My Youth Romantic Comedy Is Wrong, As I Expected (light novel)
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| I can't say Yui is completely blameless, but Hikki is on fault here and while i did felt as bad (if not worse ) for him, this is not something that ca be denied. |
| @bloodynightsky Just like Hikki,Yui also has her share of weakness, mostly a confidence problem. While she don't explicitly show her feelings often,she did a lot of flags (baked a hella love shaped cake for him - although with excuse, she asked his number while blushing, etc),but she isn't brave enough to give anything explicit. The thing is : it's normal to not explicitly show your feeling and just thrown a lot of vague flags instead. Too bad,it's simply become boomerang against someone like Hachiman.That's why she also always keep the accident to him, probably waiting until she has a good timing to be honest about it (and most likely her own feeling, too). They're not suitable for romantic relationship for now, but relationship between Hikki and Yukinon needs even a bigger push since Yukinon probably is more problematic than Hikki. I can imagine a real life relationship between those two probability of couple, but they will need a lot of maturity before they could work. But... ainky said: zeroyuki92 said: Btw, I am getting a Minorin vibe in Yui,and that's a good thing for me and a bad thing for her (if you have seen Minorin's love life in Toradora) youmustbekidding...I hope not! ...Yukinon is the poster girl for the series (although not as blatant as Taiga), so naturally she has a bigger chance to be the main love interest of Hikki. Minorin and Yui also has similar personality in one thing :If they know that |
| Im LOVING this anime more and more with each passing episode! I know this is the 5th episode but i just wanna say that I LOVE THE CHARACTER DESIGN! The girls look absolutely stunning, i just love both their design so much. They both look so beautiful trying on the different outfits this week <3 The ending was really well done, Hikky made a lot of good points such as a kind person is always kind to others as well. As if that wasn't a good enough episode, the ED this week, the yui ballad version, is definitely the icing on the cake. It fits so well to the situation. The new animation along with the song fits so well together. Had high expectation of this show since episode 1 and it seems i wasnt wrong. I know the anime hasnt ended yet but i wished it will keep getting higher up the position in MAL. I cant wait for the next episode! |
| Damnit 80000, I know that feel bro. If he was real we would be on the same path to wizardry. It's indeed probably easier with "cold" girls: if they appreciate you there won't be any doubt about it. However it could take a long time for such a change of behavior to occur. |
| That monologue at the end was very sad, but also very true... I could completely relate to it. We have yet to see Hikky's true nature. The rest of the episode was average. I hope they'll go with this deep atmosphere now. Without forgetting the comedy of course. I think this mix between jokes and dark thoughts really emphasizes Hikky's character. Also, why didn't Yui invite him to the study session...? |
ShikaSSMay 4, 2013 7:05 AM
| This show is turning out to be something different than what I expected it to be. Looks like things will get quite serious soon, something interesting could most certainly happen. |
I almost never read discussions after I made my post, if you want to reply PM me or post on my profile page. |
| End is good, I personally agree with him. Though I dislike seeing the tears of such a lovely girl. BTW, since most here don't know Japanese, I've wrote the original words of Hikigaya, for those who like collecting speeches or something... 俺は優しい女の子は嫌いだ。 ほんの一言挨拶を交わせば気になるし、メールが行き交えば心がざわつく 電話なんかかかってきた日には、着信履歴を見てつい頬が緩む だが知っている、それが優しさだと言うことを 「俺に優しい人間は他の人にも優しくて、そのことをつい忘れてしまいそうになる… 真実は残酷だと言うのなら、きっと嘘は優しいのだろう、だから優しさは嘘だ いつだって期待して、いつも勘違いして、いつからか希望を持つのはやめた 訓練されたぼっちは二度も同じ手に引っかかったりはしない、 百戦錬磨の強者(兵）、負けることに関しては俺が最強。 だから、いつまでも…優しい女の子は、嫌いだ」 Here's transliteration： |
UsuzumiiroMay 4, 2013 9:02 AM
| この妖怪め…何度背後に立とうが俺はこの川原から立ち退くつもりはない。逆に俺が貴様を追い払…なにその顔？ ああ…前回失礼な事して、俺に睨まれたモンだから気に病んでるのか？心配御無用。男子高校生は傷つけられるのは慣れっこッス  |
| Wow thats a screwed up way of thinking. And I'm a odd person myself, so thats saying a bit. At the halfway point now and all the progress he made, which was just barely any at all was swept away. And while she is a nice girl she goes out of her way for him a bit. Thats not because of her being nice. I find it funny how jaded and cynical the world is judging from these comments. And yet people can't figure 2+2=4. The world is as we collectively allow it to be. Still was a good ep, though I feel its locked into a bittersweet path for now with some romantic ending or a cliff hanger likely. Ah well, humor was nice, and seeing the girls dressed up was a major plus. Still I feel this show is lacking something. |
| Hikki's quote is so damn deep and feel a bit screwed up alright. |
| Interesting direction!!! New character Saki makes her debut and it explains why she took on a part-time job for certain reasons. As usual I loved how Yukino simply keeps on insulting Hikigaya despite being near him. We also get to to see that Hikigaya learns from his sister that the dog he saved belonged to Yuigahama. I wonder how this will turn out between them two and how the others will react!? Also liked the outfits they were wearing at the Maid Cafe and the Bar. I can kind of understand from Hikigaya's view why he would think that but it was really direct the way he talked to Yuigahama. Looking forward to the next episode!! 5/5 |
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| Dayum. Liking this series. Glad I picked it up. can't believe he rejected the nice girl who had no friend.... or has friends but they are fake friends. |
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| 4/5 One of the few souls that at least I do not like texture is disappointing, with falls of style and sudden changes of direction meaningless! Everything well narrated with the right timing and reasoning righteous: If I look at as it began with a graphic rather pitiful, and nothing particular , and see it now, you can propio say that you can not judge a book by its cover! However, the designs are not yet a girlfriend, too bad because having a graphic design worthy, the anime would have been one of the best! |
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| wow the final minutes of the episode was epic. can't wait to see what happens next episode |
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werlwend said: It's sad that i can relate to what he said at the end of the episode |
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AlexTheRiot said: werlwend said: It's sad that i can relate to what he said at the end of the episode More like guys for me. |
LaciieMay 4, 2013 1:02 PM
Dragon_Slayer_X said: I hate nice girls. Just exchanging greeting with them will get them on your mind. Start texting each other, and your heart will set a flutter. If they call you, you're done for. Enjoy staring at your logs and grinning like a fool. However, I won't get fooled again. That's what you call kindness. If you're nice to me, you're also nice to others. I always end up nearly forgetting that. Reality is cruel, so I'm sure lies are a form of kindness. Thus, I say kindness itself is also a lie. I always ended up with these espectations. And I always ended up with these misunderstandings. And before I knew it, I stopped hoping. A highly-trained loner is once bitten, twice shy. As a veteran on this battlefield of life, I've gotten used to losing. That's why I'll always hate nice girls. -Hikigaya Hachiman Does sound like a loser, which was the intention. Then again, cannot relate to such transcient romantic relationship thing. |
bla bla bla The endless debate between fans and haters. At one point, after spending a lot of time on MAL, you just realize it's totally pointless.Niko-kun said: On MAL, everyone who has used the lame rating system becomes a critic and an intellectual by default, haven't you heard? |
| Loved this episode! Am I the only who wants Hachiman to choose Yui? |
| Las firmas estan sobrevaloradas :P |
PWJP said: Yet another satisfying episode. Dem maid costumes! This show just keeps getting more interesting. By the way, does anyone know how many episodes this will have? The MAL info page doesn't say anything about that. You enjoyed the fan-service maid outfits? I was cringing so hard it hurt. It's a shame they went that way, I just hope they don't have a "Let's all go to the hot springs and/or swimming pool" episode. It's too typical and you don't feel anything once you've seen it once or twice because the whole concept is so overused it ceases to be anything more than a crude copy and paste of the same acts being done by different characters across different anime. I swear if I hear "*Squeal*, protagonist'sname no ecchi" I will actually stop watching the anime and give it a 1/10. It's the scene where writing goes to die, whether it's done ironically or not. |
| Hachikuji: Araragi-san, you don't look even the least bit apologetic. You should at least say something after touching a girl's delicate chest! Araragi: *Clueless look* Thanks? Bakemonogatari, Episode 5. |
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ShikaC00kiemon said: That monologue at the end was very sad, but also very true... I could completely relate to it. We have yet to see Hikky's true nature. The rest of the episode was average. I hope they'll go with this deep atmosphere now. Without forgetting the comedy of course. I think this mix between jokes and dark thoughts really emphasizes Hikky's character. I hope so to, the comedy is really well done in this anime. It is sad to see Yui like that in the end. |
werlwend said: It's sad that i can relate to what he said at the end of the episode but also, DAT ED |
| Don't forget. Always, somewhere, someone is fighting for you. As long as you remember her, you are not alone. |
| This show just got so much better during the last two minutes, expectations skyrocketing |
 If you really want to fit in, just put Legend of the Galactic Heroes in your top 5 and have it be the only 10-rated anime in your list. |
WildKaiser said: JacobGrey93 said: You enjoyed the fan-service maid outfits? I was cringing so hard it hurt. It's a shame they went that way, I just hope they don't have a "Let's all go to the hot springs and/or swimming pool" episode. It's too typical and you don't feel anything once you've seen it once or twice because the whole concept is so overused it ceases to be anything more than a crude copy and paste of the same acts being done by different characters across different anime. I swear if I hear "*Squeal*, protagonist'sname no ecchi" I will actually stop watching the anime and give it a 1/10. It's the scene where writing goes to die, whether it's done ironically or not. Disagree. Even if I've seen something done many times, I'll still love it if it's executed well. The " '*Squeal*, protagonist'sname no ecchi' " is funny as the series doesn't look to go that way. Even if it does, it's probably done in the usual insults that Hikky gets. But saying that you'll give a 1/10 because of that is frankly hilarious. You're just going to ignore the rest of the writing because of this sentence? Brilliant. On the topic of the episode, another great episode! That last scene hit me so hard I re-watched it like 4 times. Looking forward to next week~ I meant in a general sense, with this anime I'd continue watching anyway, there are some good moments in the writing and I always enjoy Hachiman's essays. I'd be disappointed if they do that scene because it's the stupidest scene in anime, it's on par with the "Oh no I'm falling... *Grope, grope* ... What could this be? It FEELS like a boob... perhaps a few more squeezes will help me recognise what it is." Scenes like that are for writers who just can't be bored to continue being original and interesting. I wouldn't mind if it were just the odd anime that did it but every romcom anime does. It doesn't happen in anime like DTB or Cowboy Bebop and that's one of the reasons they're excellent anime, because they don't rely on scenes which are proven to cash in. I'll keep watching it so long as I enjoy it, I'm not going to give it a 1/10, at worst I'll give it a 5/10 and stop watching it. I'm just sick of anime which rely on moe and don't try anything that's adventurous like creating something that's both different and cute. Oregairu is good because the protagonist isn't attractive, instead he's interesting, clever and likable despite the fact that he has no friends and that he's an oddball. It's also nice to not have a group of girls fawning over him just because he's nice and/or kind. |
| Hachikuji: Araragi-san, you don't look even the least bit apologetic. You should at least say something after touching a girl's delicate chest! Araragi: *Clueless look* Thanks? Bakemonogatari, Episode 5. |
| I don't understand all of this hate towards Hachiman, its like people were not even watching the episode and didn't see his ending monologue and doesn't know how he thinks. Why can't you put yourselves in the MC's position, all of his life people have been avoiding him, making fun of him, someone is finally nice to him. Then suddenly he finds out that she just happens to be the girl whos dog he saved. It comes together in his mind that the only reason shes treating him nicely is because he saved her dog. He's hurt by this, just like his monologue implied shes nice to everyone and hes no one special to her, the only reason she bothers is because of the dog, she doesn't really care about him. Of course we as the audience can see that this isn't really the case and Yui really does seem to have feelings for Hachiman, but for a person who has been alone all of his life it doesn't come together in his mind like that. It's actually really sad and I can say that I've been there and know exactly how he feels. I don't think anyone is at fault here, Yui is not perceptive enough to realize that she was hurting Hachiman and "leading him on" in his mind all this time. She has always been subtlety hinting that she likes Hachiman, with the cookies asking for his number and what not. Hachiman simply wanted her to stop putting on a act, just because he saved her dog and unintentionally hurting him (I'm pretty sure he doesn't blame her for giving him "false hope"). At the end of the day as the audience we can see that both characters actually like eachother, but because of the way they think they just don't realize it and that is the saddest thing about this anime so far :( |
 "The individual has always had to struggle to keep from being overwhelmed by the tribe. If you try it, you will be lonely often, and sometimes frightened. But no price is too high to pay for the privilege of owning yourself." -Friedrich Nietzsche |
battosai-01 said: Nicely put.I don't understand all of this hate towards Hachiman, its like people were not even watching the episode and didn't see his ending monologue and doesn't know how he thinks. Why can't you put yourselves in the MC's position, all of his life people have been avoiding him, making fun of him, someone is finally nice to him. Then suddenly he finds out that she just happens to be the girl whos dog he saved. It comes together in his mind that the only reason shes treating him nicely is because he saved her dog. He's hurt by this, just like his monologue implied shes nice to everyone and hes no one special to her, the only reason she bothers is because of the dog, she doesn't really care about him. Of course we as the audience can see that this isn't really the case and Yui really does seem to have feelings for Hachiman, but for a person who has been alone all of his life it doesn't come together in his mind like that. It's actually really sad and I can say that I've been there and know exactly how he feels. I don't think anyone is at fault here, Yui is not perceptive enough to realize that she was hurting Hachiman and "leading him on" in his mind all this time. She has always been subtlety hinting that she likes Hachiman, with the cookies asking for his number and what not. Hachiman simply wanted her to stop putting on a act, just because he saved her dog and unintentionally hurting him (I'm pretty sure he doesn't blame her for giving him "false hope"). At the end of the day as the audience we can see that both characters actually like eachother, but because of the way they think they just don't realize it and that is the saddest thing about this anime so far :( On another note, Yukino seems to have family problems. Wonder if it'll be brought up at all this season? |
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Raigrex said: Well saind, mate. Glad there's still some people who are open-minded about this. Not only that, some people actually had been in pretty much the same situations in life, that's why that ending means so much. |
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battosai-01 said: I don't understand all of this hate towards Hachiman, its like people were not even watching the episode and didn't see his ending monologue and doesn't know how he thinks. Why can't you put yourselves in the MC's position, all of his life people have been avoiding him, making fun of him, someone is finally nice to him. Then suddenly he finds out that she just happens to be the girl whos dog he saved. It comes together in his mind that the only reason shes treating him nicely is because he saved her dog. He's hurt by this, just like his monologue implied shes nice to everyone and hes no one special to her, the only reason she bothers is because of the dog, she doesn't really care about him. Of course we as the audience can see that this isn't really the case and Yui really does seem to have feelings for Hachiman, but for a person who has been alone all of his life it doesn't come together in his mind like that. It's actually really sad and I can say that I've been there and know exactly how he feels. I don't think anyone is at fault here, Yui is not perceptive enough to realize that she was hurting Hachiman and "leading him on" in his mind all this time. She has always been subtlety hinting that she likes Hachiman, with the cookies asking for his number and what not. Hachiman simply wanted her to stop putting on a act, just because he saved her dog and unintentionally hurting him (I'm pretty sure he doesn't blame her for giving him "false hope"). At the end of the day as the audience we can see that both characters actually like eachother, but because of the way they think they just don't realize it and that is the saddest thing about this anime so far :( Very well said. Hachiman isn't exactly used to dealing with people anyway, he isn't likely to pick up on normal social cues when they're directed towards him. He'd been in a similar situation before and you can hardly blame him for wanting to avoid being hurt again. |
| Hachikuji: Araragi-san, you don't look even the least bit apologetic. You should at least say something after touching a girl's delicate chest! Araragi: *Clueless look* Thanks? Bakemonogatari, Episode 5. |
| Oh god, that new version of the ending song with Yui's seiyuu...the chills man, the chills. One of the most beautiful EDs I've heard in a while. Overall, I seem to grow fonder of this anime with each episode. I hope future episodes can bring out as much, if not more, emotion than there was in the last few minutes of E05. I could grow to really like this show. |
| Nice speech there Hachiman but no one like a smart ass like you. |
battosai-01 said: I don't understand all of this hate towards Hachiman, its like people were not even watching the episode and didn't see his ending monologue and doesn't know how he thinks. Why can't you put yourselves in the MC's position, all of his life people have been avoiding him, making fun of him, someone is finally nice to him. Then suddenly he finds out that she just happens to be the girl whos dog he saved. It comes together in his mind that the only reason shes treating him nicely is because he saved her dog. He's hurt by this, just like his monologue implied shes nice to everyone and hes no one special to her, the only reason she bothers is because of the dog, she doesn't really care about him. Of course we as the audience can see that this isn't really the case and Yui really does seem to have feelings for Hachiman, but for a person who has been alone all of his life it doesn't come together in his mind like that. It's actually really sad and I can say that I've been there and know exactly how he feels. I don't think anyone is at fault here, Yui is not perceptive enough to realize that she was hurting Hachiman and "leading him on" in his mind all this time. She has always been subtlety hinting that she likes Hachiman, with the cookies asking for his number and what not. Hachiman simply wanted her to stop putting on a act, just because he saved her dog and unintentionally hurting him (I'm pretty sure he doesn't blame her for giving him "false hope"). At the end of the day as the audience we can see that both characters actually like eachother, but because of the way they think they just don't realize it and that is the saddest thing about this anime so far :( As everyone has already said, nice one! The people here have a short memory, what he said at the end and the way he behaved, he did all of this from personal experience. Just go back in the first episode, belonging to the fact that he is a loner he already showed us the two times that he was betrayed by "kind girls". One told him to just be friends but in the end she hasn't spoken to him anymore, and the other girl just laughed at him... |
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| "Reality is cruel, so I'm sure lies are a form of kindness. Thus, I say kindness itself is also a lie" I kinda like that quote |
SedakaMay 6, 2013 3:31 AM
| I'm lovin' it |
"Your taste is shit cause you like what I hate. Believe me I have 1000 cartoons that I rated with less than 5."  |
| It's getting better with every episode. This one was particularly good an touching. |
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battosai-01 said: ^^All I can say is thank you.I don't understand all of this hate towards Hachiman, its like people were not even watching the episode and didn't see his ending monologue and doesn't know how he thinks. Why can't you put yourselves in the MC's position, all of his life people have been avoiding him, making fun of him, someone is finally nice to him. Then suddenly he finds out that she just happens to be the girl whos dog he saved. It comes together in his mind that the only reason shes treating him nicely is because he saved her dog. He's hurt by this, just like his monologue implied shes nice to everyone and hes no one special to her, the only reason she bothers is because of the dog, she doesn't really care about him. Of course we as the audience can see that this isn't really the case and Yui really does seem to have feelings for Hachiman, but for a person who has been alone all of his life it doesn't come together in his mind like that. It's actually really sad and I can say that I've been there and know exactly how he feels. I don't think anyone is at fault here, Yui is not perceptive enough to realize that she was hurting Hachiman and "leading him on" in his mind all this time. She has always been subtlety hinting that she likes Hachiman, with the cookies asking for his number and what not. Hachiman simply wanted her to stop putting on a act, just because he saved her dog and unintentionally hurting him (I'm pretty sure he doesn't blame her for giving him "false hope"). At the end of the day as the audience we can see that both characters actually like eachother, but because of the way they think they just don't realize it and that is the saddest thing about this anime so far :( |
| Somehow, Hachiman's monologue made me pity him even more.His feeling of rejection is getting stronger every episode. I wonder what would Yui felt about him right now. I really wish that she will not give up her hope to bringing him back. I myself is a loner and being lonely is not something that you can "get used to" . If Hachiman is unwilling to make friend with other, then I hope some will make friend with him even by force.It was too pity to see him end up this way... ='( |
| Tardiness is justice... I agree with u Hikki. |
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