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Do you think AI should be used anywhere in the process of making anime? As far as it advances human creativity, I have no issues. Used without substantial modification, AI-generated anime frames will look bad. |
| My god that PV looks so lifeless. You can see the fuzz man… The story and world seems interesting so at least care was given there. This should have just stayed as a personal fun project and not a commercialised series. Imagine if this does well and more studios begin using AI… Ai should stay to autonomous tasks and assistance. It should be no where near entertainment where the human mind, creativity and abilities are the main selling points for them. I’ve been waiting for Igoma Yurie to get more roles, but this ain’t it chief |
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niconiconii27 said: I personally really hope that this anime does not make a single dime because I do not want to see these generated pixels without any human creativity become the standard for "art", but what is your general opinion? I second that The trailer was utter shite, TF were those legs sticking out of the trash like it's some giant Barbie doll?? I swear Ex-Arm has more expressive animation and direction than this |
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Reply to Dante012
Define "human creativity" and explain why you think it's not there.
The problem here is clearly the lack of consistent technology and not the creativity behind it.
AI has been used commercially and yes, it's way too soon. I'll argue it was the same about 3D. Started appearing in movies during the 80's, when the tech was very clearly not there. We who grew up with 3D movies didn't care anyway.
Let's all praise good shows and bash bad shows. Regardless of how it was created.
The problem here is clearly the lack of consistent technology and not the creativity behind it.
AI has been used commercially and yes, it's way too soon. I'll argue it was the same about 3D. Started appearing in movies during the 80's, when the tech was very clearly not there. We who grew up with 3D movies didn't care anyway.
Let's all praise good shows and bash bad shows. Regardless of how it was created.
| @Dante012 The difference is that 3D is just a tool, the same way 2D is. It does not act as a replacement, it still takes time, creativity and skill to pull off, and has it's own strengths and weakneses separated from 2D animation. On the other hand, AI does not create anything. It exists and thrives from stealing that which already exists, taking from artists and distorting their work. For as much empty promises companies and producers will make about efficient it is, the truth is that they think about using it from the angle of doing things cheaper and faster more than anything else. |
Reply to Dante012
@DigiCat That analogy makes no sense, buddy. You said "3D is just a tool", implying that AI is not, to which I replied, "AI is a tool as well, since there are still humans behind it." This wasn't about creativity here, this was about your hypocrisy.
You said you're not against 3D because it still requires skills.
Well how about you go and fine-tune an AI? According to you that requires no skill, so you should be able to make one? Finger in the nose, right?
Have fun figuring out how to tame Python, how to build a good database, how every parameter affects the AI training, ...
Neural Networks are litteral engineering. Saying AI users have no skills, is like saying engineers have no skills. That would be dumb, right?
Finally, about creativity : whatever it is, this comes from the human mind, not the tools it uses.
Drawing a circle is not creative even though it's 2D.
Making a 3D cube in Blender is not creative even though it's 3D.
Similarly, whatever you do with AI can be uninspired or very creative. That's only up to you and the amount of work/time you pour into the product.
You said you're not against 3D because it still requires skills.
Well how about you go and fine-tune an AI? According to you that requires no skill, so you should be able to make one? Finger in the nose, right?
Have fun figuring out how to tame Python, how to build a good database, how every parameter affects the AI training, ...
Neural Networks are litteral engineering. Saying AI users have no skills, is like saying engineers have no skills. That would be dumb, right?
Finally, about creativity : whatever it is, this comes from the human mind, not the tools it uses.
Drawing a circle is not creative even though it's 2D.
Making a 3D cube in Blender is not creative even though it's 3D.
Similarly, whatever you do with AI can be uninspired or very creative. That's only up to you and the amount of work/time you pour into the product.
| @Dante012 Dante012 said: You said "3D is just a tool" I said that? You better learn to check who you're replying to before throwing around assumptions, you're on a public forum not your private DMs And regardless of who said it, no it's not hypocritical, because the way AI is being used in "art" today is not as a tool but as a replacement, and it looks like utter shit Even tools can look like shit It's the reason why 3D, a tool, can suck in Ex-Arm but look incredible in Land Of The Lustrous The same with AI when it's being used as a tool, it can do wonders, and it has been doing so in animation since the early 2000s Since the birth of this guy  Or did you think each stran of fur was animated one by one by imputting the same program 2million times over? But as the saying goes, too much of a good thing can turn bad, that is what will happen if AI is overused I'll also add that the AI programme made all those years ago to aid in the animation of Monsters Inc did not steal, everything that went into it was made by Pixar themselves, unlike generative AI which steals artstyles from artwork posted on the internet without the artists concent |
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