind is still supposed to be fresh but this whole accelerated course of events is really just too quick to keep up with. I understand the main bits but that’s about it, really. It’s really hard to get captivated by the complex storyline of this show, it just feels like a big mess! |
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NsL791 said: Tsukumo_Yuuma said: Wtf how can you be happy with this shitty adaptation , i think you're the first LN reader i see who's happy and not disappointed Maybe bcuz he's the few of fans that really happy the series atleast got adapted. Like myself i want to be happy about it but i can't :"( it's just bad adaptation , index ln deserve better than this |
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Tsukumo_Yuuma said: NsL791 said: Maybe bcuz he's the few of fans that really happy the series atleast got adapted. Like myself i want to be happy about it but i can't :"( it's just bad adaptation , index ln deserve better than this Its rushed and does not let any event sinks in unlike the novel. But at this point, personally, I just want OG Index to be done with so the anime can move on the storyline to NT which have better, more modern arcs and animate them instead. While the story is ok, it just does not suit current Anime plot trends. I'm pretty sure most of Index fans also just want to watch WW3 animated that's all and don't really bother with the rest (thankfully they don't skip Britain's arc which imo is the best one). Like, it took almost 10 years to get another series adaptation green-lit. Even NT has already move forward ALOT from Othinus's arc and who knows how much longer it will take if they don't finish WW3 now and animate NT next, not to mention how long it will take to animate NT sincerely there is another Railgun, and Accelerator anime on the pipeline, both will take another whole year since it totals to 48 episodes. |
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| Honestly I don't care about anyone except Accelerator index iii is just too confusing for me as an anime only watcher but i think ill just go with the flow looking forward to the accelerator anime :) |
Somecallme_kj said: It's not impossible to make out some things from the mess we got but 100% of the time? I have doubts about that.Am I the only person who gets what’s happening 100% of the time. Maybe it’s because I watched everything before starting season 3 or something but to me even though I have not read all of the light novels gets what’s going on. |
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Somecallme_kj said: Am I the only person who gets what’s happening 100% of the time. Maybe it’s because I watched everything before starting season 3 or something but to me even though I have not read all of the light novels gets what’s going on. Okay then, can you please help me explain me this: |
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XeNoX101 said: LN reader here, I can answer these: 1. Tsuchimikado shot her because she disclosed classified info and she wanted to be punished before AC could retaliate. If she tried to flee, her family would be targeted instead. 2. Ep 4 takes place 2 days after ep 1-3. Tsuchimikado didn't kill the lady. The anime forgot to include the line where he said that he purposely missed her vitals and called an ambulance for her. 3. Okay, I'll admit that this season has been a rushed mess, but you really should know why Accel and Tsuchimikado are working together. Go rewatch the last 2 eps of season 2. Meltdowner's team works for AC. Their role isn't really explained in the anime, but basically they're similar to Accel's group and do tasks for the board of directors of AC. They are also in charge of making sure the board of directors doesn't do anything that oversteps their authority. Dark Matter's group has a similar role. Except they decided to rebel on that day since AC had already sent most of their powered suits to Avignon, so the level of security in AC was lower than usual. Dark Matter wanted to gain an audience with Aleister. He hated being the "spare" to Accel and wanted to become the main plan so that he could eventually take control of AC. Meltdowner's group was tasked with stopping him. 4. Touma wasn't involved, because this is a conflict involving several dark factions from the criminal underground of AC. Most people aren't even aware that this side of AC even exists. And Touma was still in Avignon too (not sure why he didn't just come back with Tsuchimikado though). 5. Even though Accel's power was nerfed when he got shot in the head, his power his still far beyond the other level 5s. There's a reason he's ranked #1 and why he alone is the closest one to reaching level 6. In other words, Dark Matter thought he was hot shit, but Accel was never taking him seriously during their fight. 6. Acqua is a member of God's Right Seat. A secret organization of the Roman Catholic Church. He appeared at the end of season 2 as well. The anime actually explains who he is quite well, so once again, it's not the anime's fault that you don't understand this one. I can see why anime-onlys would be confused by eps 4-6 of season 3, but episodes 1-3 (except for the old lady getting shot part) and 7-8 are pretty straightforward and explain things decently. And yeah, this season is definitely rushed since it’s trying to cram 9 volumes in 26 episodes. As a result, lots of exposition and details are being cut out. Index is a great series, but sadly the anime doesn’t do a great job of representing it. Just read the LNs if you want the best experience. My advice to you for this season would be to pay very close attention to the dialogue since the pacing is so quick right now. Thank you, @XeNox101. I admit I forgot some of the key details because its been ages since I've watched the latest To Aru. It would have been helpful if JC staff created a recap 2-3 movies first before doing this Index III (though I'm grateful). Thank you. |
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XeNoX101 said: Taifood said: I had a lot of the same questions as the ones explained here and many of them were answered by a simple rewatch of Index II. I started it about a week ago since I figured I might start understanding shit better if I did. But the problem here is that I never had to do that before with any other show in a similar boat. Even though Index II came out a long time ago, most of the time series will adequately recap you on what the hell is going on. Since the pacing is at light speed, no recapping was done and nobody has any idea what's going on. At first I was amazed at how low Index III's score is but after 9 eps in I get it. It's hard to get invested in the situation. Yeah, this season is catered towards LN readers. It's a shame too since this season is covering some of the best arcs in the series, but the lack of episodes is really hurting the pacing and lots of details, exposition, character development, etc. is getting cut out. Also the director for the anime doesn't exactly have the best track record and has made several questionable decisions which has resulted in some rather lackluster execution of important moments. This season really needed at least 30 episodes, not 26. 30? 48 eps is the minimum! remove 1 and you going to have pacing problems, if you want to animate the second major arc of "God's Right Seat", you need at least 48 episodes, even some additional ones to highlight some key details. |
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XeNoX101 said: Νο ιt isnt.Taifood said: I had a lot of the same questions as the ones explained here and many of them were answered by a simple rewatch of Index II. I started it about a week ago since I figured I might start understanding shit better if I did. But the problem here is that I never had to do that before with any other show in a similar boat. Even though Index II came out a long time ago, most of the time series will adequately recap you on what the hell is going on. Since the pacing is at light speed, no recapping was done and nobody has any idea what's going on. At first I was amazed at how low Index III's score is but after 9 eps in I get it. It's hard to get invested in the situation. Yeah, this season is catered towards LN readers. . If you aim for that then you better adapt certain scenes properly.S3 fails even at that. |
| I'm coming late to the party, but I agree with things said in this thread. Yes, maybe most of the questions would be answered by rewatching the series, but most anime-only people (including myself) don't have that much time to rewatch 45+ episodes to be able to follow third season. Even seasons with shorter breaks tend to have at least a recap flashback/ sentence during the episodes, so audience have their memory refreshed and they can follow the story comfortably, so it's a given after 8 year break. But with only 26 episodes, not only the actual story is rushed, but unless you watched the whole anime right before season 3 started or you have the most perfect memory, those little details can pretty much ruin an entire arc. I feel like I should have just dropped this season, but I keep hoping for some of the arcs that are supposed to be adapted to be interesting to me, and at least semi-understandable. |
| I get confused by this series as well. Sometimes I think it was written by the Ku Klux Klan with all the anticatholism. |
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Username23489023 said: I get confused by this series as well. [b]Sometimes I think it was written by the Ku Klux Klan with all the anticatholism.[/b] Your a funny dude I spit my biscuit in my mouth |
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| It's been rushed to hell for only one reason. They want to adapt NT. However they can't do that until they get the rest of The original series out as there are many events and characters from it that are in the NT storyline. also those thinking that you need to watch Accel and Railgun, don't think that. Both series are set before index iii. Waay before index iii. Accel is set directly after the Last order arc and the next Railgun arc is set during the sport fest. even the recent Prison Break-In arc is set before Index III. However both series give a much deeper background to many side characters and villains from this series. |
komicDec 26, 2018 8:34 AM
KiLLZONE15JYU said: komic said: Well do you think it should have a reboot from another studio?It's been rushed to hell for only one reason. They want to adapt NT. However they can't do that until they get the rest of The original series out as there are many events and characters from it that are in the NT storyline. also those thinking that you need to watch Accel and Railgun, don't think that. Both series are set before index iii. Waay before index iii. Accel is set directly after the Last order arc and the next Railgun arc is set during the sport fest. even the recent Prison Break-In arc is set before Index III. However both series give a much deeper background to many side characters and villains from this series. what? no. There is no need for that. This isn't FMA that they didn't adapt probably. This is a novel series that is just rushed but still sticks to the story of the original novels. |
| if not for Tokyo Ghoul I would call this the worst adaption of the year. And I still wonder who thought JC could handle OPM 2, but I am happy to get surprised by them But adaptions like this are what makes me hate the industry sometimes. |
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