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| THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE. ---------------------------------------- Cecil is so cute for coming out of the luggage, and informs Kujou about Victorique. Kujou found Victorique, but she refused him. Victorique is solving a mystery for her father by force, and Kujou is helping out behind her. The women with the same feature with Victorique and Cordelia... Both siblings got locked, and the magician... I kind of don't know his purpose, though. Seems like helping Kujou, or trying to get Victorique away. Nontheless in the end, Kujou is involving (meddling, he said) her. So, solving the mystery given by her father is the final arc?? |
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| Oh, Cecil. I hope you freeze to death. And Albert won't even see her himself. *sigh* Ohai Brian. And ohai Cordelia~ And wow, Kujo's like, dumb. Cecil's even more so. Guess what, Brian's pretty cool and all. He doesn't do shit to solve things himself though. And neither does Cordelia. Everyone is relying on Victo to solve everything. So anyway, I can see there being two possible outcomes of this case. And I guess since it was 16 years since Cordelia disappeared, that would make Victo 15. Also, why are occult people always such nutcases? |
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| Kujo is trying to not be useless and kinda gather some chaos pieces, but by some reason never inform them to Victorique. Maybe next episode. Also  They really don't look like the same person, but that might just be my impression. Then again Brian is suppose to be a great illusionist. (Ill swap for better res as soon i get ones) I find it rather funny that even the ritual seem like something from the occult department, it was no more than a bunch of artifacts to help her focus. Sadly it was not that she couldn't focus, it was just that there wasn't enough clues in the room. |
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| Obviously they were searching for a double ganger of the queen, so they could pull of that head - body trick. I hope I'm wrong. |
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| Cecil is so jealous of Kujo. Victorique needs more information about the case than just information that the public will get. They need people's knowledge and other information people have than things they can read. Now that she's given the opportunity to roam around, she'll be able to solve the case and a clue might be in the grave of Nicole. |
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herox3 said: ByeByeMrMoon said: Obviously they were searching for a double ganger of the queen, so they could pull of that head - body trick. I hope I'm wrong. Considering how predictable the mysteries are in this series, it's very plausible. I was also thinking of something along the lines of that when they mentioned the secretary audition. Everything points that way, such a shame she had what 19 years (1881-1900), she gets "scouted" get her head chop of and then her head explodes (?). She was suppose to resemble in order to fool the witnesses, but the question Victorique's father (which i think was present during the head explosion) had was not this. It was why she fake her death? |
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choyos said: herox3 said: ByeByeMrMoon said: Obviously they were searching for a double ganger of the queen, so they could pull of that head - body trick. I hope I'm wrong. Considering how predictable the mysteries are in this series, it's very plausible. I was also thinking of something along the lines of that when they mentioned the secretary audition. Everything points that way, such a shame she had what 19 years (1881-1900), she gets "scouted" get her head chop of and then her head explodes (?). She was suppose to resemble in order to fool the witnesses, but the question Victorique's father (which i think was present during the head explosion) had was not this. It was why she fake her death? I am hoping the mystery is a little more complex than a simple body-double trick. |
| Kujo screaming 'VICTORICAA' was really getting on my nerves. Shouting one time doesn't seem to work for this guy, he HAS to scream for her like five times before he feels satisfied. </rant> |
Alvord12 said: Kujo screaming 'VICTORICAA' was really getting on my nerves. Shouting one time doesn't seem to work for this guy, he HAS to scream for her like five times before he feels satisfied. </rant> ya he's overacting too much and her stupid father is overacting too tying victorique lightning the candles or whatever ritual plus those annoying guards who keep nagging her ear how the hell can she concentrate to solve the mystery if the guards keep shouting "solve it!" pressure can't solve anything. :/ anyways looking forward to solve the coco mystery |
XxshizxX said: and her stupid father is overacting too tying victorique lightning the candles or whatever ritual plus those annoying guards who keep nagging her ear how the hell can she concentrate to solve the mystery if the guards keep shouting "solve it!" pressure can't solve anything. :/ Well, he works for the government. Governments never work on common sense and rationality, especially when they're from the branch of the "Ministry of Occult" |
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Alvord12 said: Yeah, I thought the same. He repeated so many lines in this episode.Kujo screaming 'VICTORICAA' was really getting on my nerves. Shouting one time doesn't seem to work for this guy, he HAS to scream for her like five times before he feels satisfied. XxshizxX said: We cannot hope for rational thoughts from this father who has gone insane.and her stupid father is overacting too tying victorique lightning the candles or whatever ritual plus those annoying guards who keep nagging her ear how the hell can she concentrate to solve the mystery if the guards keep shouting "solve it!" pressure can't solve anything. :/ |
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Alvord12 said: Kujo screaming 'VICTORICAA' was really getting on my nerves. Shouting one time doesn't seem to work for this guy, he HAS to scream for her like five times before he feels satisfied. </rant> this. so annoying. |
Vanisher said: Alvord12 said: Kujo screaming 'VICTORICAA' was really getting on my nerves. Shouting one time doesn't seem to work for this guy, he HAS to scream for her like five times before he feels satisfied. </rant> this. so annoying. Yeah, I swear half the dialogue this episode was just Kujo screaming about Victorique. |
Alvord12 said: Kujo screaming 'VICTORICAA' was really getting on my nerves. Shouting one time doesn't seem to work for this guy, he HAS to scream for her like five times before he feels satisfied. </rant> I think most of us all agree on this. It was the one factor that prevented me from enjoying this episode as much as I should have |
| lol Kujo sounds so whiny everytime he screams out Victorique's name. I swear every episode he has to mention her name like thrice. Anyway this Coco case seems pretty interesting. I'm curious about the identity of the gentleman who gave Sophie tickets to the show. |
Oosran said: Because it's cool to be one.Also, why are occult people always such nutcases? I demand the staff to change Kujo's VA even if it's really really late. Not expecting much complexity from the case because so far it has grandly disappointed me. |
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ByeByeMrMoon said: Obviously they were searching for a double ganger of the queen, so they could pull of that head - body trick. I hope I'm wrong. if that's so, then the ultimate question would be why? what's the reason for making it look like the queen's dead? also, is Coco Rose supposed to be '"dead" already? i went back to some parts of the Leviathan story, but couldn't find a clue.. except that the Jupiter Roget guy who tried to disprove alchemy, was also the same guy who witnessed the exploding head thing... and supposedly also the man who gave Sophie a ticket, and is sitting beside her... Alvord12 said: Kujo screaming 'VICTORICAA' was really getting on my nerves. Shouting one time doesn't seem to work for this guy, he HAS to scream for her like five times before he feels satisfied. </rant> yeah, Kujo's getting very annoying... seriously, he's so dense a character... damn... |
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| God damn it Kujo, STFU. She heard you the first time! I swear if Kujo shouts out "VICTORICAA!" one more time, I'm going in there to bitch slap him. |
| That Nicole sure looked like Coco a lot. I wonder if Nicole's grave is actually empty while she herslef siwtched places with queen for some reason and got murdered instead. Still can't see reason to kill the queen. Kujo is so annoying and Grevil needs more screentime. |
| Ok, my theory! The loony queen died in 1900. Possibly killed her self, after the Leviathan incident. For some reason the government doesn't want to reveal the queens demise, so they scout for a substitute. Nicole Lulu takes the queens place (alas becomes a nobles mistress), while the real Coco Rosie is buried in Nicole Lulu's grave. The fake queen gets sent off to her land residence, where she's out of the public eye, so no one would reveal the fraud. In 1914 the French emissary demands a meeting with the queen, so in fear of getting the fraud exposed, they get rid of Lulu. |
| It's obvious that Nicole's death and that of the queen is connected and there is a big possibility of one of the still being alive tho question is who. The ministry of Occult is also a faction that does something else then what it's name implies there just fore filling the wise of the marquise and his hunger for a new world. The question is what will he gain from all of this and is he the one that killed the queen? |
herox3 said: ByeByeMrMoon said: Obviously they were searching for a double ganger of the queen, so they could pull of that head - body trick. I hope I'm wrong. Considering how predictable the mysteries are in this series, it's very plausible. I was also thinking of something along the lines of that when they mentioned the secretary audition. Yeah... I immediately thought this. As for Brian Roscoe... I feel like he was demonstrating that it's possible for a person to be at 2 places at the same time (using and illusion/doppelganger/whatever)... in his own weird way, I feel like he was trying to show them & give them clues. But yeah... excited for next week! 4 more eps left... ;_; |
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catscradle said: Anyone got any ideas as to the possible meaning of the line on Nicole Lulu's tombstone at the end of the episode? It reads: [fr] Argent et mignon oisillon bleu de dors ici à jamais. With 'dors' as imperative of 'sleep' ( = SLEEP!) and 'de' making the first part the object of the verb you can get: Sleep here forever, silver and blue darling nestling! or Sleep here forever, money and darling blue nestling! Or another possibly with the simple verb form: I sleep here forever as the silver and blue darling nestling. Why not be obvious and chisel in 'DIG HERE FOR THE CLUE' ? Well as I'm french I can answer this question. To begin with it's 'Argent et mignon oisillon bleu, je dors ici à jamais.' The english meaning would be 'Silver and cute blue chick, I forever sleep here' |
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| This show starts to piss me the hell off just by the fact that Kujo has to mention V's name 20 bloody million times every single bloody episode. What in the hell is wrong with him....... |
| im kind of lost now..... but oh well... it was a good episode ... i always like listening to Victorique's voice ^-^ |
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"You're doing it wrong!" Grevil knows what's up. It was painful to watch those Occult bastards screw things up. I'm looking forward to Victorique solving this mystey, though things seems pretty clear at this point. There are some f*cked up people in this country... |
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toneytigre said: God damn it Kujo, STFU. She heard you the first time! This. That is one annoying shout and it didn't just happen once but multiple times and I'm a person who doesn't get annoyed easily when it comes to anime. On the bright side. The case was interesting since it got me thinking and backtrack at some points of this episode. |
| Well yeah it was kind of annoying to hear Kujo shouting Victoriques name, but if someone is in that kind of situation I think it's something normal to do. |
| How come there are two of Brian? Good episode. Kujo did shout her name a lot, but I've gotten used to him doing that throughout the course of the anime. At least he did something useful. |
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| Is it just me, or did Brian get some randomly awesome powers. Yeah, he's a magician, but to pull off a teleportation/doppelganger illusion, and some air bender skills, hats off to him ^^ 4/5 from me. |
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| Good thing he got the chance to get to her so he can help her solve the case now. Pretty interesting case as well. That actress and the queen looking alike must have something to do with it. If Coco died in 1900, but someone has seen her in 1910, it must've been the queen? Looking forward to see how this unfolds! |
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| The animation seemed to have change a bit in this episode. If you look at the hair you'll notice how all of the characters have more details in their hair and alight alterations. Maybe I'm just crazy but whatever. I understood the story bug I had a hard time following it, wasn't loving this episode too much |
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| Kujo is getting on my nerves. All his shouting and meddling... Rrr. |
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| Kujo, seriously, must you repeat yourself a thousand million times? Plus I hate your whiny little voice D< Also, I kind of doubt you can fit yourself into a suitcase lol O_O I mean I've never tried but yea ... Nicole obviously has something to do with the Case, she's pretending to be Coco maybe? Brian's uber fast movements were like wtf lol So glad this is finally finishing. To be honest I expected more out of this "grande finale", and I haven't gotten it so far :S |
Alvord12 said: Kujo screaming 'VICTORICAA' was really getting on my nerves. Shouting one time doesn't seem to work for this guy, he HAS to scream for her like five times before he feels satisfied. </rant> I think everyone feels this way.... Honestly despite the fact we're at the climax of this series, I never really liked any of the characters, they're just too annoying. |
| Well, at least Kujo helped in this case even if he was annoying screaming Victorique's name. |
| VICTORICAAA!!! Just like what others said, it's soooooo annooooooooying.. /rage Also, I don't know what Brian is trying to do. He freed Victorique then uses smokes then disappear. O_o I hope he's not randomly showing off his magic. lol And what's wrong with those guards tying Victorique and forcing her to solve the case? -_- As to the case, it was obvious that it has something to do with a body switch. |
| I'm thinking that the ring girl was a body double for Queen Coco and they used her to fake the Queen's death, but that seems a little too obvious. |
| Lol, so Kujo is annoying, and this case obviously involves a body double (though I doubt it will be completely predictable, this series has a habit of not giving the viewer enough information until it's too late. I prefer stuff like detective conan where you are suppossed to solve it during the commercial break, but whatevs). But, on a completely unrelated note, did anyone else think that painting with the white silhouette of a bird (dove?) was beautiful? |
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