Index 3 isn't that bad?

deg said:
the first 2 seasons alone have better battle animation than all of the season 3 battle scenes so far

this is a battle anime show so i expect some good animated battle scenes at least that did not happen yet

and worse anime only watchers are confuse or lost of whats happening on the story since the show expects you already read the source material

this franchise will likely fail too since i heard the source material (light novel) have declining sales for a lot of time now so i might expect this to be the last anime season of Index too

Magicaburn said:

well,I would say the same but I think we should give it some time as it is only the 5th episode so far.Though despite this,I wonder,have you noticed the increase in background quality? It doesn't seem like they have run out of budget just yet.

For the case of the LN,I would say on average,every LN has an rough increase for about 5 years before decreasing after the release of an anime adaptation.I would say once this season is finished.Light novel sales are sure to skyrocket once again.
Well,try not to have too high expectations :P
Just sit back n enjoy the show ;)

Maityoman said:
While some of your points are correct I will still say that Index III in it's current state is a failure compared to the other seasons. I can't even begin to explain the ways that they could have handled this better. 7 years of waiting for this, only to be betrayed by Kadokawa... It's sad really. One of (if not the most) important LN series of all time getting this sort of treatment is stupid...

Magicaburn said:

Well then,shall we hope that the upcoming episodes will be treated better for the remaining 21 eps that is still left.If there is still hope that is :P
Animation-wise they've done a good job tho.I'm assuming the reason why they're rushing so much is because they are intending to end it in the World War 3 arc.

If there is a new series of Index in the future,it'll probably start as Shinyaku Toaru no Majutsu Index.
(Well that is granted that people actually buy their blue-ray,dvds,LN and manga volumes after the series had ended)

ap1001 said:
Oh god please no, if this is all their capable of, I hope they never touch NT with their slimey hands. NT3,4,8,9,10 MUST have a talented man on pare with Russo Brothers do convey them in to anime format to maintain the excellency of the source. Its not something that someone as incompetent as Nishikori can do in a thousand years.

MahiaErebeaNegi said:

Sadly, they will DO a NT adaptation with Nishikiori as the director of it after Index III is ended. This is heavily hinted in one of the interview.

Tsukumo_Yuuma said:
yeah all index seasons were rushed and there was some cuts and shit , but it has never been this rushed , just look at the trailer they will go to vol.22 that means 9 volumes to adapt and if they adapted SS2 that will be 10 , in one fuckin season , season 1 and 2 didn't do that and the anime was understandable for the anime only viewers , but now the anime viewers don't understand what's happening in the BR arc and it's supposed to be one of the best arcs in the OT now it's one of the worst arcs in the anime , they decided to fuck up in my favorite part of the LN , this season if they've done it right was going to be the best index season or atleast if they did it with the pace of the past 2 seasons , but now it's the worst season , i hate that nishikiori guy , fuck him FUCK HIM i was waiting so much for this season and now i'm so disappointed, with every episode i become more sad and disappointed for what's happening and i can't stop watching this shit i want to know what will they do or maybe it'll get better at some point :") , i hate anyone who got involved in this shit

MahiaErebeaNegi said:

You basically scum up what I thought about this season, lol.

Also SS2 will mostly likely to be ignored in this season, but since some of the contents in that novel was important and will getting mention again in Season 4/NT adaptation....... who's know?

Sir2win said:

Also way too much pointless violence and deaths. I wouldn't want to live in Academy City where thousands of deaths and mutilations occur on a daily basis making it worse than dystopia Detroit from RoboCop. Like that lady with the baby almost got blown to bits in broad daylight by the blonde girl in the pink dress. Also ppl like Toma's classmate and Last Order's bff just perform extrajudicial executions with guns now? Wut???

desgostoamargo said:
Having not read the LN's, i'm in love with this season. To me it is far better than the previous ones. I'm enjoying myself more, and I'm loving the pacing and the change of focus in characters...

desgostoamargo said:


Probably the problem is YOU. I'm understanding things and I'm having fun, and all you can do about this is accepting it. Your tastes and the way you experience isn't the same way others experience things.

Stop being rude and try to be more accepting of other ones views, buddy. Not everyone share the same opinions.

deg said:


this franchise will likely fail too since i heard the source material (light novel) have declining sales for a lot of time now so i might expect this to be the last anime season of Index too

desgostoamargo said:


Probably the problem is YOU. I'm understanding things and I'm having fun, and all you can do about this is accepting it. Your tastes and the way you experience isn't the same way others experience things.

Stop being rude and try to be more accepting of other ones views, buddy. Not everyone share the same opinions.

_Otaking_ said:

While I can understand you enjoy it and I see no problem with it. I must say in ssjokg's defense that's really difficult to think that you understood a lot of what happened just watching this. What happened with Etzali and Xochitl? How did Hamazura defeat a Lvl 5? Why Fre/nda was killed by Mugino? Let's not talk about anything related to Accel and Kaki...

hazarddex said:


honestly the biggest flaw currently in season 3.

is the lack of context they left out for some scenes.

they barely explained the twezzers.

they left out Hamazura's meeting with his old gang where he got the hand gun that saved his life by the way.

they left out the anti skill ladies connection to both protagonists of this arc which builds up her own character and views as well as why she never takes a life of a esper

however honestly i've seen worse adaptations out there *cough* tsukihime *cough*

hazarddex said:
however honestly i've seen worse adaptations out there *cough* tsukihime *cough*

MahiaErebeaNegi said:

There's no Tsukihime anime.

Also that title should belongs to UQ Holder! anime which trying to adapted 140 chapters (16 manga volumes) INTO 12 EPISODES, what's even worse that is none of the Negima!/UQ Holder! anime adaptations was even trying to follow it's source materials for MORE THAN 10 YEARS (The Negima! OVAs is the only exception of this).

Magicaburn said:
get why people are hating on how rushed it is tho.
In fact,there are multiple reasons why people prefer the first two
1.Your Tastes have changed (it's been 5 years since Index 2,some people's tastes in anime might have changed since then)
2.Nostalgia (Nostalgia might make you feel that the original series is better than the current one)
3.Time spent reading the Light Novel (many people converted to the LN after the 1st or 2nd season of Index and continued from there which means they may not realize that Index has always been heavily edited and seeing parts of the LN not get adapted into the adaptation makes you feel like you've wasted your time)
4.Pieces of the LN you were looking forward to were not included
5.People who didn't watch Railgun are confused by the characters who initially debutted
in it like ITEM and Uiharu.
6.There are a lot of things you need to remember from the previous 2 seasons (granted it's been 5 years,I'm going to assume many people don't remember some events that took place let alone the minor characters like Etzali and Awaki.)

Snaita said:
This thread again?

I don't read the LN and I watched Railgun, re-watched season 2 before this season 3. I still think that the other seasons were better than this one on every front and it's not the epic fight on episode 6 between Accelerator and Kakine that came out recently will not change a damn thing.
Animation is worse, it's a fact... even if season 3 was on the same level as the other seasons(which I think it's worst), it would mean that in 7 years they improved jack shit. The story is all over the place, you cleverly mention the only group(ITEM) mentioned in Railgun but left out the other 4-5 groups that suddenly appeared out of the blue with no background whatsoever and their members start dying in a way to make you feel for them, but cause you don't know them their deaths just feel empty. They are turning Touma into a douche, by delivering one-liners one after the other(so no longer being one-linners). Remember Terra fight? The guy who looked liked he was fighting with kitchen flour?
We have not one but two characters that died but magically appeared alive in season 3... the nun being interrogated in the beginning of season 3 was implied dead in season 2, the old academy city director that Tshumikado "killed" was alive again in the following arc... nothing liked this happened in the other seasons.
So yes, season 3 is that bad and there's no excuse because they had not 1 not 2 but 7.5 years to planned this carefully but they just didn't, even though there's was a huge fanbase waiting so much damn time for Index.

hazarddex said:


so like dream eater merry? where even the director had to apologize for how non canon the anime was?

MahiaErebeaNegi said:

I never heard that anime before lol, thought I can say that anime is even more rushed than Index III does that even skipped TWO ENTIRE STORY ARC and changing some of the story pacing causes the entire story plot make no sense at all.

The thing is the original author of that manga series itself (Ken Akamatsu) was part of the director of that anime along with Youhei Suzuki (Who also directed some of Shana III's episodes), and yet he still let all those rushed plot and fillers stuffs happened. Akamatsu himself personally think it'll will be boring if the anime just follow the manga stories (And he said it's just wasting your time for the anime follow it's source material when there's already have a manga version of it) and he wants to gives both manga fans and anime-only fans a "different" experience about the series.

MahiaErebeaNegi said:
The thing is the original author of that manga series itself (Ken Akamatsu) was part of the director of that anime along with Youhei Suzuki (Who also directed some of Shana III's episodes), and yet he still let all those rushed plot and fillers stuffs happened. Akamatsu himself personally think it'll will be boring if the anime just follow the manga stories (And he said it's just wasting your time for the anime follow it's source material when there's already have a manga version of it) and he wants to gives both manga fans and anime-only fans a "different" experience about the series.

JJT1407 said:
I just feel that they make Battle Royale arc so rushed on purpose to focus the budget on next arcs

MaceChan said:
Yeah, that happens quite often. Rushing through the source's story is a good ad for the Manga/LN after all. If you as an anime only guy liked the show you can just continue with the latest chapter/volume or even better start from the beginning. Same goes for anime-only stories. Experiencing the story in a different way, so to speak. Even though it's mostly done pretty poorly. Who may be responsible for these bad adaptions is often hard to tell, but usually they are done with the consent of the author.

For another example, Tokyo Ghoul is quite a mess, people put the blame on Studio Pierrot, even though its the manga's author who suggested to do original stories and how the manga should be adapted. JC Staff's Bakuman also derived a bit from the manga in order to focus more on it's romance, which was again suggested by the manga's authors.

Hellitself said:


The 3d background animation got WAY better. 2d character animation got a little worse. It's a tradeoff. JC has been relying more and more on 3d as of late.

Yuki_Nonaka said:
Was the last arc of index 2 even good to begin with?

hazarddex said:
interesting note apparently this season was originally going to be a reboot....>_>

Botato said:
No that was just clickbait title. From what I understood a reboot was one of the suggestions during the planning, not "what was originally intended" like a certain news site is making it sound.