Higashi no Eden: Falling Down Episode 1 Discussion

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May 28, 2009 1:40 AM

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Very awesome video. Love the colors. It would've been perfect if they didn't re-use any scenes, but it's still a great piece of animation (and music of course).

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May 28, 2009 3:01 AM

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Yeah, the OP used for the anime is actually based on this video.. I thought it would be a total different setting, with appearances or scenes with Akira & Saki..
But still, it was very good. Great use of typesetting :D

May 28, 2009 8:41 PM

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That was awesome. Kind of strange, but awesome.

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May 28, 2009 10:58 PM

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I liked, but confess I expected more ...

May 29, 2009 1:20 AM

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Wow this was beautiful!

May 29, 2009 6:33 AM

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Good. Could have used more scenes though.

May 30, 2009 9:53 AM

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rather meh on overall, I gave it 7 because I like the song but the video was not too interesting.

May 30, 2009 6:26 PM

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awesome video, awesome song = 5/5! :-D

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May 30, 2009 7:20 PM

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It was cool at the beginning, but it just kept being repetitive, and the video really didn't make sense. Its like the animators trying to show off their animating skills, but with no meaning behind it...But I'm sure I can make up some bullshit though. lol.

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May 31, 2009 3:12 AM

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Haha, wow, that video was quite something. Really enjoyed it and in a sense, it touched me as well~

May 31, 2009 5:55 AM

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Visually impressive, i think it would have been better if they used the same inspiring proverbs used in the HnE OP rather than a karaoke.

Jun 2, 2009 3:49 PM

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I liked, vn1 video.

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Jun 2, 2009 6:25 PM

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Music was good though starting at the screen too long got me sleepy which made me not able to see what was going on.

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Jun 3, 2009 7:49 AM

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Nice video. The song is also something I've always liked about Higashi no Eden, because I usually don't like anime songs. The animation was amazing as usual, but we can't really expect any less from Production I.G.. ^^;

Jun 7, 2009 8:59 AM

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Strangely enough that the touhou anime didn't get added to the MAL database, yet a music video is added as an episode of an anime.

I gave it a 5/5 vote though.^^

Jun 7, 2009 9:04 AM

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Great video, I like the animation, of couse love the song. Gave it an 8 to stay in the reasonable boundaries.

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Jun 7, 2009 5:29 PM

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I love the animation for this. I can't believe I'm giving a music video such a high rating but it can't be helped. >.>

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Jun 8, 2009 4:39 AM

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The recurring scenes ruined it, but oh god loved the pony's and THE BIRDS!!! Oh the birds.

Those birds...

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Jun 12, 2009 2:08 AM

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Zebulunn said:
This shouldn't even be on MAL, there is no anime content whatsoever.
It's an ordinary 2D animation, just because it's made by Production I.G and uses the song from an anime, DOESN'T make this an anime.

There's lots of music video, commercial, etc on MAL that are not actual series.

In any case, this wasn't that great. It was PRETTY, yes, but the parts used in the OP and the parts for the music video didn't mesh well together, because the color and tone of the video parts was deeper. It's also awkward when they leave in bits like silhouettes of Akira and Saki but take out the characters themselves. Makes it look like they just cut and pasted footage from the opening then.

The imagery fails overall because it has nothing to do with the song or the lyrics. I mean, wtf were those ponies on screen for? I think I would have rather seen the standard lame music video (a video of the band playing the song to a bunch screaming fans), at least that would have had more to do with the actual audio, then.

Jun 15, 2009 10:30 AM

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lack of recycled Akira senes.

Jun 16, 2009 7:53 AM

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Pretty cool I must say, just wish they wouldn't have re-used parts from the opening.

Jun 20, 2009 7:05 AM

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The song is just boring, generic mainstream rock lameness- hardly anything changes throughout and it's annoyingly vocal lead and lifeless, doesn't deserve more than a 3/10, the animation is just reused scenes with lyrics thrown about, so that doesn't deserve more than a 5/10, 4/10 overall? Yeah, that's reasonable

Jun 20, 2009 8:23 AM

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SelfRevolution said:
The song is just boring, generic mainstream rock lameness- hardly anything changes throughout and it's annoyingly vocal lead and lifeless, doesn't deserve more than a 3/10, the animation is just reused scenes with lyrics thrown about, so that doesn't deserve more than a 5/10, 4/10 overall? Yeah, that's reasonable

The irony... you talk about mainstream lameness yet some of your top last.fm artist include Slipknot and As I Lay Dying.

Anyway, as for the video it was alright... it was mostly ruined by the constant reused imagery. As for the song... I guess it fits the show well but not my taste.

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Jun 20, 2009 9:27 AM

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@NeloDeath: The irony, yeah? For starters the contrast in mainstream music we're talking about here: Oasis, million selling artists for years on end, constantly in the charts for decades. Slipknot and As I Lay Dying: metal artists who would never get that kind of success and are far from everyone's cup of tea. Secondly, you might want to take into account the fact I hate Slipknot's new album which could be classed as far more mainstream as their previous efforts, how would you know this you might ask? Check my charts more thoroughly- I have no plays for their new album!

Moreover, whilst Slipknot have been successful with metal fans in the past, you can hardly call them mainstream in the grand scheme of things. Also, you might also have noticed I have had my Lastfm account for three years and the number of plays I have for Slipknot in recent times is extremely low! Now onto As I Lay Dying, what in the world makes you call them mainsteam? They're a metalcore/ thrash metal band, yeah they have clean sung choruses every now and then and have had a few songs on rotation on hard rock music channels, but you can hardly call them mainstream, just where is the level of success even Slipknot have had to back up that kind of statement!?

In short: The difference in what we're calling mainstream here is phenomenal, Oasis compared with Slipknot or As I Lay Dying is laughable, it really is.

Jun 21, 2009 3:25 AM

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I enjoyed the video. As I don't listen to mainstream and anything other than Russian folk rock, I appreciate the song as a remarkable adding to the series.
Actually, only from this video I understood that a Selecao phone is the apple (regarding Eden theme).

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Jun 21, 2009 7:16 PM

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SelfRevolution said:
@NeloDeath: The irony, yeah? For starters the contrast in mainstream music we're talking about here: Oasis, million selling artists for years on end, constantly in the charts for decades. Slipknot and As I Lay Dying: metal artists who would never get that kind of success and are far from everyone's cup of tea. Secondly, you might want to take into account the fact I hate Slipknot's new album which could be classed as far more mainstream as their previous efforts, how would you know this you might ask? Check my charts more thoroughly- I have no plays for their new album!

Moreover, whilst Slipknot have been successful with metal fans in the past, you can hardly call them mainstream in the grand scheme of things. Also, you might also have noticed I have had my Lastfm account for three years and the number of plays I have for Slipknot in recent times is extremely low! Now onto As I Lay Dying, what in the world makes you call them mainsteam? They're a metalcore/ thrash metal band, yeah they have clean sung choruses every now and then and have had a few songs on rotation on hard rock music channels, but you can hardly call them mainstream, just where is the level of success even Slipknot have had to back up that kind of statement!?

In short: The difference in what we're calling mainstream here is phenomenal, Oasis compared with Slipknot or As I Lay Dying is laughable, it really is.

While I agree that Oasis is a much more mainstream band than Slipknot/AILD... all three are incredibly mainstream. All of which having their special place on a form of MTV/2 which can't really get anymore mainstream. Really it's just a matter of where and who you ask to determine what is mainstream... such as someone that finds all their music through MTV might not find them mainstream but someone that listens to loads of obscure bands from internet research or word of mouth will find them mainstream. Also, on a side not... did you really just call Slipknot metal... and AILD a thrash band... lulz.

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Jun 22, 2009 12:43 AM

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If I may intrude on the battle that's going on...

The recycled scenes were disappointing, but I thought that it was well done throughout. Good to have a little Higashi no Eden reminder now that the show just finished. I especially liked the birds and when the horses turned into the butterflies.

Btw, you guys are forgetting that music is only part (albeit a major one) of the finished product. Animation, art, etc. is part of that as well.

Jun 22, 2009 1:41 AM

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@NeloDeath: Sorry, I’m still finding it highly amusing that you’re labelling AILD as “incredibly mainstream”- that’s an incredibly subjective statement. I’d also like to remind you the only place they’ve ever had on music channels would be MTV2’s Headbanger’s Ball, which is hardly a mainstream hour even if it is a mainstream channel, this is further evidenced by the fact that Headbanger’s Ball was cut to less than half it’s original running time, think of that as a low ratings show on another channel such as a movie channel- if a show doesn’t get high ratings, it’s cut.

Now if we’re going to get pedantic and argue over small details such as something automatically being mainstream because it’s shown on a certain channel here I’d like to point out the last setence of your last post regarding Slipknot being metal and AILD being thrash. You attempt to mock the genres I have chosen to associate with them when you claim mainstream music is all down to opinion, now while I partially agree with your comment about mainstream music, it could also be argued that many things are down to personal opinion such as genre classification, hence your earlier point (if can so be called one) about Slipknot being metal and AILD being thrash is all down to opinion, and not fact, thus it will naturally vary from person to person.

I also don’t like the way you’ve interpreted what I said in my last post, you seem to have a case of selective reading/ memory: I did not call AILD a pure thrash band, I said they were metalcore/ thrash, meaning they incorporate elements of both, not necessarily in equal amounts either, I’m in fact fully aware that none of AILD’s material pre-2007 is really thrash at all. However, on their latest release some of their material can indeed be said to incorporate elements of thrash and hence be associated with the band. Now onto Slipknot, again with the selective memory, I am only referring to Slipknot’s music that I like e.g. 1999-2004 era, which was all nu-metal, which while not being a ‘pure’ metal genre as such is still a subgenre, hence I believe the genre of metal can still be associated with them.

I’d also like to point out what I assume to be your own way of finding music: “listens to loads of obscure bands from internet research or word of mouth”, now the way you’ve phrased that would hint that you’re claiming I am the opposite and find all my music through MTV and such channels, which I am not, in fact I’m much more like the above, finding music through internet research. I’d like to refer you back to my earlier post where I said I have had my Lastfm account for three years- my music taste has changed dramatically in that time.

See it’s not so much what you’ve said that I find irritating, it’s the fact that your initial point claims that my point was ironic and that you’ve attempted to mock my opinion, when your entire argument rests on opinion, and almost opinion alone at that. Now is that not ironic? So to quote you, “lulz”

@meonlyme775: we have both touched on the non-musical qualities of this video (albeit only briefly and somewhat indirectly), as you have said about the reused scenes I have also made that point which refers to animation and art both indirectly. I will admit though that we’ve both gotten carried away on the musical aspect now though. I just wanted to point that out, I’m not trying to start another needlessly heated discussion here.

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Jul 1, 2009 4:27 PM

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Good Video, good song.

Jul 2, 2009 3:01 AM

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Plun said:
Music was good though starting at the screen too long got me sleepy which made me not able to see what was going on.

Haha, yeah that happened to me too.

Jul 3, 2009 1:26 AM

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Nothing special, good song and good animation, as what we saw in the OP.

Jul 6, 2009 1:52 AM

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hmm, for me so so...dont know why i dont find it nice(like 5 out of 5)

Jul 7, 2009 11:41 PM

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LOL at you dude.....

Anything that appears on Billboard is mainstream, plain as that. (So if you didn't understand, AILD and Slipknot ARE mainstream)

That being said, Falling Down may be generic and stuff, but is a really good song.

Regarding the video, let me say that the OP gave a greater surprise than this video did.

Jul 8, 2009 3:08 AM

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It was great. I simply loved it. (The music is win by default) Great animation, and a really good arrangement of images. I think I enjoyed it more than the series.

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Jul 10, 2009 10:11 AM

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@Wani_Me: Yeah I kinda had a post after that you maybe should've read, and you're a bit late, that whole discussion kinda ended a while back...

Regardless I'd still like to comment on your little contribution here:
"Anything that appears on Billboard is mainstream, plain as that. (So if you didn't understand, AILD and Slipknot ARE mainstream)" - If you haven't noticed I'm not from America so the Billboard means nothing to me, absolutely nothing.

Also, NeloDeath and I have already been over all this in our discussion and I don't care to discuss it any further, if you want justification for what I've said then read all my posts in this thread rather than just my second one. And just for the record, what you've said on the matter is incredibly subjective- it's all down to opinion. If you choose to think your opinion rules over all and so much so that it is to the degree that to you seem to believe it is fact, then so be it, but I have no time for you if that's what you choose to believe.

Jul 18, 2009 9:57 PM

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That was nice. I think the song is great and the animation was beautiful - Got a bit repetitive though.

Aug 4, 2009 9:05 AM

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I used to listen Falling Down single a lot but I have to admit that this video is chaotic, repetitious, and boring. Compared to original (which at least have some plot and was interesting to watch) i give it 3/10.

Jan 16, 2010 11:30 PM

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@w@ It looked sooo amazing...
I really loved the animation. <3

Aug 16, 2010 6:32 AM

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Liked and favourited on youtube. nuff said.

Jul 6, 2011 8:53 PM

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Great opening for a really good anime.. This would be my first encounter of a real music from the mainstream such as U2 which was used in an anime.. :-) I was at first surprised to hear a song from one of my favorite bands in an anime that I was watching.. but nonetheless it fitted in an also great anime..
The opening video was visually entertaining! The only flaw or awkwardness I felt was the rotating arm haha

Jul 18, 2011 8:49 PM

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rather meh on overall, I gave it 7 because I like the song but the video was not too interesting.

i am on the same boat as you.
the song was much better than i was expecting.

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panda_general said:
It was cool at the beginning, but it just kept being repetitive, and the video really didn't make sense. It's like the animators trying to show off their animating skills, but with no meaning behind it.

Agreed. Experimental video, colorful and well done, goes well with the song, but lacks of a real meaning.
I adore Oasis, but Falling Down is far from being one of their best songs.

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Jul 7, 2013 6:10 AM

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I want to download this in HD

Can anybody help me out?

Would appreciate it much!

Sep 25, 2013 5:21 PM

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Average, I liked the idea but they repeated stuff so much. The song was about a 6 or 7 itself.

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Oct 23, 2013 9:53 AM

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amazing!!!

Jul 7, 2014 2:28 PM

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The song is decent enough, but the video was nothing special. It was kinda hypnotic, but that's about it. Not a bad experience, but also not very memorable. 5/10.

I probably regret this post by now.

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