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Jul 14, 2014 10:30 AM
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THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE.
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Ah so I see the team spotted Art in some photos. I really wonder what his true plan is though. The episode was better than the previous imo.

I didn't think he became that cruel though even putting innocent lives at risk. But nope, I was not expecting him to stab himself and living through it. Inb4 they meet again in the future.
Jul 14, 2014 12:03 PM
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So Art has all those minimum holders abilities now that's pretty sweet.
Jul 14, 2014 12:18 PM
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Wow what a great episode. I enjoyed this one more then last weeks. >.> Finally some more of what went down during last season. Also finally get a glimpse of what Art's miminum is. Though talk about a drawback if he has to drain people out of their powers like that to get them.

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Jul 14, 2014 12:31 PM
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the 1st half of the episode was boring.

so art's minimum is to extract minimums from other minimum holders with those minimum holders no longer having a minimum. interesting.

those transition sequences are still irritating
Jul 14, 2014 12:44 PM
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AHA! Nice actually had that kind of DVDs in his room after all!

Ah, Art holding Nice at gunpoint after his battle with Moral.

So why was Art trying to kill Nice and Murasaki?

Chiyuu T.T!

Damn, those guys look shady and weird as hell...

Hmm, Art went to Facultas Academy it seems.

Well it looks like Art "saved them from their sins" which can mean that he either killed them or did something to take away their powers and let them live as normal human beings.

Art is about to be killed lol.

LOL, Art stabbed himself and died, but he revived somehow O.o

Oh, he injects himself with those minimum shots and gains powers it seems.

It looks like I was right to think that he just got rid of their powers instead of killing them. As carrying their sins means their powers with him.
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Jul 14, 2014 1:16 PM
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The transition being used is so No More Heroes haha


(should've said this before but didn't come to me until now)
Jul 14, 2014 1:18 PM
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That was actually pretty damn good.
Jul 14, 2014 1:28 PM
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Oh well that got interesting. I guess Art figured out that you don't have to actually take out the brain to get the minimums and instead can just suck it out using a syringe o_o so...he's sort of like an anti-hero then? Kind of?
Jul 14, 2014 1:29 PM
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So is Art a minimum holder or what?
Jul 14, 2014 1:35 PM
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Art has a Regeneration Minimum.

I'm looking forward to see why Art wants to kill Nice and Murasaki.
Jul 14, 2014 1:41 PM
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his regenarate minimum is sucks... it only regen after you die. so if the enemy just keep torturing Art, he will not regen.

luckily for Art, his enemies in Hamatora is not the typical Anime-Villain that happy to attack sloooooowly, talk talk, attack, talk talk, attack
Jul 14, 2014 1:57 PM

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This episode answered a lot of questions, happy about that. I had a feeling Art would have a regeneration minimum. But seems that he has to die to use it, that sucks.
A Hajime themed ending, hopefully that means we'll see more of her.
Jul 14, 2014 2:02 PM

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So instead of giving everyone minimums like Moral was trying to do, Art is taking minimums away from everyone. Interesting episode.
Jul 14, 2014 2:20 PM
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I liked it a lot more than the first episode, but I'm still stunned and in a state of confusion, frustration and sadness.
And, to be honest, I even cried while watching because of what Art did to Nice and because of what Art did to everyone else.
Regeneration minimum would explain why he survived all of morals gunshots. though, why is he saying that he doesn't have a minimum?
I guess we can kind of see that Art doesn't want to kill these people, but that maybe, he wants to bring them back to being considered 'normal' by society, and that's why he does what he does.. but I'm still very unsatisfied by everything that is happening, I want my NiceArt back :(
Also, I'm interested into what happened to Hajime, since she absolutely didn't want to go to Facultas.
AND THE PREVIEW? Young Nice and Art? Nice and Art holding hands? WHAT IS GOING TO HAPPEN I am so nervous.
Jul 14, 2014 2:28 PM

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Hm, so Art was the one responsible for why Hikaru was stabbed
Art had the regeneration minimum - probably stolen
Art took his Light Minimum, and then used that to get the paper minimum
Hajime's refusal to go to the Facultas Academy or w/e - wonder what that was about.
Oh and everyone isn't dead.
Uh, better than I expected (the episode) I guess.
Jul 14, 2014 2:40 PM
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Wait, so team Hamatora knew all along that Nice was alive? That depressing atmosphere in the beginning was an act? Trolled me pretty good!

Chiyuu joined a new group? Freemum doesn't sound like a bad team but they all look weird except their leader, Chiyuu and that megane.

Paper's Minimum was awesome. Too bad, he's ability is also probably taken away by Art, since it seems like he's collecting Minimums from all the holders.

Good episode. Art is actually more dangerous than Moral in a way!

Jul 14, 2014 3:25 PM
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The transition being used is so No More Heroes haha


(should've said this before but didn't come to me until now)

YES! Since the last week i was like ''where have i seen these before?'' i even heard that guitar sound from NMH.
Great episode, we finally know what happened the last season. Art is a douche huh?
Jul 14, 2014 3:29 PM
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That episode was really awesome...Hamatora is off to a great start!

I had a feeling that Art's Minimum involved him being able to heal or something, but damn, he's pretty much invincible lol

Didn't expect to hear that Art *didn't* kill Moral, so my question is where is he now?

Also I'm assuming that Art was referring to Moral when he said "carrying on his work* so I wonder what he's going to do with everyone's Minimum's

Also, I kinda wish that all those kids died but oh well...I can't wait to see what happens next :DD 5/5

That Paper guy was cool too
Jul 14, 2014 5:15 PM

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Nice,in one episode Art manage to be more of a convincing villain than Moral ever was (even though he didn't kill those kids).Though he seems more like an antihero.
Jul 14, 2014 5:36 PM

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Think im going to drop it. Art was always jealous and just a clone of Moral. He just does it a little different instead of giving it away.
Jul 14, 2014 5:51 PM

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jesus christ

That was one hell of an episode. (I was probably the only one freaking out when Art showed his minimum but anyway) I really like Art. I don't even care if people say he's a lame villain or whatever, I'll still like him a lot.
... I hope he doesn't die. Even at the end of this sequel.

This episode made me remember why I was in the minority of actually having enjoyed the first season (aside from the cliffhanger).
Jul 14, 2014 6:39 PM
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-Sigh- really art? Taking peoples minimum and using them to bear their sins? How butthurt can you be.
Jul 14, 2014 7:01 PM

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This is interesting.. but can Art's body handle all that abilities? Oh anyway, maybe he can since he has he regeneration minimum. I hope Hamatora S2 can maintain this and not goof off anymore.
Jul 14, 2014 7:06 PM
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So many questions... although my biggest is just Art's motivation for all this. I mean, c'mon, he had to play the vague answers game, with his rambling about their "sins" and whatnot. Well, this episode was much better than the first one, I thought.

Jul 14, 2014 7:55 PM
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I think Art is trying to take all the Minimum Holder's power and then let himself died by Nice's hands. After the end of the first season, discrimination for MH increases and that guy in Freemum said that it's not like they want to become a Minimum Holder. I feel like Art is going to become Lelouch of Hamatora.
Jul 14, 2014 8:07 PM

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Holla back to those of us who predicted Art's immortality last season! I am so excited!
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Jul 14, 2014 8:35 PM

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It was a nice episode but it made a bit too much sense.

Art does have a Minimum and that is regeneration after death, making him immortal. Thought as much in S1.

He turned 90 degrees after Moral told him some secret of sort before killing him (remember).

He's doing the opposite of what Moral was doing. Instead of making everyone powerful, he's taking away that power and making them normal, burdening himself.

He'll not die no matter how many Minimum's he takes unlike Moral due to his regeneration.

He takes Minimum's through the spine fluid that's directly linked to the brain?

The only thing that doesn't make sense is why he tried to kill Nice.
Jul 14, 2014 8:52 PM
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too much to take in....honestly that plot twist of art having a minimum and becoming the main antagonist really got me thinking back to the first season

however, stalking art just because he was 'bored' really made my day :P
Jul 14, 2014 8:58 PM

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Eh...so now Art's stealing everyone's ability to shoulder the "sin". Martyr? Nope. He just comes off as a hypocrite.
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"May those who defy their fate be granted glory."
Jul 14, 2014 9:13 PM

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When I saw Art bombing the school, I was like OMG he became another serial killer! Another Moral has appeared! But then I was like oh, he is just trying to take their minimums hahahaha....wait doesn't it means that he is a hypocrite?

I was rooting very hard for the paper guy to finish Art off because he seriously annoyed the hell out of me this entire season, but then nooooooo!

Art has the regeneration minimum and it only activates if he dies...ouch.
Jul 14, 2014 9:26 PM

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Lady_Grimm said:
I'M SO UPSET I COULD SCREAM.

A couple of things:

Art having the Regeneration Minimum was correct.

By sins he indeed meant Minimums and is taking them.

He made it sound like he is taking after Moral whether that is by his own will or not, I do not know.

This just started so we'll see how the rest goes. Hamatora will be the death of me.

*CORRECTION: I JUST SAW THAT NICE AND ART ARE HOLDING HANDS IN THE PREVIEW. I SWEAR IF ART DIES I AM SO DONE.


I know right after last seasons episode 6 when he got shot by Moral I was so done with the show .
But then I kept watching to see if he came back I am glad I am still watching it.
Because this episode was great.
Jul 14, 2014 9:34 PM

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Art's regenerating minimum reminds me of Hampnie Hambart's immortality power
so i guess Art is pretty much taking Moral's role and stealing more and more minimums
good use of hikaru's minimum
Those kids didnt die and they dont have to grow up being discriminated and stuff, so i guess that's good. but looked alittly weird afterwards...

that paper minimum thing was pretty cool

awesome episode, cant wait for the next xD
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Jul 14, 2014 9:40 PM

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Art is aiming to become the minimum Jesus and make everyone normal.
Jul 14, 2014 10:33 PM

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Sad to see Art as the antagonist :-( He does make a good one, but he was such a cutie...
Jul 14, 2014 11:06 PM

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Yay! I'm so confused
Jul 15, 2014 12:10 AM

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Officially continuing and learning the truth about the final scene of the final ep. of first season. They were able to escape before being dead to hide the truth from the ex-police.

Eguchi-kun's character is back for information.

Ex-police came to attack the place with minimum holders... he got multiple power.

ED is nice.
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Jul 15, 2014 12:15 AM

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Art is a likable villain or anti-hero. I like him so i hope he won't die. Nice was cute following Art around. Next week we have young Art and Nice.
Jul 15, 2014 12:22 AM

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I'm so confused with this ep. I know how Art is most likely responsible for Hikaru's wound but I'm still confused why he decided to take all the minimums from the children and tried to kill Nice. most likely because of Moral but I guess it really tickles me for his reason.

great job so far though, the anime looks promising xD
Jul 15, 2014 1:18 AM

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That was actually pretty straightforward episode. Basically Art is able to obtain any minimum he strikes with those things he puts into peoples neck. For example, he got the Light Minimum after using that thing on the guys nick, which in returned caused the guy not to "glow" or in actual terms - he no longer has a minimum (because this guy always "glowed" with his good looks).

Though I still wonder why he's trying to kill Murasaki and Nice.
Jul 15, 2014 1:21 AM
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Wasn't Gasquet killed by Moral already? I kinda forgot what happened in Season 1 so if someone could refresh my memory that'd be great.
Jul 15, 2014 5:17 AM

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Great episode, although Art is really getting on my nerves. Birthday made the ep for me nonetheless. I enjoyed the humor as well.
Jul 15, 2014 8:07 AM

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Nice's DVDs went missing after all. /glares at Birthday

So S1's cliffhanger was finally given an explanation. I kind of expected that Murasaki was the one who saved him. I was right yay

From the hints given Art is stealing Minimum powers from their holders to bear all their 'sins'. But then why did Art tried to kill Nice? Can't he just steal his minimum instead? And that "To think that I would be the one to take on his inheritance", it still isn't clear whether he was forced to do it or not (hi Moral yes I'm talking about you). I still can't shake the thought off of Moral being Art's brother. XD

That scene about Hajime not going to Facultas academy made me curious. Was she tortured there or something? Then there's Chiyuu's issue too. Oh well, all scenes with Birthday in it are hilarious as always.

I'm excited for the next episode. Back stories pls
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Jul 15, 2014 8:53 AM

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About time did Hamatora start to shine, the plot is definitely showing its true colours as opposed to the slightly disappointing season 1. So many questions in this confusing series, and why Hajime has yet to have any relevance but somehow is hinted to be a very important character (yay, because I love her character).

My guess is Art took something from when Moral whispered to him in season 1, and that changed his perspective of minimum holders. I don't think he's being controlled by the way he speaks and I do not think he has a minimum that steals minimum, rather he uses the device to extract it and inject it into himself hence "I will carry their sins".

Can't wait!

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Jul 15, 2014 11:54 AM
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I realize that a lot of people are not only confused but have criticized this show. Some of your complaints are towards Art, and how they simply rehashed Moral.

Here's the thing:
Moral believes in equal/socialized world where EVERYONE has a Minimum. A world where no one, as he calls it, is "fatally weak." The fatally weak are those who are so weak and don't realize it, and when reality hits them in the face they begin to suffer immensely.

Likewise, he wishes to bring Nice down because he believes Nice to be unmatched. Nice is "fatally strong" and thus cannot relate to anyone.


So, he goes around taking brains and Minimums and giving it out to other people.

Art on the other hand, was probably told before his first death about his own "Minimum." Something that Moral knew, but Nice did not.

Now, Art prides himself on the fact that he is a Facultas Academy graduate, and not only that, he is able to take care of himself without a Minimum. And because of that, once he realizes he has a Minimum, he also realizes the horrendousness of the desire to own a Minimum, and the horrendousness of owning a Minimum based on his experience dealing with Moral.

So Art is polar opposite or Moral, whereas Nice would be in the Middle.
Jul 15, 2014 12:41 PM
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Art is aiming to become the minimum Jesus and make everyone normal.
OMG I just died a little haha
Jul 15, 2014 12:42 PM
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Honestly, I really didn't want Art to become the antagonist....whatever- he's still hot.
Jul 15, 2014 1:13 PM

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Well that was sort of predictable

ReaperCreeper said:
Art is aiming to become the minimum Jesus and make everyone normal.

lol this comment
Jul 15, 2014 4:29 PM

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I'm a minority here but I can't stand this freaking show! Don't know how I got through the first season and this is just awful to me. I can't stand the cast and the story development is just not doing it for me. I personally despise the overused freeze frame transition nonsense that is going on. I'm stepping off boys. Enjoy it.

Dropped. No rate.
Jul 15, 2014 4:44 PM

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"Do you know where are the DVDs I hid in my room?"
Rotfl, I can't believe they used the intro for the joke.

Paper guy's power was pretty cool.

So Art is removing powers from Minimum Holders? I get it but why did he try to kill Nice then? Looking forward to next week's episode btw.

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I personally despise the overused freeze frame transition nonsense that is going on.

The eye catch you mean? Actually I kinda find it pretty annoying too, it's really over used.
Jul 15, 2014 5:34 PM

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*Hey, control your partner* xD
Things with Art is quite interesting, him doing what Moral is doing now. I just ope that it isn't about being the strongest again. Taking all those minimum without killing them. Does he plan to make a minimum free world?
An organization where strays might just be as important too.
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