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As I thought, they left everything for last episode. Better brace yourself for next week.
And I don't think that they will screw it up on last episode. It's probably one of the best VN adaptations of all time.
This is confirmation for original ending from VN. There is no option that they will change anything.
Some of the conversational dialogues between the robot and Junker was interesting especially regarding where robots go and what they wish for. Will robots really go to heaven? That's an interesting question I always wondered..
I wonder how long the next episode is gonna be, at this rate it's looking to be like 24 minutes long, no? Probably throw in some original stuff afterwards to connect with the movie better, following the VN it really only needs like 10 minutes tops.
If the score for this doesn't shoot up to at least an 8 after the next episode I'll have lost all faith in humanity, David Production are really nailing this adaptation.
The next episode...agh...it's going to be special.
"Perhaps there is a universal, absolute truth. Perhaps it justifies every question. But that's beyond the reach of these small hands." Mamoru Oshii
There is a cult of ignorance (...) nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that “my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge.” Isaac Asimov
Decided to go and play the Visual Novel once I kinda started to dislike the anime series for this one due to my strange dislike towards the character dialogue, I haven't gotten close to this tbh but for this episode... Wtf was with that ending of this episode. .___________.
This episode was quiet melancholic. Everyone that read the VN has been saying since the beginning of the series that the ending is super sad, so I am expecting to be bawling my eyes out next week. If I don't cry I am lowering my score out of spite for false advertisement you guys spread :/
BubblyHunter said: This episode was quiet melancholic. Everyone that read the VN has been saying since the beginning of the series that the ending is super sad, so I am expecting to be bawling my eyes out next week. If I don't cry I am lowering my score out of spite for false advertisement you guys spread :/
xD This is what I will actually do since I haven't felt anything just yet.
The last episode is going to be insanely painful, isn't it? The Junker's plan was never going to work, but I don't think he'll be the one to die. Mind you, him dying and Yumemi waiting for him until her battery simply runs dry would be a pretty painful ending if it came to that.
BubblyHunter said: This episode was quiet melancholic. Everyone that read the VN has been saying since the beginning of the series that the ending is super sad, so I am expecting to be bawling my eyes out next week. If I don't cry I am lowering my score out of spite for false advertisement you guys spread :/
xD This is what I will actually do since I haven't felt anything just yet.
You're a cold, cold person. Just go back to your Rewrite, 'please'.
BubblyHunter said: This episode was quiet melancholic. Everyone that read the VN has been saying since the beginning of the series that the ending is super sad, so I am expecting to be bawling my eyes out next week. If I don't cry I am lowering my score out of spite for false advertisement you guys spread :/
xD This is what I will actually do since I haven't felt anything just yet.
You're a cold, cold person. Just go back to your Rewrite, 'please'.
That conclusion though Lol. So me not loving Planetarian or having some low expectations for the finale (when of course I am reading its VN at the moment because I didn't liked the pacing for the anime) = Being a cold person.
BubblyHunter said: This episode was quiet melancholic. Everyone that read the VN has been saying since the beginning of the series that the ending is super sad, so I am expecting to be bawling my eyes out next week. If I don't cry I am lowering my score out of spite for false advertisement you guys spread :/
xD This is what I will actually do since I haven't felt anything just yet.
You're a cold, cold person. Just go back to your Rewrite, 'please'.
I only sort of got emotional at the very beginning, when they show the robot's life 'fast forward' and it's implied that she is being left behind but she doesn't know it. That was really sad.
Now, I am actually a person that can cry very easily with anime if it's carried out properly, or makes me attached to the characters. So far, while Planetarian does have a very sad undertone to it it hasn't made me care enough about it to cry. Which is sort of disappointing because I actually specifically picked this title on the premise that it was going to be sad enough to bring me to tears. The first episode made me think "oh, that might happen," but the others episodes didn't do much. Still everyone is talking about how they are saving up the sadness for the last episode, so now I am expecting a lot.
Actually I just finished the Visual Novel right now... and Idk what to say anymore. But I'll say my thoughts on the anime next week. .-. Idk why I'm saying this but you know.
Alright, now that everything is done except the final scene, here's my opinion:
The re-ordering does good on this episode alone, but failed hard on the whole series.
To people who haven't read the original source, I'll tell you something: in the KN the first half of this episode was actually done in the prev 3 episodes.
In the KN, they spent 80% of the story inside the planetarium, covering everything about Yumemi: outer figure, personality, ideals and stuff. In 4-5 hours, Yumemi was thoroughly dissected as a character and the content of her heart was delivered in a light-hearted way that would sooth you at times, and break you at other times.
Here in the anime?
Episode 1: Introduction episode. Well, can't be helped here. It's a good episode 1, imo.
Episode 2: All the contents that made this part of the story actually relevant to the whole vibe-building is missing. (The essence of those content was shrunk into 3 lines that was inserted into the conversation on episode 2. The rest was here.)
The first key scene was turned into a normal, just-passing by, scene. (The whole Yumemi sleeping scene.) While they get the essence (that scene was the first time Mr. Junker actually cared about Yumemi,) they failed to make watchers think the same way. (especially new watchers.)
Episode 3: They concentrated on the second key scene (the projection scene,) which is nothing strange considering the impact that scene had to lots of the reader.
But something has to be sacrificed for that, and that sacrifice was "Yumemi's heart": her feelings towards her job, her wish for "a heaven" that isn't separated, her devotion to human. It was that made the Junker accepted Yumemi's offer to "accompany him to his car." That relationship-building between us as readers and Yumemi, was missing.
ps.: Do note that I think they failed the scene on the projection scene. The third-person view killed it.
Episode 4: The first half of the episode contains all the things I've said to be missing: the essence of Yumemi as the main (or more properly: the only) character.
As I said: this was the selling point of Yumemi. This was the reason why lots of people are able to sympathize with her and then when "that" happened, they felt the shock and so on and so on and thus Planetarian got the super good review in Steam or any VN sites.
That was what's the story is all about. So, to move them here practically means they made the whole previous 3 episodes unimportant. Previous 3 episodes existed, but that's it. It has no real contribution other than letting the plot go smoothly.
Also, this shows that they understood the essence of the story but they failed to understand how the story works. Shows that they lack the proper attention, not only to Planetarian, but to all KEY works.
Because,
KEY formula isn't about the sudden change of mood from happy moments to sad moments. It's about what is delivered during those happy moments that made the sad moments work.
I'm pretty sure any writers of KEY (or whoever have ever worked with KEY as writers) understand this. But the staffs who worked here aren't KEY writers. And as much as I know, Suzumoto Yuuichi, as the original creator, doesn't get his hands directly on the anime. (He's busy, doing another heart-wrenching story that got delayed in release.) Only Orito Shinji, as the composer, is.
ps.: here's one more thing that is missing, that shows just how the staffs underestimate the story:
the sympathy towards Jena, the ever-silent servant of humans, who patiently awaits her human customers.
When Yumemi explained about her believe that robots generally only wish to fulfill the reason they were made that is to serve humans, she was not only talking about herself. She was also talking about Jena. The Junker failed to understand this in the story, but we, as a reader, should probably understand this after sometime.
How Jena miraculously survived 30 years, only requiring basic maintenance that minimum knowledge of the Junker can do. It's as miraculous as Yumemi being still working after 30 years.
Thus is the reason why the title of the Planetarian Main OST is Gentle Jena. The piece isn't about Yumemi, it's about Jena. (GG Orito Shinji, I'm glad he's here for the anime.)
In terms of getting everything covered, they did well. (but hey, there's no way you can mess up a 5-hours VN anime adaptation... well, unless you work at 8-bit.)
In terms of adapting, it's shit. And I don't need to be an elitist to say this.
Lord_Odous said: This is becoming my AOTS by far. Why is it only 7.35!? Ah screw you, curse of short series.
People tend to not watch stuff like this if its that short.
I know, it's hard for short series to even get past the 8 mark. The same thing happened to Uchuu Patrol Luluco last season as well.
I have my hype ready for the last episode, and I will be playing the VN after this show had ended, AND rewatching this all the way from the start after finishing the VN. <3
Lord_Odous said: This is becoming my AOTS by far. Why is it only 7.35!? Ah screw you, curse of short series.
I am along the lines of giving it a 7 as well. It is beautifully animated and presented, but there just isn't much content. With that said my opinion could change very quickly next week if the buildup really pays off. Something really special needs to happen, otherwise it just feels like a pretty story book with no real substance.
Lord_Odous said: This is becoming my AOTS by far. Why is it only 7.35!? Ah screw you, curse of short series.
People tend to not watch stuff like this if its that short.
I know, it's hard for short series to even get past the 8 mark. The same thing happened to Uchuu Patrol Luluco last season as well.
I have my hype ready for the last episode, and I will be playing the VN after this show had ended, AND rewatching this all the way from the start after finishing the VN. <3
I'm doing the exact opposite but it is a good idea personally imo. :3
Revvie-chan said: Alright, now that everything is done except the final scene, here's my opinion:
The re-ordering does good on this episode alone, but failed hard on the whole series.
To people who haven't read the original source, I'll tell you something: in the KN the first half of this episode was actually done in the prev 3 episodes.
In the KN, they spent 80% of the story inside the planetarium, covering everything about Yumemi: outer figure, personality, ideals and stuff. In 4-5 hours, Yumemi was thoroughly dissected as a character and the content of her heart was delivered in a light-hearted way that would sooth you at times, and break you at other times.
Here in the anime?
Episode 1: Introduction episode. Well, can't be helped here. It's a good episode 1, imo.
Episode 2: All the contents that made this part of the story actually relevant to the whole vibe-building is missing. (The essence of those content was shrunk into 3 lines that was inserted into the conversation on episode 2. The rest was here.)
The first key scene was turned into a normal, just-passing by, scene. (The whole Yumemi sleeping scene.) While they get the essence (that scene was the first time Mr. Junker actually cared about Yumemi,) they failed to make watchers think the same way. (especially new watchers.)
Episode 3: They concentrated on the second key scene (the projection scene,) which is nothing strange considering the impact that scene had to lots of the reader.
But something has to be sacrificed for that, and that sacrifice was "Yumemi's heart": her feelings towards her job, her wish for "a heaven" that isn't separated, her devotion to human. It was that made the Junker accepted Yumemi's offer to "accompany him to his car." That relationship-building between us as readers and Yumemi, was missing.
ps.: Do note that I think they failed the scene on the projection scene. The third-person view killed it.
Episode 4: The first half of the episode contains all the things I've said to be missing: the essence of Yumemi as the main (or more properly: the only) character.
As I said: this was the selling point of Yumemi. This was the reason why lots of people are able to sympathize with her and then when "that" happened, they felt the shock and so on and so on and thus Planetarian got the super good review in Steam or any VN sites.
That was what's the story is all about. So, to move them here practically means they made the whole previous 3 episodes unimportant. Previous 3 episodes existed, but that's it. It has no real contribution other than letting the plot go smoothly.
Also, this shows that they understood the essence of the story but they failed to understand how the story works. Shows that they lack the proper attention, not only to Planetarian, but to all KEY works.
Because,
KEY formula isn't about the sudden change of mood from happy moments to sad moments. It's about what is delivered during those happy moments that made the sad moments work.
I'm pretty sure any writers of KEY (or whoever have ever worked with KEY as writers) understand this. But the staffs who worked here aren't KEY writers. And as much as I know, Suzumoto Yuuichi, as the original creator, doesn't get his hands directly on the anime. (He's busy, doing another heart-wrenching story that got delayed in release.) Only Orito Shinji, as the composer, is.
ps.: here's one more thing that is missing, that shows just how the staffs underestimate the story:
the sympathy towards Jena, the ever-silent servant of humans, who patiently awaits her human customers.
When Yumemi explained about her believe that robots generally only wish to fulfill the reason they were made that is to serve humans, she was not only talking about herself. She was also talking about Jena. The Junker failed to understand this in the story, but we, as a reader, should probably understand this after sometime.
How Jena miraculously survived 30 years, only requiring basic maintenance that minimum knowledge of the Junker can do. It's as miraculous as Yumemi being still working after 30 years.
Thus is the reason why the title of the Planetarian Main OST is Gentle Jena. The piece isn't about Yumemi, it's about Jena. (GG Orito Shinji, I'm glad he's here for the anime.)
In terms of getting everything covered, they did well. (but hey, there's no way you can mess up a 5-hours VN anime adaptation... well, unless you work at 8-bit.)
In terms of adapting, it's shit. And I don't need to be an elitist to say this.
another ps.: I'm not ready. :(
Yeah, I feel like around 30+ minutes more split across the first 4 episodes would've helped a lot. It's definitely rushed and the source material is much superior (as usual) but it's been a decent adaptation nonetheless.
Yeah, I feel like around 30+ minutes more split across the first 4 episodes would've helped a lot. It's definitely rushed and the source material is much superior (as usual) but it's been a decent adaptation nonetheless.
Lol, rushed?
I took me 2,5h of reading, and my primary language is not English. I think that most of people who are using English as primary could read it in 2 hours. In which part it was rushed? I'm asking seriously.
Yes it could be a little better in some parts, but it's adaptation, so it's rather obvious that it will be always a little different from source. Animation works different than visual novel.
Yeah, I feel like around 30+ minutes more split across the first 4 episodes would've helped a lot. It's definitely rushed and the source material is much superior (as usual) but it's been a decent adaptation nonetheless.
Lol, rushed?
I took me 2,5h of reading, and my primary language is not English. I think that most of people who are using English as primary could read it in 2 hours. In which part it was rushed? I'm asking seriously.
Yes it could be a little better in some parts, but it's adaptation, so it's rather obvious that it will be always a little different from source. Animation works different than visual novel.
It wasn't rushed in all honesty, and that actually depends on a person's reading speed (unless you go on average speed like me and go on YouTube). I'm pointing this out of course.
Yeah, I feel like around 30+ minutes more split across the first 4 episodes would've helped a lot. It's definitely rushed and the source material is much superior (as usual) but it's been a decent adaptation nonetheless.
Lol, rushed?
I took me 2,5h of reading, and my primary language is not English. I think that most of people who are using English as primary could read it in 2 hours. In which part it was rushed? I'm asking seriously.
Yes it could be a little better in some parts, but it's adaptation, so it's rather obvious that it will be always a little different from source. Animation works different than visual novel.
If you reread what I posted you'll see that the subject of my 2nd sentence is in the 1st sentence.
At no point was I referring to the VN in my 1st sentence, so unfortunately the first part of your reply really has nothing to do with my post at all.
Yeah, I feel like around 30+ minutes more split across the first 4 episodes would've helped a lot. It's definitely rushed and the source material is much superior (as usual) but it's been a decent adaptation nonetheless.
Lol, rushed?
I took me 2,5h of reading, and my primary language is not English. I think that most of people who are using English as primary could read it in 2 hours. In which part it was rushed? I'm asking seriously.
Yes it could be a little better in some parts, but it's adaptation, so it's rather obvious that it will be always a little different from source. Animation works different than visual novel.
If you reread what I posted you'll see that the subject of my 2nd sentence is in the 1st sentence.
At no point was I referring to the VN in my 1st sentence, so unfortunately your reply really has nothing to do with my post at all.
Really awkward.
Yeah, I feel like around 30+ minutes more split across the first 4 episodes would've helped a lot. It's definitely rushed and the source material is much superior (as usual) but it's been a decent adaptation nonetheless.
Well... yeah, pretty decent adaptation, compared to 90% anime-adaptation of a VN. (which is sad on its own.)
Sad that it ended right there.
But hey, seeing this getting animated is already a miracle on its own. <3