Simple, they overdid this way too much... menma died at a very young age which makes it more easier to move on, not act like that.. I stopped caring when I got to this part... Basically, OP, what you need to do is, try to kill your friend and think what it feels like to lose your friend. |
| It gave me feeeeels and that's all that matters!1!!! - literally every fanboy on this series. |
| Seriously saying this. If you didn't feel bad about poor Menma and all the others, except Poppo, you are heartless and lame. There is nothing stupid about it, age doesn't make it easier to forget about someone dear that dies. |
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| i agree that the series is overly dramatic and stupid, but i won't start by insulting the characters' feelings after one of their best friend (and crush) died. |
| Menma is literally my most hated anime character for god know how many years now. Never wanted to strangle a fictional character so badly in my life before. |
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Excaliburrrrr said: Ulquiorra said: Seriously saying this. If you didn't feel bad about poor Menma and all the others, except Poppo, you are heartless and lame. There is nothing stupid about it, age doesn't make it easier to forget about someone dear that dies. I did mention I felt sad that menma died. But in the end they moved on, that was the anime all about, seeing that they had a lot of trouble moving on when they lost a dear friend and that dear friend appeared again and made them remember their friendship and that they have to let go, but never forget of course. It's not that weird to be depressed for many years you know, some people never get past one depression. And considering how she died it's normal that they all felt responsible for it, all played a small part in her death, especially Poppo if you ask me, the least he could have done is call for help. |
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Barrys said: Ulquiorra said: Seriously saying this. If you didn't feel bad about poor Menma and all the others, except Poppo, you are heartless and lame. There is nothing stupid about it, age doesn't make it easier to forget about someone dear that dies. I cried for Kimi no na wa, it's not that i'm heartless, i just think this is an unbelievable social situation, i can't put myself in these characters's shoes, thus i can't feel bad at all. (also add the fact that i don't understand how somebody could like Menma). She is cute, she is funny, she has everything she needs. From my perspective Kimi no na wa was more a comedy than a drama, when they switched bodies, nothing more, the drama was really lame. If you ask me, it's a lot faster to see a ghost than to text and switch bodies with someone who died and sort of travel through time to save them, that drama was forced upon us, and it didn't have any feeling to it. |
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| Don't be sorry, the show IS stupid. The premise isn't that bad, but the way they wrote it is plain retarded. |
| Be thankful for the wisdom granted to you. |
| AnoHana is the most overrated anime existing in MAL. I don't see "sadness" and such, to me is a bunch of assholes crying in every episode for no reason. They lost a friend okay but it looks like a bad version of some bad mexican tele-novela is very melodramatic and Menma is annoying as fuck. |
| This thread is just a circle-jerk for haters, lol. |
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| i got into it only for naruko, that's all there is |
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| it's one of my favorite anime, but i never found it that sad and i never cried |
Onii-chan said: Crying over anime? haHAA Sorry, but crying for anime or cartoon is lame for me. My sincere apology for being rude but that's what I think. Just stated my opinion about this. I can't bring myself to shed a tears over this so-called "bittersweet" anime. But, doesn't mean this anime is bad. The plot is decent. The story told us how difficult to moven on from the incident when our dearest friend(s) passed away, friendship and how to leave (move on) the past behind. Eventhough Poppoo is a fucking moron and I can't feel sorry how fucked up he is. The comedy is okay, especially the crossdress scene that gave me the biggest LUL. About how hard Jintan's group to move on, I can understand how difficult it is. Lost my grandma a year ago and I still can't get over it. Everytime I visit my old house where my grandma used to live, always makes me remember how she cared about me when I was a child. Get back the point. The reason is the same as what Ulquiorra explained. Losing someone you hold dear will be leaving a big scar that can't heal over a day and if it doesn't get treated well it will last forever. Actually, it depends how strong your mentallity is. Unfornately, mine is not that strong. I need time to heal my mental/psychological wounds. Why is it lame though? |
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| I would actually listen to what you had to say if this was an actual criticism and not an utterly useless rant. |
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| Believe it or not, I know a boy who had to be taken to a couple year of psychotherapy after witnessing his best friend die from an accident while they were playing in the swing of their school playground when he was around 7 or 8. Believe it or not, childhood trauma isn't always something that heals over time. Childhood trauma is something that could grow into a bigger monster, a more serious mental condition if not treated correctly. In Anohana, it is obvious that Jintan was going through a serious depression, thus becoming a hikikomori. It may not be as severe as with the rest of his friends, but what they experienced has traumatized them for they believed that they all played a part in Menma's death. Going back to the events, Anaru and Tsuruko have connived to open this particular discussion about Jintan and Menma. Yukiatsu pushed Jintan to answer their question. Poppo taunted them and added pressure to the situation. Jintan ran away from embarrassment that caused Menma to run after him. In addition, Poppo probably saw menma fall off the cliff and saw her dead body lying there while he wasn't able to do anything to help her. Their guilt and regret has haunted them since. They all believed that Menma wouldn't have died if they all hadn't done what they did. And it was extra hard for Jintan since his mother has died just very recently before Menma's accident (or was it after? I no longer remember). If you think these are all petty reasons to be depressed about, and if you think it is stupid for someone to not get over a childhood trauma, I must say, you are an idiot for ranting about something you clearly have no knowledge of. You are taking the situation lightly simply because you have no idea how common it is for mental health issues to be triggered by childhood traumas. I'm sure you're aware about the mental health issues in this series since you mentioned that they're crazy and that they needed to be taken to a mental hospital. Yes, it is obvious that the Super Peace Busters needed medical help. In a case like this, a person with a heart and good morals, or simply a person with a brain should either sympathize or at the very least, just keep his stupid opinions all to himself. Dude, when you learn that a person is suffering from a mental illness, you don't go around calling them stupid or idiot. You either pray for their recovery, or just shut the fck up if you don't have anything nice to say. Imagine when a person going through depression has read or heard your lack of sympathy. Your very statement could lead them to thinking that what they're going through is just as petty as you say. It could lead them to devaluing their lives that could trigger them to committing suicide. Yes, it may sound absurd, but that is how frail a person with mental illness is. And triggering a mentally unstable person to suicide is just as horrible as murder. In case you're not aware, mental illnesses are just as bad as any other health condition like cancer or heart disease. Calling a person stupid or idiot for being mentally unstable is like calling a cancer patient stupid or idiot for growing tumors. Telling a mentally disturbed person to "MOVE THE FUCKIN ON" is like telling a person having a heart attack to move on and forget that he's having a heart attack. Do you realize now how epically stupid your post is? Hate to break it to you but if there's anything or anyone that exhibits stupidity at its finest here, it's not the series Anohana. It's you. Yes. You are ridiculously stupid for thinking that trauma or depression easily heals over time. You are ridiculously stupid for calling mentally disturbed people stupid and idiots just because they can't move on as you please. Pure stupidity. Stupidity at its finest. Yes, that's you. You will never know when a person is fighting an inner battle, and you'll never want to know how horrible it is to be caught into one, so have sympathy and be kind. If you can't, just shut the fck up. It's what I always say whenever I get into a stupid argument like yours, and it's so frustrating knowing that in this modern day where science has brought a huge advancement to understanding mankind, and information about almost everything can be easily accessed through so many ways, ignorant people like you still exists. Gees, you're unbelievable. |
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ItsNootNoot said: Do you ever see an anime without characters shouting in front of everybody? Even in the streets & cities! That's just fucking normal in anime are u really that dumb? Anime are movies. You can create non-realistic stories. There's Mushishi, Monster, etc. They don't need to be over dramatic to have an impact to the viewers. |
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| quien no conoce clannad a cualquier anohana le reza |
| The loss of a loved one is hard for everybody of any age. |
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| Yeah it was a bit ridiculous & Menma wasn't even likable lol. Overrated anime overall. Didn't care about most characters (although Anjou was great, deserved better than the MC anyway). |
isu-j said: i got into it only for naruko, that's all there is Understandable, she is by far the best girl after all. |
GoesWithTheWind said: I have mixed feelings on this series. When I was 10 my best friend died and it was genuinely one of the worst things I've ever gone through. On paper, I should have been able to relate to what these kids were going through (I even looked a lot like Jinta when I was his age.) But I had a few problems with this anime that may or may not be justified. I do understand that everyone deals with grief differently. No child should ever deal with the loss of a close friend. Yet I didnt feel like anyone's reactions were justified at their age. If I remember correctly they were 6-7 years old when Menma died, and this show takes place a decade later. Which means they've had ten years to process her death, which they experienced as toddlers. The fact that everyone seemed (feel free to criticize me for not completing the show but I was getting too frustrated and angry) to be so weighed down about her feels absurd to me, since real human children can move on. It's not like she was any of their parents or close sibling where the living children would be able to feel her lack of presence throughout their lives, she was just a friend they knew as kids. Please don't take this line as me being cold and heartless, since her death truly was tragic. But I don't think she was that important or special to the kids to have this level of impact, which leads me to my second problem. AnoHana makes Menma the best and sweetest and most important girl to have ever lived, and her death the worst experience of all time. I don't really have an argument here, this just annoyed me. All in all, I think AnoHana handles the topic of childhood death incredibly immaturely They have every reason to be depressed over Menma's death for they all believed that they played a part in it, that Menma wouldn't have died if they hadn't done what they did (try checking my earlier post for a more elaborate explanation). They were all so young, they didn't know better. They believed it's their fault, so they grew up blaming themselves for it. 6 to 7 years old isn't a toddler any longer. These are already thinking children, innocent and frail that can be easily influenced and affected by this sad cruel world. When I was 5, I got chased by a dobermann, and believe me, I'm in my 20s now and I never got over it. I still freak out whenever I see a huge intimidating dog coming my way. And (as I've mentioned already in my earlier post), believe it or not, I actually know a boy who had a couple year of professional help after witnessing his best friend die from an accident. In reality, when a child experiences a traumatic incident such as this, it is best that they get professional help, or at least be helped by their parents to pull themselves away from the wrong thoughts that could have formed in their minds from such experience. This may be an odd example, but you know how in some parts of the world, there are these farmers who grow square-shaped watermelons (google it, if you're unaware)? For the watermelons to turn to square, they put a square-shaped container on it while growing so the watermelons will take after the shape of that container. Loosely, that's how the minds of these young innocent children works, too (and not only children, even some adults as well). Young minds are like watermelons, and every experiences they get are like that square-shaped container that shapes them to becoming whatever person they will be. Our minds take shape after our experiences. But sadly, in Jintan and his friends' case, nobody told them that what happened wasn't their fault, that what they believed in was wrong. They never had any professional help, and probably not even their parents were aware of how they truly felt about all of it, and how affected they have been from it. Do you still think the level of impact they had was unreasonable? Also, excuse me, but I need to call you out on your statement: "real human children can move on". Hell no. Not all. That is one of the most ignorant arguments I have ever heard (and I say that not to attack or demean you, really. I'm just stating it matter-of-factly because that's what that statement is matter-of-factly). If we go by your argument, then there should be no mental institutions, no mental health studies, and no mentally ill people, for if every human (child or adult) can easily move on as you say, or as predictable as you imply, then 100% of the population of this world must have a sound mind. But no, that's not the case. Mental health studies exists, mental institutions exists, because mentally ill people exists. Because not everyone is fortunate like you who can easily move on from a traumatic experience. Because every mind works differently (you claimed you know this, but the whole of your statement says otherwise). Every person walks a different path. The human mind is unpredictable so you don't get to say that a person should be okay after a decade of processing a traumatic experience. Believe it or not, some even get to live in their old age and die without being able to get over from an incident that happened many years back. The human mind is gazillion times more complicated than just easily moving on, as you put it. So please, please, understand and remember all these so you can refrain from making such insensitive and ignorant statement ever again. Of course, the incident in Anohana is bizarre, it's fiction after all, but not really that impossible. I have a family who suffered from mental illness. At a very early age, I became aware of how seriously affecting every traumatic experiences can be no matter how small or insignificant they may seem, thus, I get very sympathetic and protective over stories like this. Believe me, human minds are unimaginably complicated and unpredictable. It can turn to every bizarre case possible. Hard to believe, but it's actually happening. Science backs it up, you know. And you don't have to experience it firsthand (let's hope to God not), or anything serious like that just to be aware of it. Simple googling will suffice. You have time to watch anime, so maybe find time to read to be aware of the more significant things that goes on in this world, at least...? Well, just a suggestion, but whatever. |
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Skittles said: Menma is literally my most hated anime character for god know how many years now. Never wanted to strangle a fictional character so badly in my life before. very late here... there is a certain girl with glasses in the manga/anime, Koe no Katachi...... |
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