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Nov 5, 2008 8:56 AM
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Hahah, Ami in rampage mode - she could have done an appearance in Higurashi with that :D

Her background was quite obvious, and I wonder whether she will stop her hypocrisy from now on.
Nov 5, 2008 10:45 AM
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HoaRy said:
Hahah, Ami in rampage mode - she could have done an appearance in Higurashi with that :D

Her background was quite obvious, and I wonder whether she will stop her hypocrisy from now on.
I hope my CAPS are not bad with this post. ^_^


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Man..........I wonder what is Ami up to with Ryuuji? Does she love him? OR She will use him?

WTF is she trying by being like this with Ryuuji. I DO NOT BELIEVE that she really is in love with Ryuuji. I know he helped her but do not trust her.


That has been my question even before she appeared in Toradora!.

Well, I guess the only way to research that was to look into its original content - the novels. Because based on what I could gather from the novels, chances are that Ami later will get to like Ryuuji is very, very likely. Most likely because



<joke mode=ON> Or, it's simply because Ryuuji's inner self is a man too awesome for even Ami to resist. XDDD Gyahahahahaha! </joke>


COOL INFO! Thanks from the looks Amy might score enough points with me......hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm, let's DO see how her character will develop. Seems now you make me think Ryuuji will have most impact on her character. From the looks of that scene in the ruin when it is just him and her picking garbage. He sees the double personality BUT what you said seems to have been understood by Ami at this stage. IS THAT RIGHT?
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angel999 said:
Kushieda/Taiga ATTACK on Ami! Good military (notice the military salute) job!

Oh I forgot this part, in the preview to this episode I expected them to be grabbing her breasts for some humiliationary reason^^.

Nov 5, 2008 12:23 PM
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Haha, Ami goes kinda crazy for a bit there..stalker deserved it though.

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WTF is she trying by being like this with Ryuuji. I DO NOT BELIEVE that she really is in love with Ryuuji. I know he helped her but do not trust her.

Yeah, I don't really trust Ami either. Not yet at least.
Nov 5, 2008 12:42 PM
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Pete_CG said:
Haha, Ami goes kinda crazy for a bit there..stalker deserved it though.

angel999 said:
WTF is she trying by being like this with Ryuuji. I DO NOT BELIEVE that she really is in love with Ryuuji. I know he helped her but do not trust her.

Yeah, I don't really trust Ami either. Not yet at least.


maybe she just want people to like her despite knowing her true self?

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I'm really enjoying this, great episode 5/5
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angel999 said:
Man..........I wonder what is Ami up to with Ryuuji? Does she love him? OR She will use him?

WTF is she trying by being like this with Ryuuji. I DO NOT BELIEVE that she really is in love with Ryuuji. I know he helped her but do not trust her.


That has been my question even before she appeared in Toradora!.

Well, I guess the only way to research that was to look into its original content - the novels. Because based on what I could gather from the novels, chances are that Ami later will get to like Ryuuji is very, very likely. Most likely because



<joke mode=ON> Or, it's simply because Ryuuji's inner self is a man too awesome for even Ami to resist. XDDD Gyahahahahaha! </joke>
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Nov 5, 2008 8:54 PM
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I WANT TO WATCH THIS EPISODE SUBBED! :o!

Nov 5, 2008 9:36 PM
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:D

lol :P
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AkariChan said:

:D

lol :P


LOL LOL LOL LOL OMG I cannot stop laughing while watching these GIFs!


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Cant wait to see taigas reaction to that, she was quite shocked.
Next seem to be a sukumizu episode, wants to see taiga in swimsuit.^^


Me too! Want to Aisaka and Kushieda in Sukumizu!

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Make way for the slim body calorie warriors lol
Nov 6, 2008 8:53 AM

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Cant wait to see taigas reaction to that, she was quite shocked.
Next seem to be a sukumizu episode, wants to see taiga in swimsuit.^^


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Kiseki said:
Cant wait to see taigas reaction to that, she was quite shocked.
Next seem to be a sukumizu episode, wants to see taiga in swimsuit.^^

DFC FTW \o/
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rewatched and i just noticed, taiga was drinking Pakuri at the biginning xD
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HoaRy said:
Hahah, Ami in rampage mode - she could have done an appearance in Higurashi with that :D


I was thinking the same exact thing ._.

Not too bad of an episode, but I really want to see the next one. The attack in the very beginning caught me completely off guard and I spilled by drink :(
Nov 6, 2008 8:30 PM

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Factor said:
HoaRy said:
Hahah, Ami in rampage mode - she could have done an appearance in Higurashi with that :D


I was thinking the same exact thing ._.

Not too bad of an episode, but I really want to see the next one. The attack in the very beginning caught me completely off guard and I spilled by drink :(


You remind me when I almost spit out in #5 when Ami first came and both Taiga and Ryuuji spit their drinks out.
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LOL TAIGA + MINORIN COMBO HELL YEAH!!!!!11!111!!!!

It turns out she's a pitiful one, having her life messed up due to being weak. It was complicated and kinda went on by itself, but I guess Ryuuji now understood what's going on and what's up with the fake personality "mask".

Real nice episode with drama, more on Ami's character. I love the Minorin's part here as I do Taiga. Alone they're awesome, together they're unstoppable!

GIF time~

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Seemed kind of weak in comparison to the previous episodes. The diet-warrior attack was weird, but not particularly funny.

Also didn't understand why Ami would want to visit Taiga's house, let alone do charades for 6 hours for her. Yeah, there was the stalker, but it looked like Taiga already chased him away by throwing a trash can at him. And regardless, she could have gone to Ryuuji's house even if it was "less secure". And how, exactly, did Taiga manage to take pictures of the whole thing without Ami realizing it? Especially when we already know how inept Taiga is with a camera.

And then there was the part where Ami and Ryuuji were hiding from the stalker in the rain. Ami says something like, "If I say it bluntly... that guy is a stalker." And Ryuuji acts all surprised. It was like... wait, you didn't figure that out, Ryuuji? Some guy following around a model with a camera, hiding behind telephone poles and underneath bridges... what exactly would that person be, other than a stalker? :-\

I dunno, the execution of this whole episode felt kind of off. Rather than laughing, I was just confused for the most part.
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Comments made while watching:

-Convenience Store Fist of Truth FTW!

-Its better just to not think about what just happened and go on with your life Ami.

-"Female bonding its so scary." No shit *shivers and hides under the covers looking paranoid*

-She has a paparazzi?

-Yeah seriously, she broke into his house once and tried to murder him with a boken, Taiga's place is much more secure apparently.

-Wow, just six hours and Taiga made Ami completely insane?!?

-Michael Jackson and Mona Lisa what?

-Yeah and what are the odds those four would be in the same group?

-Her shell is cracking ^_^

-"The truth is that guy is...a stalker." Wasnt that made blatantly obvious earlier?

-"I found a cute mini-sized ghost." He might as well have signed his own death warrant...wait for it...Death comes for you Stalker!

-Go Ami! Kick his ass!!!

-Dang, in some ways Ami is scarier than Taiga!

-Who else knew that Taiga would walk in on that...and the parrot dies again.

Post Episode Comments:

Nice episode, interesting to see Ami's personality change, hopefully her character still stays active in the group and isnt relegated to a supporting role like similar characters in other Animes. I also hope that the next episode isnt all about Taiga being pissed off over what happened at the end of this episode but still it looks like this series is still kicking.


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I'm going with you on those, naikou. Some things didn't occur to make sense, especially with Ami's personality and the stalker dude. Was all those build up just a bridge to Ami new personality? Toradora has its own style of fanservice and I'd consider Ami punishing the stalker was done for the fans' delight.

A question arises. Knowing they moved so fast in the first two episodes, I wonder if Ami's arc could've been longer in comparison to the novel.
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Was all those build up just a bridge to Ami new personality?

That's what it seemed like. The part with the frog on Ami's foot... Every other line she was switching between Ami-chan and dark-mode. Would someone as experienced as Ami is at hiding her real self make that kind of mistake repeatedly? It was very awkward.

But that's a good point about Ami's arc possibly being longer in the novel. This episode could have been pretty funny if they had taken things a little bit more slowly and explained some of the weird discrepancies. Maybe they were rushing to get the arc finished quickly, so they sped up the pace of the novel again.
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ChiBuki said:
I'm going with you on those, naikou. Some things didn't occur to make sense, especially with Ami's personality and the stalker dude. Was all those build up just a bridge to Ami new personality? Toradora has its own style of fanservice and I'd consider Ami punishing the stalker was done for the fans' delight.

A question arises. Knowing they moved so fast in the first two episodes, I wonder if Ami's arc could've been longer in comparison to the novel.


YO Chibuki! I was not confused at all. There is development and yeah Ryuuji might be like huh? Him a stalker but I think he got the idea the guy is not wanted by Ami. THANKS FOR THE GIFS dude! I am using one of them AND I LOVE IT!

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ChiBuki said:
Was all those build up just a bridge to Ami new personality?

That's what it seemed like. The part with the frog on Ami's foot... Every other line she was switching between Ami-chan and dark-mode. Would someone as experienced as Ami is at hiding her real self make that kind of mistake repeatedly? It was very awkward.

But that's a good point about Ami's arc possibly being longer in the novel. This episode could have been pretty funny if they had taken things a little bit more slowly and explained some of the weird discrepancies. Maybe they were rushing to get the arc finished quickly, so they sped up the pace of the novel again.


Do you know what they skipped by chance?????
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Ami's yandere-ish snap was awesome. Makes her my favorite character by far.
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I love this anime
Nov 7, 2008 12:28 AM

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Only just realized the student pres and ami where two different people ..... me lose brain ? uh oh !

Always thought it was strange they acted like they never seen ami before when she was first introduced >< i'm special =(
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Another nice epsidoe. Poor guy, wonder what will happen to him with Taiga walking in on them.
Compared to the novel, the anime already have like 2 filler epsidoes and is cutting out alot of character bonding/growing so there are some moments in the anime where things just didn't connect together.
However, I still got to say, so far it's one of my favorite for the new season.
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i like TakasuXAmi better ... Taiga is too tsundere. And the parrot is not dying it's loosing feathers.


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Nov 7, 2008 1:55 AM

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At first, I thought that this guy with camera was her rejected lover or sth like that - by this impression lasted only 5 seconds :) So Ryuuji could be easily mistaken as well.

Last scene with Ami being sluty and Taiga shock > all. In my opinion in that moment Taiga flet something strange for her to feel - jealousy over Ryuuji. If Ami follows her path to made Ryuuji her boyfriend, Taiga will probably do the same and forget about Kitamura.
Nov 7, 2008 2:09 AM
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Ami's transformation was cool, especially when she admitted she was scared after. Love the Taiga and Minorin Diet warrior team.
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ha awesome end... Taiga looked sad and shocked at Ami and Ryuuji
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This episode was pretty much ok but I'm looking forward the next one.
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After this episode I'm hoping for a RyuujiXAmi pairing. :)
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Silaqui said:
After this episode I'm hoping for a RyuujiXAmi pairing. :)


Oh God no! Aisaka x Ryuuji besides Aisaka can kick Ami anytime! Ami is only good in rage mode. :)
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-i REAAAAAAAAAAAAALLLY liked ami in psycho mode :D
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Tsundere + Yandere = OWNAGE!!!

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After this episode I'm hoping for a RyuujiXAmi pairing. :)

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+2 :)
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Some side notes after subs:

So that attack was about a weight issue...........I hope Ami does not have anorexia.

It's her fault for being weak. The moving and having to do all that crap was a lame excuse. Not giving to your parents is also a lame excuse..........should have solved it herself. My suggestion..........BUY pepper spray..........BUY TAZER.............GO TO martial arts class................USE HOME MADE TOOLS to defend.

Yeah I was right------------->Split personality with a Bi-Polar disorder perhaps caused by all that stress and stalker................YOU FAULT AMI. No one else. Also guess Kitamura FAILED her. No kidding he was begging Aisaka...........HE FAILED thus was helpless!

Some reference Aisaka used on Ami to make her psych out! 150 rapid fire suggestion overload her mentality for sure.
-Uganda------------->is a landlocked country in East Africa. It is bordered on the east by Kenya, on the north by Sudan, on the west by the Democratic Republic of the Congo, on the southwest by Rwanda, and on the south by Tanzania. The southern part of the country includes a substantial portion of Lake Victoria, within which it shares borders with Kenya and Tanzania. Uganda takes its name from the Buganda kingdom, which encompassed a portion of the south of the country including the capital Kampala.-------------------------> A joke about a contry in their misery???

-Falco-----------------too many reference and is not too clear of which person she is referring too but check it out and guess-------------->http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Falco#People


-Akechi Mitsuhide----------->Akechi Mitsuhide - (明智 光秀, Akechi Mitsuhide -? 1528? – July 2, 1582 Japanese calendar 6th month 13th day), nicknamed Jūbei or Koretō Hyūga no Kami (惟任日向守, Koretō Hyūga no Kami?), was a samurai who lived during the Sengoku period of Feudal Japan.

Mitsuhide was a samurai and a general under daimyo Oda Nobunaga, although he later betrayed Nobunaga and caused him to commit seppuku.

-Matsumoto Seichou--------------> Book author that wrote one book about AN AFFAIR and another about A MURDER.

-Oda Nobunaga---------------->Oda Nobunaga (織田 信長, Oda Nobunaga?) Oda Nobunaga (help·info) (June 23, 1534–June 21, 1582) was a major daimyo during the Sengoku period of Japanese history. He was the second son of Oda Nobuhide, a deputy shugo (military governor) with land holdings in Owari province.[1][2] Nobunaga lived a life of continuous military conquest, eventually conquering a third of Japanese daimyo before his death in 1582

-Dazai Osamu---------------------->Osamu Dazai (太宰 治, Dazai Osamu?); (June 19, 1909 – June 13, 1948) was a Japanese author who is considered one of the foremost fiction writers of 20th-century Japan. He is noted for his ironic and gloomy wit, his obsession with suicide, and his brilliant fantasy.

-Amaterasu------------------> Amaterasu (天照, Amaterasu?), Amaterasu-ōmikami (天照大神 / 天照大御神, Amaterasu-ōmikami?) or Ōhiru-menomuchi-no-kami (大日孁貴神, Ōhiru-menomuchi-no-kami?) is in Japanese mythology a sun goddess and perhaps the most important Shinto deity (神, kami?). Her name, Amaterasu, means literally "(that which) illuminates Heaven". She was born from the left eye of Izanagi as he purified himself in a river and went on to become the ruler of the Higher Celestial Plain (Takamagahara).

She is also said to be directly linked in lineage to the Imperial Household of Japan and the Emperor, who are considered descendants of the kami themselves.

So in when you understand all these references you should all know that Aisaka attacked Ami psychologically with ARMY/SCI-FI/DARK THEMES such as suicide/murder/betrayal.

-Ami might have episodes of black outs.
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Silaqui said:
After this episode I'm hoping for a RyuujiXAmi pairing. :)


I'm starting to lean that way also, especially if she is gratefully for letting Ryuuji for telling her to show her true self.

Anyway I thought the episode was ok, it definitely looked like an episode to introduce the new personality of Ami. At least they made her even more likable for me. :D

Is this show really going to go for 25 episodes? If it is, shouldn't the paced be a little bit better?
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Oh yes, she got my sympathy too. Strange ;)
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I think the Inko's death will make Takasu realize who he truly loves, and that is Inko.
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I was originally rooting for RyujixMinorin, but now I realize that's probably because I didn't want RyujixTaiga. Ryuji & Minorin's personalities don't really mix, so now I'm going for Ami.
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Flibbertigibbet said:
Stjeppe said:
And the parrot is not dying it's loosing feathers.

I think the Inko's death will make Takasu realize who he truly loves, and that is Inko.

Death-flagged,that is...
Go Go Ryuuji x Inko~
Nov 7, 2008 9:03 AM

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lol Ami beating up the stalker was just awesome
cant wait for next weeks episode, previews looked good
this episode made me like the anime even more, i thought it was a little lacking before, but now its getting interesting


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Flibbertigibbet said:
I think the Inko's death will make Takasu realize who he truly loves, and that is Inko.

And to think I was coming here to post that. I was sadly beat to it :(

I'm kinda glad to see the Ami plot developing, even if it is coming a little too quickly for my tastes. I still don't 100% trust her either. I'd much prefer to see Ryuuji with Minori too. Actually, I just want more Minori, can we rename this show Minori and make it 20 minutes of her antics? The Convenience Store Fist of Truth was rather epic, though I was hoping for a gattai :(

Also, the reason Ami stuck around at Taiga's place was she was afraid everyone else would discover her true nature, Taiga held this over her head, and then made her go through the impressions; another thing Taiga could hold over her head.

Like others, I was pretty saddened by Ryuuji's "LOLSTALKERRLY?", but what can you do? He's been spending too much time with Minori.

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Nov 7, 2008 12:03 PM

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lol it was only obvious that she would walk in.....thats how it always happens anyways. i guess its interesting in its own way.
Nov 7, 2008 12:28 PM

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I dunno - seeing people not like Ami and hating her clingyness to Ryuuji is strange :3

The ending for me was so cute ><............. Maybe Ultra Cute ><..

Really liking how it is turning out XD

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The Minori/Taiga fight combo was well done. Can't wait n' see what Minorin has in store next week. <33
Nov 7, 2008 2:02 PM

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Such a great episode was LOL the first minute with Kushieda/Taiga attacking Ami XD and Taiga agreeing to help Kitamura was really funny and cute.

Also the most the enthuisastic speech from the president about picking up litter, hahaha!!

maybe my opinion has changed of Ami at the end when she went crazy mode infront of the stalker 0__0
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Nov 7, 2008 4:25 PM

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This is another great reason you shouldn't be a stalker
And the episode was hilarious

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This episode was better than some of the previous ones. I love Ami. She's by far the best character in this show.
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