JoJo no Kimyou na Bouken: Diamond wa Kudakenai Episode 25 Discussion

Avizanski said:
first jojo episode i disliked, truly disliked (disclaimer before you get triggered, i didn't read the manga or care that any problems with this episode are also in the manga, when you're adapting something to a different medium you should have the ability to fix any problems the original material may or may not had) on with the bitching

Okuyasu was stupid as hell letting Kira's dad escape, i mean fucking braindead.

Star platinum the world could have saved them not only before they were trapped in the room (as soon as danger arose they Jotaro could have taken them immediately out of the room)

and when Kira's dad escaped Jotaro could AGAIN used star platinum the world to grab him and re-trap him.

the one liner was kinda shit, it was a cool setup with very weak payoff

and the ending was rushed, as there was practically no tension.

MonkeyDMike said:


Ok,let me help you with your complaints.Firstly,Okuyasu is always a braindead idiot,but this is his character he didn't do something out of character and even Koichi was getting fooled by Kira's dad,because of his claustrophobic nature.Secondly,you fail to understand AHF's power.When the camera shoots,the place,which is being shown in the photo is a visible,but different dimension.You cannot enter or escape,if the stand user lurks in the photo.Also,the user might move inside the photo easily,regardless of the timestops,but this is mostly an assumption.Thirdly,how stopping time for 2-3 seconds can help you catch a flying photo.Jotaro didn't know,where the photo was,when it escaped and when he found it flying,he couldn't catch it.Remember Star Platinum is a close-ranged Stand.2-3 seconds are just not enough.Fourthly,yeah I agree,but JoJo is famous for its stupid quotes and punchlines.Fifthly,I agree it was a little rushed,because they were running out of time so they had to skip some content.There was tension,but it could have been handled better.

Avizanski said:


>Okuyasu is always a braindead idiot

but they didn't enforce that recently, also he never did anything THIS stupid. also after mocking koichi for the very idea, he comes and does the same thing he mocked koichi for.

>Secondly,you fail to understand AHF's power.When the camera shoots,the place,which is being shown in the photo is a visible,but different dimension

that is completely and utterly irrelevant to the fact that jotaro at least SHOULD have tried to use it, at least TRIED to escape. im not saying he would could or should have been successful in his escape attempts, fucking philistines.

>Thirdly,how stopping time for 2-3 seconds can help you catch a flying photo.

HE CLEARLY HAD A CHANCE TO GRAB IT, also. 2-3 seconds? not in my JoJo

Benphyre said:
I foresee the wife working together with her Kira in future. she seem to have an inner beast living inside her

Avizanski said:

>Okuyasu is always a braindead idiot

but they didn't enforce that recently, also he never did anything THIS stupid. also after mocking koichi for the very idea, he comes and does the same thing he mocked koichi for.

>Secondly,you fail to understand AHF's power.When the camera shoots,the place,which is being shown in the photo is a visible,but different dimension

that is completely and utterly irrelevant to the fact that jotaro at least SHOULD have tried to use it, at least TRIED to escape. im not saying he would could or should have been successful in his escape attempts, fucking philistines.

>Thirdly,how stopping time for 2-3 seconds can help you catch a flying photo.

HE CLEARLY HAD A CHANCE TO GRAB IT, also. 2-3 seconds? not in my JoJo

Avizanski said:
>Nah, you are not getting it at all.
Okuyasu IS stupid. It is stressed times and times again. His brother said it, his enemies said it. Even HE recognizes to be dumb. Araki can't design him with donkey ears and a shirt with "Idiot" written on it to make it more clear. He is dumb, period. He has occasional glimpses of intelligence, but those are very very rare.

dude, i'm talking about the show, they probably enforce it a lot more in the manga and say it a lot more, establish it more with more focus on his extreme stupidity with more thought bubbles about his mental retardation, but IN THE SHOW, a medium that's supposed to adapt the material so it stands on it's own without the manga, i think you're mixing between them in your head, because i didn't read the manga yet, and there were not really many instances of enemies calling Okuyasu a retard, or him EVER doing something this stupid, he might be stupid, i'll give it to you that he isn't smart but he isn't a hypocrite.

>About Jotaro, you are misunderstanding that character as well. Jotaro is extremely calculating, as he already showed when fighting in the tailor's shop. He doesn't do ANYTHING without contemplating accurately the situation. Also, using Za Warudo is very tiring for him, therefore he avoids it unless it's absolutely necessary. He probably realized very quickly that they were blocked, therefore he avoided wasting energy by trying something useless.
It's not even 2-3, but 1-2 seconds. Jotaro himself stressed it several times. He cannot do it longer as he did in Stardust Crusaders anymore, because he didn't train for a long time, therefore he's out of shape.

DUDE, Jotaro's current motive for being there is the bow and arrow, he tells jouske "jouske, be careful!" then seeing him taking the arrow. you can't not see how this is wrong in any way not to use za wordo right? he isn't tired, he didn't use za wordo in many hours and didn't even try it. it feels like "the bird forgets to fly" moment, and it's shit writing/directing.

Avizanski said:
>Nah, you are not getting it at all.
Okuyasu IS stupid. It is stressed times and times again. His brother said it, his enemies said it. Even HE recognizes to be dumb. Araki can't design him with donkey ears and a shirt with "Idiot" written on it to make it more clear. He is dumb, period. He has occasional glimpses of intelligence, but those are very very rare.

dude, i'm talking about the show, they probably enforce it a lot more in the manga and say it a lot more, establish it more with more focus on his extreme stupidity with more thought bubbles about his mental retardation, but IN THE SHOW, a medium that's supposed to adapt the material so it stands on it's own without the manga, i think you're mixing between them in your head, because i didn't read the manga yet, and there were not really many instances of enemies calling Okuyasu a retard, or him EVER doing something this stupid, he might be stupid, i'll give it to you that he isn't smart but he isn't a hypocrite.

>About Jotaro, you are misunderstanding that character as well. Jotaro is extremely calculating, as he already showed when fighting in the tailor's shop. He doesn't do ANYTHING without contemplating accurately the situation. Also, using Za Warudo is very tiring for him, therefore he avoids it unless it's absolutely necessary. He probably realized very quickly that they were blocked, therefore he avoided wasting energy by trying something useless.
It's not even 2-3, but 1-2 seconds. Jotaro himself stressed it several times. He cannot do it longer as he did in Stardust Crusaders anymore, because he didn't train for a long time, therefore he's out of shape.

DUDE, Jotaro's current motive for being there is the bow and arrow, he tells jouske "jouske, be careful!" then seeing him taking the arrow. you can't not see how this is wrong in any way not to use za wordo right? he isn't tired, he didn't use za wordo in many hours and didn't even try it. it feels like "the bird forgets to fly" moment, and it's shit writing/directing.

Cliff_Jumper66 said:
...25 episodes in and you didn't realise Okuyasu was a dumbass?

Avizanski said:
IT WAS FUCKING OOC AND LAZY WRITING.

Avizanski said:
1. Stopping time for one second wouldn't have changed shit.

2. If you couldn't figure out that Okuyasu is borderline brain dead by now, then maybe you shouldn't watch TV. His ENTIRE CHARACTER is about being a giant blithering idiot.

1. star platinum is that fast, and it would be about three seconds, also, seconds (as established in the series) are far longer than real life seconds

2. list three things before that moment, (that he did in the show) that was half as retarded as that

Dragonage2ftw said:
1. No. It wouldn't have been 3 seconds. Jotaro said in the BEGINNING OF THE FUCKING PART that he can only stop time for one second now. Time moves the same as it does here in the Jojoverse, it's just that it's hard to adapt time into anime. Stopping time wouldn't have done nothing, especially when it can actually kill Jotaro.

2. Thinking that Tonio's food was okay to eat.

Letting Akira get away.

Smashing his head with plant pots in his fight with Josuke.

Avizanski said:


i'll concede to two of these things, Kira* get away wasn't half as retarded as the letting the dad go
as for the other two i don't remember or honestly care

about 1. STAR PLATINUM CAN CATCH BULLETS, BULLETS! also, in the rat thing or whatever it was more than one second, and if it was. one jojo second is like five in the real world. so it was plenty.

Maldj said:
Ugh I hate this trope with this guys wife (being better than the guy he replaced). Especially since she's falling for him. I hope she dies a painful death

Junipermouse said:

Why can he only stop time for a second, now? Not sure if I missed something. Do they explain it later, if they do I can wait. I've been binging the series and I'm hooked.

Volthoom said:
Any muscle will weaken if you don't use it after a while. Jotaro stopped using time stop, because unlike DIO, he doesn't have regenerative abilities, and putting stress on the heart isn't a good idea.

In Part 6 Jotaro's time stop goes back to Part 3 levels, but Star Platinum's durability goes down.