Wow, cool, some rational responses! Responses merited.
Veronin said: Lol, anime =/= reality. I mean, I understand what you mean, I'm not a fan of Taiga or the whole abusive tsundere thing either, but I think it's a bit too early to judge her character anyways.
That being said, if she becomes another Louise, I will probably drop this show. Other than that, I think it's pretty good.
corroded said: dude, it's anime :D anything can happen, however illogical it is. personally, i watch anime for fun, i don't care about the logic in all those stuff. judging by the shows you have watched, it seems you have watched a lot of logic bending shows anyway, so why the hate on toradora?(this is just a friendly question btw :) )
in any case try to watch ep 2 first before complaining about the logic. the lead is a nice guy and he is OC(obsessive-compulsive) about dirty things(remember spotting the molds in his bathroom and cleaning it up?) that explains why he cleaned taiga's house.
The fact that anything can happen in anime does not mean that it should. And like I said, absurd background reasoning piled on absurd plotting does not help unless you are happy to can just sit yourself down and take whatever your TV throws at you. That's emphatically not my outlook.
Fun that does not make sense is not fun - unless you expect it not to. There is no reason for this not to make sense. To me, the logic bypass here seems basically pointless and gratuitous; everything about the thing is believable, except the way people behave and why. Things I watch, or rather continue to watch, that bend logic bend it for some reason. For a better understanding of my attutude here, I would cordially invite you to look at the tag notes on my blog, then do a tag search on my list for Total Logic Bypass and study what you get, what scores they got and whether I finished them or not.
soulelle said: I'm afraid you came to the wrong place seeking for that. Toradora is something completely different from real life experience. It's a romantic and exaggerated comedy. It has nothing to do with drama you're looking for. I'd recommend you to check out a couple of shoujo dramas like Bokura ga Ita or Hachimitsu to Clover instead.
As to the Toradora, forget about reality, just have fun and enjoy the Show ^^
Ain't that the truth. Still, Lovely Complex and Kare Kano are romantic and exaggerated comedies while also being dramas, seem pretty close to real life in most of the ways this does (which is why they appeal to me) and do not as they are funny, touching and generally excellent are exactly the kind of thing I'm looking for, and the reason why I tried this out. Been vaguely thinking about Honey and Clover anyway, maybe I'll have a look at that instead, thanks =)
Nobleman said: I agree with you 100%. (but hey, there still will be 500+ people who will tell us that it is just an anime..)
I'm getting the idea that most of the people who like tsunderes either don't have a girlfriend (and want someone as cool as those little chicks to boss them around) or/and are masochists.
And knowing that japs don't have such a fulfilling sexual life (proven by statistics) i can understand how shows like that get a lot attention there. Everyone have their own fetishes...
As for the show, i expected less tsundere domination and more rebellious male character (which turned out to be a spineless slug). Animation was better than average, had it's own style, but nothing too much worthy to mention.
I suppose i should hide now from incoming fanboy fire....
Thankyou. I don't want to cast aspersions on anyone but I just don't get the apparently gigantic appeal of being treated like muck. Then again, submissive men and dominent women are kind of the ultimate Japanese relationship taboo, and working on the principle that what you are not allowed is what you find most exciting, the appeal in Japan is thus somewhat understandable. I would never have expected characters like this to be so popular overseas though. Possibly this tsundere archetype is kind of like wish fulfillment for a lot of women? Grabbing at straws here.
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