A Certain Magical Index (light novel)
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| I swear, everytime from now one, seeing Frenda in the opening is gonna hurt... Itsuwa is back! What a comback it is lol. Poor Misaka, having to see Touma being comfortable in those cushions sure hit a sore spot XD If only she had seen the situation at Touma's house! Jealousy would kill her. Seems Touma's amnesia is really bugging her a lot. About time that Touma put Index to work!! She's so useless at times. Jeez the things in Academy City keeps amazing me, 10 levels underground and the 3rd level looks like a different city. Trouble has returned as Acqua has made his move. |
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| Am I watching Strike the blood? Lol seriously Itsuwa and Kamijo are Yukina and Kojou but without the "this is our fight" abomination, that's the only thing missing to them, if they said it I'd lose my shit and give this 10/10 |
| The pacing is good? lol lol lol It's an episode 90% about nothing... If they had made cuts on the useless shit that happened until Aqua appeared and added those cuts to the BRoyal arc it wouldn't have suck like it did. This was really bad animated, I know Acqua is fast but not drawing him at all instead of disappearing is lazy. And Touma suddenly flying without showing him being hit is just awful. Misaka power just ain't the same anymore like it used too...  |
Tiau said: Snaita said: The pacing is good? lol lol lol It's an episode 90% about nothing... If they had made cuts on the useless shit that happened until Aqua appeared and added those cuts to the BRoyal arc it wouldn't have suck like it did. This was really bad animated, I know Acqua is fast but not drawing him at all instead of disappearing is lazy. And Touma suddenly flying without showing him being hit is just awful. Misaka power just ain't the same anymore like it used too... Acqua is supposed to appear as if he's disappearing in the novel. And yes, an adaptation keeping in the actual contents of the novel and setting the mood is good pacing, it's suppose to have a tone shift for a reason. Almost 16 minutes about, Itsuwa meeting Touma, making dinner to Touma while Index does nothing and taking Touma and Index to the bath is not good pacing, it's clearly stretching... I agree tone shifting is nice but too much is not good. |
| Man the awful animation is really jerking me out of the story, what little there is of it. It's really hard to get immersed when everyone looks like unidentifiable blobs. |
Tiau said: Snaita said: Almost 16 minutes about, Itsuwa meeting Touma, making dinner to Touma while Index does nothing and taking Touma and Index to the bath is not good pacing, it's clearly stretching... I agree tone shifting is nice but too much is not good. Except it is good pacing and those are all things that happened in the novel, the term “the calm before the storm” exists for a reason. This arc is one of them and that’s why it needed it, bad pacing would be if we effectively skipped the entire first half of the book and suddenly fought Acqua with no rhyme or reason as suggested I can't be more explicit, I'm not telling the scenes should have been skipped, I'm saying they should have made them shorter and not dragging and boring. The pace would be good and with the time they saved they could make BRoyal or Acqua confronting Touma better. |
Snaita said: Tiau said: Except it is good pacing and those are all things that happened in the novel, the term “the calm before the storm” exists for a reason. This arc is one of them and that’s why it needed it, bad pacing would be if we effectively skipped the entire first half of the book and suddenly fought Acqua with no rhyme or reason as suggested I can't be more explicit, I'm not telling the scenes should have been skipped, I'm saying they should have made them shorter and not dragging and boring. The pace would be good and with the time they saved they could make BRoyal or Acqua confronting Touma better. Nishikori cutting the only canon bath scene!? UNTHINKABLE, what would he do without animating a bath scene every few episodes, he would melt from such high pressure, its completely impossible. How dare you suggest something that is equivalent of asking a man to kill himself, rude! |
| "You had no free will, you chased your vices along the same path as all of the others." - Shikieiki Yamaxanadu, Diamond in the rough |
ap1001 said: Snaita said: I can't be more explicit, I'm not telling the scenes should have been skipped, I'm saying they should have made them shorter and not dragging and boring. The pace would be good and with the time they saved they could make BRoyal or Acqua confronting Touma better. Nishikori cutting the only canon bath scene!? UNTHINKABLE, what would he do without animating a bath scene every few episodes, he would melt from such high pressure, its completely impossible. How dare you suggest something that is equivalent of asking a man to kill himself, rude! Ah ah ah ah, you are right. But I have no problem with the bath scene, it wasn't that big I liked it. |
| That was easily one of the best episode this season so far. Well, Aqcua is easily the most OP character introduced so far in the anime well in the LN we all know who is most OP. I mean he's God's right seat and also Saint on the top of that. As for as i can remember the fight b/w Aqcua and Touma is not that short and he gets his ass beaten so bad that he's on the verge of death. Next week Kanzaki and amakusa vs Aqcua gotta see that fight. |
Ulquiorra said: I'm still shook lolAcqua was too strong. Also I agree with the general consensus here about the episode |
JiangHaoyi1979 said: So who is this Itsuwa girl anyway and why would they want with the guy's arm anyways???? - lets rewatch Index season 1 if you want to know what is Touma right arm - lets rewatch Index season 2 if you want to know about Itsuwa - Snaita said: The pacing is good? lol lol lol It's an episode 90% about nothing... If they had made cuts on the useless shit that happened until Aqua appeared and added those cuts to the BRoyal arc it wouldn't have suck like it did. This was really bad animated, I know Acqua is fast but not drawing him at all instead of disappearing is lazy. And Touma suddenly flying without showing him being hit is just awful. Misaka power just ain't the same anymore like it used too... - I think it was the Blu-ray version MahiaErebeaNegi said: Talk about pacing, I believe this will be how they adapts the story arc in this season based on these 7 episode: Terra Arc: EP1-3 Battle Royale Arc: EP4-6 Acqua Arc: EP7-9 - i Think there'll be one or two episode(s) of Index SS2 before BRA - So, the first part of the anime explain the last part of the opening theme animation - i've big ship on Touma x Itsuwa... (Itsuwa would be good housewife for Touma) - Acqua Vs A certain boy that had amnesia and weaponless... i think it doesnt seem fair, |
bondtuxNov 16, 2018 10:07 PM
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bondtux said: JiangHaoyi1979 said: So who is this Itsuwa girl anyway and why would they want with the guy's arm anyways???? - lets rewatch Index season 1 if you want to know what is Touma right arm - lets rewatch Index season 2 if you want to know about Itsuwa - Snaita said: The pacing is good? lol lol lol It's an episode 90% about nothing... If they had made cuts on the useless shit that happened until Aqua appeared and added those cuts to the BRoyal arc it wouldn't have suck like it did. This was really bad animated, I know Acqua is fast but not drawing him at all instead of disappearing is lazy. And Touma suddenly flying without showing him being hit is just awful. Misaka power just ain't the same anymore like it used too... - I think it was the Blu-ray version MahiaErebeaNegi said: Talk about pacing, I believe this will be how they adapts the story arc in this season based on these 7 episode: Terra Arc: EP1-3 Battle Royale Arc: EP4-6 Acqua Arc: EP7-9 - i Think there'll be one or two episode(s) of Index SS2 before BRA - So, the first part of the anime explain the last part of the opening theme animation - i've big ship on Touma x Itsuwa... (Itsuwa would be good housewife for Touma) - Acqua Vs A certain boy that had amnesia and weaponless... i think it doesnt seem fair, Tokoya said: Ulquiorra said: I'm still shook lolAcqua was too strong. Also I agree with the general consensus here about the episode "touma is plot ar---" *Gets smashed by aqua.* my guess is the up coming arcs that feature touma will be decent, but any arc with only accelerator or hamazura will be butchered since the bias script writer didn't even want to include them in season 3. |
GrimAtramentNov 16, 2018 10:13 PM
| "among monsters and humans, there are only two types. Those who undergo suffering and spread it to others. And those who undergo suffering and avoid giving it to others." -Alice “Beauty is no quality in things themselves: It exists merely in the mind which contemplates them; and each mind perceives a different beauty.” David Hume “Evil is created when someone gives up on someone else. It appears when everyone gives up on someone as a lost cause and removes their path to salvation. Once they are cut off from everyone else, they become evil.” -Othinus  |
hazarddex said: bondtux said: - lets rewatch Index season 1 if you want to know what is Touma right arm - lets rewatch Index season 2 if you want to know about Itsuwa - - I think it was the Blu-ray version - i Think there'll be one or two episode(s) of Index SS2 before BRA - So, the first part of the anime explain the last part of the opening theme animation - i've big ship on Touma x Itsuwa... (Itsuwa would be good housewife for Touma) - Acqua Vs A certain boy that had amnesia and weaponless... i think it doesnt seem fair, "touma is plot ar---" *Gets smashed by aqua.* my guess is the up coming arcs that feature touma will be decent, but any arc with only accelerator or hamazura will be butchered since the bias script writer didn't even want to include them in season 3. Though ironically, that scriptwriter later states that he likes Hamazura and the second half will give them Shiage and Accelerator a lot more attention. |
bondtux said: MahiaErebeaNegi said: Talk about pacing, I believe this will be how they adapts the story arc in this season based on these 7 episode: Terra Arc: EP1-3 Battle Royale Arc: EP4-6 Acqua Arc: EP7-9 - i Think there'll be one or two episode(s) of Index SS2 before BRA I'm 90% sure that SS2 will be either be skipped or being adapts as a OVA because there's not enough episodes to adapt SS2 contents, and it will be disaster if they adapt it because either British Royal Arc will only have 4 episodes or WWIII being only 7 episodes. It should be obvious that they will skipping it with how rushed Battle Royale Arc has been adapted in previous 3 episodes. Paul said: J.C. staff must have put all their time and effort into the bathing scene cause god dammit, what the fuck is this?  It's indeed BS but hey this is Nishikiori we are talking about, he will rather gonna make the background and bathing scenes look good than make these scene to be watchable. |
MahiaErebeaNegi said: I'm 90% sure that SS2 will be either be skipped or being adapts as a OVA because there's not enough episodes to adapt SS2 contents, and it will be disaster if they adapt it because either British Royal Arc will only have 4 episodes or WWIII being only 7 episodes. It should be obvious that they will skipping it with how rushed Battle Royale Arc has been adapted in previous 3 episodes. Paul said: J.C. staff must have put all their time and effort into the bathing scene cause god dammit, what the fuck is this? It's indeed BS but hey this is Nishikiori we are talking about, he will rather gonna make the background and bathing scenes look good than make these scene to be watchable. In all honesty they should've asked another person directing it. Someone who actually care about index as a whole not people who care about fanservice in index series. Railgun was lucky because it is a manga adaptation followed by different director. Here index got shit on because the adaptation were really mediocre thanks to the director who basically doesnt do much roles directing in big anime tittle other than index (Nagai directed Toradora and Ano Hana which is already praised) meanwhile this guy praised Index not because its character and world building but because the fanservice. I swear if hes still directing New Testament if it ever got adapted i am going to lose my shit |
Xaelath said: I swear if hes still directing New Testament if it ever got adapted i am going to lose my shit Well it probably will go like that, if this season still improve sales we will be stick with him I think... what a disgrace They should just have made the reboot like they planned in the beginning, but with a different director . |
Awake_Black_Wing said: Congintive said: That was easily one of the best episode this season so far. Well, Aqcua is easily the most OP character introduced so far in the anime well in the LN we all know who is most OP. I mean he's God's right seat and also Saint on the top of that. As for as i can remember the fight b/w Aqcua and Touma is not that short and he gets his ass beaten so bad that he's on the verge of death. Next week Kanzaki and amakusa vs Aqcua gotta see that fight. I'm not sure if Acqua is more OP than Accelerator or Kakine. He is and u will see that in the next episode. |
Snaita said: The pacing is good? lol lol lol It's an episode 90% about nothing... If they had made cuts on the useless shit that happened until Aqua appeared and added those cuts to the BRoyal arc it wouldn't have suck like it did. This was really bad animated, I know Acqua is fast but not drawing him at all instead of disappearing is lazy. And Touma suddenly flying without showing him being hit is just awful. The series is a lot about slow paced, world building. You can't just 'skip that shit'. The novels do spend a lot of time explaining academy city, it's places, it's culture, the every day life of people living in it. The anime adaptation has a weird, all over the place pacing that doesn't let this aspect shine, but the series is ALL about world and character development, every conflict only serves to advance those two aspects, there's no pointless conflict just for the sake of a fight. |
AiHikariNov 17, 2018 5:52 AM
AiHikari said: Snaita said: The pacing is good? lol lol lol It's an episode 90% about nothing... If they had made cuts on the useless shit that happened until Aqua appeared and added those cuts to the BRoyal arc it wouldn't have suck like it did. This was really bad animated, I know Acqua is fast but not drawing him at all instead of disappearing is lazy. And Touma suddenly flying without showing him being hit is just awful. The series is a lot about slow paced, world building. You can't just 'skip that shit'. The novels do spend a lot of time explaining academy city, it's places, it's culture, the every day life of people living in it. The anime adaptation has a weird, all over the place pacing that doesn't let this aspect shine, but the series is ALL about world and character development, every conflict only serves to advance those two aspects, there's no pointless conflict just for the sake of a fight. Again? I said not to skip but to make it shorter. I'm all for world building which we would have in the previous arc if they shortened somethings in this episode and add it to BRoyal arc. |
Snaita said: Xaelath said: I swear if hes still directing New Testament if it ever got adapted i am going to lose my shit Well it probably will go like that, if this season still improve sales we will be stick with him I think... what a disgrace They should just have made the reboot like they planned in the beginning, but with a different director . Reboot wouldn't really help the fact that Kadokawa won't give a shit trying to make index actually good. They dumped the shit out of budget on SAO. Sure both in terms of series may got like 50+ episode but index quality is undeniably shit under J.C staff. For Background, VA, OST/Sound directing I don't see any problems and it's pretty solid then when we talk about janky animation which isn't even they key frames it's likely they have problems. In order index to be good, it need to be fully directed both art and episode as a whole new one instead following the same season. |
Xaelath said: Snaita said: Well it probably will go like that, if this season still improve sales we will be stick with him I think... what a disgrace They should just have made the reboot like they planned in the beginning, but with a different director . Reboot wouldn't really help the fact that Kadokawa won't give a shit trying to make index actually good. They dumped the shit out of budget on SAO. Sure both in terms of series may got like 50+ episode but index quality is undeniably shit under J.C staff. For Background, VA, OST/Sound directing I don't see any problems and it's pretty solid then when we talk about janky animation which isn't even they key frames it's likely they have problems. In order index to be good, it need to be fully directed both art and episode as a whole new one instead following the same season. Can't argue with that, Background, VA are good, OST I don't know.. the imagine breaker no longer sounds awesome(maybe that doesn't qualify as OST?). I don't follow LN ratings but I thought Index was the most popular and most sold Novel before SAO came along... That should have count for something, but clearly it doesn't. They just made this for the sake of being made, so when NT anime comes out people more or less get what is going on. What a disappointment... |
Tiau said: I also don't really know where people got this whole Nishikori only cares about fanservice when we're told hes the guy who doesn't like cutting scenes and forcefully extended OT13(Invasion arc) in the anime which has pretty much no fanservice unless people really like to see a bunch of mooks be killed Nishikiori himself literally stated that kind of s*** in the twitter. I will never forgot the fact he said this s*** on Twitter: "When you talk about Toaru Majutsu no Index, you will think about having bath." |
| I don't really like it how this series just tunes down and up between the arcs. Last episodes we had freaking loli sliced in half and now it is returning to comedy. |
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hazarddex said: Looks like this director has made my shit listtbondtux said: - lets rewatch Index season 1 if you want to know what is Touma right arm - lets rewatch Index season 2 if you want to know about Itsuwa - - I think it was the Blu-ray version - i Think there'll be one or two episode(s) of Index SS2 before BRA - So, the first part of the anime explain the last part of the opening theme animation - i've big ship on Touma x Itsuwa... (Itsuwa would be good housewife for Touma) - Acqua Vs A certain boy that had amnesia and weaponless... i think it doesnt seem fair, "touma is plot ar---" *Gets smashed by aqua.* my guess is the up coming arcs that feature touma will be decent, but any arc with only accelerator or hamazura will be butchered since the bias script writer didn't even want to include them in season 3. |
Piromysl said: I don't really like it how this series just tunes down and up between the arcs. Last episodes we had freaking loli sliced in half and now it is returning to comedy. battle royal was a battle between underground organization the tone shift basically shows how effectively academy city can hush stuff like that up. |
| "among monsters and humans, there are only two types. Those who undergo suffering and spread it to others. And those who undergo suffering and avoid giving it to others." -Alice “Beauty is no quality in things themselves: It exists merely in the mind which contemplates them; and each mind perceives a different beauty.” David Hume “Evil is created when someone gives up on someone else. It appears when everyone gives up on someone as a lost cause and removes their path to salvation. Once they are cut off from everyone else, they become evil.” -Othinus |
| Just watched this after Grand Blue ep5 and I gotta say, I'm actually glad it started with something light. Though I do have to wonder if that was filler |
| An admin's dickhead Soul banned me from MAL t('v't) |
red-tomato said: Just watched this after Grand Blue ep5 and I gotta say, I'm actually glad it started with something light. Though I do have to wonder if that was filler no it was canon, but no exactly integral to the plot on another note   |
GrimAtramentNov 17, 2018 12:07 PM
| "among monsters and humans, there are only two types. Those who undergo suffering and spread it to others. And those who undergo suffering and avoid giving it to others." -Alice “Beauty is no quality in things themselves: It exists merely in the mind which contemplates them; and each mind perceives a different beauty.” David Hume “Evil is created when someone gives up on someone else. It appears when everyone gives up on someone as a lost cause and removes their path to salvation. Once they are cut off from everyone else, they become evil.” -Othinus |
Tiau said: MahiaErebeaNegi said: Nishikiori himself literally stated that kind of s*** in the twitter. I will never forgot the fact he said this s*** on Twitter: "When you talk about Toaru Majutsu no Index, you will think about having bath." And then we’re told “When planning out the season, Yoshino says some options he considered were only featuring Touma's side of WW3 or cutting out OT15 and 19, but he knew that would anger the fans, he wants to see those parts animated as much as anyone, and "with Index, you just want to see everything". Yoshino says he will sometimes have cut a scene to get things to fit but Nishikiori will then put it back in. Nishikiori says that's because, while the scene isn't strictly necessary, it often has a line he really wants to hear in the anime. Nishikiori says "corrections" like that ended up extending the "Kihara arc" by 15 minutes.” Now sure he probably really likes fanservice or maybe he was joking but either way if that was all he cared about why would he forcefully extend a arc that had no actual fanservice? The issue with Nishikori is that he may be a fan, but he have no talent for the directing, the bath scenes were unnecessary but he added them, while some other cameos would have been far better. For example how about, we add a little flash back reaction during the diner scene with ITEM discussing SCHOOL's sniper to hint at Frenda's own little adventure. Both are non-canon scenes (Shut up the bath scenes are), but one help with world-building and hinting at storylines that are coming in future animation, while the other is a waste of precious visual story-telling medium. Or how Acqua's pillar scene looked, you don't have budget we know, but you could at least used speed lines and no between frames to signify the speed of the attack, there are far cheaper ways of animating superspeed, but he choose the pillar falling over, both more costly and less effective at conveying the story. Also, the non-canon bath scenes, I am certain he is not making a joke about his love of bath scenes, and it is to this day the most toxic thing with him. Lastly, just directly copy-pasting everything from the novel is suicide and he should know it, 26 episodes, and 2 have to be begged by good old yoshi. Nishikori's fault is that he did nothing about it, and still indulged in his bath and fanservice scenes, it would be forgiven if we have 48 eps, but with 26, with the amount of other contents such as Mattai Reese's characterization getting axed while the fanservice scenes getts better animation, a blind man can see what he cares more about. |
ap1001Nov 17, 2018 1:43 PM
| "You had no free will, you chased your vices along the same path as all of the others." - Shikieiki Yamaxanadu, Diamond in the rough |
| It is amazing how less intimidating Aqua seems compared to when he saved Vento. And the action is so amazing that our mongrel eyes arent even allowed to see it. -Aqua [i]probably[i/] did something. -Itsuwa stands up off screen -Touma gets hurt multiple times off screen -Subs are retarded(not the studio's fault but fuck them anyway) -designs are retarded -IB had no sound effect Fuck it I am watching this for Misaka's ass,if I cant get the adaptation I wanted then at least I will get a good fap out of it. FSS, the best scene in the whole ep was the bike scene.It was the only time I felt something good was happening. |
| is it me or fukiyose's oppai got smaller and itsuwa's got bigger this season lol this ep had good understandable pacing compare to the last 6 eps,thats a relief then great animation in most scenes also some scenes are hilarious af XD im excited to see kanzaki next ep |
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Ressonancee said: is it me or fukiyose's oppai got smaller Fukiyose's breasts was always that small in LN (And in almost every adaptations), it's just the season 2 anime they buff her breasts size for some reason. They just trying to follow the original character design more closer this time around. |
Paul said: This episode was outsourced to a studio called Moon (株式会社 月面). I can't seem to find any info about them at all, but it's pretty obvious, that they did a pretty poor job on it. JC Staff had to hire even more animation directors than usual to 'fix' the important cuts, totaling in 15 animation directors (3 Chief ADs + 12 ADs), which is absolute crazy. This show's production is beyond dead. J.C. staff must have put all their time and effort into the bathing scene cause god dammit, what the fuck is this? |
MaceChan said: It has been confirmed dead when the moment J.C Staff admitted that they made this anime on rushed due to tight production schedule lol.This show's production is beyond dead. |
| Nice ass biribiri. |
| "The future is always blank. Only your willpower can leave footsteps there." "Ruling over death means ruling over life. Death is the climax of life. To have the best death, you must honor life." |
Tiau said: ssjokg said: It is amazing how less intimidating Aqua seems compared to when he saved Vento. And the action is so amazing that our mongrel eyes arent even allowed to see it. -Aqua [i]probably[i/] did something. -Itsuwa stands up off screen -Touma gets hurt multiple times off screen -Subs are retarded(not the studio's fault but fuck them anyway) -designs are retarded -IB had no sound effect Fuck it I am watching this for Misaka's ass,if I cant get the adaptation I wanted then at least I will get a good fap out of it. FSS, the best scene in the whole ep was the bike scene.It was the only time I felt something good was happening. I find it impressive you could sit there and say Acqua in Index s2 has anything over how he looks now honestly, though I'm pretty sure it was done in this way because the novel portrayed him as doing something so fast its as if he's actually just disappearing. I dunno what designs you hate or the subs but considering how small your complaint list actually is then this episode most be exceptional then(just kidding but seriously tho) Here's a cookie for your efforts at trying to make this look better than it is. Seriously are you getting paid for this? Is complaining for the lack of animation not enough? What makes you think that his speed means that there shouldnt be any animation to indicate such feat? Have you seen Fate?EVERY Servant is faster than Saints and yet we get a small nice animation and some effects that show that feat. Touma is beaten off screen. Isnt this bad enough? Both Aqua and KL look like background characters.KL is truly bad since he is in the OP and OPs are supposed to make everything look better than what they are in the actual series. Aqua in s2 had presence.Here he just appears and beats the mc off screen while looking like he is slowly transforming into Terra(good work there animators). Truly a masterpiece. |
| >Being happy with 1/10 of what should be called effort in animation this is why the industry accepts crap like this. This Aqua is a skinny twig as well. And yet the Aqua that arrived to save Vento and told Touma to not try anything stupid if he values his life was a lot more threatening than the guy that appeared, talked shit and beat them off screen. It is the same fucking director so I have no idea how he was able to do this but it isobvious that the staff for s3 put even less effort to this than they did for s2. |
| Go see an eye doctor. |
Tiau said: ssjokg said: Go see an eye doctor. Muscle definition is pretty easy to spot, instead of insulting me you really should admit his design was only improved here. I have no idea what muscle definition you refer to.You mean that bit on his chest in image 4? Yeah.... WHAT an improvement. Still slim as hell in image 3. |
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