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Jul 24, 2011 9:54 PM
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Hungshu said:
Well 6/10 for me Himea Taito Haruka moment in class was nice.

I fell strange why Himea watch Taito die two time in rain but don't take him in building but she just wait to the him.


I can understand why it would come off as strange, but it's not as though they were in the midst of a life or death battle this time where Taito was at a serious risk for really losing his life.

In both the manga and LN, Himea told Taito to get back inside before he was at any serious risk for using up the rest of his lives. Given that there wasn't any other immediate threat, she had no real reason to be concerned that Taito would lose anymore of his lives before the fifteen minute time limit reset itself.

VioLink said:
I doubt she would ever care if the bugs started eating the other students


Probably not. With the exception of Taito of course, she doesn't hold individual human lives in much regard. One could argue it's an expected result of the 'world' she lives in, one in which humans are easily treated as little more than food to some.
Jul 24, 2011 9:55 PM

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I think i will keep watching. The backstory was a little underwhelming and not very cool. Hinata pulls an obvious troll and reappears. There was one or two funny moments in the first half of the show.

Think this will end up being average.
Jul 24, 2011 10:07 PM
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ShinnKamiyra said:
Hungshu said:
Well 6/10 for me Himea Taito Haruka moment in class was nice.

I fell strange why Himea watch Taito die two time in rain but don't take him in building but she just wait to the him.


I can understand why it would come off as strange, but it's not as though they were in the midst of a life or death battle this time where Taito was at a serious risk for really losing his life.

In both the manga and LN, Himea told Taito to get back inside before he was at any serious risk for using up the rest of his lives. Given that there wasn't any other immediate threat, she had no real reason to be concerned that Taito would lose anymore of his lives before the fifteen minute time limit reset itself.

VioLink said:
I doubt she would ever care if the bugs started eating the other students


Probably not. With the exception of Taito of course, she doesn't hold individual human lives in much regard. One could argue it's an expected result of the 'world' she lives in, one in which humans are easily treated as little more than food to some.

the reason why she doesn't care about the other humans is because of what the church and military had done to her.
Jul 25, 2011 2:32 PM

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Was mediocre as ever. 3/5 only because it's amusing sometimes.
Jul 25, 2011 6:29 PM

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I like how Gekkou completely ignores the part where his parents were killed as if it was some sort of every day occurrence and only slightly gets angry about how his twin brother said he would kill him. lol this series
Jul 25, 2011 9:14 PM
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LordMarluxia said:
I like how Gekkou completely ignores the part where his parents were killed as if it was some sort of every day occurrence and only slightly gets angry about how his twin brother said he would kill him. lol this series


You've got to admit that Gekkou's pretty interesting in that respect. Though why do you believe he ignored his parents' deaths as though it were something trivial and focused all his intent on Hinata?

Mayhaps he's too much of a genius for us to really understand? Lol.
Jul 27, 2011 11:52 PM

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ShinnKamiyra said:
LordMarluxia said:
I like how Gekkou completely ignores the part where his parents were killed as if it was some sort of every day occurrence and only slightly gets angry about how his twin brother said he would kill him. lol this series


You've got to admit that Gekkou's pretty interesting in that respect. Though why do you believe he ignored his parents' deaths as though it were something trivial and focused all his intent on Hinata?

Mayhaps he's too much of a genius for us to really understand? Lol.


Or maybe he has already moved beyond the limited human perceptions of good and evil. After all, they have already mentioned Crowley's name in connection with one of the organizations after Himea. Since "Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the Law" seems to be the philosophy driving Hinata, we shouldn't be surprised if Gekkou is a little more concerned about what his twin is up to.

Not having read the manga or LN yet, I can't comment on fidelity to character, but it strikes me that based on the semi-spoilers in other comments we have a lot to learn about just who Himea and a few other folks really are in this anime. Remember that Himea aged herself to catch up with Taito as soon as she escaped from the void--the ditzy 16 year old identity she currently has is as meaningful as a t-shirt and jeans. Just be mindful that relationships between humans and immortals are usually tragedies, not romances.

And yes, I hate the new ED as well...
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Jul 28, 2011 7:04 AM
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rodac said:
Or maybe he has already moved beyond the limited human perceptions of good and evil. After all, they have already mentioned Crowley's name in connection with one of the organizations after Himea. Since "Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the Law" seems to be the philosophy driving Hinata, we shouldn't be surprised if Gekkou is a little more concerned about what his twin is up to.

Not having read the manga or LN yet, I can't comment on fidelity to character, but it strikes me that based on the semi-spoilers in other comments we have a lot to learn about just who Himea and a few other folks really are in this anime. Remember that Himea aged herself to catch up with Taito as soon as she escaped from the void--the ditzy 16 year old identity she currently has is as meaningful as a t-shirt and jeans. Just be mindful that relationships between humans and immortals are usually tragedies, not romances.

And yes, I hate the new ED as well...


Excellent opinion. Really, if you think about it, I can't think of any of the main characters that we've been introduced to thus far that rely on such traditional concepts to define them or their actions.

As you've already adequately explained, Hinata is probably the most radical one with respect to this. It's difficult to perceive through the anime as it really doesn't touch on the inner workings of Gekkou's mind with respect to his brother, but I believe there's a part of him that's always hated the truth that, while he may well indeed be a genius while compared to other people, he still can't compare to his younger brother; likely the only person in the world that he believed really understood him.

To be standing in a place above normal people and yet so seemingly far below your only brother's 'place', must be terribly frustrating, to put it mildly. To try so hard and yet still not be able to see things from his POV... well, as one who also has a brother, I believe I can understand Gekkou's character a bit in that respect.

To quote a line from the manga, "It frustrates me to no end, but I still can't reach him with my power."

As for Himea and Taito, well... I believe their actions are dictated more so by love and dedication than anything else at this point.

Himea's "ditzy" character is really an anime-only thing. She's nothing of the sort in the manga or the light novel, as the most recent releases have made painfully clear. For example, anyone would know that from the moment she was reunited with Taito, she always told him that she loves him and it makes her happy to be with him. Some might cast this off as her being akin to a love-sick school girl or some other nonsense like that, but in reality



And as for Mirai... well, I haven't read anything about her, manga or light novel wise, that's given me any insight into her character. Not that I believe what we've seen is anything close to all there is to her, but right now she just seems like an impulsive kid, never mind concepts of good and evil. >>
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Jul 30, 2011 1:12 AM

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I think Mirai is more of an elemental being. If you think of the characteristics of lightning (powerful, capricious, uncontrollable) I think we see her essential character.
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Aug 14, 2011 6:31 AM

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Hmm, so the anime has now begun deviating by changing some of the scenes, nevermind all the cuts they made beforehand. It's good that Gekkou and Mirai's backstories made it in, though it was supposed to have been shown in a flashback quite a while before the fight with Hinata. They cut the scene with Gekkou making a contract with Mirai after she lost to him, though.
May 24, 2012 8:58 PM

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ShinnKamiyra said:
Yumekichi11 said:
Let's leave it at what you mention because your view is of the acceptance kind while mine revolves around a different notion like you mention. I will add the following:

Your POV it's more of that Himea cared for him because he was the first to show emotional piety for her. A deep feel sorry. We also don't know what happened to Taito to make him that sad that day so that I am missing to make a complete assessment but it's obvious that despite Taito can die, he seems to use more his power which robs him of his humanity since anything "Himea is going to die" and he does not mind using it even if it kills him as see in last episode.

So point being is love is blind and once you get dragged in you may never be what you were ever. In regards to that I feel bad for Taito because unlike Gekkou, he is bound to Himea and who knows if he dies when Himea dies. Servants are sometimes like that too.

And that is all.


As a finale to this brief, but enjoyable discussion on my end, let me just say that I don't feel sorry for Taito as I believe he's doing what he wants to do in protecting Himea. As one who harbors an honest desire to grow stronger in order to protect something important to him; regardless of what happens to his body, he's still a human in every way that really matters, IMO.

As to whether or not he'll die when and if Himea dies... well, that's a discussion for another time, and one a long ways off. We'll cross that bridge when we come to it.

As people who hold fundamental differences in our opinions, naturally we will never see things in the same light. ...Still, this was fun in its own way. It's nice to be able to argue with someone whose opinions are quite a bit difference from my own.

was raelly liking this discussion, there were a lot of good points.

aside from that, i hope the other girl doesnt get thrown away, shes' cool


Mar 9, 2013 1:29 PM

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Nice episode with some interesting development, things getting back warmed up, a bit backstory of the characters and well already a start that the past villain ain't dead yet so that's rather interesting! Quite nice swimsuit service as well! That ED was rather Moé!
Oct 21, 2016 8:24 AM

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ok so there are different dimensions....what I am more concerned of is...hinata's back story and yes... female protagonist also.
Apr 4, 2021 2:33 PM

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Gekkou casually brushed off the whole "sacrificed our parents" thing really easily, hyper focusing on the personal sleight of "my little brother is trying to kill me" bit instead. Huh.

Anyways, this show is littered with vampires, demons, magic circles, death as a minor annoyance, girls stripping a lot, shots at "the church," secret societies, special attack names, and school antics mixed in with superpowered supernatural action. And now we have acidic blood rain under a blood-red moon.

This isn't bad, but it's just...I dunno. I expected these kinds of things going into the show, but it's just...exactly as I expected? I just didn't think it'd be this straightforward.
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Wait, so the school is where the portals to go to the alternative universes are? That's quite interesting xD also nice development for Gekkou and his brother, it seems like he's definitely gonna be the antagonist of the show
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