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Dec 22, 2015 4:56 PM

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The fact remains they were going up against a whole town full of people at Legatto's control and they were also pretty shook up by Wolfwood's death. I don't think its that hard to realize they didn't have much of a chance. After all they're no longer up against normal humans.

Vash being forced to kill Legatto was one of the most powerful scenes I've ever seen, his entire character has been destroyed. Legatto won this fight.
I've been here way too long...
Mar 13, 2016 3:19 PM

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Legato is dead, just like that after all that build up *sigh*
At least we have knives, hope he will have a better ending.
Apr 27, 2016 6:20 AM
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The premise for this episode came right on time before the final showdown between Vash and Knives. I had complaints about the show from some of the recent episodes (not including the previous one) about the lack of consequences (at this point) regarding to Vash's idealistic outlook towards pacifism but the premise this time was all about testing how far Vash is willing to go with it. I'm so glad Vash pulled the trigger since it reflected well on the reality and situation of Trigun's universe. I would've felt really annoyed if didn't happen otherwise because it would've cheapened the entire built-up towards Lagato dying.

Despite Lagato's death, he still "won" in a way that he got exactly what he wanted. This should be up there with Episode 23 as the best episodes of the series thus far due to the emotional impact of Vash's heart-breaking decision in the end. I didn't really "feel" it at the time because I was like "about time!" in terms of the logical developments played out in Vash's character and the overall plot at the final stretch of the show.
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May 28, 2016 3:31 PM

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The quality is dropping episode by episode.
Jun 8, 2016 12:22 PM

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Knives is a fucking troll. He utterly succeeded in destroying the foundation of Vash's character and at the same time sever his last remaining ties to Rem. Vash probably prefer death over this. At least he is finally freed from Rem's impractical ideals.
Fav episode so far wow...It was amazing to see Vash killing someone....wowowowow
I alway wonder what are the role of the insurance girls and that was answered in this ep.
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Sep 17, 2016 1:57 PM

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I was worried that he would let them die.
Nov 1, 2016 12:11 AM

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Poor Vash really can't catch a break. Fantastic episode.
Jun 16, 2017 2:48 AM
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Vash is a sad character. Believing in impossible ideals and suffering because of it. Some find it annoying, but for me it makes him into a much more real character.
Sep 4, 2017 8:21 PM

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Legato is a bastard. I can't say I really feel sorry for him (well I do in a way because he could have chosen to not be an evil jerk), but, assuming Vash actually killed him, he has hurt Vash immensely with his suicide by Vash scenario. I was originally thinking that this kind of meant Rem was dead forever, so to speak, but Rem believes in redemption so it's not all gone. I'm on the edge of my seat to finish this.
Dec 7, 2017 11:15 AM

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Great episode even if there weren't the girls Legato would make the people kill each other.
Mar 6, 2018 9:20 AM
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Legato kind of villains are the worst villains to deal,no matter what you do you will always lose.
While the no killing ideal is wrong people don't understand how killing someone is difficult,you never killed someone so you'll never understand.
Apr 23, 2018 11:14 AM
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Amazing episode probably my favorite of the series forcing him to betray his ideas powerful.
Aug 10, 2018 8:44 AM

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That was so unexpected. Now Vash will want to kill Knives, I guess.
May 22, 2019 4:15 PM

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Finally Vash broke! This is quite interesting.
May 28, 2019 8:14 AM
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Oh god, poor Vash, I felt so bad for him, goddamn Legato was mentally torturing him so badly... Vash did it at the end - he killed another human. Legato wasn't kidding about the "eternal suffering" part...
Sep 3, 2019 1:13 PM

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One of the most annoying things about this show is how abilities are not explained. That one guy controls puppets though a red crystal. The next one makes shockwaves with his sax. And Legato can control people's minds. Why? No one knows, they just have these superhuman abilities without reason lol
Apr 15, 2020 11:43 PM

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This was an amazing episode but sadly we never got explanation how Legato even managed to achieve such incredible ability and did he also live for 100+ years like vash and knives
May 31, 2020 2:46 AM
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That shot at the end was more powerful at the emotional level than at the physical.
Aug 6, 2020 8:43 AM

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As flawed and naive Vash's ideologies were as pointed out by Legato, putting him in a situation as hopeless as that where he'd either lose himself or the last of his friends was heart-breaking...

He put so much hope into the human race and tried so hard to see the good in them no matter how despicable they are but he was let down again and again while being unable to do anything about it. As much as I'd want to see him be the happy-go-lucky idiot he always was, I'm afraid that things will never be the same.








Sep 28, 2020 2:35 PM

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good ep and all, but legato died before we could know more of him.

the scene vash to cry was heart warming.
Sep 30, 2020 7:38 PM
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Milly should be on the top ten "characters yo want to be best friends with" anime list.
Nov 22, 2020 9:15 AM
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Great episode. i felt really uncomfortable watching Vash get tortured. Probably because his naivety and innocence sometimes reminds me of myself..
Mar 26, 2021 6:27 AM

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FINALLY.

It was obvious since pretty much Legato's first apparition that his objective was to make Vash go against his own principles and ultimately crush them by killing somebody. It was finally confirmed in this episode. Legato won of course, because Vash could only lose unless he doesn't care about the lives of innocent people.

I was pretty happy to hear Legato say exactly what I've been thinking about Vash since episode 7: Vash is a monster who plays with people's lives. Each time there is a bad guy threatening the lives of innocent people, Vash plays heads or tails:
- 50% probabilty he saves everybody without killing the villain, everything ends well and everybody is happy;
- 50% probability he doesn't manage to stop the villain who then shoot people, there are casualties, hurt or dead people.
Until now Vash always managed to get himself out of these impossible situations because Author-san made him wear a massive plot armor so that he never questions his stupid and unrealistic principles. Glad this is finally over.
Apr 9, 2021 8:49 AM

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Great episode. Legato succeeded to win against Vash by forcing him to lose his way of life, which Vash was fighting for over 100 years. I'd have liked to know more about Legato tho
Aug 22, 2021 7:53 AM
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This is the episode that made this show a Masterpiece for me. It made it stick. It's such a striking pay-off to Legato's introduction in Episode 11.
Sep 13, 2021 2:44 PM

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Knives sure is ominous.

That Chapel death scene was gruesome.

Vash telling Meryl about Knives had the perfect amount of sentimentality to it.

Vash was definitely backed into a corner via Knives, he discovered he had no choice. This was the spider and butterfly scene all over again. Knives knew that direct, willful murder would ultimately break Vash: Knives greatest goal.

Then, Vash snapped, what with Meryl and Milly being held hostage and then hearing Legato talk trash about Rem.

Poor soul that one, poor Vash.
Dec 29, 2021 9:10 AM
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still can't believe wolfwood is gone
Jan 16, 2022 4:17 AM
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This was the best episode in the entire series for me.
Jul 13, 2022 2:43 AM

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Finally, some character development.
Oct 30, 2022 5:53 PM
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Oh fug, Vash killed someone... well, shi, fug, all his beliefs went down the drain. Well, lets see where this will go.
Dec 8, 2022 7:05 PM

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We're finally seeing present day Knives. Not that he needed to be built up anymore than he already has been, but slaying Chapel like that was such a brutal flex. It also seems to make things more hopeless in that Knives can manipulate space and Vash didn't get even half the powers he has in the manga.

I know I said my favorite scene was Wolfwood's death, but, as a whole, this is such a good episode. The confrontation with Legato is pretty intense, especially because I agree in that Vash is naïve about having not killed anyone. Plus, his subsequent death is both so satisfying and heart wrenching.

"...Is your mother worried? Would you like us to assign someone to worry your mother?"

Dec 15, 2022 2:06 PM
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The series started as a trifle comedy but then it turns to be one of the most depressive series I have ever seen.
Jan 16, 2023 4:21 PM
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Legato's level of manipulation is horrifying. 
How does he even control the movements of others? 
Seeing Vash break like that was tragic. He's going to carry that weight, but he had no choice in the situation despite Legato stating he did. It was the equivalent of choosing to die along with your friends or killing and saving your friends. It's not much of a choice.
Forced choices are hardly any way to back up an ideology; it's the equivalent of using extremes to justify a weak argument.

Feb 21, 2023 5:17 PM
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Mar 6, 2023 3:21 AM
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Good bye, Legato!
Apr 21, 2023 4:43 PM
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Legato is one crazy guy
May 26, 2023 12:11 PM
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Vash continues to take Ls... I remember when this was a silly show.
Jul 16, 2023 11:56 PM

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This anime reminds me of Gundam, but the cowboy / gunner version..




Aug 13, 2023 8:59 PM

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Out of all these episodes about Legato (technically Knives) bothering Vash this was the best and less annoying one.
Dec 19, 2023 6:50 PM

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Well Legato wasn’t kidding about causing eternal suffering to Vash and he did just that, control the civilians so that they attack Meryl and Millie and manipulate Vash into killing him when he KNOWS that Vash is opposed to the idea of killing someone in the first place and succeeded in the latter killing him. Now Vash’s ideals have all gone down the drain thanks to this encounter with Legato and it really came as a shock to me when I first saw this moment. It’s a horrifically sad but great episode and man what a way to lead us into the finale that way. Pretty much the vast majority of the Gung Ho Guns is dead and the only one left is Knives himself.

It was pretty cool to see what Midvalley could do as an antagonist but sadly when you are paired up with Vash the Stampede is highly likely that his fight was gonna be brief and he probably knew that he had no chance of ending him anyway. Just a few more episodes and then it’ll all be over soon.
Jan 12, 5:30 AM

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The villians in this show are written so perfectly.

Knives is a huge Manipulator and the mastermind behind everything. 10/10 episode.

Aug 16, 5:21 AM

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One think Legato was right people are died because of Vash. He was not the main reasons of them to die but he can save them but his ego didn’t late him. Its not even about more-Al’s anymore he has seriously problems about Rem. Even in this ep he did get the most angry when Legato mentioned her and not when Milly and Meryl almost get killed. He is egoist who is not care about anyone he just care about Rem's morals

On the other hand Milly is a good example who has morals but can understand other peoples decisions. She didn’t fully agree with Wolfwood but understand and his decision.

Maybe we didn’t see Legato the way most of us want but the damage he did is astronomical to Vash
Oct 23, 12:07 PM
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i dont want to keep watching i genuinely feel so terrible after this episode. this is trauma. why. just why. has he not suffered enough. his crying at the start broke me but forcing him to go against his own morals teared my heart and grinded it to fine dust. i dont want to keep watching.
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