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Sep 17, 2017 5:22 AM
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Oh boy, a rebellion.

As usual, the villians in this show is very stereotypical to the point that their goal is something you'd find in almost any type of this show. In some ways, it felt like a buildup episode with the strategic planning.

I do expect the finale to hopefully wrap this up without any rootless stupidity. Hell, even Eleanor has a fighting spirit so maybe she'll play a more important role than just being in the background.
Sep 17, 2017 6:33 AM
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So an intense fight this episode and it looks like next episode we will have an even more intense fight going on.
This could be interesting.
Anyway it even seems the queen is interring combat tho it's questionable if she actually adds something to the fight, at least her personality improved a bit.
Sep 17, 2017 9:24 AM
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They started off with a big battle, though it ended at a draw.

Eleonore is acting more of a leader now. She didn't hesitate when she was ordered to retake the capital.

One more episode till it ends. Seems like they will end it with a huge fight.

Sep 17, 2017 9:41 AM
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This finale is going to be lit
Sep 17, 2017 9:41 AM
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So Ernie is planning to use help of "plagiarize" airship for the final showdown huh? That should do the trick.
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Sep 17, 2017 9:45 AM
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This episode was awesome and we saw how silver order struggle for the first time.Damm now final fight is not boring but full with excitement
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Sep 17, 2017 10:03 AM
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The battle ended as draw. It was quite intense. The drake battleship is very strong. Ernesti had a hard time fighting it. Eleanor has joined the fight now. The finale is going to be good.
Sep 17, 2017 10:21 AM
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I wonder how long it took them to design and build the drake. It seems like that would have taken months, yet it's already fitted with jet thrusters. I do wonder how much time has passed between battles. There doesn't seem to be any form of electronic communication. At most the ships and drake use pipes to give orders around. That means it takes a while for them to get messages back and forth between the capital and front lines. While the drake is powerful and likely faster then any air ship, it doesn't know where it's target will be and can only make educated guesses.

I do like the idea of attacking the capital while the main forces are away. The drake can't defend it and the royal family if it's off on the front lines and they likely can't recall it if attacked. As powerful as the drake battle ship is it still needs a place to land for repairs and resupply. The only thing is there isn't another unit as strong as the Sliver Phoenix to do it.

It was nice to see the battle end in a draw for once. So far it's really just been one side overpowering the other. There was always a clear winner. Even a close victory would have been nice to see. This time both sides lost to much to keep fighting.
Sep 17, 2017 10:48 AM
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Looks like we're going to have one final climactic battle to finish off the series. Should be entertaining.
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Sep 17, 2017 10:53 AM
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@Master_Geass IIRC in LN they said it was build long ago but was too heavy to fly. Only after witnessing Eru magic jet thrusters it was finished and could finally fly. Personally disappointed that they used disruption of magic jet thruster using saltpetre and not Low Orbit battle with engines overwhelmed by amount of ether in atmosphere.
Sep 17, 2017 10:55 AM

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For almost never fight on air Eru skill as pilot are good.

Final battle for this season will be decide the future mecha dev to either humanoid mecha vs flying mecha and warship.
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Sep 17, 2017 11:56 AM

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@agni666 So he basically wasted a huge chunk of his R&D budget on something he could never really get working. It seems like he would have gotten some flack for that. Still it would have taken him a while to build and retrofit the thrusters onto it.
Sep 17, 2017 12:56 PM

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Big Battle before the Ultimate battle.
This final episodes adressed the main problem I had with most of the anime: Ernesti's mechas were always too powerful had no match.

Zaloudek's Drake was impresive It's a Zoid, lmao

But Ernesti's words at the end were on point: If the Drake destroys Ikaruga, the whole world will realize the hoy silly is to use humanoids with weapons and how a big plataform with tons of firepower is more effective war-wise.

But for the Sake of the mecha genre, Ernie has to defeat it with his masterpiece mecha.
Sep 17, 2017 12:57 PM

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You know what, this anime is allot of fun. Yeah its super fast paced, but im never bord and the Mecha designs are cool. Its far exceeded my expectations and id totally be on board for a second season.
Sep 17, 2017 12:58 PM

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They fight to a draw, the princess with the offensives plan and now the final battle.
Eru plans to destroy any hopes of other weapons overtaking mecha XD
Sep 17, 2017 1:07 PM

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Buildup episode which leads into the final. The fights were pretty good so far, so I'm expecting quite a bit.

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Sep 17, 2017 1:15 PM

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Looks like Nora and D ending up together might happen afterall.
Sep 17, 2017 1:49 PM

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Interesting stuff. Enjoyed this episode for its action. Its a nice idea that the battle will decide if airships or mech will be the future weapon platform for this world.
IDK about that though, since they don't really fulfill a similar role
TBH, A flying mech is probably better than a giant airship. Or a small flying craft is better in general. Get a magius jet mech with misshire missiles and you got a modern fighter jet. It have heavy firepower, faster and more agile than the airship. Its also most likely cheaper and easier to build.
Its like the battleship versus aircraft carriers. And Aircraft carriers win.

A more threatening platform to existence of a mech would be wheeled or tracked vehicles. A smaller, simpler and faster platform compared to a mech. It can be armored much better due to a simpler shape and can operate in very soft grounds.
Sep 17, 2017 2:13 PM

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I'm over this anime...it was an alright anime throughout but it just always fell short of my expectations...one episode left and at least it will give us some decent action even if the story will finish off being garbage
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Sep 17, 2017 2:19 PM

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Vaguely entertaining episode but like Lord of A I'll be glad when this is over.
Sep 17, 2017 4:04 PM

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The enemy had a few tricks up their sleeve in that first battle, very crafty of them to use that sort of tactic to ground Ernesti.

Looking forward to round 2 next time, should be a really good final episode.
Sep 17, 2017 4:29 PM

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Crashmatt said:
You know what, this anime is allot of fun. Yeah its super fast paced, but im never bord and the Mecha designs are cool. Its far exceeded my expectations and id totally be on board for a second season.
my sentiments exactly. it was all about mecha fun for me and i appreciated the fast pace because the more plot and political machinations skipped, the more time for mecha development and action. it's easy to contextualize the action or even the upgrades because it's a story that has been told countless times before.
that's the sad part about having only 1-cour to work with on mecha. either the action or the story is hurt with less episodes. but seriously, this has got to be the mecha show with the most number of upgrades per episode number, at least it's unique in a way.
Sep 17, 2017 4:38 PM
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The Finale and the final battle is next week and Hype yo ^_^ the battle between a Regular Size Mech vs a Battleship type will end next week and whose Engineer is better . Love ernestie's view of how a Normal Mech design should look and how he prides him self not to make a Battleship one cause many countries might copy the Battleship and become a Regular weapon use for a war and make a Simple Mech be forgotten and he wants to prevent that from happening.
Sep 17, 2017 6:01 PM

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Is there more of the light novel to adapt?

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Sep 17, 2017 6:11 PM

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so the battle is a draw huh. So their gonna do the final battle next episode. and I really want Ernie to destroy that Drake. First time to see the silver knights struggle. Ernie need to up his game.
Sep 17, 2017 7:23 PM
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The problem I have with this anime is that the part where he actually struggles comes far too late. They literally only have next episode to wrap things up and it'll probably just end up as "Ernesti struggled but managed to defeated the evil Zaloudek. The end". Everything else has been far too smooth of sailing, made things just boring.

I would actually prefer that the anime end with Ernesti being defeated yet again but only narrowly and the war grinds into a deadlock and it ends with both of them looking forward to their respective sides' victory, etc.

No happy endings but also no tragic ones either. Just the idea that this is only the beginning.
Sep 17, 2017 7:26 PM

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Drake: Gahhh, we've been hit!

Eru: An opening! Let me charge in and do nothing until they recover and shake me off!

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Sep 17, 2017 11:34 PM

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Drake: Gahhh, we've been hit!

Eru: An opening! Let me charge in and do nothing until they recover and shake me off!

(◔_◔)

actually he did use the time bought by his allies to fanboy- ehem I mean look at the Drake's design to figure out how to take it down and steal it
Sep 18, 2017 3:33 AM

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@Fortress_Maximus yes, but current translation is at exact same spot as anime, but good news we finally got jap translator for LN, so we will soon get past anime. current release rate about 1 ch per week and as you know LN chapters are quite long.

what do you expect from 2x battalion rank mana engine, also that ship has 13 mana engines and a lot of personnel. on side note when he is flying he has 1 mana engine for flying and one for all else, but on floor he has both engines for combat use.
Sep 18, 2017 7:37 AM

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So they want me to believe ernie did no fancy changes on his mecha for 6 months?
Im not buying it.
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Sep 18, 2017 10:49 AM

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I don't accept the relationship of the Queen and Archid ;-; Ernesti >>> all. Let's see how this anime will be concluded. This is the first mecha I like.
Sep 19, 2017 12:28 PM
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Man that mecha dragon is huge. Naturally the enemy would want to get revenge for their prince though but i never expected them to use such a mecha though. Trying to take on the drake while minimizing civilian casualties will be hard though. It seems Ernesti has finally met his match in terms of mecha combat then. Its funny that Ernesti has his own robot code of how they should be employed though. That drake though sure has impressive firepower and maneuverability though. The contrast between Ernesti's dual with Dietrich though is interesting. The sword fanatic sure though sure is determined to beat Dietrich though. Its nice that Dietrich has developed so much from the person that he was in the past. The fight between them though really is interesting though. So Ernesti's prediction on the ether reactor was spot on then it seems. It seems that Gojass also had plenty of backups in place to deal with Ernesti should he survive the initial battle. Man that was a rather close battle that Ernesti and his allies fought there though. Though the battle itself was a tie the shock that it provided to Ernesti, his troops and to the loyalists as well must have been immense. Ernesti and his orders first ever defeat eh. A bitter pill for sure.

Gojass never cases to amaze me with his intellect though. Power is always a double edged sword but if the general insists then this is what he gets. Looks like the swords saints loss is actually his gain since he gained a new mecha as well. With the enemies momentum recovered in the last battle it seems the tide is starting to turn back as well. The battle council though sure was interesting though. Its nice that they try to anticipate the enemies next moves though. Hmm Eleonore really surprised me at how brave she has become though. Her idea while crazy is just like her though. An all out offence on the capital sure will be the last thing that the enemy will expect though. The queens speech really was strong and shows just how much she has changed as well. Their determined assault on the capital seems to have been the best plan and its nice to see the fight go so well. Nora seems to have found her home leading the commando units in the Silhouette gears though. But it looks like the battle also attracted the attention of the drake as well. To think that Ernesti also came up with a mount for his mecha as well though impressive. Can't wait to see what will happen in the final battle though.
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Sep 22, 2017 12:00 AM

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ok nice the enemy is also something .... ernesti go for robot' sake
Sep 23, 2017 7:52 PM

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I'm really hooked-up with this series! I hope there would be a new powerful villain so that it would have S2!!!
5/5.


Oct 15, 2017 12:42 PM

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damn Eleonora's speech was pretty cool, i had to listen to it at least 5 times =D

finale coming next, let the fun begin =D
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Nov 14, 2017 9:54 AM

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Great episode, and I'm really looking forwards to see how this anime is going to end!
Nov 15, 2017 9:18 PM

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Isadola so cute.
Holy shit! Helvi oppai about to pop out.
Dat ending.
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Those were both interesting fights, on the ground and in the air. Those four will one up each other's opponents again on the next and the last episode.

Well at least princess uhmm the queen is not spineless and indecisive anymore which makes her less annoying.

He foresees much but I don't think he can stop people innovating into bigger, faster, higher, more powerful, more creative and also more destructive technology (he cites battleships and cannons). As a mecha fan myself it is almost blasphemous to say this...that his beloved mecha (and mine as well) will go with the dodo too once those bigger, faster, etc. tech comes up. Once the genie is out of the bottle, it's out for good!
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Jan 1, 2021 7:23 AM
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Oh yeah so now time for the final battle
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Knight's & Magic is one of those stories where I'm actually rooting for the bad guys because they're the only characters with real challenges to overcome. The main characters' struggles feel fake and artificial because the story has no real stakes for them and that removes the story from any kind of dramatic tension it would otherwise enjoy.

Just one more episode and I can finally move on with my life.
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You know, on rewatch, how did Kojass know about the exact name of the Magius Jet Thruster? It's not like it was tech that was captured u like with the airships...
Oct 28, 2023 9:42 PM

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Oratio accuses Ernesti of plagiarizing his airship, when his own countrymen are guilty of pilfering and copying the Telestales which Ernesti designed. I suppose that makes them even now.

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