Darling in the FranXX Episode 2 Discussion

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T27 said:
So that makes it okay to sexualize children..?

Depends on what you consider children. I don't consider the cast from Darling in the Franxx as children, so yeah, i'm very much ok with them being sexualized.

Uhmmmmmmmmmm first of all in the synopsis the MC is described as a BOY but putting that aside these people are 16 years old MAX and you're a 24-year-old man. You know there is a word for that right?

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T27 said:

Uhmmmmmmmmmm first of all in the synopsis the MC is described as a BOY but putting that aside these people are 16 years old MAX and you're a 24-year-old man. You know there is a word for that right?

age of consent in most places in america are between 16/17. i dont see ur point

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moodie said:

T27 said:

Uhmmmmmmmmmm first of all in the synopsis the MC is described as a BOY but putting that aside these people are 16 years old MAX and you're a 24-year-old man. You know there is a word for that right?

age of consent in most places in america are between 16/17. i dont see ur point

What? First of all, i said the max age of these characters is 16 but I seriously doubt they are. And if you don't see the problem with somebody in their mid-20s looking at a 13-16 year old in a sexual light than you've been out of touch with reality for a very long time.

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T27 said:
Uhmmmmmmmmmm first of all in the synopsis the MC is described as a BOY but putting that aside these people are 16 years old MAX and you're a 24-year-old man. You know there is a word for that right?

1. So "boy" equals "child" now? Okaaaaay....
2. "MAX"? Well that's like you're opinion man. Even if that's their age, that's not children anymore but young adults.
3. No idea what word you're talking about. The boyfriend of one of my best female friends was 29 when she was 17. They were together for about 3-4 years. To me, from about 16 years onwards, you should be able to choose whoever the hell you want for a relationship if it is consentual.

Jan 20, 2018 4:59 PM

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T27 said:

1idd0kun said:

They know what their target audience wants.

So that makes it okay to sexualize children..?

No but you probably shouldn't watch a show targeted to Japanese male otaku if you can't deal with this stuff in the first place.

Jan 20, 2018 5:03 PM

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Sweanime said:
It´s fun how everybody is so butt hurt by the piloting and your views on sexism. (flowers and sex) And you can not even be happy or say anything that the best character for this "sexist show" and for a long time against other show. Is a strong FEMALE lead and the main guy is a wimp. You have a cool strong girl that takes what she wants, kicks ass and dominate a guy more or less with a fun personality.

Even when there are strong women you find something else to cry about. :P

People need to laugh more at FICTION in life. Or you can die crying and become sad people over a fiction cartoon.

Who is the strong woman, 002? We don't know if she's really strong or just shows a strong facade to hide some emotional weakness (that's a pretty typical trope after all).

Jan 20, 2018 5:03 PM

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Everybody is about to sit here and talk about how it’s “ tropey “ when they don’t understand every character in every series starts off as some type of trope and is fleshed out into their own person . Usually when they do a mock battle for the first time the MC actually wins and this time he wasn’t even able to fight and failed miserably so the series isn’t generic .

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Jan 20, 2018 5:07 PM

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Pit93 said:

T27 said:
Uhmmmmmmmmmm first of all in the synopsis the MC is described as a BOY but putting that aside these people are 16 years old MAX and you're a 24-year-old man. You know there is a word for that right?

1. So "boy" equals "child" now? Okaaaaay....
2. "MAX"? Well that's like you're opinion man. Even if that's their age, that's not children anymore but young adults.
3. No idea what word you're talking about. The boyfriend of one of my best female friends was 29 when she was 17. They were together for about 3-4 years. To me, from about 16 years onwards, you should be able to choose whoever the hell you want for a relationship if it is consentual.

1.) Who describes a grown man as a boy?
2.) It's clear the age group is 13-16 and short of you being alive in the 750s no one would describe that age demographic as "young adults".
3.)I'm sorry that I need to be the first person to tell you this but that is weird.

Jan 20, 2018 5:10 PM

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Gorou is a very good man and a very cool Bro to the MC, so I think he doesn't deserve such a disloyal and cheating girl like Ichigo as a partner.

If I am him, I no longer want to be partnered with a girl that has no hesitations kissing another guy. Go and fucking partner with Hiro if you like him so much !!! Of course, that is if Hiro even considers you as his Darling in the first place, as Hiro seems more attracted to Zero Two than Ichigo.

I hate Ichigo for betraying and cheating on Gorou, so I hope both Gorou and Zero Two would both cooperate and do a double beat-down on Ichigo. Fuck Ichigo ! She is now the girl I hate the most in Anime. Traitorous cheater ! I hope she dies in this show !

Yeah Gorou is best bro and i have a feeling that he will die in the future (I hope not lol) same here i don't like Ichigo, Zero Two is way more superior to her.

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Jan 20, 2018 5:14 PM

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1idd0kun said:

T27 said:

So that makes it okay to sexualize children..?

No but you probably shouldn't watch a show targeted to Japanese male otaku if you can't deal with this stuff in the first place.

A fair rebuttal. But what is an "otaku"? I've seen the word thrown around before but I honestly don't even know what it is.

Jan 20, 2018 5:19 PM

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So when does Zorome die?

I think I've pretty much got the jist of Ichigo's character but she needs to back off now. Seriously she's annoying.

Jan 20, 2018 5:19 PM

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This anime seems to be like an anlogy for sex and the main character can't 'get it up'. So many phrases said this episode could be taken out of context and the way they pilot the mechs... oh jeez. Even the small mech he was using had an ass control wheel.

Jan 20, 2018 5:19 PM

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Soooo the reason why Hiro can't pilot the franxx is mainly bec. of the girls? They can't handle him

I mean looking at it...franxx can be piloted by two people.... the male will mainly take in charge of the movement while the girls will take the role of coordinating the guys movement to the franxx

and didn't the OP suggest that the franxx 002 pilot is code 000?

Jan 20, 2018 5:19 PM

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I adore how you can split every single shot in this into one of two categories: A-1 stuff and Trigger stuff. It so doesn't fit together, it comes out the other way and fits like it's glued.

I know it's bad for me and I should not like it if I value my own opinion about myself, but I want so see all of it, and pronto. It's obviously no miracle of Kiznaiver, quality-wise, but the Trigger people clearly remember that one time they've managed to trick people into thinking that Kill la Kill was deep.

Keep going, you beautiful bastards.

Jan 20, 2018 5:20 PM

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Thank goodness that this episode is less confusing than the first. I don't have much to say about this one, really. It was pretty solid and enjoyable. I just don't like how obviously sexualized the mech cockpit is.

Jan 20, 2018 5:26 PM

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Shows starting to lose me, non of the characters are interesting cept for 002, and she's only interesting cause she's a half blood. Get on with the world building.

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Jan 20, 2018 5:27 PM

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Sweanime said:
It´s fun how everybody is so butt hurt by the piloting and your views on sexism. (flowers and sex) And you can not even be happy or say anything that the best character for this "sexist show" and for a long time against other show. Is a strong FEMALE lead and the main guy is a wimp. You have a cool strong girl that takes what she wants, kicks ass and dominate a guy more or less with a fun personality.

Even when there are strong women you find something else to cry about. :P

People need to laugh more at FICTION in life. Or you can die crying and become sad people over a fiction cartoon.

Precisely. This is fiction, made in a country that has different cultural standards than our own, even if the hypersexualization is the same. Like it or not, this series is in part a coming-of-age story that uses mecha as a lens through which to view and examine romantic, emotional, and physical relationships.

And since it's fiction, I see absolutely nothing wrong with doing this.

Jan 20, 2018 5:27 PM

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Guys, Darling in the FranXX is about SEX. Yes... S E X

But is not about the simple act of carnal conjunction, is about the psichoanalisis of sex. The all concept of the mechas, is psicoanalitical correct.

Let's go by parts:

First episode is about a concept in freudian studies about sexuality called INCOMPLETNESS; the human being is incomplete, and he always will sense incomplete. To fullfill these incompletness we have desires. The first desires we have are natural, search something to eat, some place to sleep, etc... then we feel sexually incomplete. The human being does not make sex just to reproduce, he makes it for pleasure, for fullfill his sexual desires, and mostly, TO FEEL COMPLETE. Than emerges a second concept in Freud's studies: SEX DRIVE. Manking searches for sex. Sex drive leads for another drive. LIFE DRIVE. Sex is basically a force that keeps us alive.

FranXX only can effectvely work with the completude of two beings. FranXX can only operate with sex. The piloting posture of the female is purposely sexual, we are not talking about shitty fanservice, THIS IS PSICOANALYTHICAL ACCURATE! The only way to pilot the robot is being one with your partner, being one with your partner is feel complete, feel complete is making sex, make sex is literally strip your individuality, your fears, your ego and trully understand the other in the sexual mechanics. This generates LIFE. The Robot becomes ALIVE with sex.

Hiro and Zero two have made the robot alive because they literelly saw each other stripped, and also they can trully understand each other, both of them are marginalized in the shows social structure, so the robot can trully work with them both. Otherwise, Hiro cannot make the robot work with Ichigo because they are not being sincere with one another, they are nothing giving themselfs completely to each other, they are making sex in the erong way. When your thoughts are in other place than your partner it will not work, it will be a bad experience. Both of them were thinking about Zero Two, one for being attracted to her, other for being jealous about her. And you all can see the same thing happening to Zorome and Miku when he says he wants to pilot another robot... he is thinking about another partner, so it will not work!

This show is using ordinary anime tropes to speak about sexuallity with their audience. This show has an even great premisse than in the last episode. They will talk openly about sex to an audience that is not used to have sex being discussed, where sex is pereversion, is wrong. Anime, even ecchi anime are mostly chaste, they only put erotic images but almost never passes the second base! Here we have an anime talking about sex psychology as a normal subject. THIS SHOW IS BOLD.

Unffortunatly, as we can see in this topic, many don't get it. Anime viewers are so used to shows that use sex just as a glimpse, mere erotic immagery to satisfy virgin teenagers that cannot see this show has a new approach in this subject. Remember people, the guys behind it did work on Evangelion, a show all based on pure psychoanalisis; the studio behind it is responsible for Kill la Kill, that adressed nudity as a serious way, not just fanservice.

Ok, it's the second episode, it can become a circus of pure fanservice, but I think people must have an open mind about it. Episode 2 shows that the crew know what they are doing. Not was unintended. GIVE THIS SHOW A TRY!

PS: Trully great Opening and an AMAZING ending!

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T27 said:

1idd0kun said:

No but you probably shouldn't watch a show targeted to Japanese male otaku if you can't deal with this stuff in the first place.

A fair rebuttal. But what is an "otaku"? I've seen the word thrown around before but I honestly don't even know what it is.

Japanese anime fans, but that definition doesn't make the term justice because it's a lot more homogeneous demographic than western anime fans. To begin with, they're mostly male on their late 20's and early 30's and are willing to spend a lot of money on anime (note Japanese BDs are way more expensive that licensed BDs). You could think of them as compulsive fans. The late night anime market survives targeting this demographic because casual fans aren't willing to pay for their expensive BDs.

Jan 20, 2018 5:29 PM

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Wait...people is actually hating that sex symbol shit? I mean come on!! Aquarion Evol did the same thing but it was really awesome...its only 2 episode here so who knows if its gonna be awesome later and expect it to be slow since its a freaking 2 cour not just 1 cour

Jan 20, 2018 5:30 PM

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The love triangle reminds of Kiznaiver, Best girl won there (Noriko) but here Ichigo is losing hard, Zero TWO is best girl and its the complete opposite of Noriko.

No wonder the amount of Zero Two fanarts out there already and its increasing each day ( Im not complaining tho keep it coming )

The Mechas are kawaii as fuck, colorful and their faces are cute

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Jan 20, 2018 5:32 PM

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ricardo241 said:
Wait...people is actually hating that sex symbol shit? I mean come on!! Aquarion Evol did the same thing but it was really awesome...its only 2 episode here so who knows if its gonna be awesome later and expect it to be slow since its a freaking 2 cour not just 1 cour

Probably people that are new to Trigger/Gainax works/style and they don't understand it lol.

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Jan 20, 2018 5:33 PM

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This episode just made me realize why I love Gundam Iron-blooded Orphans so much the characters don't act like what they look like examples Mika,Orga, Biscuit, Eugene etc, this anime clichie as fuck at the moment smh, in fact why I am I watching this ? I should be rewatching that right now.

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Jan 20, 2018 5:36 PM

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I get hella Eva vibes from this one.

I'm not surprised. Visually and thematically this series is a lighter and softer (so far) spiritual successor to many of Gainax's best works, including Diebuster and Evangelion. All they really did was amplify the fanservice to suit, uh, "modern" tastes.

A further note to the others here. Please, for the sake of everyone else, do not spend your time wailing about how "oversexualized" this show is. If how the show depicts its characters for the purposes of its themes makes you uncomfortable, then perhaps you should not watch this show.

Remember: these characters are figments of someone else's imagination, not real people. These characters have no rights, and the show does not in any way advocate for violence against women, belittling of women, or the mistreatment of minors. Please do not treat it as if it does.

Again, if what is shown makes you uncomfortable because it does not match your cultural or moral standards, then perhaps you should not be watching this show, and your time is probably better spent elsewhere.

Jan 20, 2018 5:37 PM

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Lax_Caux said:
The piloting posture of the female is purposely sexual, we are not talking about shitty fanservice

They didn't need to show off their butts in the doggy style to make it sexual. The posture itself is meat to facilitate butt shots for the audience and for memetic purpose. In other words, it is fanservice.

Jan 20, 2018 5:40 PM

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ricardo241 said:
Wait...people is actually hating that sex symbol shit? I mean come on!! Aquarion Evol did the same thing but it was really awesome...its only 2 episode here so who knows if its gonna be awesome later and expect it to be slow since its a freaking 2 cour not just 1 cour

Probably people that are new to Trigger/Gainax works/style and they don't understand it lol.

This is mostly an A-1 show. Trigger is just helping out.

Jan 20, 2018 5:40 PM

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1idd0kun said:

T27 said:

A fair rebuttal. But what is an "otaku"? I've seen the word thrown around before but I honestly don't even know what it is.

Japanese anime fans, but that definition doesn't make the term justice because it's a lot more homogeneous demographic than western anime fans. To begin with, they're mostly male on their late 20's and early 30's and are willing to spend a lot of money on anime (note Japanese BDs are way more expensive that licensed BDs). You could think of them as compulsive fans. The late night anime market survives targeting this demographic because casual fans aren't willing to pay for their expensive BDs.

Oh okay thanks for the info.

Jan 20, 2018 5:41 PM

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Lax_Caux said:
Guys, Darling in the FranXX is about SEX. Yes... S E X

But is not about the simple act of carnal conjunction, is about the psichoanalisys of sex. The all concept of the mechas, is psicoanalitical correct.

-snip-

PS: Trully great Opening and an AMAZING ending!

Finally, someone gets it!

This is why I said it was Evangelion-lite, and the spiritual successor to that show as well as Gainax's other prominent works. It does for romantic and sexual relationships what Evangelion did for interpersonal relationships and dealing with the other, as personified by Shinji Ikari, Asuka and Rei as the Id, Ego, and Super-Ego respectively.

Jan 20, 2018 5:42 PM

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It's basically porn. Probably'll drop this in a week or two.

Jan 20, 2018 5:43 PM

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Taking one girl kiss and still cant do shit , damn hiro. Ichigo affection toward hiro’s gonna be a trouble later. I think it will grow jealousity and endanger her and her partner in the battle and it gonna cost her
Ah and the way they piloted it , that position.... ugh....

Jan 20, 2018 5:45 PM

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Tsunagaremono said:
It's basically porn. Probably'll drop this in a week or two.

There's a difference between being a second iteration of a show, and being its spiritual successor--that is, taking up some or many of the same themes, concepts, and sense of universe.

On the other hand, if you want to drop it because you think that it's "porn," that's perfectly fine. You won't be missed.

Jan 20, 2018 5:45 PM

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So far...

I generally like this series, I think it has potential, and so far it's done a okay job of creating question so you want to learn more about the plot. I'm generally curious which way they are going to take this storyline. I feel like it could turn dark in the later end of this season, however, I have an irrational fear of it being a drama filled nightmare and the studio get too caught up with the fanservice. I would like to see some bada** fights, I would like to see the plot expand (that includes cast deaths), I want to see this entire universe expand.

Episode 2:
- God, this MC.... Please, oh, please, give my main man Hiro some balls ASAP, or some reason to like him and him be worthy for 002
- 002 is still best Waifu
- I think 002 is hiding some really messed up shit, but we will see
- I also think 002 and Hiro have met or have some hidden connection (that is pretty evident)
- The piloting.... Oh... The piloting, Trigger need some chill...
- Okay episode, not as exciting, but faith is pretty high, decent world/background building

Jan 20, 2018 5:47 PM

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This series is nonsense, the sex metaphors mean the girls who had more than one partner are effectively sluts (since the co-piloting thing seems akin to sex). Characters are unbearable, mechs look stupid, drama is dumb. Dropped.

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Exeterna said:
Taking one girl kiss and still cant do shit , damn hiro. Ichigo affection toward hiro’s gonna be a trouble later. I think it will grow jealousity and endanger her and her partner in the battle and it gonna cost her
Ah and the way they piloted it , that position.... ugh....

I really don't understand why everyone is making a big deal out of this. It's fiction, for crying out loud, and it's flatly tame compared to what's appeared in shows like Gantz, Moonlight Mile, Evangelion itself, Diebuster, Kill la Kill, Manyuu Hikenchou, Ikkitousen, and other such shows.

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This series is nonsense, the sex metaphors mean the girls who had more than one partner are effectively sluts (since the co-piloting thing seems akin to sex). Characters are unbearable, mechs look stupid, drama is dumb. Dropped.

Looks like we've hit peak 2018 already, ladies and gentlemen. If this is what passes for serious argument or opinion-postulating, then we truly are doomed.

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firemagnet said:

Finally, someone gets it!

This is why I said it was Evangelion-lite, and the spiritual successor to that show as well as Gainax's other prominent works. It does for romantic and sexual relationships what Evangelion did for interpersonal relationships and dealing with the other, as personified by Shinji Ikari, Asuka and Rei as the Id, Ego, and Super-Ego respectively.

YES, THAT'S IT. I am so happy that this show is discussing it. I just pray to the screewriters keep it in mind. The potetential is huge!

Jan 20, 2018 5:49 PM

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firemagnet said:

Exeterna said:
Taking one girl kiss and still cant do shit , damn hiro. Ichigo affection toward hiro’s gonna be a trouble later. I think it will grow jealousity and endanger her and her partner in the battle and it gonna cost her
Ah and the way they piloted it , that position.... ugh....

I really don't understand why everyone is making a big deal out of this. It's fiction, for crying out loud, and it's flatly tame compared to what's appeared in shows like Gantz, Moonlight Mile, Evangelion itself, Diebuster, Kill la Kill, Manyuu Hikenchou, Ikkitousen, and other such shows.

Im not making a big deal . But it just feels weird for me . I rarely watch mecha

Jan 20, 2018 5:52 PM

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God I am in love with this show as its everything I wanted it to be, Something on another level of stupid taking itself so seriously just doesn't happen enough

Jan 20, 2018 5:53 PM

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Exeterna said:
Taking one girl kiss and still cant do shit , damn hiro. Ichigo affection toward hiro’s gonna be a trouble later. I think it will grow jealousity and endanger her and her partner in the battle and it gonna cost her
Ah and the way they piloted it , that position.... ugh....

I really don't understand why everyone is making a big deal out of this. It's fiction, for crying out loud, and it's flatly tame compared to what's appeared in shows like Gantz, Moonlight Mile, Evangelion itself, Diebuster, Kill la Kill, Manyuu Hikenchou, Ikkitousen, and other such shows.

Faederwulf said:
This series is nonsense, the sex metaphors mean the girls who had more than one partner are effectively sluts (since the co-piloting thing seems akin to sex). Characters are unbearable, mechs look stupid, drama is dumb. Dropped.

Looks like we've hit peak 2018 already, ladies and gentlemen. If this is what passes for serious argument or opinion-postulating, then we truly are doomed.

To me it looks like you just can't deal with the fact not everyone agrees with you.

Jan 20, 2018 5:54 PM

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Dude, if you have nothing to add just stay silent. He is entitled to voice his opinion.
Your random pointless reply is just sad.

Pot, meet kettle.

A dumb onliner that misses the point. How surprising.
You are the one being stupid, don't drag me down to your level just for educating you.

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Jan 20, 2018 5:58 PM

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Exeterna said:

firemagnet said:

I really don't understand why everyone is making a big deal out of this. It's fiction, for crying out loud, and it's flatly tame compared to what's appeared in shows like Gantz, Moonlight Mile, Evangelion itself, Diebuster, Kill la Kill, Manyuu Hikenchou, Ikkitousen, and other such shows.

Im not making a big deal . But it just feels weird for me . I rarely watch mecha

This is actually a better explanation than what you posted before. Yes, one can say that this show is hypersexualized. However it's not doing it merely for fanservice. As @Lax_Caux correctly pointed out, there's a layer of psychoanalysis going on underneath the surface, with the universe these characters inhabit being used as the lens to discuss romantic concepts, concepts of desire (sexual and otherwise), as well as what it means to "become an adult."

When Hiro says that he couldn't accept Ichigo, he isn't just talking about this in a sexual way. Remember that they bonded mentally as well. He's rejecting her because while she gives him that initial rush, aspects of her mental makeup left him feeling "chained to the ground."

Remember, these characters are pilots who form an intimate emotional, physical, and intellectual relationship through the context of their machines. Their very success relies on them being able to complete each other or find in the other something they desire or don't otherwise have.

Jan 20, 2018 5:58 PM

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firemagnet said:

Tsunagaremono said:
It's basically porn. Probably'll drop this in a week or two.

There's a difference between being a second iteration of a show, and being its spiritual successor--that is, taking up some or many of the same themes, concepts, and sense of universe.

On the other hand, if you want to drop it because you think that it's "porn," that's perfectly fine. You won't be missed.

So the sense of universe are actually vulgar sex metaphors and sluts? Made me laugh. Random harem title would be more deep than this.
I will not miss this show either.

Jan 20, 2018 6:01 PM

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The 'over confident kid', 'worthless boy', 'jealous childhood friend', 'over entitled claptrap girl'. - sigh -

The unnecessary and forced drama, it hurts.

Please, don't go down that road...

Suddenly, someone slaps you with a brick wall.

Jan 20, 2018 6:07 PM

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1idd0kun said:

firemagnet said:

I really don't understand why everyone is making a big deal out of this. It's fiction, for crying out loud, and it's flatly tame compared to what's appeared in shows like Gantz, Moonlight Mile, Evangelion itself, Diebuster, Kill la Kill, Manyuu Hikenchou, Ikkitousen, and other such shows.

Looks like we've hit peak 2018 already, ladies and gentlemen. If this is what passes for serious argument or opinion-postulating, then we truly are doomed.

To me it looks like you just can't deal with the fact not everyone agrees with you.

I'm not offended by him disagreeing with me. I can handle that perfectly well, thank you. I'm more dismayed by what passes for "informed rejection" of a show here. The analysis and opinon-formulating is shallow, and his was by far the most shallow and unreasonable I've yet seen. Almost no-one here has made any actual effort to see what the show is trying to say through its characters, fanservice aside, and appreciate it in that manner. Instead, we have flavor-of-the-day screeching about how "this is bad because it doesn't match my morals" or [insert modern political western political/ideological trend here].

SMH. Zero critical thinking demonstrated by upwards of 80% of the commentariat on here.

Jan 20, 2018 6:08 PM

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I always dislike when shows apparently don't have the concept of kissing, yet people awkward about it. If kissing doesn't mean anything in this universe, why are they so shy and nervous about it? Still enjoy this anime a lot.

Ichigo should mind her own business, and that other bully short dude is annoying, I kind of enjoyed seeing them fail this episode.

Jaywalker.

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