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| Whoa, I'm seriously loving the drama in this Anime. So serious and all. <3 So these desires being unleashed seems to be a bigger threat than the personality/body swapping. Yui is so right when Inaba lashed at Yui despite having her desire being unleashed. That's what Inaba was really thinking. Same thing happened with Taichi. Crap relationships seem like they're breaking. Next episode seems like it's gonna even more dramatic. Love how intense these episodes are. :D |
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| Oh god, now I can't wait for next week episode! Brb. *inventing a time machine.* |
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| Clearly it's just impossible to keep your feelings in check when something abnormal is happening and this surfacing of desires does nothing but aggravate that. Inaba still seems to be holding back something from the rest of the others and Kiriyama is just simply avoiding the problem completely. However like it was said, if they don't make it interesting, he'll make it interesting. Good episode. |
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| Good episode, cant wait for next week's drama. |
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| A not-so-bad episode. Plot and tension still building up. Can't wait to see what will happen next :D |
| Great episode seems to be laying the foundation for the main act to start. Inaba is still the best character and i really sympathise with her :X poor Inaba always acting so tough while suffering all alone. She totally needs a hug. And to all heartseed haters here... well don't hate him he's helping them get closer to each other and be stronger people in his own way although his reasons are annoying. Also, it's not like he'll kill anybody and if you did watch the anime carefully you do realise that his actions have really helped the 5 of them with various things. |
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| Oh my, this episode... So much drama. This show just keeps getting better. <3 |
| Great episode This show certainly has an insane amount of drama and it keeps getting more interesting. Looks like Inaba will be the center of all of the drama built up I can't wait to see how it ends |
| YAHOO!!!!!!! *sparkling~* |
| Isayama Hajime should be awarded The Manga with The Highest Inconsistencies of Characters' Appearances. He keeps performing multiple plastic surgeries on those Shingeki No Kyojin characters in a SINGLE chapter. Yes, I've read up to the latest chapter of Shingeki No Kyojin manga. Forced myself to read through the kidsketching chapters after the anime's ended. At least from now on, I only have to go through the hell once a month. Patiently awaiting SNK TV/movie/OVA anime-sequel. The 2015 SNK live-action movie would probably suck. |
| Lol,Aoki really saying "Okaa-san" to Yui's mother. |
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| I think Taichi was retarded for getting angry with Inaba for not helping out a friend. But I wouldn't say that would've been the best choice, to interfere in that situation, that is. Sometimes it's better if it's solved just between the two persons that are fighting. Anyway, nice episode, and next episode looks pretty dramatic. :O |
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| The situation sure is getting tense, the characters are finding it harder and harder to keep their emotions in check, flaring up every so often when they are unable to control themselves. Funny moments of the episode were Taichi getting tricked by his classmate at the beginning and Aoki addressing Yui's mother as "Mom" =D Taichi and Inaba are pretty similar in that both of them want the best for the people around them, and they both care about their friends a lot. Only thing is that Taichi likes to show this through action, helping whenever someone is in need, while Inaba prefers to keep to herself and bottle up her true feelings. Still, as far as pairings go, i still feel that Iori is a much better fit for Taichi compared to Inaba xD |
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Shirubaasouru said: YAHOO!!!!!!! *sparkling~* The best part this week :D |
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Rodness said: I think Taichi was retarded for getting angry with Inaba for not helping out a friend. But I wouldn't say that would've been the best choice, to interfere in that situation, that is. Sometimes it's better if it's solved just between the two persons that are fighting. Anyway, nice episode, and next episode looks pretty dramatic. :O I think it's really just a case of the group being on edge and the little annoyances they downplay are festering and they blow up. When you think about it. How many times do you get really worked up by someone(especially children) you care about and you just want to tell them to "knock it off!" But you don't cause you fear that you will upset them and ruin your relationship with them. So in the end you bury it and it usually just goes away. Or at the very worst you tell them what's bothering you in a most polite disarming manner possible. Well with Heartseed jerking them around like this, they can't control their inner thoughts and they just let it all out. Also, because they're already upset at what is happening to them and they're fearful over everything happening to them all, it amplifies their outbursts even more. I think Teichi was genuinely disappointed in Inaba running away from Iori's issue cause he thought Iori and Inaba were really close. I think that what he said was a bit of his truth on the situation loaded with a whole lot of anger at not being able to help everyone and keep the group together. Inaba really took it to heart though and that's sad. Because, I think it did break her heart to hear Teichi turn on her like that. It really seems like the "deepest desire" is like a trance. Once it triggers, the person can't control themselves until either they are stopped by an outside force or the core desire has been fulfilled. It makes them come off as much harsher than they would normally. That's why scenes come off as being "overly dramatic." |
CirrisAug 20, 2012 9:48 AM
| This episode makes me laugh more than the other episodes.. ^^ YAHOO!!  |
yu3Aug 19, 2012 8:09 AM
| Great Episode. Loved It. There's nothing more to say. LOL Greater than SAO's 7th but Sao wasn't bad either. I REALLY LOVE MY SUNDAY SCHEDULE. lol Both great series to anticipate and watch every week. |
| That was some deep drama Inaba seems to like Taichi more than just Masturbating to him |
| With a next episode titled And Then There Were None you know that shit WILL hit the fan. Agatha Christie everywhere. Kokoro Connect continues to establish itself as one of the best shows of this year. |
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| I think Inaba made this episode great. Letting out her emotions and telling it how it is. I think next episode things are going to get even worse and the group will break apart. |
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| A whole godload of desires got unleashed this ep. Wow. Some shit between Aoki and Taichi are about to go down. Can't wait. Also, Yahoo~! Aw gawd, Iori's so adorable~~~~~ *squeals* |
| The desire to sleep was the best! xD |
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| .... OMG! She nearly jumped! This desire thing is very dangerous for the likes of Inaba... Knowing Inaba, she might actually be secretly plotting to harm her friends to entertain balloon vine to end the whole thing and save her own skin... then self loathing over it and contemplating suicide... |
AirStylesAug 19, 2012 10:44 AM
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| Wow seriously too much hate on Inaba. So she isn't your traditional Moe "I should act cute as fuck" character. She did her purpose. She went and she spoke her mind and told the truth about the situation. If your going to be in hiding your pretty much being a coward and she even claimed it won't make a difference anyway since Heartseed will make it entertaining. She cares for her friends, her points are valid, and she tells the truth no matter what the cost. That speaks of a great tier character to me. |
yu3 said: This indeed made my day :3YAHOO!! |
 Toshino Kyoko!!! |
Rodness said: I think Taichi was retarded for getting angry with Inaba for not helping out a friend. But I wouldn't say that would've been the best choice, to interfere in that situation, that is. Sometimes it's better if it's solved just between the two persons that are fighting. Obviously Iori was in trouble |
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| A lot of pressure now. It reallly puts a lot of strain in their relationship now that their true feelings and thoughts are released wherein it is normally suppressed consciously... Damn that Heartseed! |
| I feel so bad for Inaba. It, of course, was wrong for her to get angry at Yui like that, but I honestly felt the same way in that Yui can't bail out like that. ^ She's definitely going to distance herself in the next few eps, I'm so sad :'/ It must suck having your desires released like that. Those things need to be kept to yourself. Even if Heartseed is making them say their desires, they still believe those things that they say, and so there's no excuse whatsoever. *sigh* This is so troubling. Anyway, nice episode, although the previous were better for me. This struggle feels more futile and helpless than the one before, and so it doesn't touch me as much.. |
Raphow said: episode kinda boring, i am getting tired of them over-dramatizing things, sooooo long, dropped... have fun guys bye bye we'll miss you really |
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| Yahoooo!~ Shit's really hitting the fan. Everyone's saying everything they think and end up hurting each other. Looks like there'll be more arguments next time too. |
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| Thing have taken a turn for the worse and Yui gonna gonna get it the worst. Ballon Vine is no joke. |
| The drama in this episode was okay. There were a couple of tense moments, but nothing like the last arc. I can't wait for the next episode. The preview shows a couple of "harsh" events that will occur. |
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| How much interesting would it be if your messing around broke their friendship Heartseed-san? Well for someone of her temperament I am surprise Inaban can put up with the bs of her friends for that long :P I think a group of five people not evenly match is asking for trouble, two couples and a single (poor Inaba feeling fifth wheel much.) |
MissileSoup said: s2012k1993 said: ... I agree with most what you've said, but I wouldn't go as far as calling Taichi's selflessness fake. He is willing to sacrifice himself for others, even if it is to uphold his own moral principles. Egoism and altruism are not mutually exclusive, and the presence of both doesn't negate the selflessness of the act in question. As a point, does psychological altruism exist? If so, is altruism both the behavior and motivation? In the case of Taichi, it really depends on what you are calling fake (on a side note, I could not bring myself to finish Nisemonogatari, so if there was some reference there, it went right past me). First of all, anyone who claims altruism doesn't exist and every human is inherently selfish needs to have much more evidence than just a claim that one helps others to make oneself feel happy. Say, the same amount of dopamine is released in my brain when I decide to save a drowning child or when I decide to march on towards my date. Most would save the drowning child at the expense of missing the date. Why? Even if everything is related to the chemicals in my brain or a form of evolutionary psychology, I still have a value system that might prioritize certain non-selfish values over selfish ones. By non-selfish, I mean values that might benefit others more they would benefit me. This definition of altruism is one I would use to look at Kokoro Connect. Is Taichi altruistic? I have argued that Taichi doesn't really solve others' problems. This might be because he doesn't follow through completely. More likely, he might just be satisfying an internal desire to see everyone getting along regardless of their non obvious, hidden troubles. I would argue that Taichi isn't really altruistic according to the definition above. His human nature is to help others, but I have never seen him putting things he really values beneath helping others. On the other hand, Inaba has been more altruistic than Taichi has ever been. We know Inaba doesn't trust others, doesn't trust herself and cherishes her friends more than anything else in the world. However, she puts these things second in order to promote a relationship between Iori and Taichi, to care for Yui and Aoki's welfare, and to help Yui realize her misgivings even at the expense of making Yui cry. Realizing she cannot tolerate such altruism, she starts to avoid others. As such, I would label Inaba the real altruistic person; whereas, Taichi only wears a facade of an altruistic person, a fake. However, these labels aren't fixed. One can also look at it with another perspective. I can change my labels: Taichi is real and Inaba is fake. Nisemonogatari explained another way of looking at the real/fake problem. Assume one is born good, so that one always does good things. He would be considered the real thing. Now, imagine one is born evil, but when the evil one tries to do good, he is considered fake. Taichi is the real helpful one because it's part of his nature. Inaba is a fake, trying her hardest until she breaks. However, Nisemonogatari, or rather Deishu Kaiki, explains the fake is superior to the real because the fake has to work hard to achieve the same goal as the real one's goal. In summation, I'm bashing Taichi and praising Inaba. Not only does Taichi fail to understand his situation and Inaba's situation, he jumps on her for not being an altruistic person. What irony!! |
s2012k1993 said: First of all, anyone who claims altruism doesn't exist and every human is inherently selfish needs to have much more evidence than just a claim that one helps others to make oneself feel happy. Say, the same amount of dopamine is released in my brain when I decide to save a drowning child or when I decide to march on towards my date. Most would save the drowning child at the expense of missing the date. Why? Even if everything is related to the chemicals in my brain or a form of evolutionary psychology, I still have a value system that might prioritize certain non-selfish values over selfish ones. By non-selfish, I mean values that might benefit others more they would benefit me. Calling Taichi fake is indeed a matter of definition, but I don't agree that Taichi's altruism is of a degree opposite of Inaba's. They merely have different approaches. Disregarding that point, I disagree with what you said about altruism. First of all, I didn't deny the existence of altruism, and your example doesn't prove the existence of psychological altruism. In the proposed case, why are you saving the child? Stated again, what is the motivation, "doing the right thing"? This supposed value system, is it not ultimately set by oneself? Unless you're claiming it's biologically inherent, it's not too different from Taichi. By your definition of non-selfish, consider Taichi's case. Does his acts benefit others more than they benefit himself? You can say it does not, but he genuinely thinks it does. Is his self-satisfaction more or less then what the others receive from him? While her core problem isn't completely solved, Yui certainly feels that Taichi has helped her sufficiently. As does Iori. I don't think you can weigh that. His methods may be wrong, but altruism is within oneself. That's why I attributed it to his inexperience, and why I don't find your reason the more likely one. He may not have put his something he values above helping others, but considering the things he value, that doesn't really make him any less altruistic. As for Inaba's reasons for avoiding the group now, I would hesitate to make conclusions until later, unless there was something substantial that I missed. |
MissileSoupAug 20, 2012 12:13 AM
sikandsak said: yu3 said: This indeed made my day :3YAHOO!! This is why I love Nagase. |
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| Great episode, although the drama is sort of week since it's probably Baloon ??? trolling again. I hope this show won't be relying on drama all the time, that would make it boring. |
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| I feel you, Inaba. :( |
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| Unfortunately I'm mostly interested in the love triangle and this episode didn't focus on it too much, apart from raising 1-2 flags. I still liked it 4/5. |
| Like the episode, I only hope they don't keep just only adding more drama. |
| Cute and Super Cute are now completely different from one another. |
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CommonerCoffee said: Let me just take a moment to tell you that you write excellently and your Nisemonogatari example was spot on. I largely agree with you here but I do feel as if Inaba was acting in a hypocritical fashion. Inaba largely accuses Yui of cowardice because of her decision to shut herself off from the rest of the world but that is similar to what she, herself, is doing: shutting herself away from Yui. The circumstances are quite different though. Inaba is by far my favorite character in the series but I'm not quite sure if I agree with her this episode. You know, a thought did occur to me last night. What if Inaba told off Yui was actually for Taichi's sake? Because right before that scene, we see Inaba showing concern that Taichi might run the risk of dying this time around. Also, Yui shutting herself in has pushed Taichi's impulse to help her once already. Thinking of it this way adds a whole dynamic towards Inaba's character, doesn't it? Because her and Taichi's argument at the end of the episode would then be Taichi's error of judgment; it's not because Inaba doesn't care about her friends, it's because she's in love with Taichi. |
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plushkin said: Holy crap, I didn't notice that at all, but I think I'm agree with you. She must've done that for Taichi's sake, and everything make more sense now if we think it that way.You know, a thought did occur to me last night. What if Inaba told off Yui was actually for Taichi's sake? Because right before that scene, we see Inaba showing concern that Taichi might run the risk of dying this time around. Also, Yui shutting herself in has pushed Taichi's impulse to help her once already. Thinking of it this way adds a whole dynamic towards Inaba's character, doesn't it? Because her and Taichi's argument at the end of the episode would then be Taichi's error of judgment; it's not because Inaba doesn't care about her friends, it's because she's in love with Taichi. Oh man, I surely love this show. |
Toshino Kyoko!!! |
| Well that was a nice episode. Quite emotional in parts. Still love Nagase. |
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