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Mar 17, 2009 6:04 PM
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THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE.
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So, it's out today. Thought a discussion thread should be made.

Haven't seen it yet, though.
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Great episode.
Production I.G delivers once again.

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Mar 17, 2009 9:41 PM
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they'll have to animate that at some point.

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Mar 17, 2009 11:00 PM
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I cannot wait for next part...
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I'm really disappointed that they skipped over Fai's past so much. I mean, I know it was to be expected that they would focus on Nihon.. I just really wanted to see more about him. :(
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I like the art too much for this OAD that I took so many screenshots like every seconds!
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Ooooh, that was quite good! The whole Celes bit was awesome to see in motion, and all the little flashbacks throughout were some nice eye candy.

kurotsuki said:


The only minor disappointment I had was fight scene length as well. Part of me would've liked more of that fight, but I liked all of the stuff that they included aside from that, so I felt like it all balanced out.

So far.... this made a better impression on me than the first Tokyo Revelations OAD did. Anyone else?


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Suu said:


kurotsuki said:


The only minor disappointment I had was fight scene length as well. Part of me would've liked more of that fight, but I liked all of the stuff that they included aside from that, so I felt like it all balanced out.

So far.... this made a better impression on me than the first Tokyo Revelations OAD did. Anyone else?


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Wonderful episode, Production I.G delivers. They shortened a few thing but I guess that was to be expected >.<. I wish Shunraiki was at least 3 episodes, then they could fit in more flashbacks and not have to shorten some scenes.
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I'm really disappointed that they skipped over Fai's past so much. I mean, I know it was to be expected that they would focus on Nihon.. I just really wanted to see more about him. :(



I rage at that.

Moreso that they did not include Infinity, thus adding even moar confusiong for people.


Not happy with the op too, since song is way too pop-ish and sugary, not to mention some visuals looking silly (the only scene in the OP i loved were dream world one...)


Disappointing. Real disappointing. 4/5



As for overall ill rate this OVA caprice(for the lack of better word, since CLAMP chose Nihon instead of Infinity or Celes) as 7 or 6.

Might raise it till 8 latter on then they finally understand that Infinity and Celes must be animated
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I'm rooting for them to animate the headaches chapters ~

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I'm rooting for them to animate the headaches chapters ~



Not before Celes or Infinity.


They must animate those two before going anywhere else.


The start of OAD anoyed me greatly.... showing us the end of Celes....AS IF TO "HA HA" at those who wanted to see OADs on Celes and Infinity -.-
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I just realized that @15:21 is so funny!
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Even though I didn't have high expectations for this it was still very disappointing and the opening isn't that great either.

Damn. I want to see Celes animated even more now T_____T
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Ugh, they didn't animate Infinity and Celes and and that is a big mistake in my opinion .-. I was like 'wtf' at the beginning of the OVA -- if I hadn't read the manga I wouldn't have understood a thing!
I didn't like the OP -- both the song and the animation *sigh*
the lenght of the fighting scene was also disappointing /:
Well, those are the things I didn't like in this OVA
I hope the second part will be better ^^
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Tsubasa Chronicles? I thought that ended after season two. Is this season three or no?
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THERE IS NO SEASON ONE, OR A SEASON TWO.

Ah-hem. ;)

Yeah, I was wondering why they didn't animate Infinity, or Celes. I thought for definite that it would be animated. You know, cover the rest of the manga's arcs with decent OVAs. Looks like we were wrong. Doesn't make sense why they wouldn't animate it. Fai's big reveal, and all that.
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Tsubasa Chronicles? I thought that ended after season two. Is this season three or no?


It's just OADs of the series, not season 3. THERE'S NO SEASON 3!!

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THERE IS NO SEASON ONE, OR A SEASON TWO.

Ah-hem. ;)

Yeah, I was wondering why they didn't animate Infinity, or Celes. I thought for definite that it would be animated. You know, cover the rest of the manga's arcs with decent OVAs. Looks like we were wrong. Doesn't make sense why they wouldn't animate it. Fai's big reveal, and all that.


Well, I know the anime before wasn't good enough, but it's not bad enough to not call as seasons...
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Well, I know the anime before wasn't good enough, but it's not bad enough to not call as seasons...


What tsubasa anime? seasons? dude, No one knows what you are talking about.

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Yeah, I was wondering why they didn't animate Infinity, or Celes. I thought for definite that it would be animated. You know, cover the rest of the manga's arcs with decent OVAs. Looks like we were wrong. Doesn't make sense why they wouldn't animate it. Fai's big reveal, and all that.


MNy guess is that they will animate them later

For now they just wanted, rushed, to create holic/trc oads who actually cross over. This whole shunraiki/shunmuki, I guess you could call it a big caprice of "seeing crossovers".

I think tht there's quite a good chance that latter on we will get to see OAD on Infinity(man, that world would need like, 5 episodes) and OAD on Celes.
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Fai said:
tsubasalover said:

Well, I know the anime before wasn't good enough, but it's not bad enough to not call as seasons...


What tsubasa anime? seasons? dude, No one knows what you are talking about.



http://myanimelist.net/anime/177/Tsubasa_Chronicle

http://myanimelist.net/anime/969/Tsubasa_Chronicle_2nd_Series
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Fai said:
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I'm really disappointed that they skipped over Fai's past so much. I mean, I know it was to be expected that they would focus on Nihon.. I just really wanted to see more about him. :(



I rage at that.

Moreso that they did not include Infinity, thus adding even moar confusiong for people.


Not happy with the op too, since song is way too pop-ish and sugary, not to mention some visuals looking silly (the only scene in the OP i loved were dream world one...)


Disappointing. Real disappointing. 4/5

As for overall ill rate this OVA caprice(for the lack of better word, since CLAMP chose Nihon instead of Infinity or Celes) as 7 or 6.

Might raise it till 8 latter on then they finally understand that Infinity and Celes must be animated


Say WHAT :O?! Are you kidding me? :(

Since I knew in advance that the likelihood of the OADs including Infinity and Ceres was extremely low, I learned to get pass that and embraced whatever they gave us. And boy did I embrace it!

I'm surprised with your reaction Fai-san, I absolutely loved it..the whole thing just kept me at the edge of my seat. I loved every bit of it and that includes the opening and ending. Although I might be a bit biased since I downloaded both songs weeks ago, and I love them both too.

I love how the opening animation is intuned/inbeat with the song, I thought it was a unique way to start things off, just like how the xxxholic shunmuki had a unique opening. The ending was great too, I like how the scenes froze in beat with the song too. Sure it's not really an animated ending, but I find it's a bit more interesting than the sloooow panning animation we got in xxxholic shunmuki's ending.

I dunno man, in comparison to xxxholic shunmuki, I was absolutely impressed with how much was crammed in this one episode. Yes, the keyword is "cram", which can be interpreted as a bad thing....which it is. But what do you expect? We only have two episodes, and I think they did a very good job at putting everything together without cutting too much out (excluding Infinity and Ceres I mean) and the flashbacks were brilliantly used. Seriously, every few minutes I'll find myself looking at how much time has passed and I'll be shocked when more and more things came up in such a short period of time.

I got 4.5/6 things I wanted. The conversation between Kurogane and Tomoyo, conversation betwee Fai and Tomoyo, flashback of Fai crying for Kurogane when they get to Nihon, Sakura and Watanuki meeting (although I'm disappointed their conversation wasn't included, hence the 0.5..maybe it'll be in the next episode), and the epic battle between the two Syaorans and what happens after :(

There are so many details that I loved about this episode...but I think my post is long enough XD

But I do feel sorry for those who didn't read the manga, they must be really confused......and speaking of manga, any manga reader wanna remind me why the gang went to Ceres again? I'm having a total brain fart....it has to do with paying a price for something right...? Or was it to get Sakura's body....wait..I think that's it. Am I right?
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Say WHAT :O?! Are you kidding me? :(



No I am not.

Yes I understand that Nihon was needed as some sort of epilogue for Celes, but it was entirely bland, uninspiring and boring world with random encounters(except, till you know what happens).

I could totally have lived WITHOUT Nihon oad, but with Infinity or Celes OADs instead. Or if Celes and Infinity won't be animated - who needs Nihon OAD? I for sure do not.

Thus I view this whole "shunraiki/shunmuki" oad bs as a huge ego caprice to "create something animated in which holic and trc would have crossovers".

Still waiting for Infinity OAD and Celes OAD.

If no news will come, I will happily continue raging upon this "thing".
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Fai said:
robbydesu said:

Say WHAT :O?! Are you kidding me? :(



No I am not.

Yes I understand that Nihon was needed as some sort of epilogue for Celes, but it was entirely bland, uninspiring and boring world with random encounters(except, till you know what happens).

I could totally have lived WITHOUT Nihon oad, but with Infinity or Celes OADs instead. Or if Celes and Infinity won't be animated - who needs Nihon OAD? I for sure do not.

Thus I view this whole "shunraiki/shunmuki" oad bs as a huge ego caprice to "create something animated in which holic and trc would have crossovers".

Still waiting for Infinity OAD and Celes OAD.

If no news will come, I will happily continue raging upon this "thing".


lol don't get me wrong here though, I'm not a big fan of Nihon arc either, in fact I was really disappointed when I found out the OADs are going to to focus on the Nihon arc. Infinity is my favourite, and Ceres definitely revealed a lot about Fai. When I was reading the manga, I thought the whole fight between Seishirou and Syaoran in Nihon was pointless and a waste of time.

It's just that I like to appreciate what IS done, I mean they did put the effort and time into it...why not just enjoy it? They actually made the somewhat boring arc exciting to watch

Relaaaax and enjoy the view :P
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Does anyone know where I can find this episode with english subs? I've tried searching on google, but I couldn't find it :'(

Arigato ;)
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Does anyone know where I can find this episode with english subs? I've tried searching on google, but I couldn't find it :'(

Arigato ;)

The likelihood of finding any subs atm may be quite low it's only been 6 days since it came out :P I'm afraid you'll have to wait a bit longer

ACG was pretty quick in subbing xxxholic shunmuki, although it wasn't so great...I dunno if they are planning on subbing shunraiki but maybe you can keep an eye out for them :)
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robbydesu said:
little_stARE said:
Does anyone know where I can find this episode with english subs? I've tried searching on google, but I couldn't find it :'(

Arigato ;)

The likelihood of finding any subs atm may be quite low it's only been 6 days since it came out :P I'm afraid you'll have to wait a bit longer

ACG was pretty quick in subbing xxxholic shunmuki, although it wasn't so great...I dunno if they are planning on subbing shunraiki but maybe you can keep an eye out for them :)


Ok thanks a lot :)
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I'm actually thinking of reading the manga series as opposed to watching the anime for Tsubasa Chronicles. I'm sure there were some arcs left out for the anime series and I'd really like to watch them all.

Does anyone know where to begin the manga series, approximately after Tsubasa Chronicles #2 ends with the original Shaoran (spelt wrong) appears? Thank you. ^^

I'm rather confused about the Shaoran x Sakura story. Does he still love her the same? If the two become one, which heart would dominate? I can't believe Fui (spelt wrong again, aha) lost his eye to him, and became a 'vampire'. And what was that flashback of Card Captor Sakura that appeared to help Sakura of Tsubasa Chronicles out? Rather confusing indeed. :0
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DearSky said:

Does anyone know where to begin the manga series, approximately after Tsubasa Chronicles #2 ends with the original Shaoran (spelt wrong) appears? Thank you. ^^


Three things:
1. Story-wise "Tsubasa Chronicles #2" ends in episode 42.
2. Chapter 106 is the "right end" for episode 42.


So read from chapter 106.
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Fai said:
Three things:
1. Story-wise "Tsubasa Chronicles #2" ends in episode 42.
2. Chapter 106 is the "right end" for episode 42.

So read from chapter 106.

Thanks, Fai! :)
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Sorry, but I have very stupid question ^^
Where is the story about Celes? At first in oav it was how it ended, but when is whole 'story'? It's fall short of story about land with this 'game', who read the manga, should know, what I mean...
I watching 2 series Tsubasa + tsubasa tokyo revelations, but I don't watch something?

Sorry for the bad english ^^

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Sorry, but I have very stupid question ^^
Where is the story about Celes? At first in oav it was how it ended, but when is whole 'story'? It's fall short of story about land with this 'game', who read the manga, should know, what I mean...
I watching 2 series Tsubasa + tsubasa tokyo revelations, but I don't watch something?

Sorry for the bad english ^^


If you're wondering about where to watch the Infinity (the game one) and Celes arcs, sadly they are not in the anime nor the OAVs/OADs. The OAD cut them both out :(

Story-wise, the Infinity and Ceres arcs go right after Tsubasa Tokyo Revelations and before Tsubasa Shunraiki, if you want to know the stories, the only way is to read the manga :)

I hope that helps~
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I was decent...
I'm still pissed that they skipped Celes :/
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I absolutely loved it since Nihon's my favourite arc.

I am a little upset that we don't get to see Celes and Infinity animated, but at least we get something so just be happy.

The ED was ok, but the OP is great. Then again, I love anything by Maaya Sakamoto.
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From memory, pretty much 4/5ths of the celes arc is flashbacks of fais past, and that doesn't make for an exciting enough story to market. It makes sense to just provide flashbacks of celes, even though we did miss the majority of the Ashura/Fai/Kuro fight. However, I can't help but feel for the poor viewers who don't know what happened in the infinity arc, must be so confusing for them.
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I'm really confusing here. Yet, I still enjoy it. I only read the manga from chapter 203 I think so I don't know what Infinity and Celes arc is about. When the episode start, I was like "huh" what the heck. Then when I thought I know what is going on, suddenly got many unknown flashback from the so call Celes arc.

This episode's event is just too sudden for me as a only anime and OVA watcher. Like why the groups are there,why Kurogane need to cut his arm to take Fay with him,why Watanaki from XXXholic appeared,why Sakura in the dream again...... I agree with those who say the fight scene is short. I actually quite surprise as the real Syaoran just introduced from the previous OVA and now suddenly facing a strong/very strong enemy and got pretty bad beaten. What I mean is that why so fast show real Syaoran fight Seishirou when we just know him in the previous OVA. We don't even know much about real Syaoran yet. I hope it clear out the confusion in the future by having both Infinity and Celes arc animated. I love both the opening and clsoing as well.

The reason why I think they animate this one first instead of Infinity and Celes arc is because of something like there's some relationship between the XXXholic arc and this one,something like both arc are conneted to one another(haven't watch the OVA for XXXholic yet). I think it's been mention by someone,I'm sorry about that.

Looking forward for next episode which is still long even thought I'm still confused.
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From memory, pretty much 4/5ths of the celes arc is flashbacks of fais past, and that doesn't make for an exciting enough story to market


You do know that, that is enough to call you a troll? :/


Celes was awesome. FACT.
Infinity was awesome. FACT.


Hence they both should have OADs.
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I'm really confusing here. Yet, I still enjoy it. I only read the manga from chapter 203 I think so I don't know what Infinity and Celes arc is about. When the episode start, I was like "huh" what the heck. Then when I thought I know what is going on, suddenly got many unknown flashback from the so call Celes arc.

This episode's event is just too sudden for me as a only anime and OVA watcher. Like why the groups are there,why Kurogane need to cut his arm to take Fay with him,why Watanaki from XXXholic appeared,why Sakura in the dream again...... I agree with those who say the fight scene is short. I actually quite surprise as the real Syaoran just introduced from the previous OVA and now suddenly facing a strong/very strong enemy and got pretty bad beaten. What I mean is that why so fast show real Syaoran fight Seishirou when we just know him in the previous OVA. We don't even know much about real Syaoran yet. I hope it clear out the confusion in the future by having both Infinity and Celes arc animated. I love both the opening and clsoing as well.


I don't think it's reasonable to complain about whether or not it's too soon to have R!Syaoran in a fight when there are clearly two arcs before this fight. I think jsut he easy way out is to read the manga :D yay! Then hope for OVAs >_>...

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From memory, pretty much 4/5ths of the celes arc is flashbacks of fais past, and that doesn't make for an exciting enough story to market


You do know that, that is enough to call you a troll? :/


Celes was awesome. FACT.
Infinity was awesome. FACT.


Hence they both should have OADs.


Wait what troll?! どこ?!And how does that make one a troll? o__o?
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I thought it was very good but the OVA skipped at least two arcs. Though they attempt to recap the Celes arc, I'm afraid that those who haven't read the manga will be a little confused.
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My expectations about the OVA was good. In general this OVA was excellent. the beginnig was good. And some of thepart that I didnt understand in the manga, I understand in this OVA.

I think in next OVA will telll about CSakura..
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Something don't make sense to my.
When Fai gave his source of power to Yuuko he make himself weaker so now Sayorne, Kurogane, Sakura Tomoyu and even Mokuna have more spiritual/magic power then him so why the course doesn't start and make him want to kill everyone?
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Something don't make sense to my.
When Fai gave his source of power to Yuuko he make himself weaker so now Sayorne, Kurogane, Sakura Tomoyu and even Mokuna have more spiritual/magic power then him so why the course doesn't start and make him want to kill everyone?

I'm sorry, can you re-word it? I don't understand what you mean by "so why the course doesn't start and make him want to kill everyone"
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I've meant curse, the one that Fei Wong Reed put on him.
The curse make him kill anyone with stronger magical powers.
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I've meant curse, the one that Fei Wong Reed put on him.
The curse make him kill anyone with stronger magical powers.


Cant it be because of his new vampire powers that are uber?

Anyway, IMO it was a good one, even though they did some crappy flashbacks to Celes. The music too was fantastic as ever. I cannot wait to see the 2nd episode.

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no they are don't matter.
I got crazy in the cheese world and then he already had the Vampire blood in him.
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Not really a reader of the manga so am I more then a little confused, especially the events at the beginning, but still really enjoyed it! :P

Fai's punch was great! But Fuuma kinda came out of nowhere with the delivery, and then Fai losing the last of his magic :'(

Seishirou shows how amazing he is again and Tomoyo too... but lol poor Kurogane, everyone ganging up on him!

I was a little surprised when real Syaoran told Watanuki not to disappear in xxxHOLiC Shunmuki, so seeing him speak to Sakura, through dreams in this one, was cool yet even more strange.

Favourite part was Syaoran's entrance at the end! (even if he's a baddie now :P)
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They skipped both Infinity and Celes? This is pretty disapointing..I was really looking forward to seeing fai's past.
Oh well overall the episode was decent.
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I've meant curse, the one that Fei Wong Reed put on him.
The curse make him kill anyone with stronger magical powers.


Because logically, it was one-time curse,

Ashura even took Fai with himself, to make sure that the curse is used on him and not someone else.
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