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Nov 15, 2014 4:18 PM

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chickenonthepan said:
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Well UBW is all about realism, and to become a real hero who save real people in real (read:unfair) situations one has to be sharp.
Or else one won't cut it.


Wrong...

UBW is about adapting your ideal into reality. So it is a mixture of realism and idealism.

Stop.

Let him make sword puns, you jerk.
And I mean that in the most sexually painful way possible.
Nov 15, 2014 4:19 PM

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RinPriest said:
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If you don't like character/plot development - which you called pointless sidetracking in spite of it all being directly connected to the plot as a whole -, try watching Deen's UBW movie.


Yup, DEEN did a great job removing all that useless character development and got straight to all the action scenes.

They did it on purpose, it was eye-candy for the fans.

But seriously, a route in 2 or even 3 hours ?
Let's cross fingers HF will be a serie of movies rather than only one.
I'm a big softie.
Nov 15, 2014 4:20 PM

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FlameseeK said:
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This anime had such a good start but has turned aggressively mediocre over the last three episodes. Gorgeous animation not withstanding, the writing is abysmal. Time and time again we have Rin not doing what she's supposed to be doing and they pul the tsundere card to play it off like it's not the dumbest thing in the world.

We're 6 episodes in and the last three have been a mixed bag of slice of life and pointless sidetracking. Very disappointing thus far. 6/10

If you don't like character/plot development - which you called pointless sidetracking in spite of it all being directly connected to the plot as a whole -, try watching Deen's UBW movie.


Who needs character development anyway? No character can possibly be serious or mature unless they're a cold blooded killer actively seeking out their next target. Personality, motivation, goals? Useless mediocre crap. A good character uses cold logic.
Nov 15, 2014 4:21 PM

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Ddashung said:
They did it on purpose, it was eye-candy for the fans.

still kinda failed in that regard

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Nov 15, 2014 4:26 PM

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As good as the animation is, there is occasionally an issue with body proportion on this show:
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Nov 15, 2014 4:26 PM

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Perfect entrance for Archer XD
Nov 15, 2014 4:28 PM

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chickenonthepan said:
Ddashung said:
Well UBW is all about realism, and to become a real hero who save real people in real (read:unfair) situations one has to be sharp.
Or else one won't cut it.


Wrong...

UBW is about adapting your ideal into reality. So it is a mixture of realism and idealism.

It's the case with all FSN routes, only that what is the "reality" of each is more or less crappy.
Fate and Heaven's Feel do not feel very "real", one is too light and the other too dark.
UBW, as a middle ground, seems more relatable compared to RL.

Magic and all that aside, of course.
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Nov 15, 2014 4:30 PM

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RinPriest said:
Haha, so I wasn't the only one who noticed that,

I forgive Ufotable because I know they are being wise with their budget and saving it up for the action scenes.

I think Evangelion did the same thing back in the day. That didn't work out so well >.>;;

I'm still pretty nervous Ufotable will accidentally spend all their budget and then the rest of the episodes will look like shit.
And I mean that in the most sexually painful way possible.
Nov 15, 2014 4:31 PM

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RinPriest said:
mickdrew_99 said:
As good as the animation is, there is occasionally an issue with body proportion on this show:


Haha, so I wasn't the only one who noticed that,

I forgive Ufotable because I know they are being wise with their budget and saving it up for the action scenes.

Yeah, that was kinda weird. lol
Nov 15, 2014 4:34 PM

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RinPriest said:
mickdrew_99 said:
As good as the animation is, there is occasionally an issue with body proportion on this show:


Haha, so I wasn't the only one who noticed that,

I forgive Ufotable because I know they are being wise with their budget and saving it up for the action scenes.


Nah, they will fix it in the BD. Just look at FZ BD fixes.

They have to draw so many scenes to match the deadline, so they have to make mistakes somewhere.
Nov 15, 2014 4:36 PM

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mickdrew_99 said:
As good as the animation is, there is occasionally an issue with body proportion on this show:
Wow, lol'd at that moment in time. And still lolling now. At leasts I'm not the onl-
RinPriest said:

Haha, so I wasn't the only one who noticed that,


Animation is a bit funny this ep. Design-wise. But it flows better than the other eps ~.~
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Nov 15, 2014 4:40 PM

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mirakura said:

Animation is a bit funny this ep. Design-wise. But it flows better than the other eps ~.~


No, still perfect. They spent their time and budget at the right place.

Nov 15, 2014 4:40 PM

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Make them kawai though...
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Nov 15, 2014 4:43 PM

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chickenonthepan said:
mirakura said:

Animation is a bit funny this ep. Design-wise. But it flows better than the other eps ~.~


No, still perfect. They spent their time and budget at the right place.



Yup, Teiba already had her BD makeup on. Rin just needed a huge boost up! =D
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Nov 15, 2014 4:44 PM

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mirakura said:
chickenonthepan said:


No, still perfect. They spent their time and budget at the right place.



Yup, Teiba already had her BD makeup on. Rin just needed a huge boost up! =D

Definitely a BD makeup

Nov 15, 2014 4:46 PM

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And Saber vs. Rin, continues.
"Yes, I have been deprived of emotion. But not completely. Whoever did it, botched the job."

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Nov 15, 2014 4:49 PM

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chickenonthepan said:
mirakura said:

Animation is a bit funny this ep. Design-wise. But it flows better than the other eps ~.~


No, still perfect.


I wish the translators over at Aniplex showed the same effort:
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Nov 15, 2014 4:52 PM

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So excited for next ep.

Interesting to see what the noble phantasms will be of caster and assassin

mickdrew_99 said:
chickenonthepan said:


No, still perfect.


I wish the translators over at Aniplex showed the same effort:
What's wrong with this line?
Nov 15, 2014 4:55 PM

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insan3priest said:
And

Saber vs. Rin, Beginning.
Saber vs. Rin, Running.
Saber vs. Rin, Turning.
Saber vs. Rin, Rising.
Saber vs. Rin, Dividing.
Saber vs. Rin, Uniting.
Saber vs. Rin, Invading.


~Fixed~
Nov 15, 2014 4:57 PM

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Caster and Saber, why you so sexy. Archer just doing archer things, like being badass.
Nov 15, 2014 4:59 PM

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Still on the topic of fixes for the BD, Rin's mouth looked REALLY weird here:


(love it when MAL doesn't display the freaking image...)

EDIT: image fixed now
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Nov 15, 2014 4:59 PM

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shuryukan said:
So excited for next ep.

Interesting to see what the noble phantasms will be of caster and assassin

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I wish the translators over at Aniplex showed the same effort:
What's wrong with this line?


Not sure if they were trying to say "Oh, I was merely passing by" or "Oh, I just happened to be nearby"
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Nov 15, 2014 5:01 PM

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Having just read Vagabond recently I now know who Sasaki Kojiro is and I gotta say. Kojiro would whip Sabers ass!
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Nov 15, 2014 5:02 PM

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Forgetfulness said:
So want to enlighten us on what Rin "should" be doing?


Actually furthering her efforts to win the Holy Grail War would be nice. Instead she keeps coming up with one convenient excuse after another why she shouldn't or can't take out Shirou despite him being an obvious threat in the long run due to Saber being one of the more powerful Heroic Spirits that she originally wanted? Curious how the heroine loses her drive and calculative mind when it comes to hero.

Now she's playing mentor and they're allies, fair enough, at least we're getting somewhere, but the plot is moving at snail's pace.
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TheIMF said:
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So want to enlighten us on what Rin "should" be doing?


Actually furthering her efforts to win the Holy Grail War would be nice. Instead she keeps coming up with one convenient excuse after another why she shouldn't or can't take out Shirou despite him being an obvious threat in the long run due to Saber being one of the more powerful Heroic Spirits that she originally wanted? Curious how the heroine loses her drive and calculative mind when it comes to hero.

Now she's playing mentor and they're allies, fair enough, at least we're getting somewhere, but the plot is moving at snail's pace.
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Who needs motivations and reasons that have yet to be revealed right? Also, either way it'd be in her best interest to take advantage of a naive and trusting noob who happens to have a powerful weapon even if she didn't have her plot-related reasons.
Nov 15, 2014 5:07 PM

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FlameseeK said:
Still on the topic of fixes for the BD, Rin's mouth looked REALLY weird here:


(love it when MAL doesn't display the freaking image...)

EDIT: image fixed now


Really?@@

I see nothing wrong with it. She is like talking while smirking. And the fact is that she really is doing that.
Nov 15, 2014 5:09 PM

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AJWilliams said:
Having just read Vagabond recently I now know who Sasaki Kojiro is and I gotta say. Kojiro would whip Sabers ass!

OOOOHOHOHOHOHOOHOHHHO, do you know who Saber is? And I would love to spoil the Kojiro thing, but I shall enjoy you reaction after the curbstomping ensues~
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Nov 15, 2014 5:11 PM

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mirakura said:
AJWilliams said:
Having just read Vagabond recently I now know who Sasaki Kojiro is and I gotta say. Kojiro would whip Sabers ass!

OOOOHOHOHOHOHOOHOHHHO, do you know who Saber is? And I would love to spoil the Kojiro thing, but I shall enjoy you reaction after the curbstomping ensues~


He is right mira, look at the truth.
Nov 15, 2014 5:13 PM

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chickenonthepan said:
mirakura said:

OOOOHOHOHOHOHOOHOHHHO, do you know who Saber is? And I would love to spoil the Kojiro thing, but I shall enjoy you reaction after the curbstomping ensues~


He is right mira, look at the truth.


Don't wozz, I know ~.~ But unfortunately, Fate doesn't like Assassins =3
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Nov 15, 2014 5:15 PM

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Archer's still keeping quiet his identity.
Nov 15, 2014 5:16 PM

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mirakura said:
AJWilliams said:
Having just read Vagabond recently I now know who Sasaki Kojiro is and I gotta say. Kojiro would whip Sabers ass!

OOOOHOHOHOHOHOOHOHHHO, do you know who Saber is? And I would love to spoil the Kojiro thing, but I shall enjoy you reaction after the curbstomping ensues~


Do you know who Sasaki Kojiro is!!???? Saber better watch her ass or she's gonna get destroyed!
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Nov 15, 2014 5:17 PM

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AJWilliams said:
mirakura said:

OOOOHOHOHOHOHOOHOHHHO, do you know who Saber is? And I would love to spoil the Kojiro thing, but I shall enjoy you reaction after the curbstomping ensues~


Do you know who Sasaki Kojiro is!!???? Saber better watch her ass or she's gonna get destroyed!


Lol, as much as I love Teiba being vulnerable and all that shit,

mirakura said:
Don't wozz, I know ~.~ But unfortunately, Fate doesn't like Assassins =3


OFC, sword skills alone, Kojiro is marginally better, considering something that will be shown next eppy that I will not say yet =3 But overall, Saber is much more powerful.
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Nov 15, 2014 5:20 PM

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FlameseeK said:
Still on the topic of fixes for the BD, Rin's mouth looked REALLY weird here:


(love it when MAL doesn't display the freaking image...)

EDIT: image fixed now


I thought it looked kinda weird the first time I saw it too, but it's just the lightning/shadows, so I doubt this scene in particular will be fixed in the BD, but who knows.
UBW is basically a route about three tsunderes constantly bashing their heads against one another.
Nov 15, 2014 5:21 PM

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AJWilliams said:
mirakura said:

OOOOHOHOHOHOHOOHOHHHO, do you know who Saber is? And I would love to spoil the Kojiro thing, but I shall enjoy you reaction after the curbstomping ensues~


Do you know who Sasaki Kojiro is!!???? Saber better watch her ass or she's gonna get destroyed!




Kojirou is a badass all right, but I too shall enjoy your reaction when the time comes.
Nov 15, 2014 5:22 PM

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chickenonthepan said:
FlameseeK said:
Still on the topic of fixes for the BD, Rin's mouth looked REALLY weird here:


(love it when MAL doesn't display the freaking image...)

EDIT: image fixed now


Really?@@

I see nothing wrong with it. She is like talking while smirking. And the fact is that she really is doing that.

Her mouth is unnecessarily large and crooked, when it's actually supposed to be much smaller. Maybe it doesn't look weird to you, but I believe Ufotable could have done a MUCH better job without distorting her mouth.
Nov 15, 2014 5:24 PM

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AJWilliams said:
mirakura said:

OOOOHOHOHOHOHOOHOHHHO, do you know who Saber is? And I would love to spoil the Kojiro thing, but I shall enjoy you reaction after the curbstomping ensues~


Do you know who Sasaki Kojiro is!!???? Saber better watch her ass or she's gonna get destroyed!


Can Assassin break through Saber's plot armor? I doubt it.
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Who needs motivations and reasons that have yet to be revealed right? Also, either way it'd be in her best interest to take advantage of a naive and trusting noob who happens to have a powerful weapon even if she didn't have her plot-related reasons.


If keeping Shirou alive served any purpose, then that purpose only came to after the last episode in which she tried to kill him, meaning we'd probably know about, but since we don't know of any such thing, assuming there are none is reasonable.

Regardless, you're fixating on Shirou. Shirou isn't her own failing. The Holy Grail War, for all intents and purposes, has commenced, and yet despite all her preparations, she is content wasting time at her school, seemingly having no issue with hunting preyed upon rather than doing the preying herself - which is not the impression she gave in earlier episodes, in which she seemed much more focused and driven to succeed.

Shirou has killed that drive. He's become the "baka" to her tsundere. This unlikely alliance of theirs was predictable, but the pacing coming to it was poor and subsequently killed the momentum earlier episodes built up.
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ZeroDragon said:
AJWilliams said:


Do you know who Sasaki Kojiro is!!???? Saber better watch her ass or she's gonna get destroyed!




Kojirou is a badass all right, but I too shall enjoy your reaction when the time comes.


ZG-kun, muh man *brofist*

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ZeroDragon said:

Who needs motivations and reasons that have yet to be revealed right? Also, either way it'd be in her best interest to take advantage of a naive and trusting noob who happens to have a powerful weapon even if she didn't have her plot-related reasons.


If keeping Shirou alive served any purpose, then that purpose only came to after the last episode in which she tried to kill him, meaning we'd probably know about, but since we don't know of any such thing, assuming there are none is reasonable.

Regardless, you're fixating on Shirou. Shirou isn't her own failing. The Holy Grail War, for all intents and purposes, has commenced, and yet despite all her preparations, she is content wasting time at her school, seemingly having no issue with hunting preyed upon rather than doing the preying herself - which is not the impression she gave in earlier episodes, in which she seemed much more focused and driven to succeed.

Shirou has killed that drive. He's become the "baka" to her tsundere. This unlikely alliance of theirs was predictable, but the pacing coming to it was poor and subsequently killed the momentum earlier episodes built up.


Shirou is the 'baka' to everyone, and everything, that's not cooking =D
No, Rin still has that drive. Just wait for this to finish, you will learn.
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Nov 15, 2014 5:36 PM

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mickdrew_99 said:
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What's wrong with this line?


Not sure if they were trying to say "Oh, I was merely passing by" or "Oh, I just happened to be nearby"
'Happened by' means the former. Though, they're not far different from each other, no?
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TheIMF said:
ZeroDragon said:

Who needs motivations and reasons that have yet to be revealed right? Also, either way it'd be in her best interest to take advantage of a naive and trusting noob who happens to have a powerful weapon even if she didn't have her plot-related reasons.


If keeping Shirou alive served any purpose, then that purpose only came to after the last episode in which she tried to kill him, meaning we'd probably know about, but since we don't know of any such thing, assuming there are none is reasonable.


As I said, there are motivations and reasons that have yet to be revealed. Assuming there is none is unreasonable when it's only six episodes in. All I can say without spoiling is that the reason is quite important. It's like when you read a book and a question or odd decision is made by the characters early on but then not explained until the later chapters.

TheIMF said:

Regardless, you're fixating on Shirou. Shirou isn't her own failing. The Holy Grail War, for all intents and purposes, has commenced, and yet despite all her preparations, she is content wasting time at her school, seemingly having no issue with hunting preyed upon rather than doing the preying herself - which is not the impression she gave in earlier episodes, in which she seemed much more focused and driven to succeed.


Thus far, they've fought Berserker (the servant that could take on the other six combined) and Lancer (the one who nearly killed Archer if it hadn't been for Shirou's interruption), and just this episode we see Caster who is a powerful mage that has established advantageous territory, and we see Assassin who appears to be allying with Caster. Given all of this knowledge, we see that it would have been incredibly reckless of her if she thought she could go on her own and march into the hands of the enemy just by herself and Archer.

TheIMF said:

Shirou has killed that drive. He's become the "baka" to her tsundere. This unlikely alliance of theirs was predictable, but the pacing coming to it was poor and subsequently killed the momentum earlier episodes built up.


This show just isn't your cup of tea then.
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shuryukan said:
'Happened by' means the former. Though, they're not far different from each other, no?

Sure, but I never heard it said "I just happened by...".

According to Google, it's hardly ever been said - except for in the Bible apparently.
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What does Rin drive?


This is covered in Carnival Phantasm, but I'll tell you now it's a foreign car.


inb4 rin becomes the next Rider
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mickdrew_99 said:
shuryukan said:
'Happened by' means the former. Though, they're not far different from each other, no?

Sure, but I never heard it said that way.

According to Google, it's hardly ever been said - except for in the Bible apparently.
It's uncommon but I hear it every here and there. Just wanted to say that one specific line isn't 'poorly translated' though there probably are some others.

Personally, I try not to make a big deal out of translations unless they're completely giving readers/viewers the wrong idea.
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RinPriest said:
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What does Rin drive?


This is covered in Carnival Phantasm, but I'll tell you now it's a foreign car.


Carnival Phantasm Episode 9 spoiler, Fate/Stay Night general spoilers (including identities)
Nov 15, 2014 5:55 PM

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One true pairing. Seiba is making her move!
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Nov 15, 2014 5:56 PM

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You can dream like you want, mira. But this is UBW. :3
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mirakura said:

One true pairing. Seiba is making her move!
blegh saber. rin all the way~~
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chickenonthepan said:
You can dream like you want, mira. But this is UBW. :3


All the more characterisation means more reactions from one of my fav scenes =3 Might as well enjoy both of them as a special treat~<3
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mirakura said:
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You can dream like you want, mira. But this is UBW. :3


All the more characterisation means more reactions from my fav scene =3 Might as well enjoy both of them as a special treat~<3


I enjoy Saber in UBW as a mother-like figure though.

And she really acts like a mother in anime.
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chickenonthepan said:
mirakura said:


All the more characterisation means more reactions from my fav scene =3 Might as well enjoy both of them as a special treat~<3


I enjoy Saber in UBW as a mother-like figure though.

And she really acts like a mother in anime.


Well, yes, but that's how she acts normally ~.~ Also, quoting this on BL, muhaha
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