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Oct 7, 2008 9:21 PM
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I kinda dislike long flashbacks, but it was good to get to know shanas past
Jun 4, 2009 11:10 AM
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long flash back? no this was only 3 episodes.
heh you should watch gungrave, lol or even better, berserk.

the battle with shiro seemed lame for some reason though.
Jul 20, 2009 3:26 PM
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Lol she ate spam ^^
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Jul 22, 2009 2:04 AM
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so boring:-(
Aug 19, 2009 11:00 AM
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I kinda dislike long flashbacks, but it was good to get to know shanas past
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Aug 27, 2009 5:27 PM
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Hopefully the story line will pick up and they will finded a villain that isn't emotionally disturbing.
Oct 16, 2009 8:48 AM
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O_o the skeleton turned out to be a pretty decent guy... Too bad she had to kill him :(.

So nice long flashback is over ^^, Yay! not amazing nor bad just something that needed to be done in my opinion. now i wanna see more of the main plot "_".




Nov 25, 2009 12:17 PM
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I want to know more about the previous flamehaze, she seems a lot more interesting.
Jan 17, 2010 11:20 PM
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Its good to know more of shana's past, from the way it seems this would be the first time shes been able to [somewhat] experience what living a normal life is like (going to school etc)
Apr 11, 2010 5:52 AM

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Meh, her past didn't really interest me.
But it was an okay episode.
Apr 16, 2010 5:01 PM

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i liked this 3 episodes. it was good to know more about her... but i kinda forgot the main story xD lol now have to rethink about everything once again xP
hmm as for shiro.. yum xD :D me lajks:D
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Jun 20, 2010 5:59 PM
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that was a total epic fail for a background story, they kept throwing us random fact and the fights didn't make sense at all. The only thing I understood :

Shana was a human before and replaced the old red hair red hot eye lady. The maid was a princess before ? maybe... everything else is sooo random and pointless.

Oct 2, 2010 7:53 PM

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so that's why she like melon bread
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Oct 17, 2010 3:47 PM

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Cool story... sis. Is it just me, or I heard Shana laughing skittishly at the end? :> I start to like her attitude.


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Oct 26, 2010 6:10 PM

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I agree with most others. It was nice to get to know Shana's past and part of how she became a Flame Haze (and how she came to like melon-pan so much). A lot of it didn't really make sense to me, or, well, just went unexplained (uh... where did Wilhemina come from again? Can we get some info on the previous red-haired red-eyed Shana-like person?). Guess there's no time for covering those things though...

Ready to move on now. Let's keep the plot moving foooooorward~. It was nice to see Shana being a little bit more playful and less "RAWRARAWR" at the end.
Jan 2, 2011 1:20 AM

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ALL that just too find out why she likes melon bread so much? Geez...


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Sep 14, 2011 11:15 PM

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I would have liked a bit more information on what appeared to be the love triangle with the previous version of Shana, Wilhelmina, and the skeleton guy.

Looks like a good episode coming up.
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Dec 15, 2011 11:12 PM

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I'm happy the flashback is finally over.
Aug 2, 2012 3:43 PM

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TowardsTheStars said:
I'm happy the flashback is finally over.


This!

Although the music was good in this ep.
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Sep 8, 2012 5:54 AM
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MelbShaw said:
so that's why she like melon bread


I know i totally get it now!!

on another subject that left me with a lot of side questions... is shana like a reincarnation you know with the "i'll always choose this path" thing?
Jan 21, 2013 9:12 PM

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Dude they didnt tell us everything in this episode because its a 3 season anime.

If all you want in ninja fighting watch a more adult anime.
Mar 14, 2013 5:54 PM

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(I don't know if this topic is still "alive" or anything, but here goes:)

1. This still doesn't explain why she still likes melon bread, because from what I've seen, see has still liked melon bread even before the flashback began (although the ending did appear like it could be a possible reason.)

2. I noticed that Shana does not really change in height, if at all, between the flashback and the current.

Just some random comments, that's all.

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Jan 20, 2014 6:42 AM

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RandomUser101 said:
(I don't know if this topic is still "alive" or anything, but here goes:)

1. This still doesn't explain why she still likes melon bread, because from what I've seen, see has still liked melon bread even before the flashback began (although the ending did appear like it could be a possible reason.)

2. I noticed that Shana does not really change in height, if at all, between the flashback and the current.

Just some random comments, that's all.
Well in all honesty it might be because Wilhelmina gave that always to her, so she got to love it. As she said for her melon bread is a prize.

I feel like this episode was a bit sad... And we are finally back to present, and seems like we will meet Wilhelmina in the present too ^_^. Yeey for us.
Feb 3, 2014 7:36 PM

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It was good, but it was still very confusing...

Who was that Shiro or whatever is real name is? Why was the last Burning Eyes was fighting him?

What really is Alastor goal?

Who is that weird one eyed lady?

Also, the last Burning Eyes died being consumed by Alastor treasure, which is presumably the same treasure that give the power of the Burning Eyes. So that mean that at some point, Shana will consume herself? :S
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Apr 13, 2014 2:46 AM

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Are you kidding me? This was one of the worst arcs in anime I've ever seen. Flashbacks within flashbacks? What a joke. And there was absolutely no reason why this arc should've been brought up, considering it started with bread and ended up explaining Shana's past. I hope the rest of this season stays how the first 12 episodes were.
Apr 21, 2014 9:38 PM

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That was a nice arc.

I love well-placed meaningful flashbacks. This arc is quite well-done, I would say. I have become much more fond of this series.
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Jun 6, 2014 2:21 PM

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I think it was well done too.
It's good to know a bit more about the past of Shana.
Jul 21, 2014 1:58 AM

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nice to know some background
but I'm glad the flashbacks are over
Nov 24, 2015 5:27 PM

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Finally this boring arc is over. At least the last few minutes of this episode were somehow good. Melon pan gesture was nice.
It seems Wilhelmina loved Merihim albeit it was unrequited love like Merihim's love to previous flame haze.
And I doubt they would go with this backstory if we weren't meant to see her again.
(have to say that story of Shana's past even before she entered this Sanctuary would be much more interesting to me)

So far, this series has very incompetent antagonists, even Friagne didn't put much fight.
I fear this might be its main flaw in the end.

Oh, but right, now we are back on track, let's wait where this series moves next, I really wonder what is going to happen to Kazumi.
May 29, 2017 8:05 PM
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This is not making much sense. So Shana, in her very first minutes as a Flame Hazed, and without a sword, managed to defeat the super-powered Mystes who had killed many powerful Denizens? So why the hell is Shana, with the sword AND years of experience under her belt, struggling so much against denizens in the present? And then, no time to rest, a second boss fight against her trainer.

Wonder how the naked girl wearing only a cloak and bandages made ends meet at the beginning after they kicked her out of the nest.

Anyway, for a flashback arc this was pretty entertaining. Didn't miss the bland self-insert MC one bit.
Jun 4, 2017 7:34 AM

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The reason behind Shanas preference for melon bread was revealed.

Overall the flashback was ok, but I wasn't a too big fan of it.

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Apr 11, 2018 11:07 AM

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Sure. Skeleton guy is still best.
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Jun 9, 2019 4:52 AM

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Alrighty then. Gotta say these folk are a little strange.
May 4, 2020 8:55 PM
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Okay, just watched this episode. The flashback literally just adds more question than answering the previous question. The best choice here is to put the flashback only on Shana's point of view so they wouldn't spoil you Shiro or that Maid past.

They literally forced you to read the novel if you want to know more...
Aug 25, 2020 11:26 PM

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Nice to know more about what happened in the past. Looks like Shana's predecessor and the guze no tomogara that was Shiro were in love but they had to fight because of conflicting goals. Too bad it wasn't elaborate enough. The relationship between Wilhelmina and Shiro wasn't clear. We may get more about this eventually in the future episodes.
Feb 8, 2022 5:05 PM
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I'm glad they didn't change the OP. I really love this song. It keeps on playing on my head too.

Hmm, I wonder why it took them centuries to find a replacement for Alastor? What happened to the previous flame?

Such a waste for that floating island to be destroyed.

I wonder what happened to Wilhelmina after that.
Aug 15, 2023 7:49 AM
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buen flashback para explicar porque le gusta el pan de melon
Oct 22, 2023 4:16 PM
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Like the history and that, but its like Why now? We need more of the current story.

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