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Feb 21, 2012 12:25 AM
#1
Here are the weekly DVD & CD rankings for February 13th - 19th. DVD *1, 2,591 *,**2,591 Hellsing Ultimate vol.9 Limited Edition *2, 1,925 *,**1,925 Heart no Kuni no Alice: Wonderful Wonder World Deluxe Edition *3, 1,455 *,**6,037 Fullmetal Alchemist: Milos no Seinaru Hoshi Standard Edition *4, 1,324 *,**1,324 Yuru Yuri vol.6 *5, 1,144 *,**8,358 Fullmetal Alchemist: Milos no Seinaru Hoshi Limited Edition *6, *,983 *,***,983 Cardfight!! Vanguard vol.7 *7, *,781 1,123,587 My Neighbor Totoro *8, *,635 *,*24,216 One Piece Log Collection "Rocket Man" *9, *,597 *,***,597 Maji de Watashi ni Koi Shinasai! vol.4 10, *,535 *,*39,509 Usavich IV 11, *,403 *,***,403 Hanasaku Iroha vol.8 12, *,396 *,*63,714 Mobile Suit Gundam Unicorn vol.4 13, *,384 *,901,594 Gake no Ue no Ponyo 14, *,376 *,***,376 Heart no Kuni no Alice: Wonderful Wonder World Standard Edition 15, *,363 *,***,363 Ai no Kusabi vol.2 16, *,339 *,*19,208 Pokemon Best Wishes! the Movie: Victini to Kuroki & Shiroki Eiyuu Reshiram 17, *,319 *,475,738 Kiki's Delivery Service Blu-ray *1, 6,796 *6,796 Yuru Yuri vol.6 *2, 6,157 *6,157 Hanasaku Iroha vol.8 *3, 3,379 *3,379 Shinryaku!? Ika Musume vol.3 *4, 3,217 *3,217 Hellsing Ultimate vol.9 Limited Edition *5, 2,306 *2,306 Maji de Watashi ni Koi Shinasai! vol.4 *6, 1,726 *1,726 Ben-To vol.3 *7, 1,251 11,381 Fullmetal Alchemist: Milos no Seinaru Hoshi Limited Edition *8, *,844 **,844 Yuri Seijin Naoko-san (2012) Single CD *3, 23,354 23,354 Aquarion Evol "Kimi no Shinwa ~ Aquarion Dai 2 Sho" *9, *7,967 *7,967 Toriko "Sabrina" 16, *4,586 48,732 Nisemonogatari "Naisho no Hanashi" 20, *4,264 *4,264 Inazuma Eleven Go "Ohayo! Shining Day" 23, *3,263 17,323 Papa no Iukoto wo Kikinasai! "Happy Girl" 27, *2,912 11,377 Thermae Romae "Thermae Roman" 31, *2,429 *2,429 Love Live! "Mogyutto 'love' de Sekkinchu!" 38, *2,139 11,738 Ano Natsu de Matteru "sign" 39, *2,134 *2,134 Beelzebub "Only you ~Kimi tono Kizuna~" Album CD 22. 5,392 *5,392 Yuru Yuri Uta♪Album 48, 1,783 15,704 Tiger & Bunny Best of Hero Source: Oricon Youtaiju |
dtshykFeb 21, 2012 2:03 AM
Feb 21, 2012 12:28 AM
#2
Temporal Blu-ray + DVD Sales Rankings in Autumn 2011 (first volumes) *1, 41,369 Persona 4 The Animation *2, 24,605 Kyoukai Senjou no Horizon *3, 19,613 Working'!! *4, 12,137 Guilty Crown *5, 11,984 Boku wa Tomodachi ga Sukunai *6, *4,524 Sekaiichi Hatsukoi 2 *7, *4,333 gdgd Fairies *8, *4,240 Shakugan no Shana III (vol.2) *9, *4,077 Tamayura: Hitotose (Blu-ray data only, DVD *,920 ~1,131) 10, *3,421 Maji de Watashi ni Koi Shinasai! 11, *3,379 Shinryaku!? Ika Musume 12, *3,199 Maken-Ki! (Blu-ray data only, DVD *,920 ~1,131) 13, *3,026 Last Exile: Ginyoku no Fam 14, *2,336 Mirai Nikki 15, *2,333 Chihayafuru (vol.2) 16, *2,325 Mashiroiro Symphony: The Color of Lovers 17, *2,101 Ben-To 18, *2,038 C³ 19, *1,991 Mobile Suit Gundam AGE 20, *1,853 Kimi to Boku. 21, *1,546 UN-GO 22, **,954 Morita-san wa Mukuchi 2 out of the rankings Hunter x Hunter Phi Brain: Kami no Puzzle Not released yet Fate/Zero (Mar 7) |
Feb 21, 2012 12:31 AM
#3
Nice to see that Persona 4 is the top seller of this Fall season. That gives me some hope that its amazing predecessor may get animated in a near future. (Though it's still just my hopeful thinking.) |
Feb 21, 2012 1:17 AM
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It's damn great seeing Hellsing Ultimate at the top spot. |
Feb 21, 2012 1:30 AM
#6
Dusk252 said: Nice to see that Persona 4 is the top seller of this Fall season. That gives me some hope that its amazing predecessor may get animated in a near future. (Though it's still just my hopeful thinking.) Well, theres a chance Fate/Zero can top it when it finally goes on sale in a couple weeks. Its projected about 40k atm. |
Feb 21, 2012 1:35 AM
#7
nice that Hellsing is there!!! as well as Guilty Crown getting 12k sales and as usual Gundam Unicorn tops them all lol i watch the first episode of persona 4 and the animation quality very much like a naruto filler episode visual experience lol, why do people like this show if it has that kind of pathetic animation? anime should be watch mainly for its animation since anime just means animation in japanese language anyway |
Feb 21, 2012 1:57 AM
#8
Nisemonogatari and Ano Natsu de Matteru? ( ´∀`) |
Feb 21, 2012 2:20 AM
#9
j0x said: nice that Hellsing is there!!! as well as Guilty Crown getting 12k sales and as usual Gundam Unicorn tops them all lol i watch the first episode of persona 4 and the animation quality very much like a naruto filler episode visual experience lol, why do people like this show if it has that kind of pathetic animation? anime should be watch mainly for its animation since anime just means animation in japanese language anyway Because clearly that story and plot isn't worth watching for if the animation is bad. But seriously, if everyone should watch anime because solely of animation, then Guilty Crown should have sold 50k+. But it didn't happen, so your regular anime fan appreciates a good plot as much as good animation, thank you very much. |
Feb 21, 2012 2:22 AM
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neurogal91 said: Because clearly that story and plot isn't worth watching for if the animation is bad. But seriously, if everyone should watch anime because solely of animation, then Guilty Crown should have sold 50k+. But it didn't happen, so your regular anime fan appreciates a good plot as much as good animation, thank you very much. you mention Guilty Crown, so that means Persona 4 has way better story and story execution than Guilty Crown? |
Feb 21, 2012 2:34 AM
#11
RyanSaotome said: I should have added "so far" to my post... Anyway, not like I'd complain about that^^ Up until now, ufotable did a great job adapting the best thing I've ever read.Dusk252 said: Nice to see that Persona 4 is the top seller of this Fall season. That gives me some hope that its amazing predecessor may get animated in a near future. (Though it's still just my hopeful thinking.) Well, theres a chance Fate/Zero can top it when it finally goes on sale in a couple weeks. Its projected about 40k atm. |
Feb 21, 2012 2:54 AM
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dtshyk said: Single CD *3, 23,354 23,354 Aquarion Evol "Kimi no Shinwa ~ Aquarion Dai 2 Sho"" 27, *2,912 11,377 Thermae Romae "Thermae Roman" Album CD 48, 1,783 15,704 Tiger & Bunny Best of Hero Yay~ |
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Feb 21, 2012 2:54 AM
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j0x said: neurogal91 said: Because clearly that story and plot isn't worth watching for if the animation is bad. But seriously, if everyone should watch anime because solely of animation, then Guilty Crown should have sold 50k+. But it didn't happen, so your regular anime fan appreciates a good plot as much as good animation, thank you very much. you mention Guilty Crown, so that means Persona 4 has way better story and story execution than Guilty Crown? Just to say that Guilty Crown has better animation than the rest, but it didn't sell like hotcakes if people watch because of animation. Even Working'!! outsells Guilty Crown. Could be because the plot and story isn't executed very well. As I have never watched (or even played) Persona 4, I have no comment on that. My point simply is that anime fans loves good story executed well even if it has standard animation more than top-notch animation without a good story. |
Feb 21, 2012 3:11 AM
#14
dtshyk said: *8, *,844 **,844 Yuri Seijin Naoko-san (2012) Ouch, Anime Bunko. I'm scared to find out how much Minori Scramble and Gyo actually sold. |
Feb 21, 2012 3:35 AM
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j0x said: nice that Hellsing is there!!! as well as Guilty Crown getting 12k sales and as usual Gundam Unicorn tops them all lol i watch the first episode of persona 4 and the animation quality very much like a naruto filler episode visual experience lol, why do people like this show if it has that kind of pathetic animation? anime should be watch mainly for its animation since anime just means animation in japanese language anyway you should know an anime made from a popular game that have 300,000+ Sales in japan would have Guaranteed Success |
Feb 21, 2012 3:43 AM
#16
PointmanW said: you should know an anime made from a popular game that have 300,000+ Sales in japan would have Guaranteed Success Bullshit. Having fans is one thing, having an adaption succeed is a completely different one. A good example would be Umineko. Yeah right, look at aaaaall those fans and how the anime flopped. P4 simply is a VERY good adaption. That's why it sells. Its writing basically. (Because fans know the story and the visuals seem to be not too good either..) Guilty Crown is the complete opposite. It looks nice, but the writing is apparently atrocious. (Writing, not story mind you. The story is very much a matter of taste. The writing.. not so much) |
Feb 21, 2012 4:09 AM
#17
neurogal91 said: As I have never watched (or even played) Persona 4, I have no comment on that. My point simply is that anime fans loves good story executed well even if it has standard animation more than top-notch animation without a good story. you have no point unless you both watch Guilty Crown and Persona 4 then, just try watching the first episode of Persona 4 and first episode of Guilty Crown then tell me who has the better plot and plot execution later on, because for me Persona 4 is no way have a better plot nor better plot execution than the hated Guilty Crown so for me Persona 4 has low visual quality and have mediocre story |
Feb 21, 2012 4:19 AM
#18
so yuruyuri doing good. from the title imply, like the mild yuri anime. |
Feb 21, 2012 4:39 AM
#19
Wow, I never expected Yuru Yuri to be doing well. That's nice to see. |
Feb 21, 2012 4:41 AM
#20
Wow. Kiki's Delivery Service! |
Feb 21, 2012 6:23 AM
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j0x said: neurogal91 said: As I have never watched (or even played) Persona 4, I have no comment on that. My point simply is that anime fans loves good story executed well even if it has standard animation more than top-notch animation without a good story. you have no point unless you both watch Guilty Crown and Persona 4 then, just try watching the first episode of Persona 4 and first episode of Guilty Crown then tell me who has the better plot and plot execution later on, because for me Persona 4 is no way have a better plot nor better plot execution than the hated Guilty Crown so for me Persona 4 has low visual quality and have mediocre story And that's when you misrepresent my argument. I merely refuted your point that people should 'watch anime because of animation only' (in your own words) and my point is people who watches anime prioritize good story more than animation, because anime is a form of story-telling, not just to see beautiful pictures animated and moving around. Because if people watch anime just to see beautiful pictures, then Guilty Crown should have been a hit success among the fall animes (as it has supposedly top-notch animation), but it isn't. Whether the story and execution of Persona 4 is better or worse than Guilty Crown is irrelevant to my point. But based on sales people loves Persona 4 more than Guilty Crown even if it has mediocre animation, so it could be Persona 4's story is executed better than GC. (And if someone going to argue with me because Persona 4 is a successful game= successful anime adaptation then read previous posters' arguments. They can explain why is this false.) |
Feb 21, 2012 6:34 AM
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Kiru_im_Ufo said: PointmanW said: you should know an anime made from a popular game that have 300,000+ Sales in japan would have Guaranteed Success Bullshit. Having fans is one thing, having an adaption succeed is a completely different one. A good example would be Umineko. Yeah right, look at aaaaall those fans and how the anime flopped. P4 simply is a VERY good adaption. That's why it sells. Its writing basically. (Because fans know the story and the visuals seem to be not too good either..) Guilty Crown is the complete opposite. It looks nice, but the writing is apparently atrocious. (Writing, not story mind you. The story is very much a matter of taste. The writing.. not so much) Umineko doesn't have that much of a fanbase anyway. Persona 4 is much more popular, so it would sell regardless of it being bad or good. |
Feb 21, 2012 7:37 AM
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neurogal91 said: And that's when you misrepresent my argument. I merely refuted your point that people should 'watch anime because of animation only' (in your own words) and my point is people who watches anime prioritize good story more than animation, because anime is a form of story-telling, not just to see beautiful pictures animated and moving around. Because if people watch anime just to see beautiful pictures, then Guilty Crown should have been a hit success among the fall animes (as it has supposedly top-notch animation), but it isn't. and i understand this really, i know that good story is the main factor of why most people watch a movie or a series and im just part of the minority that priorities animation first before the story, but read below neurogal91 said: Whether the story and execution of Persona 4 is better or worse than Guilty Crown is irrelevant to my point. But based on sales people loves Persona 4 more than Guilty Crown even if it has mediocre animation, so it could be Persona 4's story is executed better than GC. my point is that you should not jump to conclusions that Persona 4 has indeed far better plot and story exeuction than Guilty Crown so im daring you to just watch at least the first episode (or first 2 episodes) of Guilty Crown before you judge that Persona 4 has way way way better plot any movies and tv series that is popular does not mean it has good plot, remember naruto? remember bleach? and all their fillers? i bet you still love those anime that has lesser episodes but they are not so popular |
Feb 21, 2012 7:53 AM
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Kiru_im_Ufo said: PointmanW said: you should know an anime made from a popular game that have 300,000+ Sales in japan would have Guaranteed Success Bullshit. Having fans is one thing, having an adaption succeed is a completely different one. A good example would be Umineko. Yeah right, look at aaaaall those fans and how the anime flopped. P4 simply is a VERY good adaption. That's why it sells. Its writing basically. (Because fans know the story and the visuals seem to be not too good either..) Guilty Crown is the complete opposite. It looks nice, but the writing is apparently atrocious. (Writing, not story mind you. The story is very much a matter of taste. The writing.. not so much) jmal said: FlyingBanana8D said: Nisemonogatari and Ano Natsu de Matteru? ( ´∀`) Winter season shows, not out yet. Nise comes out April 25, AnoNatsu on March 23. PointmanW said: you should know an anime made from a popular game that have 300,000+ Sales in japan would have Guaranteed Success This is demonstrably false and I really wish people would stop perpetuating this misunderstanding. The correlation between the sales of source material and sales of the anime adaptation is fairly poor. It helps, but does no come close to guaranteeing, success. If original medium sales and anime sales followed some sort of consistent, direct relationship, Moshidora would be one of the best selling shows in history. Instead it sold maybe 500 copies a volume. If you object that we should restrict it to otaku-centric properties, then just look at almost any visual novel adaptation. Top 10 VNs regularly get adapted only to sell less than 4k a volume, often much worse. And of course there's a large graveyard of poor-selling video game and manga and light novel adaptations. Persona's success was not guaranteed, even less so it being a 30k+ smash hit. no you are wrong, Umineko and your top 10 VN are Visual Novel which played by just clicking your mouse to read dialog and choose from given choice, Persona 4 is a JRPG, which have complicated, well-built RPG gameplay and even have VN style dating sims. VN doesn't have much loyal fan and mostly played by otaku alone. while Persona 4, a great and famous JRPG that have much bigger loyal fanbase, played by normal people and gamer, not otaku alone so when they see their favourite game get an anime adaption, they will get curious and buy it even when they never seen anime before, that alone enough to boost the sales. |
PointmanWFeb 21, 2012 7:59 AM
Feb 21, 2012 7:58 AM
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PointmanW said: no you are wrong, Umineko and your top 10 VN are Visual Novel, Persona 4 is a JRPG. VN doesn't have much loyal fan and mostly played by otaku alone. while Persona 4, a great and famous JRPG that have much bigger loyal fanbase, played by normal people and gamer, not otaku alone so when they see their favourite game get an anime adaption, they will get curious and buy it even when they never seen anime before, that alone enough to boost the sales. good point, now i see why Persona 4 sells so well eventhough it has mediocre plot and a very poor animation quality |
Feb 21, 2012 8:25 AM
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*Does a spit take* Its out? episode 9 is finally out? FuckYeah.jpg |
Feb 21, 2012 8:32 AM
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Visual novel fans are some of the most obsessive collectors in fandom. It just doesn't usually translate over to anime, which is part of my point. But who buys the vast majority of anime DVD/BD? Anime in Japan is not well-priced for the casual buyer. Persona 4, assuming it's 8 or 9 discs (only 7 are solicited so far), retails for about ¥60000-67000 or about $750-875. and because of otaku buy so much expensive disc that they can't afford to buy every anime adaption of their favourite VN. and have you played Persona 4? it a JPRG that get 8+ score in almost every game website and known by all JPRG gamer, those gamer have much more money to spend than your usual otaku. don't forget that Persona 4 considered one of the best JRRG ever made. look at this. 11/47 game website give 10/10, 26/47 give 9.0->9.8, 7/47 give 8.0->8.8, only 3/47 give 6.8->7.6 If every Persona 4 fan in Japan thought the anime were as shit as some people here feel, it wouldn't be selling anywhere near this much. most people who consider Persona 4 anime shit are people who haven't play the game. as a Persona 4 player myself, i think the anime really good and would buy it if i have a chance. and look at Persona 4 forum here, animesuki thread and ATLUS forum, most of people there have played the game and think the anime is a really good adaption EDIT: RyanSaotome said: Persona 4 was topping the preorder charts on Amazon before the first episode aired. i can say most of them are JPRG gamer |
PointmanWFeb 21, 2012 9:00 AM
Feb 21, 2012 8:38 AM
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Kiru_im_Ufo said: PointmanW said: you should know an anime made from a popular game that have 300,000+ Sales in japan would have Guaranteed Success Bullshit. Having fans is one thing, having an adaption succeed is a completely different one. A good example would be Umineko. Yeah right, look at aaaaall those fans and how the anime flopped. P4 simply is a VERY good adaption. That's why it sells. It was topping the preorder charts on Amazon before the first episode aired. |
Feb 21, 2012 10:30 AM
#30
Don't see anything on this list that I really care about. 'Cept Totoro on its quest to rule the world. But that's nothing new. |
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Feb 21, 2012 11:13 AM
#31
*1, 2,591 *,**2,591 Hellsing Ultimate vol.9 Limited Edition |
Feb 21, 2012 12:06 PM
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Feb 21, 2012 12:42 PM
#33
@jmal I agree with everything that you said about P4. A pity sometimes people don't seem to WANT to understand and interpret clever posts. |
Feb 21, 2012 1:39 PM
#34
It's true that P4 sold more than 40k in the first volume but I believe the 2nd and 3rd only sold 20-30k And with amount of fanbase that its already have, it should be able to sell more I guess Seiji Kishi combined with AIC are not a good combination (I heard there is also a lot of problem during the production period) |
Feb 21, 2012 2:31 PM
#35
Congrats to Hellsing. I'm glad to see the Papa no Iukoto song "Happy Girl" up there. It's actually probably my favourite OP this season. ^^= |
Feb 21, 2012 5:28 PM
#36
jmal said: This is unprovable. It's not possible to calculate the sales a show "should" get. you can say P4 (or F/Z) was the most anticipated anime last fall due to the strong fanbase they already had. It's true that we cannot calculate how much 1 show should sell. considering large hardcore fanbase its had, it should be able to do better (in v2, 3, ...). lack of 'eyecandy' animation might turn the gamefans and a lot of people off, that is might one of many reasons why there is so significance drop from v1 to v2 jmal said: I'm guessing the production committee might not agree. It's always possible that a different creative staff could have made more. And it's just as possible they could have sold less. what I'm saying is, there is a rumour that a lot of animators quit during the pre-production of P4 and the result is you can see a lot of people complain about the animation quality why are they quit again? I can only think there are problems between them (animators) with the Director (Seiji) or the Studio itself (AIC) jmal said: In any event, debating whether a show would have sold 30k or 35k or 40k or 45k is very much splitting hairs. It's already unquestionably in mega-smash-hit, top-5(orbetter)-sales-of-the-year territory at any of those numbers. yeah P4 is definitely gonna grab at least top 5 position in terms of sell in 2012 (currently on 3 with Nise and F/Z in the 2nd and 3rd position respectively) |
Feb 21, 2012 8:36 PM
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articuzwolf said: It's true that P4 sold more than 40k in the first volume but I believe the 2nd and 3rd only sold 20-30k And with amount of fanbase that its already have, it should be able to sell more I guess Seiji Kishi combined with AIC are not a good combination (I heard there is also a lot of problem during the production period) this is some BS that you randomly spat out P4 selling better than Sengoku Basara adaptation that its game sell much better than P4 game. And have you ever heard Tales of Abyss anime adaptation sales? Its barely selling.. and the anime produced by Sunrise and have larger fanbase than Persona. So that argument about adaptation source popularity determine the anime adaptation success just trash down to toilet. The fan must like it too if they buying, they would not buy random ass adaptation such like Majikoi anime, but I'm sure Majikoi anime can sell a lot better if got treatment that Clannad or Steins; gate get. |
Feb 21, 2012 9:54 PM
#38
Still mostly crap from places 2-12 of Autumn season. I wonder how high Fate/Zero can rank when it's released. |
I probably regret this post by now. |
Feb 22, 2012 5:04 PM
#39
Feb 23, 2012 6:06 PM
#40
jmal said: Nothing else slated for 2012 so far really screams "massive 30k+ hit" to me quite yet, but there can always be surprises. Watch out for Natsuiro Kiseki. Its got some serious talent behind it (director of FMA, script writer of Cowboy Bebop, series compositioner of Monster, character design of Railgun), yet its a moe show. I don't think it'll be just a normal moe show with that kinda talent though... so I'm thinking that might be one of the big hits of the year. |
RyanSaotomeFeb 23, 2012 6:09 PM
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