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Nov 28, 2013 11:52 AM
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From episode 1
http://oi43.tinypic.com/2e5jf29.jpg
http://oi41.tinypic.com/2k4ro.jpg
http://oi44.tinypic.com/axb21y.jpg
http://oi41.tinypic.com/2qk6u14.jpg

That's when Hazama was spouting stuff about heroes and heroics and stuff at the end of the episode.
Place your bets.

Some other mysteries the show have are Gotou's girlfriend and her role in all of this, and this:
http://www.waoanime.tv/images/1380854258.jpg
(not a mystery, but thought I'd share it nonetheless)
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I have a gut feeling that he is King Torture, I did not drop this show, but I just wanted to place my bet.
Nov 28, 2013 12:27 PM
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Thanks for relieving me , was so depressed after watching this episode. Hmm , he might be King Torture. This kid and Samumenco's outfit are the only thing that's keeping me away from dropping.
"Children of Japan. And those who were once children. Listen! This is not a dream. This is not fiction. In reality, your superheroes were always fighting. To teach viewers courage and the meaning of justice! No matter how many enemies there are. No matter how strong evil is. Just remember. Does any another country have so many heroes? Has any another country been protected by multiple superheroes? Stand with me, friends! Remember when you used to watch your superheroes!
Once you may have given up this dream. But today, you can be a hero!"

- Kaname Jouji , Red Axe

Nov 28, 2013 12:35 PM
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Yeah the new outfit is pretty cool.
http://i44.tinypic.com/2bp1yp.png
Wonder if Gotou will get one..
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Nov 28, 2013 12:54 PM
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I probably would have dropped this harder than my life if it wasn't being directed by the person who is directing this.


There was a split second where I thought Jouji was King Torture. I'm not sure why though.


Just rewatched the first episode. At first I thought that Sawada kid was kind of admiring SF?
But he's also so subtly put in the background that it's kind of creepy too.
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Torture's voice did remind me of Joji when he started talking, but looking at the promo above, Joji should be the pink ranger flamenco. And him standing behind and is big makes me think of some relation between them.

That kid might appear as an ally as well.
Nov 28, 2013 1:34 PM
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Sawada is just a kid that Hazama influenced, his purpose was being the first person who listened to Hazama's words.
Candor said:
That pink flamenco is totally Joji:
http://i41.tinypic.com/2vjeuk0.png
http://henshinjustice.com/hjublog/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/samurai_flamenco1.jpg

And his "trips" smell fishy.

He is Red Axe, that is his costume from the TV show.

Btw I am not dropping the show or anything (never even thought about it) I'm just here for the speculation.
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Nov 28, 2013 2:03 PM
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I will randomly bet that the manager with the glasses is King Torture. He bullies and harasses Hazama's manager (forgot her name) over the phone and during meetings, and he is somewhat a threat to exposing Hazama and Samumenco's identy. The real identity of Samurai Flamenco has been an issue since episode 1.
Okay, so the female ranger with the Moon sign is a tricky business :) We now that girlfriends are serious business in tokusatsu, but we have seen a magical shoujo sentai like Sailor Moon, and the manager is another assertive chick. I am not clear which one of fem chara would take the spot eventually, but let the mindfuck begin :D
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I'm not dropping, i just think this was one of the worst handled twists possible, ill finish it i just dont expect to like it

I just assumed that kid was gonna be a supporter of hazama somewhere down the line

And king torture will probably be something fucking stupid like one of hazama's parents or his grandad or something

Immahnoob said:
Jizzy, I know you have no idea how to argue for shit,

tokiyashiro said:

Jizzy as you would call yourself because youre a dick The most butthurt award goes to you And clearly you havent watched that many shows thats why you cant determine if a show is unique or not Or maybe you're just a child who likes common stuffs where hero saves the day and guys gets all the girls. Sad taste you have there kid you came up to me in the first place making you look more like a kid who got slapped without me even knowing it and start crying about it to me

Nov 28, 2013 6:23 PM
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You know I'm starting to think Noitamina shows are cursed.

Guilty Crown, Robotic Notes, BRS, Fractale, C, Galilei Donna and now this appear to have more haters than fans. Even Psycho Pass was hated but not as much as the other shows. I don't know but I think people just come into these shows with too high expectations.

I hate the twist myself but I'm interested in how everythings gonna turn out.
Nov 28, 2013 6:29 PM

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You know I'm starting to think Noitamina shows are cursed.

Guilty Crown, Robotic Notes, BRS, Fractale, C, Galilei Donna and now this appear to have more haters than fans. Even Psycho Pass was hated but not as much as the other shows. I don't know but I think people just come into these shows with too high expectations.
psycho pass was hated? The people that dislike it are just a vocal minority, hell they arent even that vocal, its pretty much just renders who doesnt shut up about it

Immahnoob said:
Jizzy, I know you have no idea how to argue for shit,

tokiyashiro said:

Jizzy as you would call yourself because youre a dick The most butthurt award goes to you And clearly you havent watched that many shows thats why you cant determine if a show is unique or not Or maybe you're just a child who likes common stuffs where hero saves the day and guys gets all the girls. Sad taste you have there kid you came up to me in the first place making you look more like a kid who got slapped without me even knowing it and start crying about it to me

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Black2knight said:
You know I'm starting to think Noitamina shows are cursed.

Guilty Crown, Robotic Notes, BRS, Fractale, C, Galilei Donna and now this appear to have more haters than fans. Even Psycho Pass was hated but not as much as the other shows. I don't know but I think people just come into these shows with too high expectations.

I hate the twist myself but I'm interested in how everythings gonna turn out.


This episode, the writing was totally off and people reacted like as 12 year-olds wrote the script. I even enjoyed Guilty Crown and for a certaint extent, C. If this keep up, will drop. It's a shame since I honestly enjoyed the first seven episodes.

I love psycho pass though, even it's not on my top 10 list. There's some gems on noitaminA such as Silver Spoon, Katanagatari, Appollon, Anohana, and one of my all-time favorite, Shiki.
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ThePimp said:
I have a gut feeling that he is King Torture, I did not drop this show, but I just wanted to place my bet.


Riez said:
Thanks for relieving me , was so depressed after watching this episode. Hmm , he might be King Torture. This kid and Samumenco's outfit are the only thing that's keeping me away from dropping.


That's exactly what I was thinking, guys! King Torture might be that Red Axe guy.

JizzyHitler said:
Black2knight said:
You know I'm starting to think Noitamina shows are cursed.

Guilty Crown, Robotic Notes, BRS, Fractale, C, Galilei Donna and now this appear to have more haters than fans. Even Psycho Pass was hated but not as much as the other shows. I don't know but I think people just come into these shows with too high expectations.
psycho pass was hated? The people that dislike it are just a vocal minority, hell they arent even that vocal, its pretty much just renders who doesnt shut up about it


That's funny, guys. I liked Psycho-Pass. Since that show give Guilty Crown to shame (I mean I was disappointing after the show ends even though I've obsessed with that show after 4 episodes.). Hell, I rather watched these several shows from Noitamina than mainstream ones (mostly Attack On Titan, SAO, Kuroko & ETC).

Anyway, Samurai Flamenco is produced by Manglobe (Samurai Champloo). NOT Production IG.
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For some reason I keep thinking Hazama's grandfather is involved. Like he wanted a real life superhero so bad he manipulated/pushed Hazama from a young age into becoming it, and now that Hazama's settled in, he's going to push it further.

I always thought it was too convenient his grandfather's friend just so happened to drop off all that Flamenco stuff from his childhood around the same time Hazama was on the edge of making that next step.
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Nov 29, 2013 7:49 AM

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I haven't dropped this and I'm not planning to do so, since it's only 20 minutes a week and it's been pretty enjoyable so far

I believe that King Torture is a minor character from past episodes (like in the Incredibles movie) or someone related to Hazama's grandfather
Nov 29, 2013 9:27 AM
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I was so sure they were just recording while watching the last episode's last few minutes.
Here's why:
http://prntscr.com/27hcvy
http://prntscr.com/27hd2k
http://prntscr.com/27hdaf
http://prntscr.com/27hdkb
http://prntscr.com/27hds1
http://prntscr.com/27hebq
http://prntscr.com/27hehp
http://prntscr.com/27hfz2

Anyone else noticed this at the 20 minute mark? The Gorilla supposedly hit him but his hand actually flew past him. Then flamenco went flying away... Like they do for filming those scenes in the movies. I was so convinced. Then this..

Not dropping this but if this theme is real and keeps up, Ill just rip some off my 9 star rating and if I recommend this to someone, I'll tell 'em to stop at episode 7.

Edit: Just watching part of ep1 to check the OP's images. Makes me sad how much they deviated from that story line and that its no longer the show I initially didn't want to watch but it turned out to be great. Now its what i feared it would become.
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I was so sure they were just recording while watching the last episode's last few minutes.
Here's why:
http://prntscr.com/27hcvy
http://prntscr.com/27hd2k
http://prntscr.com/27hdaf
http://prntscr.com/27hdkb
http://prntscr.com/27hds1
http://prntscr.com/27hebq
http://prntscr.com/27hehp
http://prntscr.com/27hfz2

Anyone else noticed this at the 20 minute mark? The Gorilla supposedly hit him but his hand actually flew past him. Then flamenco went flying away... Like they do for filming those scenes in the movies. I was so convinced. Then this..

Not dropping this but if this theme is real and keeps up, Ill just rip some off my 9 star rating and if I recommend this to someone, I'll tell 'em to stop at episode 7.

Edit: Just watching part of ep1 to check the OP's images. Makes me sad how much they deviated from that story line and that its no longer the show I initially didn't want to watch but it turned out to be great. Now its what i feared it would become.

Your just looking too far into poor animation, really the animation in the past 2 episodes have been about as bad as blazblue alter memory's

Also we need to stop fighting what the series has become, sure its lost all its uniqueness but the most recent episode was alot more entertaining and funny than people are letting on, some of the jokes are really clever like how hazama is fighting only 1 monster a week, or how the monster's goals got progressively less threatening(how can you not like the serpant that's plan was to legally buy all the fruit)

Flamenco has gone from the funny deconstruction of the sentai series put into a real world setting and is not a gag comedy sentai parody,

If anything im amazed how many people are taking the newest episode seriously, It was all a bunch of jokes and over the top humor

Immahnoob said:
Jizzy, I know you have no idea how to argue for shit,

tokiyashiro said:

Jizzy as you would call yourself because youre a dick The most butthurt award goes to you And clearly you havent watched that many shows thats why you cant determine if a show is unique or not Or maybe you're just a child who likes common stuffs where hero saves the day and guys gets all the girls. Sad taste you have there kid you came up to me in the first place making you look more like a kid who got slapped without me even knowing it and start crying about it to me

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JizzyHitler said:

If anything im amazed how many people are taking the newest episode seriously, It was all a bunch of jokes and over the top humor

Except the part about Goto/Goto's gf noticing the change occurring in Hazama as a result of defeating those wacky henchmen and the fact that it's part of King torture's plan.
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VioLink said:
JizzyHitler said:

If anything im amazed how many people are taking the newest episode seriously, It was all a bunch of jokes and over the top humor

Except the part about Goto/Goto's gf noticing the change occurring in Hazama as a result of defeating those wacky henchmen and the fact that it's part of King torture's plan.
king torutre's plan still felt like a joke to me, cause in all sentai shows they ALWAYS have some extra plan when they are getting their ass kicked. King torture as a whole feels like a giant joke towards sentai shows even down to his name and how his entire purpose is to sit in a secluded room and pout

Goto's GF seemed like its kind of serious though

Immahnoob said:
Jizzy, I know you have no idea how to argue for shit,

tokiyashiro said:

Jizzy as you would call yourself because youre a dick The most butthurt award goes to you And clearly you havent watched that many shows thats why you cant determine if a show is unique or not Or maybe you're just a child who likes common stuffs where hero saves the day and guys gets all the girls. Sad taste you have there kid you came up to me in the first place making you look more like a kid who got slapped without me even knowing it and start crying about it to me

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Candor said:

Some other mysteries the show have are Gotou's girlfriend and her role in all of this, and this:
http://www.waoanime.tv/images/1380854258.jpg
(not a mystery, but thought I'd share it nonetheless)


Hmmm, well with the new cast revealed to the audience. I think I can somewhat link it to that picture.


The new cast is :-
Hekiru Midorikawa
Momoi Sakura
Souichi Aoshima
Anji Kuroki

You will notice each of them have color in their names.
Hekiru Midorikawa has Midori which is green.
Momoi Sakura has Momoiro which is pink, and Sakura is pink too.
Souichi Aoshima has Ao which is blue
Anji Kuroki has Kuro which is black

Source for new cast:
http://www.crunchyroll.com/anime-news/2013/12/07/meet-the-new-samurai-flamenco-cast

Source for new cast with voice actor info:
http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2013-12-10/kenn-yukari-tamura-showtaro-morikubo-toshiyuki-toyonaga-join-samurai-flamenco-cast

I'm just going on my guts here, the color scheme seems to follow that of Super Sentai and the lot.


So matching the name with that promotional poster you posted, if you look to the bottom right, you can see an ensemble of rangers with numbers on their face.
I can see a Pink Ranger, Blue Ranger, Green Ranger, Yellow Ranger and Red Ranger.

Here's a picture with slightly bigger scale:
http://prntscr.com/2a39l2

Also during episode 5, something similar to the above has already appeared

The same color scheme as the picture above:
http://prntscr.com/2a3aq1

The same number sequence as the picture above:
http://prntscr.com/2a3asl

This might be in fact a cameo appearance by the voice actors of the new cast. Doesn't have to be the actual character, just voice to tease their future appearance.

The Black Ranger on the other hand might be the identity of the person wearing the black suit with the Kitsune Moon helmet, located at the bottom left of the picture.

All this are just speculation and I hope I'm right about a few things at least, only the episode will tell for sure.
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You totally called it, nice job did not see it coming
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I noticed him too back then and thought he might come back.
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I noticed him too back then and thought he might come back.


That's what I've been said! I've been overanalyzed this all the time in every episode & it finally happened! Damn, I feel like I'm throwing my drink to the screen & nothing is happening!

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You totally called it, nice job did not see it coming


QUOTED FOR FUCKING TRUTH! Only 3 episodes to go & the nightmare will be over!
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So what happened? 'cause I kinda stopped caring about the series. Spoil it.
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Candor said:
So what happened? 'cause I kinda stopped caring about the series. Spoil it.

Just watch the newest episode already!
Go!! You deserve it!
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Danpmss said:
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So what happened? 'cause I kinda stopped caring about the series. Spoil it.

Just watch the newest episode already!
Go!! You deserve it!


Yeah, obviously!!
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So what happened? 'cause I kinda stopped caring about the series. Spoil it.


a lot
Mar 11, 2014 7:57 PM
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So according to what I read and saw, they met God and now Goto is a psycho. Man the weed is strong in this one.
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Candor said:
So according to what I read and saw, they met God and now Goto is a psycho. Man the weed is strong in this one.




This is beyond weed.
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gedata said:
Candor said:
So according to what I read and saw, they met God and now Goto is a psycho. Man the weed is strong in this one.




This is beyond weed.


THAT is why I started to care this series so much.

But I still cannot believe NO one cares!

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Who the hell is the mysterious Haiji Sawada anyway?!

That little runt was already dead due to his illness and so Gotou's Girlfriend!
Mar 14, 2014 12:36 AM
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*cricket sounds*

Why am I the only person here in this thread?
Mar 14, 2014 12:48 AM
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Because this thread was made in November and the show has spiraled downward since then.
Mar 15, 2014 11:35 AM
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Yea back when we had some hopes for the show.
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Because this thread was made in November and the show has spiraled downward since then.


LOL! This - This is also why less and less people are voting or discussing in the episode discussions.
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Yea back when we had some hopes for the show.


KyonSmith78 said:
parfaited said:
Because this thread was made in November and the show has spiraled downward since then.


LOL! This - This is also why less and less people are voting or discussing in the episode discussions.


I can't believe you guys just said & you were always sit there & take it as an excuses over superhero influences like Tiger & Bunny.

I've been actually caring for the series so much since the start, guys.

I've been speculating, speculating, speculating in every episodes but sometimes I freaking called it. cause others said so.

You'll never see it coming, guys.
You'll never see it coming.

Bur I'll be damned IF this show ended up in a massive cliffhanger.
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You'll never see it coming, guys.
You'll never see it coming.
Never see what coming? That Hazama is a psycho as well and everything that has been happening is in his mind to get over his grandfather's death? (or whoever/whatever was in that scene in episode 7) That'd be the only attempt to fix this mess, and it still won't do anything.They went really far with making this overly ridiculous to make us care for anything anymore.
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Candor said:
JeffreyZin said:

You'll never see it coming, guys.
You'll never see it coming.
Never see what coming? That Hazama is a psycho as well and everything that has been happening is in his mind to get over his grandfather's death? (or whoever/whatever was in that scene in episode 7) That'd be the only attempt to fix this mess, and it still won't do anything.They went really far with making this overly ridiculous to make us care for anything anymore.


The ending would be Hazama going to a mental hospital and while being brought there, he would glance to all other characters crossing path with him.
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Candor said:
JeffreyZin said:

You'll never see it coming, guys.
You'll never see it coming.
Never see what coming? That Hazama is a psycho as well and everything that has been happening is in his mind to get over his grandfather's death? (or whoever/whatever was in that scene in episode 7) That'd be the only attempt to fix this mess, and it still won't do anything.They went really far with making this overly ridiculous to make us care for anything anymore.


The ending would be Hazama going to a mental hospital and while being brought there, he would glance to all other characters crossing path with him.


This would make the most logical sense and conclusion. He will start screaming..."but you and the Flamenco Girls" and then they'll look at him like what? what are you talking about we are just an idol group?...etc.

I think it would bring me to laughter and repeating Flamenco over and over...that's for sure.
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This would make the most logical sense and conclusion. He will start screaming..."but you and the Flamenco Girls" and then they'll look at him like what? what are you talking about we are just an idol group?...etc.

I think it would bring me to laughter and repeating Flamenco over and over...that's for sure.


Then again, How so? We seen Jun Kaname getting run down by a truck, the rest of flamengers is in grave danger I mean seriously, that lunatic really walking among us now!! It was Haiji Sawada all along who've been haunting Hazama & others down!

THIS MAKES ME WANNA GIVE A BIG "FUCK YOU" TO THAT CRAZY LUNATIC SAWADA HAIJI. OBVIOUSLY.

THAT'S IT!!

I feel like I wanna throw something at the monitor right now because of 'TRUE' story.

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The ending would be Hazama going to a mental hospital and while being brought there, he would glance to all other characters crossing path with him.


Good grief, I hope so. SIGH.... I feel like I wanna kill myself here.

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Candor said:
Never see what coming? That Hazama is a psycho as well and everything that has been happening is in his mind to get over his grandfather's death? (or whoever/whatever was in that scene in episode 7) That'd be the only attempt to fix this mess, and it still won't do anything.They went really far with making this overly ridiculous to make us care for anything anymore.


Wait a minute, what?! Hold on!

I was talking so many Plot twist in every single episodes over & over till we won't know what's gonna happen next.

I told you, this just gets me nerves all the time till I started care this series so much (with many Tokusatsu tropes in a few eps), for god's sake.

God, I'm speechless over what just happened. sigh...

Typical Myanimelist.
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Chill out, don't take it personal. It's just a theory I read which made no sense.
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Candor said:
Chill out, don't take it personal. It's just a theory I read which made no sense.


Dude, this is myanimelist forum. I'm free to voice my thoughts, reactions & opinions over this anime just as much as you are while waiting for the final episode.

Really, how can this get any worse?! that little bastard Haiji really hurts me a lot because of the injustice and foul play he used from the start. Now for what he did to Moe, Mizuki & Gotou is totally unforgivable & it really took me to my climax. I felt so sorry for them that my world just collapsed.

My guess that the final episode will ended when:-

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So, um, what happened?
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Candor said:
So, um, what happened?


I guess you never seen the last episode & I friggin told you so!!



I don't care IF I wanna over-reacting this show all the time because I really care about this all the time. Even other anime out there rather than just sit there & take it as an excuses over bad writing, dumb characters, weak plot & etc.
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I can't believe people on myanimelist were like 'We don't care.

NO matter how many questions that I've been raised in a series discussion thread on every anime like this one and so is Kill La Kill, still left unanswered.

Talked about an unfinished business. I guess I have no heart to do so...
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I can't believe people on myanimelist were like 'We don't care.

NO matter how many questions that I've been raised in a series discussion thread on every anime like this one and so is Kill La Kill, still left unanswered.

Talked about an unfinished business. I guess I have no heart to do so...
Story/writing-wise KlK is not better than SF (inb4 fanboys), but KlK at least has something different and interesting to afford, which is the unique art-style (which dissolved completely as the plot went worse, but still), and at some points pretty good animation. Samurai Flamenco failed in everythng and I doubt people care about such a fail project. Unless they enjoy everything that's thrown at them, and there are a lot of people like that, so..
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Well now I'm making too much drama rather than posting my opinions, guys.

That's right, Dramas & opinions are different here. I just realized it, guys. Seriously.

Even though this show has so many random moments alot.
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Just let it die dude.
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Keep track of your anime easily by creating your own list.
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