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Mar 23, 2014 2:51 AM
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THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE.
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Yuma finally remembered the promise they made in the past. To duel happily instead of crying like during the journey. Shining Draw?! no.0? Future Hope? His own Hope? Rank 0? The ability is to control other monsters, though. Astral released various Hopes. The audiences are enjoying watching this heating up duel. That door is a card?! So in the end the one thing he will lose is Astral. Astral lost and became a part of Numeron code to revive everyone, who are dead. New journey starts with everyone.
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Mar 23, 2014 4:17 AM
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rio and vector fanfictions are a go
Mar 24, 2014 9:50 AM
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Awesome ending. Kotori was so hnnnnnnnnng

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Apr 18, 2014 6:04 PM
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The best part are the robot childrens !
May 30, 2014 9:29 PM
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Since Kotori actually confessed I'm willing to bump this up from a 9 to a 10 considering that never happens. The romance is always just left open ended. Well... actually, after some consideration, I came to the conclusion that I wouldn't fanboy over this as I would other 10s on my list so I guess I'll keep it at a 9; this is why I wish MAL had .5s this is what I'd call a perfect 9.5. However, if Nasch or Kaito were the main character this would have definitely been fanboy worthy.
Daisuki! <3 hahaahaha

I knew this was going to take the gx route and be like "I've forgotten how to enjoy dueling!?". It was alright though, they didn't spend too much time on it so that's a plus. And maybe it's b/c I haven't heard non-angry Nasch in a while but it sounded like a different seiyu?? I could be wrong though. I thinks it's b/c I prefer his angry voice, it sounds so cool B)

Well this was a good ride and now I can finally move on and watch Yugioh arc bui!

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The best part are the robot childrens !
Oh that part was so funny! I was just like "YES! Orbital ftmfw!!"

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rio and vector fanfictions are a go
Ok, so I'm not the only one thinking that.
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May 31, 2014 12:55 AM
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Aww I really like the last episode of Yu-Gi-Oh! Zexal Second. First time that a female character confess to the main character; good job Kotori and Yuma! :) It was nice to see everyone back and getting along. I'm glad it worked out with Orbital 7 and Obomi - the robot children!

I can't wait until Yu-Gi-Oh! Arc-V begins to unfold. Besides Season 0, I have watched the remaining Yu-Gi-Oh! series (DM, GX, 5D's, and Zexal). I'm a true Yu-Gi-Oh! fan, though I'm not that into the card game but I do play casually. I like the 5D's storyline, so I'm almost done building a deck around Synchros. I'm starting to dig Arc-V, so I want build a deck around that - hopefully with Xyz's; I've used to disregard them, but now I want to incorporate their usefulness. Wish me luck! :D
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Oh my god. I remember watching the first episode 4 years ago because I loved Yu-Gi-Oh. During the summer, I remember running home from work and going straight upstairs to my dad's computer to watch the new episode. I really do feel that I've grown up as a person since the first episode, just like the characters. Since it's been approximately 3 years that should be a given, but Zexal has helped me get through tough times, and I really love the underlined message throughout the series. So much symbolism when Yuma's Future Number 0: King of the Future, hope, destroys the Door of Destiny. I cried so hard on this last episode, and I'm genuinely going to miss this series. Although its askinga lot, I'd love to see a sequel for this pertaining to the events that unfolded afterwards. But, I really liked the way it ended and maybe it would be better left untouched.
I started with the original, but Zexal is my favorite for sure.
Zexal>GX>5D's>DM
Jun 6, 2014 4:11 PM
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I... loved... it!! :')

One of the best Yu-Gi-Oh! series indeed

Now to move on to Arc-V.
Jul 8, 2014 2:06 PM
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With all the hate Zexal gets it's great to see the fans who love the series posting here. I personally loved this series a lot, my favorite so far (yes I loved most of the first half too). The story wasn't really great at all, but the characters really grew on me and the Barians are some of the most interesting YGO villains. Especially Nash/Ryoga, oh boy was I surprised with what they did with him. Really well done.

The finale was great too although it kinda makes me wish there was more. I'd love to see them all finally work together....Rio and Vector lol

In the end: this series may not have much of a story, and the duels can be hit or miss (second half improved here; the Barian duels were always good at least), but it's still greatly entertaining and most characters are so well written. I never plan to drop a YGO series, but still have to say, I'm glad I made it all the way to the end. It was fun, Zexal!
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It was about two months ago when I swallowed my pride and decided to watch ZeXaL. Season 1 was meh but it did a great job developing the characters but the duels were boring and the season was slow. However, season 2 fixed all that was wrong in Season 1. The story got better and the pacing was definitely improved. The duels were great. The characters were fantastically done. The ending was wonderful. The final duel of the series was especially amazing. It was in many ways a better version of Yugi vs Yami.

Overall, I thought I was done with the Yu-gi-oh series when 5D's ended and I saw the trailer for ZeXaL but I have to say that that was a grave misjudgment as I have no regrets watching this series at all.

5D's still remains my favorite but ZeXaL II definitely surpassed DM for me.
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Really enjoyed this. Have to admit, this was a really good series (watched it dubbed). Shes gagaga over him, awww. The original then zexal for me since I'm a dub only watcher when it comes to yugioh (5ds dub never finished, neither did GX)
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I didnt think the show would be that great from the start of Zexal but it turned out to be alright.
I'd say it was on par with Duel Monsters overall.
5D's is still my favourite Yugi-oh series.

Zexal as a whole gets a 7/10
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A confession about freaking time the ending was definitely better than GX in my opinion although I still thought it was face-palm worthy (the a new emerges cliche bit). For me DM=5D's>GX>Zexal as whole I never got into Yuma's character and the maturity drop between 5D's and Zexal was like a thorn in the back of my brain the whole time so it dropped some of the enjoyment for me.
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8/10.
Overall the second season is way better than the first.

Also it's totally cute how Yuuma's cards reference Masterpiece and Braving, two of ZeXal's OPs.
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Wow, really? Just an ending where everyone just gets revived...after all those feels in the previous episodes and they're brought back like nothing ever happened? I'm sorry, but that alone made me despise this ending so much, even from an unbiased standpoint.
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Ryuseishun said:
Wow, really? Just an ending where everyone just gets revived...after all those feels in the previous episodes and they're brought back like nothing ever happened? I'm sorry, but that alone made me despise this ending so much, even from an unbiased standpoint.


Zexal's ending felt like a cliche ending, imo. I don't even remember why i stop caring for it in 2k14 in the first place.
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Wow, really? Just an ending where everyone just gets revived cuz you all are biased towards it and that's the thing, even with it's 2nd half being better than the first, I'd still think some flaw came outta it, and for the record, Zexal hs a really bad ending, with all the deaths that happen, coming back from the died and making it like it never happen? That's just why I think this show is a clear mess, from start to finish.
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Welp, I'm fine with this ending. I would have loved to see more about this new danger.

The duel between Yuma and Astral was full of symbolics it was nice to see. Everyone becoming middle schoolers was fun to watch. Seeing Vector becoming a good person was also nice. It's the first time a YGO villain repents himself I think...

Anyway, since everyone loves to compare each YGO I'm gonna do it too.

Main character : I never despised Yuma but he is probably my least favorite YGO main character. He didn't go much through a lot of character development and that last bit was mostly about him crying and shouting other characters' name, a shame. At least this problem will be resolved in Arc-V.
The protag's group : Well... Even Tea and Tristan(or Anzu and Honda in japanese) weren't as useless as them. But I guess they are here just to be Yuma's friends...
The rival : Kaito was a fine rival. Nothing to say about it.
The villains : One of the best points of this series is the villains. While the previous shows' villains may have been meh(well Marik and Bakura were cool tho) you can't help but like them (except Don Thousand, fuck Don Thousand) especially Vector who had been showed to be the cruelest YGO character made yet. Seriously tho, the dude killed his own people but you still can't stop to like his character, probably the best character of the show and the best YGO villain.

Art : Inconsistent, I'm always disappointed when I see that the art quality goes from top notch to really bad from one episode to the another again and again.
Only xyz monsters : Glad this issue is resolved in Arc-V.
Deaths : I remember that IV's, Kaito's and Vector's deaths were really moving. This series is really dark lmao.

Dunno which score I would give this series right now since I have began it four years ago only to stop just before this duel. But since it seems I enjoyed it as much as to give it a 9/10 and I liked the ending... Well, I'll rate this 9/10 anyway.

I would have said "See you in Arc-V" if we were in 2014 but since I have already almost completed this one I'll say "See you into the VRAINS" instead.
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Zexal is nothing more than a joke to ygo and the older fans. While A5 try it's best to bring back everyone, this one is where the comminity fell apart.
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Oh my god. I remember watching the first episode 4 years ago because I loved Yu-Gi-Oh. During the summer, I remember running home from work and going straight upstairs to my dad's computer to watch the new episode. I really do feel that I've grown up as a person since the first episode, just like the characters. Since it's been approximately 3 years that should be a given, but Zexal has helped me get through tough times, and I really love the underlined message throughout the series. So much symbolism when Yuma's Future Number 0: King of the Future, hope, destroys the Door of Destiny. I cried so hard on this last episode, and I'm genuinely going to miss this series. Although its askinga lot, I'd love to see a sequel for this pertaining to the events that unfolded afterwards. But, I really liked the way it ended and maybe it would be better left untouched.
I started with the original, but Zexal is my favorite for sure.
Zexal>GX>5D's>DM


For me it's ARC-V 5D'S DM GX > Vrains and Zexal
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Ryuseishun said:
Wow, really? Just an ending where everyone just gets revived...after all those feels in the previous episodes and they're brought back like nothing ever happened? I'm sorry, but that alone made me despise this ending so much, even from an unbiased standpoint.


Me too. I've had just enought of that Pokemon rip-off show called Zexal and it's MC being a total loser at dueling.
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Ryuseishun said:
Wow, really? Just an ending where everyone just gets revived...after all those feels in the previous episodes and they're brought back like nothing ever happened? I'm sorry, but that alone made me despise this ending so much, even from an unbiased standpoint.



I think that, in terms of so-called "cliche" endings, it really is all about execution opposed to the fact that a story merely implemented one. If we judged stories solely on their use of cliches, every story would be worst than the last, and where would that leave things such as parody and satire of such elements? In the case of Zexal, if you felt like the "resurrection" of some of these characters was unneeded that's for you to decide whether it truly did ruin the whole story, but personally speaking, it didn't invalidate any of the feelings I had at the time. It did the opposite actually, and coming from a viewpoint of witnessing many terrible endings (that actually made me regret ever starting the series in the first place), I can say this was not one of those experiences for me. With that being said, I think this is a good example of how execution is important within the context of content, and how it isn't always what you do, but how you do it, that is important.


In this instance, I think it does enough different to be a satisfying conclusion, and in that manner, it feels like the characters deserved that type of happy ending. It felt like the characters worked together during a difficult time and became closer as a result. The fact that even Shark and Rio were human (iirc) and got to be with everyone was suppose to be an endearing factor, and doesn't mean they don't remember anything from their Barian life either. It was a nice touch imo.


Also, one can't contemplate an unbiased standpoint from a biased one. There's literally no way for one to know what an unbiased standpoint to the ending of a show is when they've already experienced it in full.
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TheBlackCrow said:
Ryuseishun said:
Wow, really? Just an ending where everyone just gets revived...after all those feels in the previous episodes and they're brought back like nothing ever happened? I'm sorry, but that alone made me despise this ending so much, even from an unbiased standpoint.



I think that, in terms of so-called "cliche" endings, it really is all about execution opposed to the fact that a story merely implemented one. If we judged stories solely on their use of cliches, every story would be worst than the last, and where would that leave things such as parody and satire of such elements? In the case of Zexal, if you felt like the "resurrection" of some of these characters was unneeded that's for you to decide whether it truly did ruin the whole story, but personally speaking, it didn't invalidate any of the feelings I had at the time. It did the opposite actually, and coming from a viewpoint of witnessing many terrible endings (that actually made me regret ever starting the series in the first place), I can say this was not one of those experiences for me. With that being said, I think this is a good example of how execution is important within the context of content, and how it isn't always what you do, but how you do it, that is important.


In this instance, I think it does enough different to be a satisfying conclusion, and in that manner, it feels like the characters deserved that type of happy ending. It felt like the characters worked together during a difficult time and became closer as a result. The fact that even Shark and Rio were human (iirc) and got to be with everyone was suppose to be an endearing factor, and doesn't mean they don't remember anything from their Barian life either. It was a nice touch imo.


Also, one can't contemplate an unbiased standpoint from a biased one. There's literally no way for one to know what an unbiased standpoint to the ending of a show is when they've already experienced it in full.


I've watched plenty of other series and have witnessed their feels moments. A lot of the characters who physically died in those series would certainly be a lot more deserving to come back than those from Zexal...but no, they stayed dead, even when the writers had the chance to revive them. I did genuinely liked Zexal, but not for how that ending played out, which is more unnerving considering you can make these kind of characters out of something in Futurama.

And saying I'm not good at being unbiased? Maybe, but if so, cause then there's actually no such thing as truly unbiased, and said term is just a biased one in itself.
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Ryuseishun said:
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I think that, in terms of so-called "cliche" endings, it really is all about execution opposed to the fact that a story merely implemented one. If we judged stories solely on their use of cliches, every story would be worst than the last, and where would that leave things such as parody and satire of such elements? In the case of Zexal, if you felt like the "resurrection" of some of these characters was unneeded that's for you to decide whether it truly did ruin the whole story, but personally speaking, it didn't invalidate any of the feelings I had at the time. It did the opposite actually, and coming from a viewpoint of witnessing many terrible endings (that actually made me regret ever starting the series in the first place), I can say this was not one of those experiences for me. With that being said, I think this is a good example of how execution is important within the context of content, and how it isn't always what you do, but how you do it, that is important.


In this instance, I think it does enough different to be a satisfying conclusion, and in that manner, it feels like the characters deserved that type of happy ending. It felt like the characters worked together during a difficult time and became closer as a result. The fact that even Shark and Rio were human (iirc) and got to be with everyone was suppose to be an endearing factor, and doesn't mean they don't remember anything from their Barian life either. It was a nice touch imo.


Also, one can't contemplate an unbiased standpoint from a biased one. There's literally no way for one to know what an unbiased standpoint to the ending of a show is when they've already experienced it in full.


I've watched plenty of other series and have witnessed their feels moments. A lot of the characters who physically died in those series would certainly be a lot more deserving to come back than those from Zexal...but no, they stayed dead, even when the writers had the chance to revive them. I did genuinely liked Zexal, but not for how that ending played out, which is more unnerving considering you can make these kind of characters out of something in Futurama.

And saying I'm not good at being unbiased? Maybe, but if so, cause then there's actually no such thing as truly unbiased, and said term is just a biased one in itself.


No, I think you misunderstood. I wasn't calling you out on not being good at having an unbiased standpoint, I was merely pointing out that it is impossible to have an objective outlook when you've already completed the series in full since you'd be considering how the whole plot played out to get to that point in the ending. Hence, you can't really say that it didn't work from an unbiased standpoint. Again, personally I enjoyed how it played out, and much of the forum agrees from what I remembering reading when the show ended, so there doesn't seem to be much basis for your argument there which is why I pointed it out. Your opinion is your opinion, but you can't really speak for everyone else.

As well, it's not fair to compare zexal to a show like futurama, that actually began as a parody, but is hilarious in it's own right. You're comparing characters from another genre of television to the ending of another. In the same manner, I can say that Futurama definitely had their own issues with their ending and that Zexal's character's were amazing.

I also didn't mean that the characters "deserved" to come back, rather that the fact that their character arcs were so well developed (which you agreed upon) and the plot was so well written that it didn't feel wrong when their struggles finally end in a happy outcome. Again, it doesn't mean that everything prior to the ending never happened, it's that it happened that these characters can be happy in the end and I thought it was almost poetic in that manner.
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Ryuseishun said:


I've watched plenty of other series and have witnessed their feels moments. A lot of the characters who physically died in those series would certainly be a lot more deserving to come back than those from Zexal...but no, they stayed dead, even when the writers had the chance to revive them. I did genuinely liked Zexal, but not for how that ending played out, which is more unnerving considering you can make these kind of characters out of something in Futurama.

And saying I'm not good at being unbiased? Maybe, but if so, cause then there's actually no such thing as truly unbiased, and said term is just a biased one in itself.


No, I think you misunderstood. I wasn't calling you out on not being good at having an unbiased standpoint, I was merely pointing out that it is impossible to have an objective outlook when you've already completed the series in full since you'd be considering how the whole plot played out to get to that point in the ending. Hence, you can't really say that it didn't work from an unbiased standpoint. Again, personally I enjoyed how it played out, and much of the forum agrees from what I remembering reading when the show ended, so there doesn't seem to be much basis for your argument there which is why I pointed it out. Your opinion is your opinion, but you can't really speak for everyone else.

As well, it's not fair to compare zexal to a show like futurama, that actually began as a parody, but is hilarious in it's own right. You're comparing characters from another genre of television to the ending of another. In the same manner, I can say that Futurama definitely had their own issues with their ending and that Zexal's character's were amazing.

I also didn't mean that the characters "deserved" to come back, rather that the fact that their character arcs were so well developed (which you agreed upon) and the plot was so well written that it didn't feel wrong when their struggles finally end in a happy outcome. Again, it doesn't mean that everything prior to the ending never happened, it's that it happened that these characters can be happy in the end and I thought it was almost poetic in that manner.


Okay, I now understand your point a little better. It made more sense that Zexal’s ending was on a more poetic manner in that it wanted the viewers to have their happy ending, considering most of them are an audience who’d usually want happier endings. I mean, Yugioh series can’t really go on the same level as feels as something like Your Lie in April, Konohana, and Angel Beats (which were heartbreaking as hell).
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No, I think you misunderstood. I wasn't calling you out on not being good at having an unbiased standpoint, I was merely pointing out that it is impossible to have an objective outlook when you've already completed the series in full since you'd be considering how the whole plot played out to get to that point in the ending. Hence, you can't really say that it didn't work from an unbiased standpoint. Again, personally I enjoyed how it played out, and much of the forum agrees from what I remembering reading when the show ended, so there doesn't seem to be much basis for your argument there which is why I pointed it out. Your opinion is your opinion, but you can't really speak for everyone else.

As well, it's not fair to compare zexal to a show like futurama, that actually began as a parody, but is hilarious in it's own right. You're comparing characters from another genre of television to the ending of another. In the same manner, I can say that Futurama definitely had their own issues with their ending and that Zexal's character's were amazing.

I also didn't mean that the characters "deserved" to come back, rather that the fact that their character arcs were so well developed (which you agreed upon) and the plot was so well written that it didn't feel wrong when their struggles finally end in a happy outcome. Again, it doesn't mean that everything prior to the ending never happened, it's that it happened that these characters can be happy in the end and I thought it was almost poetic in that manner.


Okay, I now understand your point a little better. It made more sense that Zexal’s ending was on a more poetic manner in that it wanted the viewers to have their happy ending, considering most of them are an audience who’d usually want happier endings. I mean, Yugioh series can’t really go on the same level as feels as something like Your Lie in April, Konohana, and Angel Beats (which were heartbreaking as hell).


Right, I'd agree with that for the most part :) obviously one's feelings to a show is subjective so you can't really put it on a comparative scale, but those were some were very good series in their own respect.
Zexal was a really powerful underdog story, and as Yu-Gi-Oh!'s first beginner protagonist storyline, I found it very well executed and uplifting
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Arc-V's ending > Zexal's ending
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rio and vector fanfictions are a go


why ship something that made rio suffer
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Simple. Zexal was a soap opera with cringe dialog.
Both part 1 and 2 are a dissapoinment for me.

Zexal 1: 2/10
Zexal 2: 3/10

Also, that ending was just horrible AF.
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The ending I agree was a little stereotypical. I had a feeling that all the characters would be revived because in the end it is yugioh. For once I would like an actual sad ending but at the same time I don't (No GX doesn't count). When Kotori confessed I was surprised and even more surprised that Yuma knew and accepted it. Even thought this series is over, I am left wondering that if the series had continued who would be the new villain and what would be there motivation? Not as good as any of the older ones but still good. Hopefully Arc-V brings it back. 6.5/10
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Ending was to be expected. Not as good as GX or 5D's and I wish we would've gotten more screen time for character interactions.

Yuma going back and forth about what was most important to him was also bad and removes any sort of weight to his words. Kotori finally had done her role throughout the whole series and excused her being dead weight. As for Vector, I was actually glad to see him as a good guy, if not for the way he acted during their last duel.

If there's one good thing about this season, it's how the final fights were structured. It was also nice to see how the parts that I had brushed off as simply being dramatic were actually relevant to the plot and Yuma's character as a whole. Overall the series knew how to create good buildups, and not much else.
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That ending is well worth the pain of watching the whole thing. Might have been less frustrating with original voices but we'll never know.
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So Kotori does confesses at the end like I heard from the fans all these years.
In one hand, she is the only Yugioh heroin that doesn't duel, in the other hand, she is the only one that confesses her feelings to the protagonist, so that kinda redeems her in the eyes of part of the fandom.
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what a nice ending.
what, who's this new evil force?? what's attacking astral world?? noo you can't leave me like this, i need answers!! nooooo! i need more episodes!

people who didn't watch zexal past ep3 are missing out 🙄
good for them, they don't deserve this anime. it was really great. i enjoyed all the episodes. villains were great. Victor, Tron, Don Thosands meddling and his final form. , then we got the cool guys like shark and kite.
all the casts were great, i rate the show 10 cos enjoyment.
Yuma sucked in the beginning but eventually he turned out to be a great duelist. thooo he doesn't compare to the other MC of course but his on his own league. i wish they can cameo Yuma later in the new show somehow. that would be awesome.

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