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Nov 3, 2018 8:26 PM
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It's just my opinion but if you rewatch the previous 2 seasons of Index,you will find that Index 3 have better animation and pacing.Index as a series has always been heavily edited and shortened out in the anime adaptation since the first Index came out,so it's not fair to shit on Index 3 as it doesn't seem to be as heavily edited as some of the previous season 1 arcs when they adapted it from the LN.

I can get why people are hating on how rushed it is tho.
In fact,there are multiple reasons why people prefer the first two
1.Your Tastes have changed (it's been 5 years since Index 2,some people's tastes in anime might have changed since then)
2.Nostalgia (Nostalgia might make you feel that the original series is better than the current one)
3.Time spent reading the Light Novel (many people converted to the LN after the 1st or 2nd season of Index and continued from there which means they may not realize that Index has always been heavily edited and seeing parts of the LN not get adapted into the adaptation makes you feel like you've wasted your time)
4.Pieces of the LN you were looking forward to were not included
5.People who didn't watch Railgun are confused by the characters who initially debutted
in it like ITEM and Uiharu.
6.There are a lot of things you need to remember from the previous 2 seasons (granted it's been 5 years,I'm going to assume many people don't remember some events that took place let alone the minor characters like Etzali and Awaki.)

In conclusion,Index has always had a pretty fast pacing,skipping over the minor details to battles.Index is a battle-oriented anime and always have a battle going on close to every single episode.That's why the pacing seems a little fast.On the other hand,Railgun seems to have better pacing as there isn't battles going on every episode and is more slice-of-life oriented.In my opinion,battles from Index have always been heavily edited from the LN.What are you guys' thoughts on this?

On a side note,let's be thankful that Index is finally back and with 2 spinoff series announced in the next year. :D
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Nov 3, 2018 9:14 PM
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the first 2 seasons alone have better battle animation than all of the season 3 battle scenes so far

this is a battle anime show so i expect some good animated battle scenes at least that did not happen yet

and worse anime only watchers are confuse or lost of whats happening on the story since the show expects you already read the source material

this franchise will likely fail too since i heard the source material (light novel) have declining sales for a lot of time now so i might expect this to be the last anime season of Index too
Nov 3, 2018 10:58 PM
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deg said:
the first 2 seasons alone have better battle animation than all of the season 3 battle scenes so far

this is a battle anime show so i expect some good animated battle scenes at least that did not happen yet

and worse anime only watchers are confuse or lost of whats happening on the story since the show expects you already read the source material

this franchise will likely fail too since i heard the source material (light novel) have declining sales for a lot of time now so i might expect this to be the last anime season of Index too

well,I would say the same but I think we should give it some time as it is only the 5th episode so far.Though despite this,I wonder,have you noticed the increase in background quality? It doesn't seem like they have run out of budget just yet.

For the case of the LN,I would say on average,every LN has an rough increase for about 5 years before decreasing after the release of an anime adaptation.I would say once this season is finished.Light novel sales are sure to skyrocket once again.
Well,try not to have too high expectations :P
Just sit back n enjoy the show ;)
Nov 4, 2018 12:55 AM
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Magicaburn said:
deg said:
the first 2 seasons alone have better battle animation than all of the season 3 battle scenes so far

this is a battle anime show so i expect some good animated battle scenes at least that did not happen yet

and worse anime only watchers are confuse or lost of whats happening on the story since the show expects you already read the source material

this franchise will likely fail too since i heard the source material (light novel) have declining sales for a lot of time now so i might expect this to be the last anime season of Index too

well,I would say the same but I think we should give it some time as it is only the 5th episode so far.Though despite this,I wonder,have you noticed the increase in background quality? It doesn't seem like they have run out of budget just yet.

For the case of the LN,I would say on average,every LN has an rough increase for about 5 years before decreasing after the release of an anime adaptation.I would say once this season is finished.Light novel sales are sure to skyrocket once again.
Well,try not to have too high expectations :P
Just sit back n enjoy the show ;)


lol i would say i expect it to at least be as enjoyable as the first 2 seasons that is just my wish for now but that does not happen yet, the first few episodes of an anime usually have better animation at least but so far thats not the case too

Nov 4, 2018 2:19 AM
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Maityoman said:
While some of your points are correct I will still say that Index III in it's current state is a failure compared to the other seasons. I can't even begin to explain the ways that they could have handled this better. 7 years of waiting for this, only to be betrayed by Kadokawa... It's sad really. One of (if not the most) important LN series of all time getting this sort of treatment is stupid...

Well then,shall we hope that the upcoming episodes will be treated better for the remaining 21 eps that is still left.If there is still hope that is :P
Animation-wise they've done a good job tho.I'm assuming the reason why they're rushing so much is because they are intending to end it in the World War 3 arc.

If there is a new series of Index in the future,it'll probably start as Shinyaku Toaru no Majutsu Index.
(Well that is granted that people actually buy their blue-ray,dvds,LN and manga volumes after the series had ended)
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Nov 4, 2018 4:51 AM
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Magicaburn said:
Maityoman said:
While some of your points are correct I will still say that Index III in it's current state is a failure compared to the other seasons. I can't even begin to explain the ways that they could have handled this better. 7 years of waiting for this, only to be betrayed by Kadokawa... It's sad really. One of (if not the most) important LN series of all time getting this sort of treatment is stupid...

Well then,shall we hope that the upcoming episodes will be treated better for the remaining 21 eps that is still left.If there is still hope that is :P
Animation-wise they've done a good job tho.I'm assuming the reason why they're rushing so much is because they are intending to end it in the World War 3 arc.

If there is a new series of Index in the future,it'll probably start as Shinyaku Toaru no Majutsu Index.
(Well that is granted that people actually buy their blue-ray,dvds,LN and manga volumes after the series had ended)


Oh god please no, if this is all their capable of, I hope they never touch NT with their slimey hands. NT3,4,8,9,10 MUST have a talented man on pare with Russo Brothers do convey them in to anime format to maintain the excellency of the source. Its not something that someone as incompetent as Nishikori can do in a thousand years.
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Nov 4, 2018 6:18 AM
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ap1001 said:
Oh god please no, if this is all their capable of, I hope they never touch NT with their slimey hands. NT3,4,8,9,10 MUST have a talented man on pare with Russo Brothers do convey them in to anime format to maintain the excellency of the source. Its not something that someone as incompetent as Nishikori can do in a thousand years.

Sadly, they will DO a NT adaptation with Nishikiori as the director of it after Index III is ended. This is heavily hinted in one of the interview.
Nov 4, 2018 8:40 AM
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MahiaErebeaNegi said:
ap1001 said:
Oh god please no, if this is all their capable of, I hope they never touch NT with their slimey hands. NT3,4,8,9,10 MUST have a talented man on pare with Russo Brothers do convey them in to anime format to maintain the excellency of the source. Its not something that someone as incompetent as Nishikori can do in a thousand years.

Sadly, they will DO a NT adaptation with Nishikiori as the director of it after Index III is ended. This is heavily hinted in one of the interview.

Yep, and factor in that kamachi the writer of the index light novel is good buddies with nishkoiri as implied in the intwerview and likes his direction, it may be not the last time we see him directing index.
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Nov 4, 2018 8:25 PM
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yeah all index seasons were rushed and there was some cuts and shit , but it has never been this rushed , just look at the trailer they will go to vol.22 that means 9 volumes to adapt and if they adapted SS2 that will be 10 , in one fuckin season , season 1 and 2 didn't do that and the anime was understandable for the anime only viewers , but now the anime viewers don't understand what's happening in the BR arc and it's supposed to be one of the best arcs in the OT now it's one of the worst arcs in the anime , they decided to fuck up in my favorite part of the LN , this season if they've done it right was going to be the best index season or atleast if they did it with the pace of the past 2 seasons , but now it's the worst season , i hate that nishikiori guy , fuck him FUCK HIM i was waiting so much for this season and now i'm so disappointed, with every episode i become more sad and disappointed for what's happening and i can't stop watching this shit i want to know what will they do or maybe it'll get better at some point :") , i hate anyone who got involved in this shit
Nov 5, 2018 12:30 AM

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Tsukumo_Yuuma said:
yeah all index seasons were rushed and there was some cuts and shit , but it has never been this rushed , just look at the trailer they will go to vol.22 that means 9 volumes to adapt and if they adapted SS2 that will be 10 , in one fuckin season , season 1 and 2 didn't do that and the anime was understandable for the anime only viewers , but now the anime viewers don't understand what's happening in the BR arc and it's supposed to be one of the best arcs in the OT now it's one of the worst arcs in the anime , they decided to fuck up in my favorite part of the LN , this season if they've done it right was going to be the best index season or atleast if they did it with the pace of the past 2 seasons , but now it's the worst season , i hate that nishikiori guy , fuck him FUCK HIM i was waiting so much for this season and now i'm so disappointed, with every episode i become more sad and disappointed for what's happening and i can't stop watching this shit i want to know what will they do or maybe it'll get better at some point :") , i hate anyone who got involved in this shit

You basically scum up what I thought about this season, lol.

Also SS2 will mostly likely to be ignored in this season, but since some of the contents in that novel was important and will getting mention again in Season 4/NT adaptation....... who's know?
Nov 5, 2018 6:15 AM

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I think people like Railgun and Accelerator better because A Certain Magical Index drags too much. They need to start focusing more on the little things, then gradually turn it into something big at a good pace.
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Although this season has not been my favourite, I am not expecting that much less from Railgun 3
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MahiaErebeaNegi said:
Tsukumo_Yuuma said:
yeah all index seasons were rushed and there was some cuts and shit , but it has never been this rushed , just look at the trailer they will go to vol.22 that means 9 volumes to adapt and if they adapted SS2 that will be 10 , in one fuckin season , season 1 and 2 didn't do that and the anime was understandable for the anime only viewers , but now the anime viewers don't understand what's happening in the BR arc and it's supposed to be one of the best arcs in the OT now it's one of the worst arcs in the anime , they decided to fuck up in my favorite part of the LN , this season if they've done it right was going to be the best index season or atleast if they did it with the pace of the past 2 seasons , but now it's the worst season , i hate that nishikiori guy , fuck him FUCK HIM i was waiting so much for this season and now i'm so disappointed, with every episode i become more sad and disappointed for what's happening and i can't stop watching this shit i want to know what will they do or maybe it'll get better at some point :") , i hate anyone who got involved in this shit

You basically scum up what I thought about this season, lol.

Also SS2 will mostly likely to be ignored in this season, but since some of the contents in that novel was important and will getting mention again in Season 4/NT adaptation....... who's know?


if they will do an NT adaptation i hope they change that director or even change all the staff and the studio , fuck JC with their crazy schedule they're doing hundreds of animes at the same time
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Railgun S has been the best of the series so far despite it being a slow burn and cheesefest. At least it gives time for each character and story to develop. This season I have no idea who or wtf is going on half the time or why I should care since they show up for ten seconds and then it's someone else or they just die.
Also way too much pointless violence and deaths. I wouldn't want to live in Academy City where thousands of deaths and mutilations occur on a daily basis making it worse than dystopia Detroit from RoboCop. Like that lady with the baby almost got blown to bits in broad daylight by the blonde girl in the pink dress. Also ppl like Toma's classmate and Last Order's bff just perform extrajudicial executions with guns now? Wut???
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Tsukumo_Yuuma said:
MahiaErebeaNegi said:

You basically scum up what I thought about this season, lol.

Also SS2 will mostly likely to be ignored in this season, but since some of the contents in that novel was important and will getting mention again in Season 4/NT adaptation....... who's know?


if they will do an NT adaptation i hope they change that director or even change all the staff and the studio , fuck JC with their crazy schedule they're doing hundreds of animes at the same time

I will like to see they change the director or change to other studio like Shaft and ufotable as well, but sadly that will never happen.

Sir2win said:
Also way too much pointless violence and deaths. I wouldn't want to live in Academy City where thousands of deaths and mutilations occur on a daily basis making it worse than dystopia Detroit from RoboCop.
This is why the event that currently happened in this season so far was referred as one of the "Dark Side of Academy City".
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Sir2win said:

Also way too much pointless violence and deaths. I wouldn't want to live in Academy City where thousands of deaths and mutilations occur on a daily basis making it worse than dystopia Detroit from RoboCop. Like that lady with the baby almost got blown to bits in broad daylight by the blonde girl in the pink dress. Also ppl like Toma's classmate and Last Order's bff just perform extrajudicial executions with guns now? Wut???


All of that were happening since S1. This proves how much the adaptations faile dto convey what is happening.

When the moe filled spin off series does a better job than the main one it should be obvious how bad the Index staff is.
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Having not read the LN's, i'm in love with this season. To me it is far better than the previous ones. I'm enjoying myself more, and I'm loving the pacing and the change of focus in characters...


Are you drugs while watching this?

The pace leaves no room for anything to make sense and changing focus on charcacters was a thing since season 1.


What in the actual hell.
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desgostoamargo said:
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Are you drugs while watching this?

The pace leaves no room for anything to make sense and changing focus on charcacters was a thing since season 1.


What in the actual hell.


Probably the problem is YOU. I'm understanding things and I'm having fun, and all you can do about this is accepting it. Your tastes and the way you experience isn't the same way others experience things.

Stop being rude and try to be more accepting of other ones views, buddy. Not everyone share the same opinions.


Have it your way.

Next time you eat shit I wont be there telling you that it is shit just because you feel it tastes like pizza.
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deg said:


this franchise will likely fail too since i heard the source material (light novel) have declining sales for a lot of time now so i might expect this to be the last anime season of Index too

For a series that barely got any boost for 5 years and still remains 48k+ copies avg that's called solid.

The characters and a LN still keep hitting top 10 yearly in light sugoi awards. You can. Find it on Wiki or Baka Tsuki.

The real LN leader know that what they're waiting for aren't in OT but in NT.
OT are pretty meh early on and some characters were undeveloped or ignored.

For Manga readers, shit is on fire yo in next season of Railgun.

Also spoilers, Accelerator anime will 100% sucks if you ever know how bad is the Manga.
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desgostoamargo said:
ssjokg said:


Are you drugs while watching this?

The pace leaves no room for anything to make sense and changing focus on charcacters was a thing since season 1.


What in the actual hell.


Probably the problem is YOU. I'm understanding things and I'm having fun, and all you can do about this is accepting it. Your tastes and the way you experience isn't the same way others experience things.

Stop being rude and try to be more accepting of other ones views, buddy. Not everyone share the same opinions.

While I can understand you enjoy it and I see no problem with it. I must say in ssjokg's defense that's really difficult to think that you understood a lot of what happened just watching this. What happened with Etzali and Xochitl? How did Hamazura defeat a Lvl 5? Why Fre/nda was killed by Mugino? Let's not talk about anything related to Accel and Kaki...
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_Otaking_ said:
desgostoamargo said:


Probably the problem is YOU. I'm understanding things and I'm having fun, and all you can do about this is accepting it. Your tastes and the way you experience isn't the same way others experience things.

Stop being rude and try to be more accepting of other ones views, buddy. Not everyone share the same opinions.

While I can understand you enjoy it and I see no problem with it. I must say in ssjokg's defense that's really difficult to think that you understood a lot of what happened just watching this. What happened with Etzali and Xochitl? How did Hamazura defeat a Lvl 5? Why Fre/nda was killed by Mugino? Let's not talk about anything related to Accel and Kaki...


honestly the biggest flaw currently in season 3.

is the lack of context they left out for some scenes.

they barely explained the twezzers.

they left out Hamazura's meeting with his old gang where he got the hand gun that saved his life by the way.

they left out the anti skill ladies connection to both protagonists of this arc which builds up her own character and views as well as why she never takes a life of a esper

however honestly i've seen worse adaptations out there *cough* tsukihime *cough*


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Those who undergo suffering and spread it to others. And those who undergo suffering and avoid giving it to others." -Alice
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hazarddex said:
_Otaking_ said:

While I can understand you enjoy it and I see no problem with it. I must say in ssjokg's defense that's really difficult to think that you understood a lot of what happened just watching this. What happened with Etzali and Xochitl? How did Hamazura defeat a Lvl 5? Why Fre/nda was killed by Mugino? Let's not talk about anything related to Accel and Kaki...


honestly the biggest flaw currently in season 3.

is the lack of context they left out for some scenes.

they barely explained the twezzers.

they left out Hamazura's meeting with his old gang where he got the hand gun that saved his life by the way.

they left out the anti skill ladies connection to both protagonists of this arc which builds up her own character and views as well as why she never takes a life of a esper

however honestly i've seen worse adaptations out there *cough* tsukihime *cough*




Shhhhht. That's taboo.
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Tsukihime having a worse adaptation doesn't mean it's okay to accept this butchered adaptation. Might as well just go around to every fandom and tell them hey Tokyo Ghoul re/Fate Stay Night/*insert more commonly hated adaptations* aren't so bad because Tsukihime is way worse.

I mean, Index III is watchable for LN readers. But it's worse than the previous 2 overall, which is rather amazing in its own way. I didn't expect an improvement I just wanted more of the same at the very least. But eh, hopefully Railgun 3 doesn't have half a season of terrible fillers.
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however honestly i've seen worse adaptations out there *cough* tsukihime *cough*

There's no Tsukihime anime.

Also that title should belongs to UQ Holder! anime which trying to adapted 140 chapters (16 manga volumes) INTO 12 EPISODES, what's even worse that is none of the Negima!/UQ Holder! anime adaptations was even trying to follow it's source materials for MORE THAN 10 YEARS (The Negima! OVAs is the only exception of this).
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MahiaErebeaNegi said:
hazarddex said:
however honestly i've seen worse adaptations out there *cough* tsukihime *cough*

There's no Tsukihime anime.

Also that title should belongs to UQ Holder! anime which trying to adapted 140 chapters (16 manga volumes) INTO 12 EPISODES, what's even worse that is none of the Negima!/UQ Holder! anime adaptations was even trying to follow it's source materials for MORE THAN 10 YEARS (The Negima! OVAs is the only exception of this).


so like dream eater merry? where even the director had to apologize for how non canon the anime was?
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Those who undergo suffering and spread it to others. And those who undergo suffering and avoid giving it to others." -Alice
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“Evil is created when someone gives up on someone else. It appears when everyone gives up on someone as a lost cause and removes their path to salvation. Once they are cut off from everyone else, they become evil.” -Othinus

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I hope they will remake this Battle Royale arc in Accelerator anime, and I think the next arcs of Index III would not have problems like this arc...I just feel that they make Battle Royale arc so rushed on purpose to focus the budget on next arcs, well J.C. Staff also have so many anime adaptation next year so I get where they coming.
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This thread again?

I don't read the LN and I watched Railgun, re-watched season 2 before this season 3. I still think that the other seasons were better than this one on every front and it's not the epic fight on episode 6 between Accelerator and Kakine that came out recently will not change a damn thing.
Animation is worse, it's a fact... even if season 3 was on the same level as the other seasons(which I think it's worst), it would mean that in 7 years they improved jack shit. The story is all over the place, you cleverly mention the only group(ITEM) mentioned in Railgun but left out the other 4-5 groups that suddenly appeared out of the blue with no background whatsoever and their members start dying in a way to make you feel for them, but cause you don't know them their deaths just feel empty. They are turning Touma into a douche, by delivering one-liners one after the other(so no longer being one-linners). Remember Terra fight? The guy who looked liked he was fighting with kitchen flour?
We have not one but two characters that died but magically appeared alive in season 3... the nun being interrogated in the beginning of season 3 was implied dead in season 2, the old academy city director that Tshumikado "killed" was alive again in the following arc... nothing liked this happened in the other seasons.
So yes, season 3 is that bad and there's no excuse because they had not 1 not 2 but 7.5 years to planned this carefully but they just didn't, even though there's was a huge fanbase waiting so much damn time for Index.
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Magicaburn said:
get why people are hating on how rushed it is tho.
In fact,there are multiple reasons why people prefer the first two
1.Your Tastes have changed (it's been 5 years since Index 2,some people's tastes in anime might have changed since then)
2.Nostalgia (Nostalgia might make you feel that the original series is better than the current one)
3.Time spent reading the Light Novel (many people converted to the LN after the 1st or 2nd season of Index and continued from there which means they may not realize that Index has always been heavily edited and seeing parts of the LN not get adapted into the adaptation makes you feel like you've wasted your time)
4.Pieces of the LN you were looking forward to were not included
5.People who didn't watch Railgun are confused by the characters who initially debutted
in it like ITEM and Uiharu.
6.There are a lot of things you need to remember from the previous 2 seasons (granted it's been 5 years,I'm going to assume many people don't remember some events that took place let alone the minor characters like Etzali and Awaki.)


I've rewatch Index (and Railgun this week-end) and I can't agree.

1- My taste change yeah. But I really like Railgun and Index is between average and ok after rewatch. And this third season is between bad and average.

2- I'm not nostalgic.. I don't really care about To Aru series. Before my rewatch tho..

3/4- I haven't read the LN

5- I watch Railgun but there are too many characters. From Railgun or not.

6- Yeah.. I've just rewatch Index and I've already forgot few things. Too much to remember.


But I feel the rush more than Index I or II with no clue about the LN, explanations are horrible, I understand nothing contrary to Index II.
To much characters and too much plot for a bad staging.. :(

Pls do it better for Railgun III :(
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Snaita said:
This thread again?

I don't read the LN and I watched Railgun, re-watched season 2 before this season 3. I still think that the other seasons were better than this one on every front and it's not the epic fight on episode 6 between Accelerator and Kakine that came out recently will not change a damn thing.
Animation is worse, it's a fact... even if season 3 was on the same level as the other seasons(which I think it's worst), it would mean that in 7 years they improved jack shit. The story is all over the place, you cleverly mention the only group(ITEM) mentioned in Railgun but left out the other 4-5 groups that suddenly appeared out of the blue with no background whatsoever and their members start dying in a way to make you feel for them, but cause you don't know them their deaths just feel empty. They are turning Touma into a douche, by delivering one-liners one after the other(so no longer being one-linners). Remember Terra fight? The guy who looked liked he was fighting with kitchen flour?
We have not one but two characters that died but magically appeared alive in season 3... the nun being interrogated in the beginning of season 3 was implied dead in season 2, the old academy city director that Tshumikado "killed" was alive again in the following arc... nothing liked this happened in the other seasons.
So yes, season 3 is that bad and there's no excuse because they had not 1 not 2 but 7.5 years to planned this carefully but they just didn't, even though there's was a huge fanbase waiting so much damn time for Index.

I'm with you man, I don't know (and I don't care anymore) who the 90% of the current cast is. They keep throwing names and more names but don't explain a single thing. They are expecting waaaay too much from a normal watcher, so what I understand is that, this third season was made just for novel readers (or manga, idk).
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hazarddex said:
MahiaErebeaNegi said:

There's no Tsukihime anime.

Also that title should belongs to UQ Holder! anime which trying to adapted 140 chapters (16 manga volumes) INTO 12 EPISODES, what's even worse that is none of the Negima!/UQ Holder! anime adaptations was even trying to follow it's source materials for MORE THAN 10 YEARS (The Negima! OVAs is the only exception of this).


so like dream eater merry? where even the director had to apologize for how non canon the anime was?

I never heard that anime before lol, thought I can say that anime is even more rushed than Index III does that even skipped TWO ENTIRE STORY ARC and changing some of the story pacing causes the entire story plot make no sense at all.

The thing is the original author of that manga series itself (Ken Akamatsu) was part of the director of that anime along with Youhei Suzuki (Who also directed some of Shana III's episodes), and yet he still let all those rushed plot and fillers stuffs happened. Akamatsu himself personally think it'll will be boring if the anime just follow the manga stories (And he said it's just wasting your time for the anime follow it's source material when there's already have a manga version of it) and he wants to gives both manga fans and anime-only fans a "different" experience about the series.
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MahiaErebeaNegi said:
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so like dream eater merry? where even the director had to apologize for how non canon the anime was?

I never heard that anime before lol, thought I can say that anime is even more rushed than Index III does that even skipped TWO ENTIRE STORY ARC and changing some of the story pacing causes the entire story plot make no sense at all.

The thing is the original author of that manga series itself (Ken Akamatsu) was part of the director of that anime along with Youhei Suzuki (Who also directed some of Shana III's episodes), and yet he still let all those rushed plot and fillers stuffs happened. Akamatsu himself personally think it'll will be boring if the anime just follow the manga stories (And he said it's just wasting your time for the anime follow it's source material when there's already have a manga version of it) and he wants to gives both manga fans and anime-only fans a "different" experience about the series.


dream eater merry didn't even finish the first arc before going full filler.
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MahiaErebeaNegi said:
The thing is the original author of that manga series itself (Ken Akamatsu) was part of the director of that anime along with Youhei Suzuki (Who also directed some of Shana III's episodes), and yet he still let all those rushed plot and fillers stuffs happened. Akamatsu himself personally think it'll will be boring if the anime just follow the manga stories (And he said it's just wasting your time for the anime follow it's source material when there's already have a manga version of it) and he wants to gives both manga fans and anime-only fans a "different" experience about the series.
Yeah, that happens quite often. Rushing through the source's story is a good ad for the Manga/LN after all. If you as an anime only guy liked the show you can just continue with the latest chapter/volume or even better start from the beginning. Same goes for anime-only stories. Experiencing the story in a different way, so to speak. Even though it's mostly done pretty poorly. Who may be responsible for these bad adaptions is often hard to tell, but usually they are done with the consent of the author.

For another example, Tokyo Ghoul is quite a mess, people put the blame on Studio Pierrot, even though its the manga's author who suggested to do original stories and how the manga should be adapted. JC Staff's Bakuman also derived a bit from the manga in order to focus more on it's romance, which was again suggested by the manga's authors.
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I just feel that they make Battle Royale arc so rushed on purpose to focus the budget on next arcs
Stahp. Please stahp. This isn't a thing. It never was a thing that studios do.
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deg said:
the first 2 seasons alone have better battle animation than all of the season 3 battle scenes so far

this is a battle anime show so i expect some good animated battle scenes at least that did not happen yet

and worse anime only watchers are confuse or lost of whats happening on the story since the show expects you already read the source material

this franchise will likely fail too since i heard the source material (light novel) have declining sales for a lot of time now so i might expect this to be the last anime season of Index too

well,I would say the same but I think we should give it some time as it is only the 5th episode so far.Though despite this,I wonder,have you noticed the increase in background quality? It doesn't seem like they have run out of budget just yet.

For the case of the LN,I would say on average,every LN has an rough increase for about 5 years before decreasing after the release of an anime adaptation.I would say once this season is finished.Light novel sales are sure to skyrocket once again.
Well,try not to have too high expectations :P
Just sit back n enjoy the show ;)


The 3d background animation got WAY better. 2d character animation got a little worse. It's a tradeoff. JC has been relying more and more on 3d as of late.
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MaceChan said:
MahiaErebeaNegi said:
The thing is the original author of that manga series itself (Ken Akamatsu) was part of the director of that anime along with Youhei Suzuki (Who also directed some of Shana III's episodes), and yet he still let all those rushed plot and fillers stuffs happened. Akamatsu himself personally think it'll will be boring if the anime just follow the manga stories (And he said it's just wasting your time for the anime follow it's source material when there's already have a manga version of it) and he wants to gives both manga fans and anime-only fans a "different" experience about the series.
Yeah, that happens quite often. Rushing through the source's story is a good ad for the Manga/LN after all. If you as an anime only guy liked the show you can just continue with the latest chapter/volume or even better start from the beginning. Same goes for anime-only stories. Experiencing the story in a different way, so to speak. Even though it's mostly done pretty poorly. Who may be responsible for these bad adaptions is often hard to tell, but usually they are done with the consent of the author.

For another example, Tokyo Ghoul is quite a mess, people put the blame on Studio Pierrot, even though its the manga's author who suggested to do original stories and how the manga should be adapted. JC Staff's Bakuman also derived a bit from the manga in order to focus more on it's romance, which was again suggested by the manga's authors.

No, it's a shitty Ad. After watching this I have less interested in reading the LN if it was actually good I would be pumped, that's how a good Ad works.
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Magicaburn said:

well,I would say the same but I think we should give it some time as it is only the 5th episode so far.Though despite this,I wonder,have you noticed the increase in background quality? It doesn't seem like they have run out of budget just yet.

For the case of the LN,I would say on average,every LN has an rough increase for about 5 years before decreasing after the release of an anime adaptation.I would say once this season is finished.Light novel sales are sure to skyrocket once again.
Well,try not to have too high expectations :P
Just sit back n enjoy the show ;)


The 3d background animation got WAY better. 2d character animation got a little worse. It's a tradeoff. JC has been relying more and more on 3d as of late.

Who the fuck cares about the background when everything else got a lot worse??

This must be the shittiest tradeoff.
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Was the last arc of index 2 even good to begin with?
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Was the last arc of index 2 even good to begin with?


930 was suppose to be the culmination of multiple plot threads coming together for the first half of OT, kickstarting new stage. Not that you would get the feeling from the anime version.
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interesting note apparently this season was originally going to be a reboot....>_>
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As someone who watched all other Index/Railgun anime but never reads LN, this season is by far the worst Index anime I've watched. 6 episodes in and I have zero clue what is happening and why the plot is bouncing all over the place with no explanation.

The anime have not managed to tell me any story as I watch random actions taken by the characters. I have low standards for story, as I can even watch some random harem anime with barely any plot. But this one tries to convey a story that is as good as nothing. I don't even know what and why I'm watching.
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interesting note apparently this season was originally going to be a reboot....>_>
No that was just clickbait title. From what I understood a reboot was one of the suggestions during the planning, not "what was originally intended" like a certain news site is making it sound.
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indesx season 3 make me thingking why they make so rushed adaptatation instead making a good one.

if they really make reboot what do you think index will look like?

if the reboot make the same amount novel they gonna adapt.

i dont think there is not much different if index make a reboot.
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hazarddex said:
interesting note apparently this season was originally going to be a reboot....>_>
No that was just clickbait title. From what I understood a reboot was one of the suggestions during the planning, not "what was originally intended" like a certain news site is making it sound.


is that so? then the news is misleading right?
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Agreed just as I re-watched the two previous seasons of Index. I'll do the same for Railgun, to better appreciate it's 3rd season.

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