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Jan 30, 2012 8:06 PM
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Oh crud, to end the volume on a cliffhanger.

Alright, here's my guess: the President's role is really over. Next 2 volumes will be Joestar VS Dio.
Jan 31, 2012 1:07 AM
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Oh, the tension! What's gonna happen now? I really am not sure...

I wouldn't know what to do myself in that situation. Four chapters ago I would've said "kill the son of a bitch" without a moments hesitation, but now...Valentine really is a good talker. Let's hope we won't have to wait that long for new scanlations.

Nilvius said:

Alright, here's my guess: the President's role is really over. Next 2 volumes will be Joestar VS Dio.

I don't think so. Because for that to happen, Valentine would have to get a new Dio from a different world. "Our" Dio is long dead.
Jan 31, 2012 1:14 AM
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Hmm, how do I put it, I find it hard to believe that the author will just demote a major character like that. I mean, it IS Dio after all. Even in Stone Ocean, where he wasn't the main villain, he still had some influences. Here so far, he's more less just like any other of the opponents.
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Jan 31, 2012 2:09 AM
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Sure, I kinda agree with you. I'd be the last person to not like Dio coming back. But first of all, he wasn't really a villain in SBR. Sure he might've started as one, but even then he was more the asshole-ish rival. And in the end he seemed more like one of the protagonists. Sure, he did it for his personal gain, but he did fight for the "right" side.

But above all else: He was run over by a train and cut in half. He's as dead as one can be. So the only way for him to come back is, as described above, a different version of him. And why would Valentine ever do that? Well, gues we have no choice but to wait. (or read spoilers, but who wants that?)
Feb 14, 2016 7:28 PM
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With these situations, I always hope the protagonist doesn't fall for the trap, but in this case I'm hoping Johnny doesn't kill Valentine immediately. I'm convinced Valentine is trustworthy.
Feb 25, 2016 8:33 AM
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I dunno if I should trust Valentine but I do... Seeing Johnny so conflicted is so heartbreaking, damn. He really loves Gyro.
Jan 1, 2017 10:12 PM
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An interesting dilemma chapter.
Apr 10, 2017 7:40 AM
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He's gonna take the deal. Perfect!
Apr 21, 2017 10:04 AM
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No don't do it
It's a classic villain lie

Poor Johnny he just want to live with Gyro, let him live in peace :(
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Nov 27, 2017 7:05 AM

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He was tricked!
I don't believe that guy.
May 14, 2018 11:18 AM

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This is what makes Funny Valentine arguably the best Jojo villain. Funny’s views on patriotism is what drive him, everything he’s doing is for the sake of his country. I believe that he’ll always stick to his vows

I love the moral ambuigty in this scenario where one could argue that Johnny’s actually the ‘bad guy’. That’s because Funny isn’t written as a villain, but as his own person who fully believes in what he’s doing is for the sake of his country.
Sep 16, 2018 2:17 PM

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Wouldn't trust a single word that comes out of that prick's mouth.
Nov 1, 2018 4:07 PM

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If he's really like that... that's the best villain in JoJo. Or more like "final boss", or something that sounds less bad.

What a cliffhanger!
Jul 17, 2019 3:09 AM

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Valentine was so convincing that I even believed him... let's see what comes next
Aug 4, 2020 6:38 PM

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Funny Valentine sounded very convincing, HOWEVER I think he as an ace up his sleeve to defeat Johnny and just needs Johnny to cancel his spin. Oh, and by the way - awesome cliffhanger!

I liked those small icons emphasizing and depicting what Valentine was talking about. ;p
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Aug 30, 2020 3:24 PM

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"I promised not to kill Mr. Steel" yea but you was stepping on his wounds like a mf tho

Johnny don't fuck this up
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Jul 9, 2021 10:45 AM

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I really pray Funny isn’t just lying here, because he has convincing ideals. He’s becoming one of my favorite villains.




Aug 23, 2021 7:49 AM

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Damn chapters ago i wouldn't believe that mf but now with that talk, wow, he even convince me to believe him and i actually do, wow what a cliffhanger. I really don't know what will happen and what would Johnny do, I even don't know what would I do, wow!
Sorry for my english xD!

RIP Kentaro Miura :(
RIP Akira Toriyama :(

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Wow, this was a really good chapter. Araki has built toward this dilemma with some finesse. Valentine's endless rotation throughout the dimensions was amazing, too. I'm glad I'm reading the black and white version. Araki's lines are first-rate. I don't know whether Johnny will take the deal, but I hope he realises that even if Valentine brings over a Gyro from another dimension, that's just depriving that world of its own Gyro, which potentially just steals away another Johnny's friend. Either way, Gyro somewhere is going to be dead.
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Dec 27, 2021 5:00 PM

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tbh valentine does sound convincing
Jul 28, 2022 12:57 AM
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Few chapters ago I'd have not felt bad for Valentine if he was killed. But now I feel like he really is a righteous person or at the very least a smooth talker
Oct 14, 2022 9:14 PM

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that was intense welp. valentine sure have made a point
Apr 18, 2023 4:31 AM
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Valentine really just proved why he is one of the best antagonists in manga as a medium. Wow what a chapter!!!
Jul 22, 2023 2:14 PM

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What a cliff-hanger man...
Holy shit, this chapter was great, I really can't wait to find out what Johnny will choose to do or how the plot will develop after his choice.
Oct 6, 2023 5:51 PM
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I didn't think the story would go this way after Johnny beat up Valentine, but this is super interesting. I wonder if Johnny is considering that himself in another world would lose Gyro so that this world's self can see him again, since that was what I was thinking about but it never got brought up
Nov 20, 2023 2:19 AM

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Valentine was the good guy, he's a deep and complex character yes he killed but he's more a genuine good president than pretty much all of the presidents since LBJ. He cares about America and he honours his vows, he collects the corpse and does everything he does to help the nation to serve his father's union past the confederacy. A true hero.
Jan 27, 1:52 AM
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arakis sudden emoji obsession LMFAOOO


WHATS JOHNNY GONNA DO ARGHHH
IS VALENTINE BEING FR OR IS HE THE NUMBER 1 GASLIGHTER


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