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Nov 12, 2012 5:16 PM

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symbv said:
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It's perfectly normal to find homosexual sex disgusting without hating or being afraid of gay people.
But just don't rant it in public to say how you are disgusted when a TV program shows homosexuality (like some seemed to be doing here)


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Also, the only reason I started talking was because people were wrongly accusing people of being bigots.
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MAL is the dark underbelly of the anime community. While other naive fanboys and fangirls run around in real life forming clubs and squealing in deafening high pitch noises about their favourite animus, we remain here, meticulously dismantling the credibility of each and every show, until all that remains is a steaming pile of tropes and ass pulls which we then devour to gratiyfy our glutinous and masochistic desires.
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Oh god please, don't tell me there's going to be yaoi...


...., please dont take this as me being offensive..., but have you not read any of the forum threads from episode 1???

But if you are lazy like me, here


I read some but i don't read them all but thanks for the info and i didnt take it offensively, dont worry ;)


You sir, are very welcome :)

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Nov 13, 2012 2:45 AM

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Naxrrhid said:
trusttt said:
Naxrrhid said:
trusttt said:
Oh god please, don't tell me there's going to be yaoi...


...., please dont take this as me being offensive..., but have you not read any of the forum threads from episode 1???

But if you are lazy like me, here


I read some but i don't read them all but thanks for the info and i didnt take it offensively, dont worry ;)


You sir, are very welcome :)

If someone hating yaoi offends you, do not open!


I hate yaoi as much as the next person, but lets get something straight coming here and calling an anime shit; even though you dropped it is retarded, but hey this is MAL. Also saying that it won't be as good as SAO is funny because SAO current arc has been utter shitty mostly, and they rushed so much of it. Also I'm an avid fan of SAO because I read the Light Novels.

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Tyrel said:
Just get out of here bud.
I chose not to reply (and I guess many thought the same) because he is confirmed troll. I would say just ignore him. He is not worth our attention here.
So MAL finally starts locking news threads that are only a few weeks old?

I wonder where was the announcement of this change? Or we are seeing yet another case of changes made that impacted users but not communicated to them?

I wonder how long people would put up with this.

As much as I have a bunch of information to share about anime announced recently I cannot share it in news board, and the anime series is too disorganized and chaotic to share information except with people already interested in the particular series.
Nov 13, 2012 9:23 AM

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There might as well have been a second thread made to discuss that scene in the next episode preview.
Nov 13, 2012 1:50 PM

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I really don't see why people are making such a big deal out of a nothing. It's sad when you can't even come here to discuss ep.7 because so many people are complaining/agruing over a preview that last probably 15 seconds.

Personally I don't see why people are dropping this anime just because of one sexual act between two boys (that doesn't count as yaoi or BL) that won't even be shown in full detail. I can't change their opinion and I'm not going to.

I just wish this discussion forum was actually about episode 7.
Nov 13, 2012 2:01 PM
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kaykenner54 said:
I really don't see why people are making such a big deal out of a nothing. It's sad when you can't even come here to discuss ep.7 because so many people are complaining/agruing over a preview that last probably 15 seconds.

Personally I don't see why people are dropping this anime just because of one sexual act between two boys (that doesn't count as yaoi or BL) that won't even be shown in full detail. I can't change their opinion and I'm not going to.

I just wish this discussion forum was actually about episode 7.


Well the show shouldn't false advertise itself by saying it's a Yori.
Actually from the looks of things this show will genuinly end up having Yuri in it as well as Yaoi so honestly I don't see the complaint, the fact that there is more female characters means that the Yuri is fairly likely to be more than the Yaoi. Plus if you go back two episodes ago it is said that the animal they aim to live like apparantly solves all anger issues and such through sexual contact with the other members of its species and as such this makes sense.
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edl01 said:
kaykenner54 said:
I really don't see why people are making such a big deal out of a nothing. It's sad when you can't even come here to discuss ep.7 because so many people are complaining/agruing over a preview that last probably 15 seconds.

Personally I don't see why people are dropping this anime just because of one sexual act between two boys (that doesn't count as yaoi or BL) that won't even be shown in full detail. I can't change their opinion and I'm not going to.

I just wish this discussion forum was actually about episode 7.


Well the show shouldn't false advertise itself by saying it's a Yori.
Actually from the looks of things this show will genuinly end up having Yuri in it as well as Yaoi so honestly I don't see the complaint, the fact that there is more female characters means that the Yuri is fairly likely to be more than the Yaoi. Plus if you go back two episodes ago it is said that the animal they aim to live like apparantly solves all anger issues and such through sexual contact with the other members of its species and as such this makes sense.


Yori means from.

Also even in episode 1 discussion people found out that this anime will have homesexual relationships between both girls and guys so I was surprised to see people are at episode 7 and still freaking out.
Nov 13, 2012 3:16 PM
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kaykenner54 said:
edl01 said:
kaykenner54 said:
I really don't see why people are making such a big deal out of a nothing. It's sad when you can't even come here to discuss ep.7 because so many people are complaining/agruing over a preview that last probably 15 seconds.

Personally I don't see why people are dropping this anime just because of one sexual act between two boys (that doesn't count as yaoi or BL) that won't even be shown in full detail. I can't change their opinion and I'm not going to.

I just wish this discussion forum was actually about episode 7.


Well the show shouldn't false advertise itself by saying it's a Yori.
Actually from the looks of things this show will genuinly end up having Yuri in it as well as Yaoi so honestly I don't see the complaint, the fact that there is more female characters means that the Yuri is fairly likely to be more than the Yaoi. Plus if you go back two episodes ago it is said that the animal they aim to live like apparantly solves all anger issues and such through sexual contact with the other members of its species and as such this makes sense.


Yori means from.

Also even in episode 1 discussion people found out that this anime will have homesexual relationships between both girls and guys so I was surprised to see people are at episode 7 and still freaking out.


I know what it means I was making a pun :P
Nov 13, 2012 4:11 PM

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damn...i was gonna comment on the episode and was looking forward to some good discussion of the plot/characters/etc but it all went to shit after the 2nd page of comments.

all these double standards and blatant homophobia are disgusting. even more so to see otherwise well spoken people trying real hard to justify their own bigotry.
Nov 13, 2012 4:33 PM
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yuxi said:
damn...i was gonna comment on the episode and was looking forward to some good discussion of the plot/characters/etc but it all went to shit after the 2nd page of comments.

all these double standards and blatant homophobia are disgusting. even more so to see otherwise well spoken people trying real hard to justify their own bigotry.


They can complain all they want, it's not like the Japanese are gonna listen to them :-)

Japanese has a THING with homosexuality. It's not just for fanservice. They like to explore it.
Nov 13, 2012 4:39 PM

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Eleven pages of comments and 90% (or at least, that's what it feels like) of them are about yaoi. Seriously? This anime is good and has an intriguing story, and people are considering dropping it just because of that? I mean, there is even reasoning behind the sex and it contributes to the plot. I might would understand if it was there for fanservice, but from everything I've heard, that's not the case.

Anyway, another great episode! I'd say that was a pretty satisfying conclusion to this arc. I had a feeling that Squealer would betray them, but I felt kind of bad for him in the end. I'm just glad everyone is safe (for now, at least). I'd like to know what Saki meant (I'm assuming that was Saki) by her last statement in the episode. The adults are sure to know that something is amiss with the children being gone for three days, but in the preview, things didn't seem that different other than them being older. I guess the adults ordered for the children to be killed? I wouldn't know why else the general would want it to be kept secret that he helped them. I wonder if he had an actual reason for helping them out or if he was just feeling compassionate. Either way, he's pretty cool and I hope to see more of him.

Looks like there will be a time skip next episode. Shun is looking mighty fine. Seriously, his teenage self has really cool hair. ............Sorry.

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Nov 13, 2012 9:00 PM

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This episode moved WAY too fast. Need to slow down and BREATHE, man! Fill in some narrative holes!

armeg said:
symbv said:
steaminferno said:
It's perfectly normal to find homosexual sex disgusting without hating or being afraid of gay people.
But just don't rant it in public to say how you are disgusted when a TV program shows homosexuality (like some seemed to be doing here)

"Your opinions don't correlate with mine, thus you should stop talking."
Pretty accurate.
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Nov 13, 2012 10:38 PM
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I guess the adults ordered for the children to be killed? I wouldn't know why else the general would want it to be kept secret that he helped them. I wonder if he had an actual reason for helping them out or if he was just feeling compassionate. Either way, he's pretty cool and I hope to see more of him.


Well, i think that had the adults given the order, the children would have been dead already. I think that both children and queerats are being stuffed with proscriptions just to make sure they minimize their contact under the threat of severe judgment. Still, it doesn't seem like any real punishment comes. And when some accident happens, the god-like status of children can help them to survive (just like it happened in the anime), so it fits perfectly the whole system. Thus i think that should the adults learn this whole situation from the unofifcial sources (i don't think they've learned it already, they can have some guesses, but nothing more) they won't do anything to queerats.
Nov 14, 2012 2:19 AM

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Satoru did saved them from the bomb.

From the war story, seems like the only real threat for the rats is by killing their queen and larvae. the rest are acceptable loss when situation asks for it as long as the colony survives. Painful, but not something they can't get through with.
Nov 15, 2012 6:09 AM

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I'm FINALLY starting to understand the plot. Great episode.
Nov 15, 2012 3:20 PM

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I thought they were never going to get back lol . I was getting tired to watch the same shit over and over again
Nov 16, 2012 7:58 AM

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im so into episode 8...
Nov 17, 2012 8:59 PM

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So Kiroumaru got the orders to kill them, but my question is how the ethics committee got news of their transgression, since we're never shown them being contacted by Rijin in any way.

Maybe I'm being stupid and I just missed something, but it bothers me.
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Nov 20, 2012 6:02 PM

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What's with that homolust preview...
Nov 21, 2012 12:32 PM

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Saki managed the avoid the queerats from catching on to the fact that she didn't have powers at the time she was with them.
Was also nice that they found there friends tho it was a big coincidence that they found them.
The adults didn't seem to happy about them coming so late so they might be in trouble hopefully they wont find out about what they know.
Mar 20, 2013 11:22 PM

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Excited for the time skip!^^ This episode was nice too~
Mar 22, 2013 8:29 PM

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Ohmigod, that was such a long arc...Finally a reunion. Honestly, two episodes was the most I could handle of the Mole Arc. XD It was still good nevertheless!

Previews. I am prepared for the bisexuality scenes to start happening. Might skip a few 'cause I'm not exactly comfortable with them. But as long as it's not a main plot, I'm cool with it.

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I thought they were never going to get back lol . I was getting tired to watch the same shit over and over again

+1
Mar 27, 2013 5:00 AM
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Hah, I thought they were screwed again when the handsome rat appeared in his ship.

So, time skip next? Yaoi next? YAY, haters gonna hate.
Mar 28, 2013 4:49 PM

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Ooh, a timeskip next ep.
Apr 2, 2013 9:54 AM

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Interesting Episode and finally this arc is over. I'm really intrigued by Kiroumaru, he seems really intelligent and interesting, though I'm curious why he looks so extremely different from the other Queerrats.
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Apr 2, 2013 9:54 AM

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Someone asked earlier why fans weren't combing the forums if they were fans of the show for meaningful discussion, speculation and clearing up muddled information in this mysterious anime. Now that I'm here, I'm going back to lurking. So many of you are just unpleasant.

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the hostility towards yaoi is disturbing.


Pretty much this.


Yep. I also love how most of these same people love the shit out of yuri. Hypocrites. Luckily I'm an open-minded adult, sadly so rare on this site.

Anyway, loving the series. Excited to see what's changed after the time skip.
Apr 3, 2013 10:16 AM

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They managed to regroup and another one has his powers back! So far so good! They've returned home to restore the others that have forgotten their mantra! Lets see what happens next!
Apr 11, 2013 6:41 AM

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Wow, that was intense. It's quite rare for an anime to keep me on the edge of my seat for an entire episode.
Apr 14, 2013 8:26 AM

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Hmm, I watched the first 7 episodes last night. I dislike the whole dumb queerat thing, and glad to apparently leave it for now. Though it looks like it will get more interesting now they've returned.

Honestly, I'm not sure the soundtrack is very good. Keeps re-using the same choir and guitar strings over and over. The best part is the art style more or less...
Apr 15, 2013 6:42 AM

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Yaoi scene incoming!

As for the episode, I really enjoyed it! That wolf dude was really cool too, its nice that he didn't have any bad intentions after all. Looking forward to the time skip! :D
Apr 15, 2013 9:59 AM
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i'm asking if the comitte knows who committed the crime or if they just know that there were 5 children
Technically, since monk died no one should know they have met that library... Or even if someone knows, its not because rats told them, because rats can't know this for sure.
Edit: The only way for Committee to find out was to see that their power sealed. But at the end of the ep they say they succeeded in tricking adults and unsealing their powers (they had names of their mantra's written in some places). So... if adults really know about whats going on - they figured that out in some other way. This is maybe where kids "was mistaken", or not. Kiroumaru maybe reported that he found some kids, but not more than that. He said if adults will find out that he helped them - he'll receive death sentence. But If adults already know what kids did and ordered to kill them, by letting them go it should already be death sentence for Kiroumaru, isn't it?
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all the class was on a trip that day, the teacher said so at the end of ep 3

But I had impression that for main characters it took more time to return to the village compared to the rest of the class, no?
they went too far, this is a crime itself. one of them used his power in war without permission too.
from ep3 to ep7 3 nights have passed
There are good and valid points from pinotto90 and Endymion. Since I read the novel, I think I would clarify a few things here:

- The word "crime" sounds too serious. I would call it "infringement of the ethics code" which is the word used in the novel. Of course punishment can be very serious (disappearance) but it can be very light too. There is nothing like a civil code vs a criminal code legal system in this world so calling it "crime" sounds a bit off (at least to me).
That said, the "infringement" by the kids can be found on several levels: At its lightest, they are not doing their schoolwork (summer camp); more seriously they ventured into zone where kids like them should not have tread; even more seriously using power on squeerats without permission; or most seriously encounter the Library and proceed to learn things from it.

- It is true that 3 nights passed in Satoru and Saki's adventure. IIRC we also need to add 1 night for their first night of camping, making it 4 nights. But the summer camp actually should last for 7 days. So the children are coming back too early. Even if the adults did not hear anything from Kiromaru or anybody else, they would know something is amiss there.

- It is true that since the Rijin monk is dead before he told anyone about the kids no one should know about the kids' encounter with the Library. The only clue that something unusual had happened is if the adults found out something's wrong with the kids, like they do not have power any more.

- As for the last sentence by Saki's narration: You will find out what it means in the next episode.


I agree one hundred percent.

I'm curious why no one raise the topic of coward Squealer. From the very beginning he betrayed his gods.After all, he always chose the "safe ways" which proved to be planned traps. He was caught in the act to betray their position to enemy.
In my view, he has been entrusted by the people of the city with the task of getting rid of the children.
Apr 15, 2013 9:53 PM

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What was the "fake library"
Was all the information they found out false in episode 4?
Apr 20, 2013 5:28 PM

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Nice episode. I'm happy neither the leader guy nor Squealer was bad after all.
May 2, 2013 4:09 AM

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I'm really not sure what to think about this anime and this episode anymore... The subject seems to be mature, but the way it's made is somehow naive. Well, maybe I'm not used to anime anymore! But the last few minutes of the episode made me want MORE.
May 16, 2013 7:57 AM

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Really enjoyed this episode. Heh
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Jun 6, 2013 7:31 AM

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Beautiful.
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Jun 29, 2013 3:19 PM

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Nice. They've restored their Cantus ability :)
Jul 24, 2013 3:53 PM

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It's great how they're keeping everything in doubt. Like you never knew if they could trust Squerea or the leader of that colony until the end. Kinda ominous ending so things should get crazy again soon.
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So am I the only one in the entire world who doesn't like watching episode previews? Personally, they're a bit too spoiler-y.

However, in every episode discussion I look at I see everyone and their dog discussing what went on in the preview of the next episode, rather than the current episode. Everyone's up in arms about an apparent yaoi scene, and apparently there's going to be a huge timeskip. I wish I didn't know all that.

Maybe I just need to start staying away from episode discussions.
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Sep 20, 2013 1:43 AM

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new character show up :3
hmm.. he looks so manly :3
btw.. I wonder what is the meaning of the ending
Oct 13, 2013 10:08 AM
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They change the animation in the next episode, again.
Oct 23, 2013 10:02 AM

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Nice to see the group get back together, and I was really glad that Squealer and Kinoumaru could be trusted. The ending line of "we had no idea how terribly mistaken we were" really makes me want to know WHY but the timeskip next episode suggests we might not find out yet.
Dec 3, 2013 3:47 AM
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Good episode overall, getting a bit more into it.

Was a little confused how the group met up again, were they planning to meet there?

Excited for time skip.
Jan 15, 2014 3:47 PM

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Honestly, I really didn't like that arc. :/ oh well, hope it gets back on track.
Feb 15, 2014 11:32 AM

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after reading some of these comments, i'm really hoping this arc is over. it really didn't help the main plot...if there's even still a main plot that is.

2/10
Apr 28, 2014 7:42 AM

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Damn, dat Kiroumaru being all noble and everything. He was so cool.

Satoru too was badass, containing that explosion, it take some good reflex. Kiroumaru probably felt beholden. He would be dead if it wasn't of him. Also, for attacking their rearguard, to show them that they had a big advantage. That was clever from Saki.

All that reality, it's shocking... Saki realized that all these babies and adult Kiroumaru captured would live all their life as slave... They have no future.

I don't think it's the last time we'll hear about Squealer. He seemed really clever and deceitful. I don't trust him at all.

Now, how will that adventure fuck up their life? They know way too much. All the kids of their age aren't even aware that human could kill each other, they live in their little bubble. Also, they may have gained back their Juryoku, there is still the displine comittee problem. They probably won't leave them go that easily...
I don't know if it's because I'm reading too much between the lines, but I feel like people with psychotelekinesis tend to be more violent. Or all least like the taste of blood... Like Satoru, he seemed to really enjoy killing the Queerats. Remember when he was playing with those corpse in the episode 6 saying he would have some fun with them and second later, we see them all dead. From Saki old self narrator, Maria will do something terrible in the future, I wouldn't be surprised if she turn out crazy.

Kinda sad that after all that Satoru did for Saki she still only have eyes for Shun :/
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I dont get it :S

How did the Handsome queerat guy of the largest queerat colony get orders from the ethics committee to kill the gang?

How did the ethics committee find out that the gang learned the truth from the false minoshiro? The monk guy who is the only one who knows is dead and their cantus is now unsealed....

so how do the ethics committee know?

soo confused :S
Jun 14, 2014 5:53 PM

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Satoru matured so much prior to the queeret invasion. I'm glad this arc was over. It wasn't a bad arc, just an uninteresting one.
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So we are done with queerat society. I'm sure some explanations are still waiting to be popped out at us.
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