UQ Holder
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| good adaptation of source material. but still call main event of first episode BS, yes you can seal one of strongest and oldest magus in existence with that bracelet which is probably based on "new" magic. sorry i don't buy it. if it was so easy to seal and kill monster class magus, who would fear them. @greed2 there is original negima which is quite good adaptation but they made unique ending so all ep beside last 2 are based on manga. than there is spin.off NEO no connection to manga. and at end there are few ovas/odas which are fateful to manga but they adapt random parts of manga all over the time line so not useful to non manga reader. only way to get full story is manga. |
jack4sOct 4, 2017 11:32 AM
| Thats way more violent than the previous series ? I watched 6 episode of Negima! (SHAFT) and then dropped it. This one is way better than anything from the previous series |
thepath said: I watched 6 episode of Negima! (SHAFT) and then dropped it. This one is way better than anything from the previous series Of course it's way better because these Negima anime adaptation isn't even bother to follow up the manga story properly and the Negima anime was god awful compared to the manga version. |
MahiaErebeaNegi said: thepath said: I watched 6 episode of Negima! (SHAFT) and then dropped it. This one is way better than anything from the previous series Of course it's way better because these Negima anime adaptation isn't even bother to follow up the manga story properly and the Negima anime was god awful compared to the manga version. No it wasn't? It was the same. Negima's manga didn't get any interesting until like 150 chapters in. Of course the anime wouldn't go that far, so the anime was just as good as the manga for early Negima. |
| I should probably finish reading the negima manga, I'm only halfway through. I hope I won't get spoiled to much by watching this LUL |
WTFProoF said: However, the pacing was all over the place in this one, the whole introduction of characters and their relations and the reason why Touta and Yukihime have to skip town all seem so rushed to me (is it the same in the manga?). This is unfortunately an issue with the manga as well. Much of UQ Holder does come of as rushed, what should be major developments are achieved and over with very quickly. If you think this was rushed, in the manga Touta doesn't even have a reason to want to go to the top of the tower when he starts heading for it. Yukihime's loss in itself is also rushing, there should be no way in hell that random dude could take her no matter the gadget. Valaskjalf said: I should probably finish reading the negima manga, I'm only halfway through. I hope I won't get spoiled to much by watching this LUL UQ Holder will spoil the living crap out of you if you haven't read Negima. I highly suggest you finish it before delving into UQ Holder. |
RindelOct 5, 2017 7:22 PM
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thepath said: Thats way more violent than the previous series ? I watched 6 episode of Negima! (SHAFT) and then dropped it. This one is way better than anything from the previous series Definitely more blood due to the fact UQ Holder is about immortals. You get to see them show off the abilities and obviously by doing so, they do so by showing they can't die. Vampires are one of the examples. As for the Negima anime, you're not watching the right one. Shaft has 2 different adaptions, the alternative series not based on Mahou Sensei Negima and OVAs/movie based that are based on it. Sadly, you'll not understand everything if you jump into the OVA's since they adapt the last fraction of the series and not the beginning. Example, here's a scene from the OVA with Negi fighting Evangeline, the same girl we see in this episode in her regular form. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qbfSgu9yJKY |
TitanAnteus said: MahiaErebeaNegi said: Of course it's way better because these Negima anime adaptation isn't even bother to follow up the manga story properly and the Negima anime was god awful compared to the manga version. No it wasn't? It was the same. Negima's manga didn't get any interesting until like 150 chapters in. Of course the anime wouldn't go that far, so the anime was just as good as the manga for early Negima. How is the anime same as manga? That's only first 16 episodes is similar to the manga with some plot changes and they butchered the story arc and character background afterward, for example: Sayo's background story, Kyoto Arc was cut to only 2 episodes when the manga at least have 20+ chapters, Kotaro never appear in the anime even though he is suppose to shows up in Kyoto Arc, Negi vs Fate fight was butchered, Asuna's "death" when she is STILL alive in the whole manga, and the whole "Magic Cancel power are given by the Demons" BS filler story. And also he is talking about the season 2 where the story was CHANGED COMPLETELY unlike the season 1. Rindel said: in the manga Touta doesn't even have a reason to want to go to the top of the tower when he starts heading for it. Isn't the reason why Touta want to go the the tower are already explained in the chapter 2 of the manga? |
MahiaErebeaNegi said: Isn't the reason why Touta want to go the the tower are already explained in the chapter 2 of the manga? It's not really his goal as much as it is supporting his friend's goal because he doesn't have one of his own. There was no spirit telling him to go there either in the manga, the anime added that in. (Presumably to specifically avoid having an aimless protagonist for ages like the manga had.) |
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| So I didn't watch the past season or the ovas But God I loved this ep and I loved the blonde vampire this may be my aots I am so happy i got a new good echi/fantasy/supernatural /(harem maybe) anime because we didn't get one of those in a while and I got the vibes of kizumonogatarI |
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jack4s said: but still call main event of first episode BS, yes you can seal one of strongest and oldest magus in existence with that bracelet which is probably based on "new" magic. sorry i don't buy it. if it was so easy to seal and kill monster class magus, who would fear them. Evangeline isn't one of the strongest. While she is genuinely scary, she just doesn't have the raw talent and power really powerful people in Negiverse have. In particular, she is the kind of mage that stands back and prepares big spells, while her minions protect her from melee attacks. Also, since that bracelet doesn't seem to be a Pactio artifact, it probably has a finite power and Eva could have powered through it, removed it or something if her assailant gave her enough time for that. She did got rid of the bracelet after the MC fell unconscious, right? greed2 said: Which anime is the manga based on? I have seen Negima! (2005 version) but that is obviously not based on the manga. UQ Holder is based on Mahou Sensei Negima manga. Accept no substitutes, it is likely to not mesh with any anime-original ending all those adaptations have. But if you really want a substitute, this one is passable: https://myanimelist.net/anime/157/Mahou_Sensei_Negima . Just ignore the ending - it never happened, okay? |
flannan said: Evangeline isn't one of the strongest. While she is genuinely scary, she just doesn't have the raw talent and power really powerful people in Negiverse have. In particular, she is the kind of mage that stands back and prepares big spells, while her minions protect her from melee attacks. Prior to UQ Holder she was literally the third strongest thing in the entire Negimaverse, unrivaled by even the fourth(Rakan). Only Nagi and the Lifemaker were stronger. Present time UQ Holder, she's 5th strongest at worst. Probably fourth. Nagi ~ Lifemaker > Negi ?>? Evangeline ~ Fate Saying Evangeline isn't one of the strongest is a flat lie, she casually soloes the entire Cosmo Entelecheia brass, whom individually were comparable to Rakan. |
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Rindel said: flannan said: Evangeline isn't one of the strongest. While she is genuinely scary, she just doesn't have the raw talent and power really powerful people in Negiverse have. In particular, she is the kind of mage that stands back and prepares big spells, while her minions protect her from melee attacks. Prior to UQ Holder she was literally the third strongest thing in the entire Negimaverse, unrivaled by even the fourth(Rakan). Only Nagi and the Lifemaker were stronger. Present time UQ Holder, she's 5th strongest at worst. Probably fourth. Nagi ~ Lifemaker > Negi ?>? Evangeline ~ Fate Saying Evangeline isn't one of the strongest is a flat lie, she casually soloes the entire Cosmo Entelecheia brass, whom individually were comparable to Rakan. Okay, that must have happened later in UQ Holder, because in Mahou Sensei Negima she wasn't at this level. Mahou Sensei Negima spoilers: |
| I didn't plan on watching this coz I plan to read both Negima and UQ Holder, seen Negima anime, but then I heard that hot blonde is Evangeline She's always been the best girl, definitely watching this |
flannan said: Okay, that must have happened later in UQ Holder, because in Mahou Sensei Negima she wasn't at this level. Mahou Sensei Negima spoilers: Did you not read the last half of Negima? TsundeReaper said: I didn't plan on watching this coz I plan to read both Negima and UQ Holder, seen Negima anime, but then I heard that hot blonde is Evangeline She's always been the best girl, definitely watching this Do yourself a massive favour and read Negima first. You'll end up regretting it if you do it the other way around. |
RindelOct 10, 2017 12:41 AM
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Rindel said: flannan said: Okay, that must have happened later in UQ Holder, because in Mahou Sensei Negima she wasn't at this level. Mahou Sensei Negima spoilers: Did you not read the last half of Negima? I must have forgotten those parts. It was years ago, after all. |
Rindel said: Do yourself a massive favour and read Negima first. You'll end up regretting it if you do it the other way around. I know man, I know that UQ is the sequel of Negima |
TsundeReaper said: Rindel said: Do yourself a massive favour and read Negima first. You'll end up regretting it if you do it the other way around. I know man, I know that UQ is the sequel of Negima You seemed like you knew but had decided to go for UQ Holder first anyways. Was only trying to help~ |
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Rindel said: You seemed like you knew but had decided to go for UQ Holder first anyways. Was only trying to help~ I told you, I've seen Negima anime way back (not that abomination by shaft) |
And I told you that I know that. I got the impression that you had decided to watch UQ Holder ahead of reading the manga anyways because you saw Evangeline was in it. I wasn't advising it because I thought you didn't know it was a sequel, I was advising it because I thought you were underestimating what you'd miss out on if you didn't read Negima first. And again, I was just trying to help but I misunderstood you. Sorry for that. |
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| damn that was gory |
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Rindel said: And I told you that I know that. I got the impression that you had decided to watch UQ Holder ahead of reading the manga anyways because you saw Evangeline was in it. I wasn't advising it because I thought you didn't know it was a sequel, I was advising it because I thought you were underestimating what you'd miss out on if you didn't read Negima first. And again, I was just trying to help but I misunderstood you. Sorry for that. Its alright man I understand, And yeah I already heard a lot of chapter was skipped, I completely and fully know it, Negima being only 25 eps despite manga having over 300+ chapters, and now they make a sequel that's also skipped a lot of chapters, JC staff for ya lol that's why at first I decided not to watch UQ but then I heard Eva is Yukihime so I'd watch this, I wanna see more of Eva |
| <3 that the negima series is back been to long since the lackluster ones, only the ovas kept my spirits up |
| Finally it's here. From the moment the episode started I was already getting teary eye'd from Eva's monologue. I had to come to grips with the fact that all the Negima characters I know and love, are gone. I kept telling myself "keep it together man, keep it together". ... and then the opening started... and it was Happy Material Return. I started crying for real. Goddamnit I can't hold all these feels!!! I think that's a new record for an anime making me cry. Only took 3 minutes XDXD |
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| I loved the vampire, but the story of the protagonist was very simple, dry, I also hated his dubbing and personality. Another boring shounen. |
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| It wasn't too bad I guess. I read about half of Negima a first chapters of UQH and I'm baffled kinda by the name 'Konoe'. Was Konoka his grandmother then? And did she marry Negi or someone else (when Negi is his supposed grandfather)? Seeing Eva again was nice though. And if this story turns out to be road movie sortof, it shouldn't be bad either. Well, there would be probably more connections with previous Negima after they reach the elevator. They surely didn't animate the openening flashback for nothing. It's nothing special, certainly, but I give this few more episodes to see how it turns out. |
Mich666 said: It wasn't too bad I guess. I read about half of Negima a first chapters of UQH and I'm baffled kinda by the name 'Konoe'. Was Konoka his grandmother then? And did she marry Negi or someone else (when Negi is his supposed grandfather)? Seeing Eva again was nice though. And if this story turns out to be road movie sortof, it shouldn't be bad either. Well, there would be probably more connections with previous Negima after they reach the elevator. They surely didn't animate the openening flashback for nothing. It's nothing special, certainly, but I give this few more episodes to see how it turns out. Friendly reminder to anyone browsing this thread to not answer these questions. It would be spoilers. |
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| so, they are starting with the negima flashback? way to ruin the surprise. Still, i am glad they kept the original seiyuu from the original cast. Hmmm... when i read th manga, i always thought Touta would have a more masculine voice. |
Rindel said: berserker75 said: and that negi ghost is what bothers me the most I think that the producers is trying to summarize or give hints about the prequel cause a lot of people didnt watch the negima I think they added in ghost Negi to give Touta a more concrete reason to want to go to the top of the tower. The manga spent way too long having him either have no goals or no good reasons for the goals he did try for. i don't think its a ghost & think its him trying to contact him in that alt world Negi's world is in the other site & the tower is gate to hes world that's my theory thepath said: Thats way more violent than the previous series ? I watched 6 episode of Negima! (SHAFT) and then dropped it. This one is way better than anything from the previous series not to mention ecchi to lol |
| Oh my lord, can we can an anime adaptation for Mahou Sensei Negima with this production quality? The art looks so clean.. The beginning of the episode reminded me of how sad the first few panels of UQ Holder were, but it's all downhill from there on, as I was reminded by the rest of the episode as well. Eva's character imo got butchered in her "adult form". The pace was terrible, I barely felt anything in this episode, events go by so quickly there's no time to truly absorb everything that just went down. Otherwise, this adaptation is looking good, though I doubt it could make me like UQ Holder again. Ken dropped the ball by not making MSN 2 and instead making UQH with a different protagonist. |
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| whaaat, I thought Evangeline supposed to be strong as fuck. watching her rendered powerless is just hurt. Eva adult form looks hot. |
| Not that bad I guess 3/5 |
| So Touta is the grandson of Negi, but we don't know who is his grandma. Though just from the prequel alone it should be pretty obvious. Damn, Eva's new form looks sexy as hell! |
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