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| RIP Seiko. I started really enjoying her in this episode. Old dude went out like a boss. No idea what he said to Munakata. Hopefully we get to find out next episode. This dude is a beast  |
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G_Spark233 said: RIP Seiko. I started really enjoying her in this episode. Old dude went out like a boss. No idea what he said to Munakata. Hopefully we get to find out next episode. This dude is a beast Unlimited blade works! |
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| NOOOOOOOOOO SEIKOOOOO!!!!!! I really liked her, I'm sad she had to die :( that girl was a real sweetheart, much sweeter than the confectioner, ironically... Also, Tengan died noooo skjbgskjdbg. Well, his death was seen coming, though, since he was freaking stabbed through the chest when he fell with Munakata. Also, I wonder what he said...the traitor's name or a full sentence? Munakata looked mega surprised so it must be something mind blowing, I hope!! |
| omfg seiko nooooo Tengen noooooooo Munkata!!!!!!!!! |
| Can't wait for my dude Hagakure to save the day |
| "My name is John Locke, and I'm responsible for the well being of this Island" |
| Also, with Seiko and Tengan did they kill off the last likable new character just like that? Chisa (?), Tengan, Gozu and Seiko all gone. I don't really have an opinion of the 2 dudes with Kirigiri at this point as they haven't had much screen time, and the rest are all assholes. Candy bitch and her BF are dicks, Munakata and (especially) his house boy are supreme douchebags, Monaca needs to fucking die lol. Am I forgetting anyone? |
| "My name is John Locke, and I'm responsible for the well being of this Island" |
| NO!!! They kill off Seiko, one of my favorite characters in this series!!! |
| OKAY, SOO...there's just way too many things going on and my head f*ckin hurts like hell. So many different things going on, yet nothing is fully getting answered and we only ever get small hints and clues...and those darn cliff hangers. Going to split up my post into different sections because...hell is breaking loose. I will first of all start off talking about what I believe to be the very important points from the conversation between Tengan + Munakata. There are several components to their conversation, as they do jump around and talk about several topics. I will begin by just making my own thoughts very clear in this situation: I do not believe that the attacker/traitor is Munakata. Throughout this episode, there have been many moments where the viewer could label Munakata as the attacker, as his actions and thoughts appear to be delirious. He attempts to kill Tengan even after learning he wasn't the traitor...or attacker. He uses Seiko's drug at the end of the episode. Tengan mentions how he 'sacrificed Yukizome..." I think to understand why Munakata is not the killer, we have to understand his beliefs and why he is acting in this manner. •Case of why Munakata is NOT the traitor •Case of why Munakata is both RIGHT and WRONG in his actions •Munakata's blindness to the situation This is why I believe Munakata is completely blind to the situation. He sees what is "happening", and is taking the initiative and using the situation to his advantage, however he is blind to how his way of thinking is ironically even causing despair. This would also explain the conversation between Tengan + Munakata: •why EXACTLY Munakata is wrong in his way of thinking Now...I know I kind of BSed explaining WHY Munakata's way of thinking is wrong, but in this episode, in their conversation they actually sort of delve deeper into this topic. In this conversation: **What if the conversation/discussion in the above spoiler tag supports the theory that Tengan, possibly Chisa are working together to create a project...create this situation in order to "produce the ultimate hope" by combining Naegi + Munakata's beliefs? A possibly artificially created hope, made with both a VISION + DIRECTION...hmm it does sound like a possibility of why this situation is happening, does it not? A lot of random...unorganized thoughts. My brain hurts as much as the next person's @__@ |
EarlCielAug 8, 2016 9:55 PM
| i both loved and hated this episode. i like how we got to know more about best girl Seiko and how she was such an amazing person and how Ruruka was a little asshole before this mess all before Seiko's death. super sad about that, but it at least gives me the fuel to want to see Ruruka burn (or freeze based on OP). Izayoi was redeemed with his whole stand against Seiko and however the hell he bust out like 30 blades out of nowhere. meanwhile, Ruruka... there's no redeeming her. she thinks she did everything like use Seiko all cuz she trusted her, but that's just total BS. hate her. rip Seiko and rip TenGOD. they didn't deserve it. as for Ruruka again, hope she dies along with Munakata and Juzo :) and that said...  gotta love this crazy af cutie :> honestly love that she's showing up a lot ~ side note: never realized til rn that her shirokuma looks interesting lmao. it's like a simple version of shirokuma and quite different from the ones that Junko wore, but i like it :D |
p3rf3c7ch405 said: i both loved and hated this episode. i like how we got to know more about best girl Seiko and how she was such an amazing person and how Ruruka was a little asshole before this mess all before Seiko's death. super sad about that, but it at least gives me the fuel to want to see Ruruka burn (or freeze based on OP). Izayoi was redeemed with his whole stand against Seiko and however the hell he bust out like 30 blades out of nowhere. meanwhile, Ruruka... there's no redeeming her. she thinks she did everything like use Seiko all cuz she trusted her, but that's just total BS. hate her. rip Seiko and rip TenGOD. they didn't deserve it. as for Ruruka again, hope she dies along with Munakata and Juzo :) and that said... gotta love this crazy af cutie :> honestly love that she's showing up a lot ~ side note: never realized til rn that her shirokuma looks interesting lmao. it's like a simple version of shirokuma and quite different from the ones that Junko wore, but i like it :D lol you are really on full hate and don't see anything in the episode at all. |
| bitch all that because of cookies seriously?! you were just using her you ere never her friend. It's sad to see the old dude die and Seiko no!! |
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| Tengan was literally the best guy character of this show. RIP in motherfucking pieces. He did go out like a boss, but man I wish he would've lived. I wonder whose name he said. He's surprised and yet does not believe it... Fishy. I really hope Munakata gets slaughtered tbh. |
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| He said Chisa . She was the teacher of the Despair of Remnants so it makes sense. I think she fell into despair with her students and she was able to close the doors because he is very upperman orsomething. And Munakata went crazy so Best episode comnined future arc, despair arc. despair arc is pretty boring for now but hey just be happy to have some danganronpa |
Loogs said: This just felt like a waste of time. Last Despair episode established Seiko as a likeable character, so I already knew she was doomed. Now we spent almost the whole episode playing up Seiko as the sympathetic victim and Ruruka being a hateful, manipulative bitch, and "shockingly enough" Seiko bit it at the end. Future Arc is getting really dull and predictable, another disappointment this week. Narukami also killed the only other likeable new character, thanks fucker. Nothing else really happened. The scenes with Kirigiri and Monaca felt really pointlessly shoved in there just so they could have SOME screentime. Despair Arc keeps on winning, Future Arc seriously has to step it the fuck up. I more or less agree. Shocker, the cool people die while retards and assholes get to live in a Danganronpa story. You know what's funny? Kirigiri isn't even a favourite of mine, but right now, she's the one I'm rooting for the absolute most in the future arc. She's competent. inb4 they kill her off as well. Well, Fedora guy has a bit of potential to be interesting as well. We haven't really seen enough of him or the animator. Despair arc is what I'm looking forward to the most now, and it's probably going to stay that way for the remainder of the series. |
| It's very sad that all the likable people die now, but do not get blinded by that. The future is impossible to predict, so it's too early to say everything is lost now. Ruruka is meant to be a bitch, but she's not evil. People just take what she says at face value. Look at what's behind words like 'You won't eat my candy' instead of thinking that that's her only motivation. Sakakura is meaned to be an enormous asshole, but remember what's happening in the last two episodes. He's been beaten the crap out of, and generally not being shown as a serious threat. Even if he won't be redeemed, he is useful in a meta way. After all, Tengan became awesome thanks to him. In a way. As for the characters we don't know that well yet.. Mitarai is obviously a bit similair to Neagi. This has a lot of potential, maybe as a third camp of 'how hope should be'. Tengan mentioned a project, maybe Mitarai is involved in that too. Kizakura is a very interesting character. He seems extremely calm, and he's probably very good at reading people. The reason behind him trying to be close to Kirigiri might be more than just 'it's safer' Izayoi has gotten a lot of screentime, but not that much charactization besides basicly being Ruruka's lapdog. Him of all people finding that door is pretty strange. There's the chance he's not what he seems he is. Either that or he will go through a bit of character development (Which doesn't bode well for Ruruka's survival chances) Adding to that; Danganropa has often twists about the setting. In 1 it's that the world as they know it has ended, in two it's that the setting is a VR rehab program. Izayoi's disappearing dagger might be a hint that the setting isn't the FF HQ. All the stuff with Hagakure might be a red herring. TL;DR It's episode 5 out of 12. A LOT of things can still happen. |
| Too much salt can ruin even the best of meals. |
| So Seiko can't eat sweets because of the medicine she's taking... And Ruruka knew the reason and dare hold a grudge against her. Honestly what kinda grudge is that, eating sweets will kill her, it's not like she's not eating on purpose. So full of herself, I don't like her. Poor Seiko, I like her... even tho she's kinda negligent despite not being conscious of it(talking about the Ruruka/Ka anything for dericious sweets. Man Asahina got a lot more badass in this season, she's my fav right now. Don't die pls Dat's some good friendship drama, Ruruka has twisted ideas of trusting others tho. I think the old man said Sakakura Juuzou? I'm not sure but that's what I got from the no. of times he moved his mouth, and Munakata's reaction. And Munakata is so damn annoying. I want him to shut up as soon as possible. At least the old man took away one of his eyes before dying, good job. Man Seiko got killed... I don't even care anymore. She deserved some justice, what a sad life she lived, helping others while suffering alone. |
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Yoshey said: So ... I would say now, that Kyosuke is pretty clearly the traitor now. Tengan knew that he's the traitor and so he killed Tengan. After that, Kyosuke was injured badly, so when the sleeping drug-thing happened, he decided to kill Seiko, because she always had the right medicine for it. As you could see at the end, Kyosuke took the same medicine as Seiko took. ^ But THIS is probably ONLY what they want us to think, it would be WAY too simple for a Danganronpa series to solve a case like this. At least, this is what I think c: Exactly what I thought. |
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Sirofcoffee said: It's very sad that all the likable people die now, but do not get blinded by that. The future is impossible to predict, so it's too early to say everything is lost now. Ruruka is meant to be a bitch, but she's not evil. People just take what she says at face value. Look at what's behind words like 'You won't eat my candy' instead of thinking that that's her only motivation. Sakakura is meaned to be an enormous asshole, but remember what's happening in the last two episodes. He's been beaten the crap out of, and generally not being shown as a serious threat. Even if he won't be redeemed, he is useful in a meta way. After all, Tengan became awesome thanks to him. In a way. As for the characters we don't know that well yet.. Mitarai is obviously a bit similair to Neagi. This has a lot of potential, maybe as a third camp of 'how hope should be'. Tengan mentioned a project, maybe Mitarai is involved in that too. Kizakura is a very interesting character. He seems extremely calm, and he's probably very good at reading people. The reason behind him trying to be close to Kirigiri might be more than just 'it's safer' Izayoi has gotten a lot of screentime, but not that much charactization besides basicly being Ruruka's lapdog. Him of all people finding that door is pretty strange. There's the chance he's not what he seems he is. Either that or he will go through a bit of character development (Which doesn't bode well for Ruruka's survival chances) Adding to that; Danganropa has often twists about the setting. In 1 it's that the world as they know it has ended, in two it's that the setting is a VR rehab program. Izayoi's disappearing dagger might be a hint that the setting isn't the FF HQ. All the stuff with Hagakure might be a red herring. TL;DR It's episode 5 out of 12. A LOT of things can still happen. yep, you are completely right I, for one, have equal amount of hype for despair and future |
FragOutFire said: "Because she wouldn't eat my sweets" might be the worst motivation to hate/bully/kill someone I've ever seen So damn true. Like, seriously... |
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MaahHeim said: FragOutFire said: "Because she wouldn't eat my sweets" might be the worst motivation to hate/bully/kill someone I've ever seen So damn true. Like, seriously... On paper is a very stupid reason (even more so since Seiko will die because of sugar) but thinking about it, the fact that Ruruka's best friend negates the only thing she's good at feels like it hurts her value and invalidates her worth as a person. Imagine that the only think you're very good and proud of yourself in life gets shrugged off by someone important to you who is much smarter and can use her talents in ways yours never will. You will probably feel worthless, right? That's what happens with Ruruka. Don't get me wrong, though. The fact she can't even understand how much of a huge dealt her sweets are to Seiko (like the episode said, she will die if she eats them) and as their relationship went along she twisted it and used it for her advantage as well as taunting her right again in this episode even though she knows the consecuences makes her a huge spoiled, inmature brat and she deserves to die. |
| Tengan dead and Seiko dead.... The hell man. The great characters are getting killed.... Seiko's death really hit me with that candy.... Absolutely chaotic episode. I loved it. Fuck you Munakata and Ruruka. |
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| If Ruruka was so good at making candy she'd make one out of such ingredients that Seiko could eat honestly. |
| I hope we get some more Kizakura action... Also, we need a square off between Izayoi & Munakata! |
| UGH! Why the Chairman!? Munakata really needs to die, along with that damn boxer. They have lost their minds. I have to say that I actually despise Munakata MORE than Byakuya, which is surprising to me. Poor Seiko. I feel so very sorry for her. Ruruka also lost her mind. lol I can't absolutely hate her, though. She suggested for Munakata to be killed off, which I agree with since I absolutely loathe the man, despite how much he helped others before. Also, it's like she feels that her making sweets for people is her only worth for her to even live. Rather deep, in a way, but obviously Seiko had her reasons not to, and to basically ignore that while making her feel like she's being taken advantage of, that's just cruel. It's such a shame. :( |
AmyTwoAug 9, 2016 1:28 PM
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SH4kun said: On paper is a very stupid reason (even more so since Seiko will die because of sugar) but thinking about it, the fact that Ruruka's best friend negates the only thing she's good at feels like it hurts her value and invalidates her worth as a person. Imagine that the only think you're very good and proud of yourself in life gets shrugged off by someone important to you who is much smarter and can use her talents in ways yours never will. You will probably feel worthless, right? That's what happens with Ruruka. Don't get me wrong, though. The fact she can't even understand how much of a huge dealt her sweets are to Seiko (like the episode said, she will die if she eats them) and as their relationship went along she twisted it and used it for her advantage as well as taunting her right again in this episode even though she knows the consecuences makes her a huge spoiled, inmature brat and she deserves to die. It's nice to see someone else empathizing how Ruruka felt, but still. What the hell is her problem? Seiko kept insisting that she indeed couldn't, to the point that she will actually die if she did. You have lost my respect, Ruruka, but quite honestly, I still don't want her to die, what with her relationship with that dude she's always with. It's probably not gonna happen, but I hope later on she regrets what she had done. |
AmyTwoAug 9, 2016 1:27 PM
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| Welp Secret Entrance revealed indirectly caused by Hagakure I guess he's not really useless after all |
Shirobako is AOTY 2015. Deal with it. |
| So Seiko is dead and she will never make up with Ruruka that's kinda sad. With all these flashbacks and monologues I think they still really liked each other but they couldn't really talk it out because Seiko is too meak and Ruruka just too stubborn. My personal opinion on this whole "not eating my candy affair" is that deep in her heart Ruruka just wanted Seiko to also depend on her or to ask her for sth. So she kept on asking Seiko for help and thought that someday Seiko would surely ask for sth in return so that she could prove that she can also be useful. I especially got this vibe because in one of the flashbacks Ruruka said that making sweets is her only talent and that Seiko won't recognize that. |
| I feel Like I only can root for Kyoko Kirigiri and Makoto Naegi only now.The Rest I just don t care If they live or not die anymore considering my other favourites are all kill off. Which are Chisa,Seiko,Great Gozu and also Chiaki If the Danganronpa 2 characters are included. Lol overally I only have three to four character that i like that still live in this series. Well I will always remember Chisa and Seiko As one of my most favourites characters In Danganronpa series even If they are dead They still one of the best well develop character In danganronpa series for me. Even though I use to somewhat like Munakata at the beggining I want him dead now along with Ruruka. Munakata have went too far the only way he can redemn himself is through death In my opinion. Ruruka as well for being absolute jerkass and deserve painful death at leasts for her treatment to Seiko. Juzo needs to die the most horrifying deaths for all the crap and things he mess up trying to kill Naegi,Kirigiri and the rest who gets in his way,Causing Hajime to become Izuru Kamamura and like Ruruka Being absolute jerkass. |
DemonDarknightAug 9, 2016 4:16 PM
| And with that, all of my favorites have died besides the three mains, that being Kyouko, Asahina, and Naegi, which I hope they will all get out of this alibr (I wouldn't really call Hagakure a main, but I hope he still survives, too). The afro man with the adorable voice, the chairman, and now medicine girl. Munakata can rot in hell for all I care. His view of hope is going towards the main antagonist's, who I believe to be Monoca, entertainment and plan, from what it seems so far to me. It's bringing about a lot more despair than hope to me. |
| I can totally see Ruruka's being triggered because Izayoi is not eating her candies (what could be EASILY RESOLVED by him showing her his NG code btw XD) @EarlCiel Yeaaah! I totally got the impression that Tengan was not talking about the Kamakura project. He was against it as we already saw on zetsubou-hen, maybe there is anoter project or he is talking about the Neo World Program thing. :O |
taynisAug 9, 2016 8:49 PM
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| Ruruka is a stupid slut. Also they need to expand on Izayoi more. His character is so cheesy and almost non-existent. All we know is that he's an enslaved childhood friend with sweet addiction. |
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| My precious baby Seiko...She just wanted to save everyone but she ended up saving noone and the only ''friend'' of hers was that manipulative slut..She did everything for her only ''friend'' but what she got in return? Ruruka:''You subhuman asshole!You traitor!'' ''How can I trust someone who doesn't even eat my sweets''...Seriously Ruruka?She is either retarted or just a huge b*tch with an inferiority complex Seiko had told her that she cannot eat her sweets because of a medicine she was taking. Anyways great episode a lot of questions remained unanswered still but we have 7 episodes to go so.. |
JGUS-Aug 13, 2016 9:13 AM
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TragicRomance said: So Seiko can't eat sweets because of the medicine she's taking... And Ruruka knew the reason and dare hold a grudge against her. What kind of illness? Diabetes? Or the medicine? If so then the medicine react to sugary things? Why even seiko have to kept consume it..? fanshii said: If Ruruka was so good at making candy she'd make one out of such ingredients that Seiko could eat honestly. Candy with a plain flavour. Seems good. In the name of "Oichii" -> "dewicious" sweets I wonder if andou isn't a confectioner. |
MoNYeTLeWaTAug 10, 2016 8:46 AM
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| Just had a chance to watch this, and maaan, what a great episode! Too bad Seiko and Tengan has to die here. Got lots of interesting insight reading whole comments and all regarding what Tengan said in his dying breath, still piqued my curiousity, plus the fact that Yukizome is the only victim with her eyes wide open till now... so sad. Can't wait for next episode. |
| To be honest, I don't think Monaca's the traitor. Sure, the one who pulls the strings behind the curtains and the main antagonist of this whole thing, but I think there's someone else with her... |
| I think he either said: Yukizome, or that the traitor is no one. Judging from his reaction. |
_bia_rogich said: I messaged the danganronpa 3 creator, i asked him if Ruruka would die or not, he said that;"Everyone wants her to die, so that probably means she'll live" ;-; i just hate Ruruka so much, but sadly she probably isn't going to die) XD That's how it usually goes in horror or competitive stuff, does it not? Like a certain someone from the game call Until Dawn, or a certain someone from a cartoon called Total Drama Island. |
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