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Sep 26, 2016 7:22 AM
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Well that was a thrilling finale to say the least

Naegi and co actually aiming for some hope? Munakata was pretty badass imo and it's about damn time they made a counterattack. Some good fun entertainment for the finale, literally. Hell, even Junko is watching events unfold herself lol. All those memories of despair though.
Sep 26, 2016 7:28 AM
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:| That was a disappointing episode. I'm not sure what I was expecting, but certainly not that. The last bit where Junko goes, "Well not like it matters to me, I'm dead anyways", lmao Junko.

Hopefully Asahina survives and Mitarai gets shot, but yeah. Pretty meh ep. Specially for a finale ffs. Hopefully Kibou is 10x better.

Also that after credits scene was best scene ever hahahaha.
Sep 26, 2016 7:30 AM
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The lady introduced the brainwashing video to the old guy and lied to him that she didn't watch it.

Old guy's video message. The animator guy created hope video to brainwash everyone into "hope". The old guy created the "game" to lure animator guy to use it, whether or not he's in it or not?! His ability is brainwash video (after what happened to Zetsubou-hen?), which was his NG code, and he finally used it to the soldiers who came to the rescue.

The lady and despair girl watching them through movie theater screen together?! With oral summary of both arcs. Ishida-san's character and team to the rescue.

This arc also continues to Kibou-hen.
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Sep 26, 2016 7:31 AM
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I'm expecting drops in the ratings now. Well, that's my personal opinion anyways.

Togami though!
Sep 26, 2016 7:34 AM
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Now I feel despair...
Sep 26, 2016 7:35 AM
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Manecleis said:
I'm expecting drops in the ratings now. Well, that's my personal opinion anyways.

Togami though!


I certainly dropped it severely. Was going to give it an 8 before I watched this episode. 6 now. It was a jumbled mess with terrible story telling. This isn't okay for a finale. It's as though they went "It's okay! Everything will be extremely well done for Kibou so we can half ass this!"
Sep 26, 2016 7:37 AM
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this is stupidest ending i have ever seen in my life.
video of hope? just stop.

and tbh, tengans plan was stupid. making the ff kill themselves so mitarai could use his video????
im sure you could found a more peaceful way with a little bit of thinking.
...at least we got based weedman.

such despair..
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Sep 26, 2016 7:38 AM
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So... We can conclude that Mitarai is the mastermind then. Damn his previous reactions keep throwing me off whenever I suspect him

Wasn't really looking for anything else other than the question of who's the mastermind in this episode so I wasn't really disappointed. Don't know about the rest.
Sep 26, 2016 7:44 AM
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If Munakata dies - and there's a probability that he does, given the context - I will be really annoyed. Because that's like two relationship arcs that would be for naught. It's bad enough that the Seiko/Ruruka/Izayoi arc ended up with their deaths, but if Munakata/Yukizome/Sakakura meet the same fate, that's just a waste.
Sep 26, 2016 7:50 AM
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Man, this forum is filled with disappointment. It's making me depressed. I just want to know what will happen next. At this rate, Hope Side may as well not completely answer all of our questions and disappoint us (not me) more.

How long do you guys think Hope Side will be?
Sep 26, 2016 7:50 AM

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I'm hyped for Kibou-hen now! I want to see how everything is going to end D:
Now waiting for the subs to get a better grasp of what is going on XD

(That Junko scene tho hauhaeiuhuaihieuh)

Sep 26, 2016 7:51 AM
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Can anyone please tell me where I can stream this episode #sorry for the bad grammar
Sep 26, 2016 8:02 AM

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I DONT KNOW WHAT HAPPENED

>SIDE HOPE
>DONUTS IS RIP
>HOPE BRAINWASH TECHNIQUE
>PERSONA WILL SACRIFICE HIMSELF TO SAVE NAEGI
>KIRIGIRI IS POTENTIALLY ALIVE

What else?
Sep 26, 2016 8:18 AM

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Mitarai can't do things right once in his life?
Sep 26, 2016 8:32 AM

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equanternal272 said:
So... We can conclude that Mitarai is the mastermind then. Damn his previous reactions keep throwing me off whenever I suspect him

No, Tengan is the mastermind. Mitarai is only a tool/method of Tengan.
Tengan made this whole game and called Mitari to come so that it would push Mitarai to brainwash the entire world to get rid all of the despair in the world.

This isn't Despair vs Hope, but Hope vs Hope.
Sep 26, 2016 8:33 AM
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Umineko reference lol.
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didn't watch it yet but

is togami ok?
Sep 26, 2016 9:07 AM

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didn't watch it yet but

is togami ok?


yes he is

Anyway pretty wtf ep tbh. All that Kibou video Mitarai stuff was ridiculous lol
And the Tengan ping pong shade was too much. Make up ur mind goddammit. Now he's shady now he's not now he's shady now he's not XD

Monaca actually in space LMAO

And the Junko and Chisa recapping scene...I don't know how to feel about it. I guess it's nice to have a confirmation they're dead at least.

Honestly Munakata was best boy in this series. I started off not really caring much about him but now he's awesome. Dat dual blade scene was epic

What took the cake was definitely HINATA IZURU!!!!!!!!!! Just 2 seconds at the end of the ep and I fangasmed. He REKT lots of bitches

I'll wait for Kibou to completely judge this.
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Ana said:
kawaii-despair said:
didn't watch it yet but

is togami ok?
more than ok ;--) he comes to save the day in the post-credit scene

oh my god I can't believe my wish actually became true
i'm so proud of you toga ;;
Sep 26, 2016 9:22 AM
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equanternal272 said:
Man, this forum is filled with disappointment. It's making me depressed. I just want to know what will happen next. At this rate, Hope Side may as well not completely answer all of our questions and disappoint us (not me) more.

How long do you guys think Hope Side will be?


Hope side is just ONE EP. I was pretty disappointed in this ep cuz I waited every minute for this, but the TRUE FINALE is on Thursday (it's slotted in the same airing time as despair arc; that's why there's only 11 eps, not 12 eps to despair arc) on the hope side, so now I'm hyped again:)
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Sep 26, 2016 9:24 AM

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Manecleis said:


Mitarai can't do things right once in his life?


Yes. The entire killing game in Danganronpa 3 is just a stall until Animeman finally realized his mistakes in the past and to make him less useful in this shitfest of an anime. Honestly, if you removed the part with Seiko, Ruruka and Izayoi episodes, the entire plot wouldn't even change, unless the Cure W somehow is used on Kirigiri. But overall this show is terrible. Fuck this shit.
Sep 26, 2016 9:44 AM
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I hope that Sonia, Fuyuhiko, Soda and Akane are with Hajime/Izuru because it would bother me if he is the only remnant of despair to appear in Hope Arc.
Sep 26, 2016 9:50 AM
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What Mitarai is doing is wrong because as Munakata pointed out, even if negative feelings are removed from people you can't call them humans anymore. He's not removing pain, sadness and suffering, he's just making people unable to recognize them. Facing such hardships but able to move forward is what makes us humans.

I'm glad we only have to wait few days instead of a week to see the comclusion.
Sep 26, 2016 10:06 AM

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Does anyone know where I can watch this episode
been searching all over the internet and I can't find it x.x
Sep 26, 2016 10:23 AM

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In end that was Hinata / Izuru?

Nothing ventured, nothing gained (Girls und Panzer der Film ) / from Nishizumi Miho

Sep 26, 2016 10:43 AM

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I thought Tengan believed hope comes from people acting like people? His plans are pretty much the opposite of that.
Or was he the first one to be brainwashed by the Hope anime? (I didn't quite understand that part; it would be weak as a plot twist, though)
Sep 26, 2016 10:59 AM

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gusy don't you realize that the whole point of this episode was to make us fall into despair?


that's the reason why there will be the Hope chapter



"Be who you are and say what you mean, because those who mind don't matter, and those who matter don't mind" - Dr. Seuss
Sep 26, 2016 11:34 AM
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I have the feeling that Mitarai is going to die, each time that appears a red frame layer in the bottom or the top of the video, that character is going to die and is died.
This happen with gozu, kimura, andou, kirigiri,etc and now with asahina and mitarai.

Well, now I feel a little disappointing because I want a huge plot twist and not something like this...

I wonder if Hinatazuru is going to do something or him only planning watch wich "hope?" is going to win.

another plot twist will be if the mastermind (Tengan) or Chisa change the Hope video from the phone of Mitarai and put the Despair video.

I don´t know how this could end only in 24 minutes, also they never explain why Monomi come back during the ending of DR2 and how did Nananmi to talk with hinata during the last class trial.

Also they still don´t explain everything related to NWP...
Sep 26, 2016 11:42 AM
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CONTINUED TO HOPE SIDE :)
Sep 26, 2016 11:42 AM

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lmfao this whole show has been such a total waste of time
Sep 26, 2016 11:46 AM

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With subs or without subs this was bullshit,again! So RIP Asahina,just for the heck of it, RIP Munakata bc muh strong vs 30 soldiers and RIP Mitarai bc why not. RIP everyone,why would they leave anyone alive?? Let fucking Naegi be the sole human alive in the end surrounded by tons of corpses. sigh
Well i didn't get a thing of Mitarai's purpose aside of "I want to bring hope(???)" so I still have to wait for subs,ugh

So Junko narrates everything from hell's cinema,alongside Chisa who makes us remember there's a grand finale called Hope. If there's no frickin Hinata in that Hope side I'm gonna kill a man. If it's gonna be only Naegg who still screams "iM GONNA BRING HOPE TO EVERYONE" that is not hope,NOT HOPE.

oh my god OH MY GOD I can't fucking believe that my joke from the first episodes became true now, Togami the real savior in the end!!

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In end that was Hinata / Izuru?


It's definitely him, I recognise that pointy spiky ahoge of his from miles away
Sep 26, 2016 11:47 AM

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Toshibe said:

I don´t know how this could end only in 24 minutes, also they never explain why Monomi come back during the ending of DR2 and how did Nananmi to talk with hinata during the last class trial.

Also they still don´t explain everything related to NWP...


I dont know how to properly convey it but wouldnt making an explanation of those events defeat the purpose it had, it was suposed to be something it should never happen, a miracle.

I do agree with a better explanation to the NWP (at least i would have liked to see the origins in Despair Arc). Also the fact that real Miaya never appears in the series (beside 1 dead picture) makes me sad as she would have been a good excuse to talk about the NWP.
Sep 26, 2016 11:52 AM
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I haven't seen it yet. But is there any chance that Kirigiri alive?
Sep 26, 2016 12:06 PM

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i have no idea what to feel at that junko and chisa scene

Kibou-hen take time slot Zetsubou-hen?
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Sep 26, 2016 12:13 PM

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I haven't seen it yet. But is there any chance that Kirigiri alive?


there was no mention of her whatsoever in this ep. doesnt look good for her.
(i still think she will live somehow. i want her to stay dead, but i honestly doubt it)
Sep 26, 2016 12:13 PM

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I wish I waited until Thursday to watch this.

Like I was just suggested... a minute... after watching it.
Sep 26, 2016 12:29 PM
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what... okey at least the video had really good music... this cap was lame... i dont understand some things...

SOMEONE ANSWER ME THIS so hope will continue right ??? so the hope continue in Zetsubou-hen ???

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Sep 26, 2016 12:31 PM
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Well, I expected much more from the final episode. Something like Nanami is mastermind or all game was a computer programm like the one in SDR2, or something really complicated and unexpected. And all I've got was some muffling about videos. Waiting for Kibou-hen, probably we'll get something interesting from it.
Sep 26, 2016 12:34 PM

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lmfao this whole show has been such a total waste of time


It gave us Juzo and Munakata, though.

But yeah, besides those two and expanding the Despair sisters giving them more screentime, the conclusion is pretty awful.
Sep 26, 2016 12:39 PM

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I haven't seen it yet. But is there any chance that Kirigiri alive?


Possibly. At the end of the episode, during the commercial post credit before sponsors, there is a montage of most of the people who died aside from Kyouko and Togami asks, "What happened to Kirigiri?" and proceeds not to say.

Some people were saying it may have to do with her novel, while others are saying she'll be back in Hope.

Why not both? :D

And once again, let's not forget Cure W was not mentioned or shown at all.

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what... okey at least the video had really good music... this cap was lame... i dont understand some things...

SOMEONE ANSWER ME THIS so hope will continue right ??? so the hope continue in Zetsubou-hen ???


Both Zetsubou & Mirai will continue in Hope/Kibou which is going to air in Zetsubou's spot.

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Kibou-hen take time slot Zetsubou-hen?


Yes
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In all honesty I don't have much to complain about the episode, maybe 1 thing which was basically how did Byakuya survived. But that may be answered in Hope Side. In all honesty of course. By the way I had to watch the episode on Spanish subs but I did not regret a single bit of it, it was just a pretty good episode but this is not the total conclusion of the entire series.

Other than that, I did enjoyed the episode a lot personally, we actually got cleared about the motivation from Tengan's end as to why he made the killing game in the first place, and let me point something out here, this might be a bit long.

Considering that Mitarai have been affected by the entire situation, I assume that he didn't wanted to use his ability again because of his own talent being used in the wrong way, just because of Junko's own manipulation through his end. The fact that also he had a burden to where he couldn't do anything about it back then during the tragedy, which not gonna lie, that was actually understandable from his end, whether people like it or not, for me it made total sense. The fact that the entire point of the game was to try to get Mitarai use his own ability again and the fact that the moment when he stepped into the meeting it was the moment where everything went to shit for him and everyone. Well, for me at least it made sense in a way.

However, what he's doing now it's just completely the opposite of what Tengan would want of course. Here's the thing, Mitarai yes, is using his ability... but he's using it the wrong way, he's just brainwashing them to where they can't feel anything, and rather than turning people back to normal, its just making things even worse from there in all honesty. I think if that makes sense for anyone, since Munakata pointed this out as well in this episode about "even if he uses the ability to eliminate despair" (couldn't translate the whole thing but you might have an idea here, basically even if you maybe take away people;s despair, its not going to solve this way in a way).

Speaking of Munakata, I really, really loved the scene where he turned basically badass in this episode. This is probably the best highlight of the episode in my honest opinion, I don't know why, but it was pretty great to see Munakata in action again, especially having two swords now. Holy damn.



This was a pretty good scene to showcase for me, rather thrilling in fact. I really wanna see more from this but unfortunately we would have to wait for more later on, aka Thursday. Aka more delays from DR3. It would be the last one hopefully.

By the way, the after credit scene... OH BOY MY MAN!! MY MAN!!



Overall I don't think this is the end of the entire series, as we still have Kibou-hen (Hope's Side) left from this, which I do hope they deliver a lot more than Mirai has delivered. Overall for Mirai I'll give it a solid 8, the same score as Zetsubou. Oh well, anyway, everyone that's over here, see you on the Hope's Side on Thursday!
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It gave us Juzo and Munakata, though.

But yeah, besides those two and expanding the Despair sisters giving them more screentime, the conclusion is pretty awful.


Juzo is the one good thing this added to DR canon.
Sep 26, 2016 1:27 PM

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so the final ep will be long or had the same length ?
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So, Tengan is the Mastermind. Because of him most of the FF are dead and Naegi don't care at all to this revelation because he make this for Hope. Ugh, disgusting.

So, Mitarai is the Junko version of Hope. And with this, we can see that Hope can be bad too, but I think that this is already stated before.

lol Junko and Chisa with the theater was great.
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nobd said:
so the final ep will be long or had the same length ?


The final episode, Kibou-hen (which is the actual finale) is going to be apparently an hour, which will give closure to both Future and Despair Arcs.
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Hmm. OK, I'm watching the French subs here so I don't know what it's worth, but... I believe the idea that Tengan is "the mastermind" is, in fact, a huge misunderstanding.
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So, Mitarai is the Junko version of Hope. And with this, we can see that Hope can be bad too, but I think that this is already stated before.


We already had this with Nagito, tho.
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Loogs said:
caio_ken said:
So, Mitarai is the Junko version of Hope. And with this, we can see that Hope can be bad too, but I think that this is already stated before.


We already had this with Nagito, tho.


Yeah, Nagito too. But Mitarai is the one who make brainwash videos of Hope, just like Junko does, so he's the best comparison. XD
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I finished the subbed episode and all I see is that everything is going according to Junko's plans (through Despair Yukizome) right now. Tengan was a mere pawn, just like everyone else. She didn't let Mitarai and his abilities escape for naught.

Junko is somehow the mastermind again.
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I finished the subbed episode and all I see is that everything is going according to Junko's plans (through Despair Yukizome) right now. Tengan was a mere pawn, just like everyone else. She didn't let Mitarai and his abilities escape for naught.

Junko is somehow the mastermind again.


Probably but in this case she already said that in this episode, she's already dead.
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