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| THIS IS A MANGA ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS ANYTHING BEYOND THIS CHAPTER. ---------------------------------------- Holy fuck! Way to drop a bombshell! Masako finally did some good and I can now see her in a new light. I think I can almost see the ending! |
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| Biggest bomb in the Anime so far !!!! i mean WTF? they can get married if they like now so i mean why not.. |
Hey,Nana, do you remember our first encounter? nee 、 nana ha 、 watashi tachi no saisho no deai oboe te？ ちょっと、ナナ、最初の出会いを覚えてますか? |
| HAHA EPIC BOMB!! didn't expect this really but i hope the ending is <3 |
| what is this i don't even--- I mean...Christ. I can't believe I'm saying this, but I think I preferred this when the possibility of this relationship was more controversial (and even then, it still is) with the incest aspect. At least that idea alone didn't sound as much of an ass pull as what the author just put out just now. The "Not Blood-Related" card when we are two chapters away from the end? Seriously? And worse yet, there was not even a hint of him discovering this information when he first found the will; not one. |
Bakazuki said: Was there really any need to hint at it though? The problem way back then was that nobody wanted to take Rin in, when she was the labeled the illegitimate of the grandpa. If everyone knew her origin at the meeting for Rin's fate, there really wouldn't have been a discussion at all. Daikichi sacrificed a lot to protect the memories that she had of her supposed dad because that was all that she had at the time.And worse yet, there was not even a hint of him discovering this information when he first found the will; not one. If we knew all along that Daikichi knew that grandpa was not the father then we would all just be waiting until Rin would find out, so choose your poison. |
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| Lame. Let's make them not blood related so it's ok for them to end up together... That shouldn't matter. Daikichi raised her as a daughter all this time. Knowing that shouldn't change anything. An even more so when he knew that all along. This was the last in a series of terrible choices the author made after part 1. |
| hm interesting... I wonder if the author had such an ending in mind right from the start of this manga. Since it feels really out of place and random, my guess is she didn't. |
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| I dunno. I think this ending had potential right from the get go. For one, Rin has blonde hair. Her mother and no on on Daikichi's side of the family had, of course it's not a normal Japanese hair color either. I was always skeptical of her parentage. Secondly, the way they lived was almost never like a father and daughter but more like a married couple. It was like they took care of each other. Rin was always looking out for him, making him meals and whatnot. It almost never looked like he treated her as a daughter, but as an equal. |
“Critics who treat 'adult' as a term of approval, instead of as a merely descriptive term, cannot be adult themselves. To be concerned about being grown up, to admire the grown up because it is grown up, to blush at the suspicion of being childish; these things are the marks of childhood and adolescence...” |
| FUCK! A CAN'T ACCEPT THIS!! Why? It's illogical Yumi Umita! You're contradicting yourself! Anyone can see with your eyes capter 10. Rin REALLY IS son os Masako. It's written there, all words. I very, very disappointing with the series. |
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| It's not like I wasn't expecting this. It seemed pretty obvious from the beginning that the grandfather just wanted to help Masako, to avoid sullying her reputation and so her kid wouldn't grow up without a father. However, that hardly matters at this point. Daikichi is Rin's FATHER! Why are we even discussing this? Daikichi being blood related or not is irrelevant! The author is just making an (poor) excuse to present a romantic relationship between those two, a relationship that wasn't plausible until now. And it's not the fact that they're not blood related that will make it OK. |
Arcanus said: The author is just making an (poor) excuse to present a romantic relationship between those two, a relationship that wasn't plausible until now. And it's not the fact that they're not blood related that will make it OK. I find it perfectly ok, she just explain the past of Rin and the truth behind it, matter or not i find a usefull info for the plot. Remember that this manga is a josei, a manga for women that like these sort of romantic and extravagant relationship (like a soup opera), if fit perfect the genre with an ending like this. She do a great job plot-wise in these last chapters. |
Fn76Jul 17, 2011 9:50 AM
| Being a josei manga is not an excuse to just do something that's completely against what she built during the series just o have an "extravagant" ending. |
| Ok so even if they're not blood related, what will it change ? Daikichi is still Rin's father, not biologically but he raised her so he is. I won't accept a DaikichixRin ending, it just feels so wrong. Usagi Drop taught me about family values, I don't understand why it went this way. |
| Say WHAT?! I should have seen it coming but didn't another bomb was dropped, but still I think it would be wrong if the two became more than father and daughter. |
| Yeaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah - this feels rushed all of the sudden. What I just posted in the last chapter topic is pretty irrelevant now. "Ohhh - Rin is in love with her guardian now?!" "Wait - aren't they blood related? And, isn't Daikichi her father figure?" "NOPE!" Trolld'. ..ugh. Glad I gave this series an 8 now, which I did back when Rin loving Daikichi got exposed. But, right now, I don't know what to say. Can't wait to see what they do with the Anime when they get to this part, though. @MaxCrazy7: Yeah, I'm still rooting for a non-RinXDaikichi ending myself. But, with only 2 chapters left, it's the only ending that's possible now. Crap - well, might as well stick it out since only 2 chapters to go. |
sillyker0nianJul 17, 2011 5:56 PM
sillyker0nian said: There's only 11 eps. A good thing, as we won't have to see her teenage years.Yeaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah - this feels rushed all of the sudden. What I just posted in the last chapter topic is pretty irrelevant now. "Ohhh - Rin is in love with her guardian now?!" "Wait - aren't they blood related? And, isn't Daikichi her father figure?" "NOPE!" Trolld'. ..ugh. Glad I gave this series an 8 now, which I did back when Rin loving Daikichi got exposed. But, right now, I don't know what to say. Can't wait to see what they do with the Anime when they get to this part, though. |
notsureifsrs said: There's only 11 eps. A good thing, as we won't have to see her teenage years. Oh, that's right! Well, yeah, that's a great thing then. At least the Anime will stay the same as the first part then. Being cute and Daikichi and Rin being father and daughter and all =3 *wipes forehead* Have that to look forward to~ |
m4rc0 said: Being a josei manga is not an excuse to just do something that's completely against what she built during the series just o have an "extravagant" ending. I did not realize the relationship between "josei" and "extravagant". |
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| Neither did I, Panina. In fact, calling Josei a genre is just wrong. Josei is a target audience. |
| The problem, HawthorneKitty, is that you're not describing the possibility of this revelation being hinted to us; you're describing the possibility of the revelation being told to us right from the start. All I would have liked were somethings like visual cues, some very subtle foreshadowing, that would have told us that not everything was as it seemed. It's a necessary kind of thing for any story that prevents us from tearing our hairs out due to things that seem like a 180-degree turn, unless one likes being sniped near the ending stretch by plot twists on par with M. Night Shyamalan. And people use the intended demographics as an excuse for many controversial/hackneyed/whatever elements in mangas' plots. Stop that shit. DX |
| Jesus, you people are so bitter and frothing with rage. I feel like I'm on the WoW forums or something. |
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Bakazuki said: The problem, HawthorneKitty, is that you're not describing the possibility of this revelation being hinted to us; you're describing the possibility of the revelation being told to us right from the start. All I would have liked were somethings like visual cues, some very subtle foreshadowing, that would have told us that not everything was as it seemed. It's a necessary kind of thing for any story that prevents us from tearing our hairs out due to things that seem like a 180-degree turn, unless one likes being sniped near the ending stretch by plot twists on par with M. Night Shyamalan. And people use the intended demographics as an excuse for many controversial/hackneyed/whatever elements in mangas' plots. Stop that shit. DX Exactly! Some clues about this sudden pairing happening would have been tasteful/better than what has happened. I would have probably enjoyed it if there was some foreshadowing. But, for my personally, it's like: Daikichi takes Rin in --> They live together, meet Kouki and his Mom, Daikichi slowly learns how to be a proper father, Daikichi proposes to Kouki's mom&gets rejected, all kinds of shoujo fluff, etc --> 19-year-time-skip --> Rin is all of the sudden stubborn, rejects Kouki, etc --> Rin confesses she LOVES Daikichi. Soooo - it's so rushed and there was no indication of it happening. So, it feels awkward and such. Ugh... |
Bakazuki said: The problem, HawthorneKitty, is that you're not describing the possibility of this revelation being hinted to us; you're describing the possibility of the revelation being told to us right from the start. All I would have liked were somethings like visual cues, some very subtle foreshadowing, that would have told us that not everything was as it seemed. It's a necessary kind of thing for any story that prevents us from tearing our hairs out due to things that seem like a 180-degree turn, unless one likes being sniped near the ending stretch by plot twists on par with M. Night Shyamalan. And people use the intended demographics as an excuse for many controversial/hackneyed/whatever elements in mangas' plots. Stop that shit. DX QFT. |
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m4rc0 said: Yup. He put his freaking heart and soul into raising her alone. Everything about them getting together after that is just creepy. It makes me look back to the first arc in pain.Lame. Let's make them not blood related so it's ok for them to end up together... That shouldn't matter. Daikichi raised her as a daughter all this time. Knowing that shouldn't change anything. An even more so when he knew that all along. This was the last in a series of terrible choices the author made after part 1. |
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Mezzoflation said: Jesus, you people are so bitter and frothing with rage. I feel like I'm on the WoW forums or something. I'd like to think that we're at least not as bad as OneManga's KNIM sub-forum. =P And another thing that bothers me is that we were with him when he first found the will when we were following along with his thoughts. You'd think something as important as that would be brought to attention in his internal monologue and initial reading of the will . When that first popped up, I actually went back to that particular chapter and reread it thinking I missed something. |
VanceFiniraldiJul 19, 2011 6:52 PM
sillyker0nian said: Daikichi takes Rin in --> They live together, meet Kouki and his Mom, Daikichi slowly learns how to be a proper father, Daikichi proposes to Kouki's mom&gets rejected, all kinds of shoujo fluff, etc --> 19-year-time-skip --> Rin is all of the sudden stubborn, rejects Kouki, etc --> Rin confesses she LOVES Daikichi. True. Not to mention the obvious flaws in the development. Kouki's Mom is shown to feel something for Daikichi, but she rejects him because of Kouki. Then, after Kouki is normal again, she rejects him for no reason and thinks: I'm probably not made to live with another person. Then she goes and marries another guy... That makes no sense at all. Same thing with Rin and Kouki. Rin cared for him enough to become angry because she smelled another girl's scent in his bag... Not wanting to stay with Kouki while he still was "wild" would be ok, but she decided to give up on him just when he went straight... The time-skip itself was already a big problem. We went from a awesome manga about a single guy struggling to raise a girl to one about a high school girl's love problems... And a mediocre one... |
| Does no one else wonder who Rin's biological father really is? |
meri_nicole said: Does no one else wonder who Rin's biological father really is? The Holy Spirit. |
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| Darth Vader. It's another thing the author decided not to show in the manga. |
| Well, this certainly makes sense. Daikichi's grandpa was too old to have children, anyway. The only bad thing about this is that now Rin has open path to end up with Daikichi. :( They always seemed to me like father and daughter. Until she started developing more serious feelings for him, that is. |
| Yeah, I didn't like this twist at all. Still have no idea how Daikichi figured it out from reading his grandpa's will. |
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