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Nov 25, 2017 4:11 AM
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Others are still searching for the main girl and saw coup d'état happening.

So the people w. bird face mask are with that main bad guy and KajiKaji's character seems to work for him, too.

Though acting separately, the team think for the same goal, to save the queen.

The loyal guy seems to know the lady with armor, who seems to work under a certain person. That loyal guy seems to have a certain mission and she gave him something.

Wow, the thief guy copying the queen's voice well (well, I'm guessing the queen's seiyuu does this part).

Oh, so both the main girl and KajiKaji's character are not humans. Both are part of that bad guy's "Code:Realize" plan, which is bad.

The queen agrees to fight along to save her London. The loyal guy came to the main girl and is honest about his mission.

The preview shows the scenes not fighting for next ep. Rest / preparation before the final war?
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Nov 25, 2017 5:30 AM
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> I am not a monster!

Seems Cardia developed quite a bit both physically and mentally. This series is using her character to a degree that I find inspiring.
Nov 25, 2017 5:54 AM
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Wow! That was one really well made episode, maybe even the best from the start until now. So many things happened and so many things were explained but it wasn't confusing and builded up nicely.
OMG! At last Saint G opened his eyes!
Nov 25, 2017 6:09 AM
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...and why didn't Van at least try to shoot Finis right after the Twilight mob he picked off, exactly?

Oh, yeah... Plot armor. :-/ We can't take Finis down in episode 8. That would be too soon.

I also love how Lupin "deduced" that Victoria was still in the castle just because Twilight were looking for her. *sigh* idk why I'm so critical of this particular episode. Normally I can watch anime without imposing the reality and common sense onto it, but I guess I failed this time.
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Nov 25, 2017 6:22 AM
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kyoudai said:
...and why didn't Van at least try to shoot Finis right after the Twilight mob he picked off, exactly?

Oh, yeah... Plot armor. :-/ We can't take Finis down in episode 8. That would be too soon.

I also love how Lupin "deduced" that Victoria was still in the castle just because Twilight were looking for her. *sigh* idk why I'm so critical of this particular episode. Normally I can watch anime without imposing the reality and common sense onto it, but I guess I failed this time.

You are right but... it is not plot armor. Just unexplained plot from the game ;)Look at the manual 😂
Nov 25, 2017 6:45 AM
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faye said:
kyoudai said:
...and why didn't Van at least try to shoot Finis right after the Twilight mob he picked off, exactly?

Oh, yeah... Plot armor. :-/ We can't take Finis down in episode 8. That would be too soon.

I also love how Lupin "deduced" that Victoria was still in the castle just because Twilight were looking for her. *sigh* idk why I'm so critical of this particular episode. Normally I can watch anime without imposing the reality and common sense onto it, but I guess I failed this time.

You are right but... it is not plot armor. Just unexplained plot from the game ;)Look at the manual 😂

The manual? I've not played the game.
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Nov 25, 2017 7:18 AM
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Wah! Germain opened his eyes, meaning shit just got real. xD

Pretty good episode overall and I'm glad they explained the base of what Code Realize is but my question is why Cardia's Dad came up with such a plan.
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Nov 25, 2017 7:59 AM
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kyoudai said:
faye said:

You are right but... it is not plot armor. Just unexplained plot from the game ;)Look at the manual 😂

The manual? I've not played the game.

Nah, that is a trope type
http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/AllThereInTheManual
Nov 25, 2017 8:06 AM
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faye said:
kyoudai said:

The manual? I've not played the game.

Nah, that is a trope type
http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/AllThereInTheManual

Ah, I get what you're saying now. Wasn't familiar with the trope.
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Nov 25, 2017 8:31 AM

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Cardia is developing more and more each episode. Saint-Germain finally opened his eyes. His mission is to kill Cardia to fulfill his destiny as a disciple of Idea. Finis is getting a lot more annoying.
Nov 25, 2017 9:33 AM
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So Saint is a member of another secret organization of Idea.... okay.

This show has poor writers
Nov 25, 2017 10:40 AM
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Ok, so both Finis and Cardia were not human, so , in what way were they connected to this "Code: Realize " thing?????
Nov 25, 2017 10:55 AM

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I'm kind of disappointed with this show tbh. It turned out pretty mediocre.





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...the s u n, the m oo n, and the tr u th.


Nov 25, 2017 12:45 PM

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Saint Germain needs more screen time

but glad that Cardia isn't (that much) like most of the heroines of otome-game-based anime; she started off quite plain (which kinda fitted the plot), but she's getting some character development now
Nov 25, 2017 1:20 PM
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Another great episode. Love how Cardia is developing into a strong character. But when is Lupin going to confess his love for Cardia that's what I'm waiting for.
Nov 25, 2017 1:58 PM

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Cardia was probably the best out of this episode... I'm so sorry but it really feels like I didn't enjoy this episode as the previous ones. From experience I know it is bad to compare the anime to the VN but I was a lot more excited during the game. Eventhough the time you reached Lupin's route you know most of the story every second isa trhill. I didn't feel it with this episode. It was still alright but lacking something important (and I don't even know what, it's just my feeling...).

I really hope it gets better next time. The ending of this episode wasquite promisin ^^. With Saint... However... I hate Finis. Even more than in the game. There I had at least a tiny bit of sympathy for him (just very, very tiny!).
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Nov 26, 2017 9:31 AM
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Looks like things are starting to get real then with Twilight at last making their love. Its nice to see the rest of the group worry so much about Cardia though. So this is how the siege began then a coup sponsored by Twilight. So key to this mystery lies within the enemies heavy fortified base then. So apart from Twilight there's also one other organisation that acts in the shadows that oppose them then. Idea sure was an interesting name. The palace sure fell quickly to the traitors from within. Code Realize is a doomsday plan for the world huh. I guess England was just the first step of that plan. Man Finis is determined to have Cadia be the destroyer though. But this sure was an action packed episode. Coups do indeed create strange alliances after all.
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So how many chapters of the game did they cram into this?
Sigh, again, so much wasted potential. If only, IF ONLY this had been 2 cours and had been given to competent staff.

But again, Otomate doesn't care...
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So how many chapters of the game did they cram into this?
Sigh, again, so much wasted potential. If only, IF ONLY this had been 2 cours and had been given to competent staff.

But again, Otomate doesn't care...


There are 13 Chapters in the game.
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meg2541 said:
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So how many chapters of the game did they cram into this?
Sigh, again, so much wasted potential. If only, IF ONLY this had been 2 cours and had been given to competent staff.

But again, Otomate doesn't care...


There are 13 Chapters in the game.


And how long is each chapter? Watching this anime I feel that a lot of things were crammed in.
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They always use Coup d'état as a tool for disruption strategy...
Cardia's Knight are always on the nick of time! haha!
4/5.


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phoenixalia said:
meg2541 said:


There are 13 Chapters in the game.


And how long is each chapter? Watching this anime I feel that a lot of things were crammed in.

Each chapter is very roughly an hour. So that is compressed to 20 minutes in the anime.
A whole playthrough without skipping would take around 11 to 13 hours depending on speed of reading. Until now the anime has covered... I think until the 9th chapter? That is with lots of skipped info and scenes.
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phoenixalia said:
meg2541 said:


There are 13 Chapters in the game.


And how long is each chapter? Watching this anime I feel that a lot of things were crammed in.

14 chapters with the prologue. Each one is around 1-2 hours, depending on your reading speed.
Actually, this episode is decent, they only adapted one chapter and the pace was alright. The previous one was a mess though, they literally crammed two chapters into one episode and cut out so much important to the plot scenes.
Not the worst otome adaptation I've seen, but game is great and definitely deserved better.
Nov 29, 2017 5:34 PM
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goddamit, such wasted potential. The awful voice acting apart, the main character is just a boring "huh?huh?huh?" waifu with zero personality. Then you have the crew, a generic edgy-but-nice guy; a genius that doesn't make shit and talks like a kid; a fucking retard with a shit voice acting and even shittier design ( holy fuck, that engineer suit... ); a noble full-of-money that will probrably be the plot-twist device of the season; and the classic nice and gentle thief that steals the young maib heroine's heart just by being cool. I will skip Dracula beacause it is probrably one of the worst vampires i've ever seen in any media ( even by jp standards ).

It took me long, but this is definetely a drop.
Nov 29, 2017 7:30 PM
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The problem with this series is the rhythm and the changes!
Nov 30, 2017 8:58 AM

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Hahaha Lupin is a genius XD The way that he made a fool of those traitors imitating the queen's voice was very priceless! Good one :3

Saint? What do you mean you came to kill Cardia? D: What is going on?!
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I don't believe Saint will kill Cardia...
Dec 10, 2017 11:23 AM
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Cardia is in shock after the hards words of her "brother"!!! :/
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I KNEW IT, I knew that it was odd that Saint was the only one not to get a episode just for him, like the others. I knew it, and now this!

Why Saint why?!
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Lupin & Cardia gets more interesting each episode.
Daddy wants incest to destroy the world.
Kinda like Finis' annoying face.
Guen of Idea is a major mystery still. Protect history? Did this turn into sword boys?
Oh Saint opened his eyes...cliffhanger.
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Finis is so damn annoying. Van the low-key knight in shining armor of the gang ftw.
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kyoudai said:
faye said:

Nah, that is a trope type
http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/AllThereInTheManual

Ah, I get what you're saying now. Wasn't familiar with the trope.

Sorry for the bump.

As mentioned above the anime let out a lot of things that were important to understand why Van didn't shoot there. There were several instances it should've been hinted as well but for some reason they left out that "mystery". Not sure if they'll hint towards it later in the anime..

But it should've been mentioned in at least the following scenes:

- When Cardia went to look in Isaac's archive after winning the documents.


- Resurface of Finis in the last couple of episodes.


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This has really been shaping up the past couple of episodes. I haven't been this invested in a reverse harem storyline since Hakuouki. Yuki Kaji's performance is so on point with Finis's treachery.
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The revolution arc could have been interesting and dark, but actually its just boring.
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...and why didn't Van at least try to shoot Finis right after the Twilight mob he picked off, exactly?

Oh, yeah... Plot armor. :-/ We can't take Finis down in episode 8. That would be too soon.

I also love how Lupin "deduced" that Victoria was still in the castle just because Twilight were looking for her. *sigh* idk why I'm so critical of this particular episode. Normally I can watch anime without imposing the reality and common sense onto it, but I guess I failed this time.
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...and why didn't Van at least try to shoot Finis right after the Twilight mob he picked off, exactly?

I was about to write the same. That scene was really hilarious. Like 'Oh, he has no gun and doesn't want to follow us,so I don't shoot him, I'm not a villain after all,I'm just a FREAKIN VAMPIRE KILLLER!'

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