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leelee619 said: Darklight0303 said: He singlehandedly massacred a base of terrans whose only sin was wanting to defend their planet and homes and loved ones. That's evil no matter how you delude yourself. Next thing you know Slaine May end up joining the Bullet Club if he keeps Killing Terrans unless Asseylum wakes up before Lemrina Kills her and Edderitto Lemrina will become the princess of the monster Slaine has become and I see the princess escaping with maybe Edelrituo sacrificing herself to let her get away. |
robis798 said: Oh please. I don't consider Slaine OP since he wasn't like that at the start. Inaho was the same all-knowing robot who predictably saves the day which is tedious and cringeworthy. Yes, he becomes OP because it just happens that he manages to acquire some super space magic OP mecha, ironically this is something that happens in almost every mecha series. Its actually a pretty nice change the fact that this is not the case with Inaho. |
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runrunred said: I really want to like Aldnoah Zero, but I think the anime is looking at its world too narrowly. We have numerous episodes of Inaho saving the day, and while that can be good in small doses it cannot carry the anime. I feel like they are neglecting the other parts of the universe which could make the show more interesting than Inaho showing how smart he is for the umpteenth time. For example maybe the show could take a look at local resistance movements on Earth , or at how the terrans feel about their governments who are failing to protect them, or about the difficulties of maintaining power in a feudal system on Mars, or any number of other sub stories in this war. This could be supplementing the main Inaho-Slaine story and add real depth to the narrative. Maybe if the series had more than 2 cours. Sadly it doesn't. |
skudoops said: So is there any reason why all the alien mechs don't have future prediction, guns and the anti-matter shield? It would be boring if every martian mecha had the same abilities. |
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Darklight0303 said: aku_haru said: Excuse me but, I'm I wrong if I cheer for Slaine? It's not like he's the bad one, because he's one of the three main characters in this series. It's all about perspective. And even if he's evil, what's wrong with that? Have you never liked a bad guy before? Izaya, Takasugi, Dio, Enoshima Junko, Kaworu, Loki, Sebastian Morgenstern, Sephiroth... There is a lot of them He singlehandedly massacred a base of terrans whose only sin was wanting to defend their planet and homes and loved ones. That's evil no matter how you delude yourself. You're right you're not wrong. You are however harboring a huge double standard which makes you a hypocrite. Wow, you're all so intense. "Hypocrite"? Well, thank you!!! I always wanted to try chatting with haters because I'm too shy irl but you guys don't give a damn about that right? 貴方がモテない理由、教えおうか? www Here, take some glitter (ﾉ◕ヮ◕)ﾉ*:・ﾟ✧ |
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Inaho_ said: I'm still confused on how Inaho is going to fight Slaine if he can predict the future. It's so damn OP. agreed |
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skudoops said: So is there any reason why all the alien mechs don't have future prediction, guns and the anti-matter shield? I just need some clarification here cause this show is so bad, and not in a so bad it's good type of way. friend, that is my main complaint anime. Do not think this anime as a mecha anime, think of it as science fantasy, There is no explanation of how the Martians mechas operate, they do not explain how the aldnoah power works in conjunction with the mechas, sticks and Kakumeiki Valvrave, they explained how it worked the Valvrave mechas. work through the magic, is so unrealistic that they do not know how to explain the system is certain that each Martian mecha, has a unique magic power, as the one who handles the ice, Discoria controls several strands, tharsis that predicts the future, and has super speed, each mecha has a fanciful power |
seujair31Jan 31, 2015 1:14 PM
| Well Slaine solos the base but it's not as exaggerated as many of you think. Even Inaho said it himself all he had to do was hit the munition shuttles as they were docking and the whole base pretty much collapsed on itself. For the most part Tharsis just had to fly through the debri field too since most shots would hit the debri cutting down the exaggerated amount of shots coming out of the base for mostly effects. He pretty much only did what we already know he can do which is dodge incoming projectiles. The fight new martian i feel went down way to easy. We see he's clearly able to tank some hits even before he put up his gravitational waves but then Inaho comes to shoot him from space which I feel is a bit much. I find it hard to believe his shots wouldn't incinerate in the atmosphere but I guess (sarcasm activated) you can fit spaceship size tech into bullets to resist heat from atmospheric pressures and heat while keeping them viable for shooting cuz technology. (sarcasm deactivated). Also if he could create the waves horizontally I see no reason he cant shift the axis and make the waves diagonally or vertical since it seemed to follow the way his devices rotated around him but I guess the element of surprise from the first shot from space is what took him down. |
| So Inaho saves the day again and even the characters of the show comment at how OP he is. What I still don't get is, when the martian Kataphrakts are so strong that only Inaho and the Deucalion, which only works with Inaho, can beat them - how the fuck did the "Earthlings" survive during the time Inaho was knocked out? They were pretty beat up at the end of the first season, and then they even managed to have a base in the orbit? Which was destroyed now singlehandedly by Slaine? |
skudoops said: So is there any reason why all the alien mechs don't have future prediction, guns and the anti-matter shield? I just need some clarification here cause this show is so bad, and not in a so bad it's good type of way. Because Aldnoah only gives them one ability, it's pretty simple to figure it out. Aldnoah is the activating factor, Aldnoah is the thing that grants the abilities. Plus it separates them so there isn't an overpowered ruler between them. You are basically asking why every nation in the world doesn't have the same types of nukes. Why doesn't Russia build the same type of weaponry as the US and China? Why don't we give Intel to other nations in our planet? Oh thats right because we don't trust eachother. Do you believe the Orbital Knights trust eachother? |
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CoffeeSquid said: +1YumeNoMonogatari said: And here I thought Marito would save the day. How naive of me. |
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Iazrien said: Well Slaine solos the base but it's not as exaggerated as many of you think. Even Inaho said it himself all he had to do was hit the munition shuttles as they were docking and the whole base pretty much collapsed on itself. For the most part Tharsis just had to fly through the debri field too since most shots would hit the debri cutting down the exaggerated amount of shots coming out of the base for mostly effects. He pretty much only did what we already know he can do which is dodge incoming projectiles. The fight new martian i feel went down way to easy. We see he's clearly able to tank some hits even before he put up his gravitational waves but then Inaho comes to shoot him from space which I feel is a bit much. I find it hard to believe his shots wouldn't incinerate in the atmosphere but I guess (sarcasm activated) you can fit spaceship size tech into bullets to resist heat from atmospheric pressures and heat while keeping them viable for shooting cuz technology. (sarcasm deactivated). Also if he could create the waves horizontally I see no reason he cant shift the axis and make the waves diagonally or vertical since it seemed to follow the way his devices rotated around him but I guess the element of surprise from the first shot from space is what took him down. The element of surprise got him, and the fact that it wasn't a normal bullet did also. The bullets Marito and them were shooting looked so much smaller than the one Inaho shot, which would explain why it went down after just 2 hits from it. Plus it took out both arms, which would mean it hit the joints, those tend to be pretty weak compared to the rest of the body in anything that can move. |
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skudoops said: If I remember correctly, in S1 they say Mars was like the Mars version of Doom 3. Something lived there but died long time ago and nothing is known from them. Earthlings migrate to Mars and start their own civilization detached from Earth using the technology left to make their life better, however, their Kataphracts were different and their core wouldn't work, until that guy made them work and became King of the Planet.So is there any reason why all the alien mechs don't have future prediction, guns and the anti-matter shield? I just need some clarification here cause this show is so bad, and not in a so bad it's good type of way. I don't think they can make all these special Kataphracts, otherwise they would have a mass production of them for everyone. They can make cores though, and create weaker Kataphracts meant to be used for regular soldiers. So, the reason why all Kataphracts have different abilities is lost along with the Mars' "forerunners", personally I think they wanted to make them all specialized, perhaps to rely in team work instead of one-men army. |
blackbishopJan 31, 2015 1:42 PM
Inaho_ said: I'm still confused on how Inaho is going to fight Slaine if he can predict the future. It's so damn OP. I wouldn't worry about that too much KamiAlice said: skudoops said: So is there any reason why all the alien mechs don't have future prediction, guns and the anti-matter shield? I just need some clarification here cause this show is so bad, and not in a so bad it's good type of way. Because Aldnoah only gives them one ability, it's pretty simple to figure it out. Aldnoah is the activating factor, Aldnoah is the thing that grants the abilities. Plus it separates them so there isn't an overpowered ruler between them. You are basically asking why every nation in the world doesn't have the same types of nukes. Why doesn't Russia build the same type of weaponry as the US and China? Why don't we give Intel to other nations in our planet? Oh thats right because we don't trust eachother. Do you believe the Orbital Knights trust eachother? If it's so simple to figure out the weaknesses why can nobody else on the entire planet besides Inaho do it? Also Dioscuria clearly had some Grand Master Gundam all previous boss abilities included thing going on, not that it mattered much as Inaho took it down even faster than the other token boss fights of the weak cause they were running out of time and then Slaine did it again in season 2 using some improbable shots fired around Earth's orbit to perfectly hit it technique which makes Inaho's whole sniping the bad guy from outer space this episode look like a scaling down of the super humanly competent teenager thing this show adores. At any rate they continue to set this show up for a final showdown between Inaho and Slaine to decide the war in the end which at this point is the only way things can possibly go cause like Shinn and Kira in Gundam Seed Destiny it has adequately been demonstrated that they are only allowed to lose to each other |
PeacingOutJan 31, 2015 1:22 PM
| Guys, guys.... Why can't we just agree that both Slaine and Inaho are not so well written characters? All can see in this thread is Inaho's fans criticizing Slaine's fans for liking him and vice versa. I really don't understand why almost everyone is so eager to rationalize the other party, when they're clearly both right. Yes, Slaine is a bad character. And yes, so is Inaho. Of course you free to like/dislike them and there is nothing wrong with that, so rather than arguing over two characters let's discuss about this show. |
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YumeNoMonogatari said: Guys, guys.... Why can't we just agree that both Slaine and Inaho are not so well written characters? All can see in this thread is Inaho's fans criticizing Slaine's fans for liking him and vice versa. I really don't understand why almost everyone is so eager to rationalize the other party, when they're clearly both right. Yes, Slaine is a bad character. And yes, so is Inaho. Of course you free to like/dislike them and there is nothing wrong with that, so rather than arguing over two characters let's discuss about this show. In what way is Slaine in the right? An_anon said: YumeNoMonogatari said: Guys, guys.... Why can't we just agree that both Slaine and Inaho are not so well written characters? All can see in this thread is Inaho's fans criticizing Slaine's fans for liking him and vice versa. I really don't understand why almost everyone is so eager to rationalize the other party, when they're clearly both right. Yes, Slaine is a bad character. And yes, so is Inaho. Of course you free to like/dislike them and there is nothing wrong with that, so rather than arguing over two characters let's discuss about this show. Not gonna happen with guys like Darklight and Seujair around. Oh so sorry that not every episode thread is a circlejerk praising your deluded messiah Slaine. |
An_anon said: YumeNoMonogatari said: Guys, guys.... Why can't we just agree that both Slaine and Inaho are not so well written characters? All can see in this thread is Inaho's fans criticizing Slaine's fans for liking him and vice versa. I really don't understand why almost everyone is so eager to rationalize the other party, when they're clearly both right. Yes, Slaine is a bad character. And yes, so is Inaho. Of course you free to like/dislike them and there is nothing wrong with that, so rather than arguing over two characters let's discuss about this show. Not gonna happen with guys like Darklight and Seujair around. Well it's their holy mission after all. |
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| How the fuck is slaine in the right? Inaho's written a bit dull sure but he is far more consistent and interesting character who stands for all the right things so far. Slaine is pretty much Yandere Space Stalin now. |
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YumeNoMonogatari said: Guys, guys.... Why can't we just agree that both Slaine and Inaho are not so well written characters? All can see in this thread is Inaho's fans criticizing Slaine's fans for liking him and vice versa. I really don't understand why almost everyone is so eager to rationalize the other party, when they're clearly both right. Yes, Slaine is a bad character. And yes, so is Inaho. Of course you free to like/dislike them and there is nothing wrong with that, so rather than arguing over two characters let's discuss about this show. They're both just kind of the same thing at this point. As I stated above they're pretty much only allowed to lose or struggle against each other in combat situations and everyone else in the show is just kind of there to job to or be rescued by them. It makes every fight pretty predictable other than how they reach the outcome wherein the show this season continues to be sliding further and further away from the realms of pseudo-science and semi-plausibility in it's explanations and execution and into the realm of super powers and just nearly impossible situations against all odds and likelihood. I mean the show was never that grounded in realism to begin with but lately it's practically playing itself off like a gag series in how it just seems to have embraced the reality that only Inaho and Slaine are allowed to accomplish anything in the long term for their respective sides and how to play around with that reality. There's been the odd red herring like someone else is going to step up and make a major play (Marito, Cruhteo come to mind, Sauzbaum almost kind of succeeded for a little while there but his story arc and reasoning made very little sense and I'd swear the writers realized it too and that it was going to be hard to continue with it so they killed him off and had Slaine take over his position to simplify things a little) but it always seems to end up just being one of those two in the long run. I'd have to check but I'm pretty sure it's been a while (probably since Seed Destiny) since I've seen a supporting cast with less to do or contribute to a struggle or cause in a mecha anime. It's like getting to the point of why is anyone else even there. |
PeacingOutJan 31, 2015 1:32 PM
YumeNoMonogatari said: An_anon said: Not gonna happen with guys like Darklight and Seujair around. Well it's their holy mission after all. Pretty much they are the ones spending too much time slinging verbal attacks at the people posting rather then just contest views over the characters themselves and agreeing to disagree. |
Kaioshin_Sama said: Inaho_ said: I'm still confused on how Inaho is going to fight Slaine if he can predict the future. It's so damn OP. If it's so simple to figure out the weaknesses why can nobody else on the entire planet besides Inaho do it? Also Dioscuria clearly had some Grand Master Gundam all previous boss abilities included thing going on, not that it mattered much as Inaho took it down even faster than the other token boss fights of the weak cause they were running out of time and then Slaine did it again in season 2 using some improbable shots fired around Earth's orbit to perfectly hit it technique which makes Inaho's whole sniping the bad guy from outer space this episode look like a scaling down of the super humanly competent teenager thing this show adores. At any rate they continue to set this show up for a final showdown between Inaho and Slaine to decide the war in the end which at this point is the only way things can possibly go cause like Shinn and Kira in Gundam Seed Destiny it has adequately been demonstrated that they are only allowed to lose to each other Did I say it was simple to figure out their weakness? No I did not, I said it was simple to figure out why they all don't have the same capabilities. Even if sausbamm gained other abilities, it was only after merging with others. Which would mean that they would have to trust him. Do the Orbital Knights trust eachother? No they do not. Plus your still using your Mecha of the week bs, when there were 4 enemies in 12 episodes last season. Sorry the math doesn't add up. If it was Mecha of the week, why wasn't there 12 different Mechs? Oh and would you stop bringing up Gundam every time you post? I don't care for comparisons to Gundam. |
KamiCityJan 31, 2015 1:34 PM
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| the fanboy Slaine, trantam Slaine as the second coming of Jesus Christ. Most fanboy Slaine had orgasm with that ridiculous torture scene with a whip, tipioco SM, one of the most ridiculous torture in history |
Hyack said: CoffeeSquid said: +1to the character Marito, fits better in the Mecha genre that Slaine typical persongem Shojo |
KamiAlice said: Oh and would you stop bringing up Gundam every time you post? I don't care for comparisons to Gundam. Ummmm....too bad for you I guess? Anyway I just kind of continue to find the bitter arguments between Inaho and Slaine funny as hell at this point when they're increasingly becoming essentially the same kind of character that represents and makes all the big moves for their respective sides. And this isn't like something such as Reinhard and Yang Wen Li from LOGH where they both contrast and compliment each other in interesting ways and have their own fleshed out views and goals on how to handle the conflict that reveal a lot about how different they are from each other despite being the big movers and shakers for their sides. Also despite being pretty much genius strategists neither can do it all on their own at the drop of a hat and rely on capable companions from their side of the conflict working on levels varying from the political to the combat oriented to be their alongside them and make sure the missions and plans get carried out properly. Then again I guess that isn't really a fare comparison since this show seems to be going more for the teen drama crowd whereas that show was very mature and measured in it's approaches to just about every situation. Again though I sort of get why Aldnoah Zero does this to an extent. It's trying to tell this big grand story that normally would be attached to a 50 episode series but only has 24 episodes to do it in and thus needs to simplify a lot of things. Placing extra emphasis on 2 main characters to pretty much single handedly represent their sides of the conflict is a very straightforward and simple way to accomplish that...I just wish they didn't keep making it look like they are going to do something interesting with the supporting cast every few episodes only to not and just kill them off instead. |
PeacingOutJan 31, 2015 1:40 PM
YumeNoMonogatari said: An_anon said: Not gonna happen with guys like Darklight and Seujair around. Well it's their holy mission after all. You just made my day |
Wait, did you just say that Jojo is shit? |
aku_haru said: YumeNoMonogatari said: Well it's their holy mission after all. You just made my day Well birds of a feather tend to stick together |
Iazrien said: Because meteorites care about that when going down as well. It is not impossible to think they have made a projectile capable of that given they have giant mechs and these mechs can fight in space as well... so, orbital strikes didn't seem as a surprising thing.[...] The fight new martian i feel went down way to easy. We see he's clearly able to tank some hits even before he put up his gravitational waves but then Inaho comes to shoot him from space which I feel is a bit much. I find it hard to believe his shots wouldn't incinerate in the atmosphere but I guess (sarcasm activated) you can fit spaceship size tech into bullets to resist heat from atmospheric pressures and heat while keeping them viable for shooting cuz technology. (sarcasm deactivated). Also if he could create the waves horizontally I see no reason he cant shift the axis and make the waves diagonally or vertical since it seemed to follow the way his devices rotated around him but I guess the element of surprise from the first shot from space is what took him down. You guys really complain about the series' events and lore comparing it to what you know of technology and physics, however given the elements the series use I don't see how you can compare both things(not to mention some complains have been proven possible in real life). It is like complaining than Captain America: The Winter Soldier ships are unbelivable because they would need a lot of workers and materials and there is no way to build something of that size(not to mention there were more than one) in secret or that the Hydra software to recognize future threats is BS because that can't be done because reasons. It is just a movie with it's own lore which happens to be about a more or less similar Earth. Same with Aldhoah.Zero. |
Kaioshin_Sama said: KamiAlice said: Oh and would you stop bringing up Gundam every time you post? I don't care for comparisons to Gundam. Ummmm....too bad for you I guess? Anyway I just kind of continue to find the bitter arguments between Inaho and Slaine funny as hell at this point when they're increasingly becoming essentially the same kind of character that represents and makes all the big moves for their respective sides. And this isn't like something such as Reinhard and Yang Wen Li from LOGH where they both contrast and compliment each other in interesting ways and have their own fleshed out views and goals on how to handle the conflict that reveal a lot about how different they are from each other despite being the big movers and shakers for their sides. Also despite being pretty much genius strategists neither can do it all on their own at the drop of a hat and rely on capable companions from their side of the conflict to be their alongside them and make sure the missions and plans get carried out properly. Then again I guess that isn't really a fare comparison since this show seems to be going more for the teen drama crowd whereas that show was very mature and measured in it's approaches to just about every situation. The director himself, in one of the interview said Aldnoah.Zero would be the replacement of the Gundam franchise, and that would overcome Gundam. So comparisons with Gundam should be questioned. |
Darklight0303 said: aku_haru said: You just made my day Well birds of a feather tend to stick together Beware the birds! pruuuu |
Wait, did you just say that Jojo is shit? |
seujair31 said: Kaioshin_Sama said: Ummmm....too bad for you I guess? Anyway I just kind of continue to find the bitter arguments between Inaho and Slaine funny as hell at this point when they're increasingly becoming essentially the same kind of character that represents and makes all the big moves for their respective sides. And this isn't like something such as Reinhard and Yang Wen Li from LOGH where they both contrast and compliment each other in interesting ways and have their own fleshed out views and goals on how to handle the conflict that reveal a lot about how different they are from each other despite being the big movers and shakers for their sides. Also despite being pretty much genius strategists neither can do it all on their own at the drop of a hat and rely on capable companions from their side of the conflict to be their alongside them and make sure the missions and plans get carried out properly. Then again I guess that isn't really a fare comparison since this show seems to be going more for the teen drama crowd whereas that show was very mature and measured in it's approaches to just about every situation. The director himself, in one of the interview said Aldnoah.Zero would be the replacement of the Gundam franchise, and that would overcome Gundam. So comparisons with Gundam should be questioned. Well yes and it's done a pretty shitty job of it in that the most it seems to accomplished towards that goal is taking some of the more ill-advised plot points and character dynamics from some of the poorer Gundam series (Seed Destiny, AGE) and tried to pass them off as clever and cutting edge. It's also kind of funny that Gen Urobuchi supposedly designed this whole series but now spends more time pondering Gundam on his twitter account than he does mentioning anything to do with this show. Also it wasn't the director, it was A-1's sleazeball loudmouth president Masuo Ueda who seems to think he's the reason the original Gundam series was popular (He worked on Encounters in Space back in 1981 as one of the producers) |
blackbishop said: Iazrien said: Because meteorites care about that when going down as well. It is not impossible to think they have made a projectile capable of that given they have giant mechs and these mechs can fight in space as well... so, orbital strikes didn't seem as a surprising thing.[...] The fight new martian i feel went down way to easy. We see he's clearly able to tank some hits even before he put up his gravitational waves but then Inaho comes to shoot him from space which I feel is a bit much. I find it hard to believe his shots wouldn't incinerate in the atmosphere but I guess (sarcasm activated) you can fit spaceship size tech into bullets to resist heat from atmospheric pressures and heat while keeping them viable for shooting cuz technology. (sarcasm deactivated). Also if he could create the waves horizontally I see no reason he cant shift the axis and make the waves diagonally or vertical since it seemed to follow the way his devices rotated around him but I guess the element of surprise from the first shot from space is what took him down. You guys really complain about the series' events and lore comparing it to what you know of technology and physics, however given the elements the series use I don't see how you can compare both things(not to mention some complains have been proven possible in real life). It is like complaining than Captain America: The Winter Soldier ships are unbelivable because they would need a lot of workers and materials and there is no way to build something of that size(not to mention there were more than one) in secret or that the Hydra software to recognize future threats is BS because that can't be done because reasons. It is just a movie with it's own lore which happens to be about a more or less similar Earth. Same with Aldhoah.Zero. Some people just haven't heard of the Exterminatus bombardment. |
blackbishop said: Iazrien said: Because meteorites care about that when going down as well. It is not impossible to think they have made a projectile capable of that given they have giant mechs and these mechs can fight in space as well... so, orbital strikes didn't seem as a surprising thing.[...] The fight new martian i feel went down way to easy. We see he's clearly able to tank some hits even before he put up his gravitational waves but then Inaho comes to shoot him from space which I feel is a bit much. I find it hard to believe his shots wouldn't incinerate in the atmosphere but I guess (sarcasm activated) you can fit spaceship size tech into bullets to resist heat from atmospheric pressures and heat while keeping them viable for shooting cuz technology. (sarcasm deactivated). Also if he could create the waves horizontally I see no reason he cant shift the axis and make the waves diagonally or vertical since it seemed to follow the way his devices rotated around him but I guess the element of surprise from the first shot from space is what took him down. You guys really complain about the series' events and lore comparing it to what you know of technology and physics, however given the elements the series use I don't see how you can compare both things(not to mention some complains have been proven possible in real life). It is like complaining than Captain America: The Winter Soldier ships are unbelivable because they would need a lot of workers and materials and there is no way to build something of that size(not to mention there were more than one) in secret or that the Hydra software to recognize future threats is BS because that can't be done because reasons. It is just a movie with it's own lore which happens to be about a more or less similar Earth. Same with Aldhoah.Zero. You can tell me, if in real life, there is some kind of device, enabling it to have premonitions and predict the future. Would explain to me, how can Tharsis have such skills, Funny is people complaining, of things that can be proven through real life, and not criticize magical powers, and things of illusory origin. The fanboy Slaine only know how to criticize Inaho and your skills and intelligence, most do not stop to think that the Unico using a swab with fantasies of power is Slaine, and without this super robo he would have been dead a long time |
| Hmpf, pretty meh... and they are still using that "Inaho comes to rescue" trope? No to mention that stupid technobabble they use everytime they need to explain something that was illogical or not normally possible. And how stupid must be Martian people in those Kataphrakts that they get themself killed everytime? Well. |
Kaioshin_Sama said: seujair31 said: The director himself, in one of the interview said Aldnoah.Zero would be the replacement of the Gundam franchise, and that would overcome Gundam. So comparisons with Gundam should be questioned. Well yes and it's done a pretty shitty job of it in that the most it seems to accomplished towards that goal is taking some of the more ill-advised plot points and character dynamics from some of the poorer Gundam series (Seed Destiny, AGE) and tried to pass them off as clever and cutting edge. It's also kind of funny that Gen Urobuchi supposedly designed this whole series but now spends more time pondering Gundam on his twitter account than he does mentioning anything to do with this show. Also it wasn't the director, it was A-1's sleazeball loudmouth president Masuo Ueda who seems to think he's the reason the original Gundam series was popular (He worked on Encounters in Space back in 1981 as one of the producers) so far we have had no information, the operation of mech. Martians, or the basic, the only information we have is that just by hand in that round thing, that activates mecha. they lose time in this cheap drama, not the pass the technical information of how the sistem aldnoah works, nor mechas |
YumeNoMonogatari said: Guys, guys.... Why can't we just agree that both Slaine and Inaho are not so well written characters? All can see in this thread is Inaho's fans criticizing Slaine's fans for liking him and vice versa. I really don't understand why almost everyone is so eager to rationalize the other party, when they're clearly both right. Yes, Slaine is a bad character. And yes, so is Inaho. Of course you free to like/dislike them and there is nothing wrong with that, so rather than arguing over two characters let's discuss about this show. Your post is too full of common sense to be accepted in the Aldnoah Zero discussion threads. A couple of people here have turned this every week into a kindergarten level "My dad is stronger than your dad" level discussion. |
Kaioshin_Sama said: Well yes and it's done a pretty shitty job of it in that the most it seems to accomplished towards that goal is taking some of the more ill-advised plot points and character dynamics from some of the poorer Gundam series (Seed Destiny, AGE) and tried to pass them off as clever and cutting edge. It's also kind of funny that Gen Urobuchi supposedly designed this whole series but now spends more time pondering Gundam on his twitter account than he does mentioning anything to do with this show. Also it wasn't the director, it was A-1's sleazeball loudmouth president Masuo Ueda who seems to think he's the reason the original Gundam series was popular (He worked on Encounters in Space back in 1981 as one of the producers) Remind me again how well Reconquista did? |
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Kaioshin_Sama said: YumeNoMonogatari said: Guys, guys.... Why can't we just agree that both Slaine and Inaho are not so well written characters? All can see in this thread is Inaho's fans criticizing Slaine's fans for liking him and vice versa. I really don't understand why almost everyone is so eager to rationalize the other party, when they're clearly both right. Yes, Slaine is a bad character. And yes, so is Inaho. Of course you free to like/dislike them and there is nothing wrong with that, so rather than arguing over two characters let's discuss about this show. They're both just kind of the same thing at this point. As I stated above they're pretty much only allowed to lose or struggle against each other in combat situations and everyone else in the show is just kind of there to job to or be rescued by them. It makes every fight pretty predictable other than how they reach the outcome wherein the show this season continues to be sliding further and further away from the realms of pseudo-science and semi-plausibility in it's explanations and execution and into the realm of super powers and just nearly impossible situations against all odds and likelihood. I mean the show was never that grounded in realism to begin with but lately it's practically playing itself off like a gag series in how it just seems to have embraced the reality that only Inaho and Slaine are allowed to accomplish anything in the long term for their respective sides and how to play around with that reality. There's been the odd red herring like someone else is going to step up and make a major play (Marito, Cruhteo come to mind, Sauzbaum almost kind of succeeded for a little while there but his story arc and reasoning made very little sense and I'd swear the writers realized it too and that it was going to be hard to continue with it so they killed him off and had Slaine take over his position to simplify things a little) but it always seems to end up just being one of those two in the long run. I'd have to check but I'm pretty sure it's been a while (probably since Seed Destiny) since I've seen a supporting cast with less to do or contribute to a struggle or cause in a mecha anime. It's like getting to the point of why is anyone else even there. You're going to have to explain to me why it's a problem when they do it, but not when Gundam does it. In the end, CCA pretty much just came down to Char vs Amuro, and nobody else was going to be able to step into that. Same deal with Stardust Memory; nobody else could have stepped into the battle between the Neue Ziel and GP03. In UC Gundam, OVAs notwithstanding, the protagonist is invariably a super powerful Newtype that is completely untouchable by the grunts. They're just as irrelevant as they are Aldnoah. |
mariansony said: this is one of those shows where I don't fcking care if all the characters die... especially the BS, OP, Bionic Robocop, Supersayian Inaho I do not care if the Power ranger Slaine die, along with his megazord toy, which provides for the future. and if possible take your servant Zordom Harklight together. and if possible take these ridiculous super powers together to the grave |
| Of course, inaho saves the day again. It's so painfully the Deucalion having to go to earth was just some random shit without a real reason, it was made just to make Slaine win there, I mean there's no way he would've win with Inaho there. The writing is so poor it hurts. |
| The discussion here is always so fun! (^_^) Count Mazuurek seems like one of the good Counts. Hooray, Yuki and Lt. Marito are back! But they can't handle Mazuurek, so... LASER TRANSMISSION! Deucalion + Inaho to the rescue. Can the Terrans ever win without Inaho? Meanwhile, Slaine's showing he's a badass by taking on Trident Base. "I guess I have no choice." I guess you don't. Seems like Inaho has something up his sleeve. |
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mariansony said: Vanisher said: Of course, inaho saves the day again. It's so painfully the Deucalion having to go to earth was just some random shit without a real reason, it was made just to make Slaine win there, I mean there's no way he would've win with Inaho there. The writing is so poor it hurts. Nobody would have won with Inaho there...and no one will...because he's God, remember? Gods make use of supernatural powers, as his beloved power ranger Slaine is the only one that makes use of supernatural things, like super robores activated with magical powers, which provide for the future is his beloved Slaine. The only one who can commit many errors, genocide, kill and do whatever the fuck and is always right and forgiven by his fans is his beloved Slaine |
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