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She didn't invent the Dragon Radar lol; Pilaf had his own and he eventually perfected his to have live video feed via his satellite, a feat Bulma couldn't replicate. We even see in DBS that Pilaf is smarter than Bulma as he realized the Time Machine could jump to other timelines by changing its frequency


Gokuu would have left the mountains without her; Pilaf would have come for his Dragon Ball and either he steals it or tricks Gokuu into helping him. Then Pilaf becomes his friend just like Bulma, Oolong, Ox King, Yumcha, Pu'er, Tenshinhan, Vegeeta, Piccolo, Seventeen, Eighteen, Boo, etc did. He becomes his ally in DBS anyway


Burdack already wished for Gokuu to be immortal for all of his childhood with the Cerealian Dragon Balls, so he never dies as long as he's a kid


She didn't pilot the ship to Namekku; it was on autopilot the whole time. She spends the whole arc hiding in a cave and never needed to come to Namekku


She didn't "soften" Vegeeta at all; Vegeeta started becoming soft as a result of Freeza crushing his dreams and killing him. Vegeeta didn't give a shit about Bulma as he was gonna let her and baby Trunks be killed by Gero. Ultimately, it was Future Trunks who truly softened Vegeeta.


She wasn't even needed for Trunks to be born because Vegeeta could have just knocked up her mom if he felt like it


Making a Time Machine fucked over the spacetime continuum and violated divine law. And it eventually led to Zamasu killing everyone on Earth and Zeno erasing the multiverse


More importantly, though, doing one thing at the start of the story doesn't make you important for all of it. She pulls Gokuu out of the mountains and gets the adventure started, but when the adventure starts, she doesn't do shit.

Being used for half-assed plot devices that the story swipes off-screen doesn't make you important, either. The Dragon Radar and Time Machine are just nonsensical plot devices that Toriyama pulled out of his ass. The Time Machine doesn't even make one lick of sense (neither did the entirety of the Android/Cell arc).


The plot in Dragon Ball is bullshit to begin with. It's a fighting series and all that matters is the fighting as that's the only thing the series actually focuses on and is what makes the series popular.


Gokuu, Gohan, Vegeeta, Trunks, Piccolo, Broly, Freeza, etc are the "important" characters because they're the ones who do all the cool flashy shit that Dragon Ball is known for. Bulma doesn't fight, so she's unimportant.

Nothing Bulma does is ever a point of focus in the series. Most of the time whenever she's on screen, she's just used for misogynist, perverted gags. This is a god awful depiction of a woman. There are fairly well written female characters in anime/manga/fiction in general and Bulma isn't one of them

Facts. Could go on but I'm just keeping this short and sweet.
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I ain't reading all that, dawg.
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Bro, she is there because the original light novel had her as protagonist. And if you take a character out and place another character at their place for the things they did, well...
And she did the most important flashes.
Now can you praise the real MVPs, Purple Ninja and General Blue?
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I ain't reading all that, dawg.
@Brans94 tl;dr

she didnt invent the dragon radar, pilaf did
gokuu leaves the mountains without her
burdack wished for gokuu to be immortal as a kid
she didn't pilot the ship to namekku; it was on autopilot
she didn't soften vegeeta; future trunks did. vegeeta didn't give af about bulma before he got to know trunks
vegeeta could have just knocked up bulma's mom for trunks to be born
making a time machine screwed up over the spacetime continuum and led to the multiverse being destroyed
doing one thing at the start of the story doesn't make you important for all of it. otherwise mizuki is the most important character of naruto lol nope
all bulma is used for is nonsensical plot devices and perverted fan service, she's not important
the plot in dragon ball is bullshit, only thing that matters is the fighting
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I'm still not reading all that, dawg.
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I'm still not reading all that, dawg.
@Brans94 okay how about this

she's a totally worthless character and her only purpose is to be fan service for perverts.

that good enough for you?
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Sorry. I can't read.
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concession accepted
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AlphaMaleScotty said:
She didn't invent the Dragon Radar lol; Pilaf had his own and he eventually perfected his to have live video feed via his satellite, a feat Bulma couldn't replicate. We even see in DBS that Pilaf is smarter than Bulma as he realized the Time Machine could jump to other timelines by changing its frequency


Gokuu would have left the mountains without her; Pilaf would have come for his Dragon Ball and either he steals it or tricks Gokuu into helping him. Then Pilaf becomes his friend just like Bulma, Oolong, Ox King, Yumcha, Pu'er, Tenshinhan, Vegeeta, Piccolo, Seventeen, Eighteen, Boo, etc did. He becomes his ally in DBS anyway


Burdack already wished for Gokuu to be immortal for all of his childhood with the Cerealian Dragon Balls, so he never dies as long as he's a kid


She didn't pilot the ship to Namekku; it was on autopilot the whole time. She spends the whole arc hiding in a cave and never needed to come to Namekku


She didn't "soften" Vegeeta at all; Vegeeta started becoming soft as a result of Freeza crushing his dreams and killing him. Vegeeta didn't give a shit about Bulma as he was gonna let her and baby Trunks be killed by Gero. Ultimately, it was Future Trunks who truly softened Vegeeta.


She wasn't even needed for Trunks to be born because Vegeeta could have just knocked up her mom if he felt like it


Making a Time Machine fucked over the spacetime continuum and violated divine law. And it eventually led to Zamasu killing everyone on Earth and Zeno erasing the multiverse


More importantly, though, doing one thing at the start of the story doesn't make you important for all of it.

Being used for half-assed plot devices that the story sweeps off-screen doesn't make you important, either. The Time Machine is just a nonsensical plot device that Toriyama pulled out of his ass and doesn't make any sense.


The plot in Dragon Ball is bullshit to begin with. It's a fighting series and all that matters is the fighting as that's the only thing the series actually focuses on and is what makes the series popular.


Gokuu, Gohan, Vegeeta, Trunks, Piccolo, Broly, Freeza, etc are the "important" characters because they're the ones who do all the cool flashy shit that Dragon Ball is known for. Bulma doesn't fight, so she's unimportant.

Nothing Bulma does is ever a point of focus in the series. Most of the time whenever she's on screen, she's just used for misogynist, perverted gags. This is a god awful depiction of a woman. There are fairly well written female characters in anime/manga/fiction in general and Bulma isn't one of them

Facts. Could go on but I'm just keeping this short and sweet.

She's one of the main characters, so she is essential. As per your other statement, well, that are yout assumptions, like would have left the mountains alone, you don't know. And that back reading of Bardock? If you're talking seriously then you don't know how to interpret a story.
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AlphaMaleScotty said:
She didn't invent the Dragon Radar lol;
No need to read the rest of this bait when the fact that Bulma had an accurate dragon radar is what moved the plot along. Who cares about its origins?
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The point of Bulma is not only to get Goku to go on the quest but also to give the audience a point of reference outside of martial arts and aliens

Yeah other characters could do that but I think it'd be less of a comedy that way
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Can't tell if it's a troll with no life or just really that stupid who wasted his time to write this long bait text.
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AlphaMaleScotty said:
She didn't invent the Dragon Radar lol; Pilaf had his own and he eventually perfected his to have live video feed via his satellite, a feat Bulma couldn't replicate. We even see in DBS that Pilaf is smarter than Bulma as he realized the Time Machine could jump to other timelines by changing its frequency


Gokuu would have left the mountains without her; Pilaf would have come for his Dragon Ball and either he steals it or tricks Gokuu into helping him. Then Pilaf becomes his friend just like Bulma, Oolong, Ox King, Yumcha, Pu'er, Tenshinhan, Vegeeta, Piccolo, Seventeen, Eighteen, Boo, etc did. He becomes his ally in DBS anyway


Burdack already wished for Gokuu to be immortal for all of his childhood with the Cerealian Dragon Balls, so he never dies as long as he's a kid


She didn't pilot the ship to Namekku; it was on autopilot the whole time. She spends the whole arc hiding in a cave and never needed to come to Namekku


She didn't "soften" Vegeeta at all; Vegeeta started becoming soft as a result of Freeza crushing his dreams and killing him. Vegeeta didn't give a shit about Bulma as he was gonna let her and baby Trunks be killed by Gero. Ultimately, it was Future Trunks who truly softened Vegeeta.


She wasn't even needed for Trunks to be born because Vegeeta could have just knocked up her mom if he felt like it


Making a Time Machine fucked over the spacetime continuum and violated divine law. And it eventually led to Zamasu killing everyone on Earth and Zeno erasing the multiverse


More importantly, though, doing one thing at the start of the story doesn't make you important for all of it.

Being used for half-assed plot devices that the story sweeps off-screen doesn't make you important, either. The Time Machine is just a nonsensical plot device that Toriyama pulled out of his ass and doesn't make any sense.


The plot in Dragon Ball is bullshit to begin with. It's a fighting series and all that matters is the fighting as that's the only thing the series actually focuses on and is what makes the series popular.


Gokuu, Gohan, Vegeeta, Trunks, Piccolo, Broly, Freeza, etc are the "important" characters because they're the ones who do all the cool flashy shit that Dragon Ball is known for. Bulma doesn't fight, so she's unimportant.

Nothing Bulma does is ever a point of focus in the series. Most of the time whenever she's on screen, she's just used for misogynist, perverted gags. This is a god awful depiction of a woman. There are fairly well written female characters in anime/manga/fiction in general and Bulma isn't one of them

Facts. Could go on but I'm just keeping this short and sweet.

She's one of the main characters, so she is essential. As per your other statement, well, that are yout assumptions, like would have left the mountains alone, you don't know. And that back reading of Bardock? If you're talking seriously then you don't know how to interpret a story.
@Irshiki She's not one of the main characters. The protagonist is Gokuu. Bulma is just part of the supporting cast.

The rest aren't my assumptions and yes, Burdack did wish for Gokuu to be immortal as a kid; not my fault if you didn't read Dragon Ball Super.

@Dumb Pilaf had a radar too and his was accurate enough as he already had a Dragon Ball when he debuts. He later improves his radar to be a satellite radar with live video feed, a feat Bulma couldn't replicate. Pilaf's canonically smarter than Bulma, she's worthless.
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@Irshiki She's not one of the main characters. The protagonist is Gokuu. Bulma is just part of the supporting cast.

The rest aren't my assumptions and yes, Burdack did wish for Gokuu to be immortal as a kid; not my fault if you didn't read Dragon Ball Super.

@Dumb Pilaf had a radar too and his was accurate enough as he already had a Dragon Ball when he debuts. He later improves his radar to be a satellite radar with live video feed, a feat Bulma couldn't replicate. Pilaf's canonically smarter than Bulma, she's worthless.

I did read Dragon Ball Super, it is wrong to make try to read a story basing what is told on what another story tell, another story which is written decades later after the one you're talking about. Do you think it was planned that Bardock did made that wish when Goku started his journey?
Second, but not less important, if you read the Dragon Ball Super comic and you think it is in continuity with Dragon Ball Super animated series, which is the main project of Dragon Ball Super arc, and then you think that it also is in continuity with the original Dragon Ball comic it is either you didn't understand what Dragon Ball Super comic is or you didn't read Dragon Ball.
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@Irshiki She's not one of the main characters. The protagonist is Gokuu. Bulma is just part of the supporting cast.

The rest aren't my assumptions and yes, Burdack did wish for Gokuu to be immortal as a kid; not my fault if you didn't read Dragon Ball Super.

@Dumb Pilaf had a radar too and his was accurate enough as he already had a Dragon Ball when he debuts. He later improves his radar to be a satellite radar with live video feed, a feat Bulma couldn't replicate. Pilaf's canonically smarter than Bulma, she's worthless.

I did read Dragon Ball Super, it is wrong to make try to read a story basing what is told on what another story tell, another story which is written decades later after the one you're talking about. Do you think it was planned that Bardock did made that wish when Goku started his journey?
Second, but not less important, if you read the Dragon Ball Super comic and you think it is in continuity with Dragon Ball Super animated series, which is the main project of Dragon Ball Super arc, and then you think that it also is in continuity with the original Dragon Ball comic it is either you didn't understand what Dragon Ball Super comic is or you didn't read Dragon Ball.
@Irshiki DBS is part of the same story and is canon LOL. More so DBS's comic as it was supervised by Toriyama. The anime was written by a bunch of random writers and is all over the place.

If we're going to discuss what would happen in the plot if not for Bulma, then we look at the whole thing, including stuff that was only revealed much later. Otherwise there's no point in discussing the story from an in-universe perspective at all; can't pick and choose which events matter and which events don't.

As the Burdack retcon shows, the plot in Dragon Ball is bullshit. Nothing is set in stone; shit gets retconned all the time because everything only happens at the author's whim. There are plenty of asspulls, inconsistencies, and shit that doesn't make any sense. To argue this or that wouldn't happen because of Bulma is pointless; things only happen if the author wants them to, so it's all arbitrary.

At the end of the day, only the fighting matters as the series only focuses on that and that's the only thing people care about seeing. Bulma doesn't fight so she's useless.
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@Irshiki DBS is part of the same story and is canon LOL. More so DBS's comic as it was supervised by Toriyama. The anime was written by a bunch of random writers and is all over the place.

If we're going to discuss what would happen in the plot if not for Bulma, then we look at the whole thing, including stuff that was only revealed much later. Otherwise there's no point in discussing the story from an in-universe perspective at all; can't pick and choose which events matter and which events don't.

As the Burdack retcon shows, the plot in Dragon Ball is bullshit. Nothing is set in stone; shit gets retconned all the time because everything only happens at the author's whim. There are plenty of asspulls, inconsistencies, and shit that doesn't make any sense. To argue this or that wouldn't happen because of Bulma is pointless; things only happen if the author wants them to, so it's all arbitrary.

At the end of the day, only the fighting matters as the series only focuses on that and that's the only thing people care about seeing. Bulma doesn't fight so she's useless.

Wow, then it was both, you didn't understand what Dragon Ball Super was and you didn't read Dragon Ball either.
Dragon Ball it's not a series of fighting battles, it's a comical series which focus on adventures and battles. But of course only someone who never read Dragon Ball or doesn't know who was Akira Toriyama wouldn't know.
Dragon Ball Super comic, just to make you understand how important it is, got published on V Jump, which a magazine about videogames, and to make more understadable how funny it is, it's so "canon" that it is published on a videogames magazine and not one of the characters of the comic appears in a videogame.
Super animated series was the main project, its developement started way before the comic one.
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@Irshiki DBS is part of the same story and is canon LOL. More so DBS's comic as it was supervised by Toriyama. The anime was written by a bunch of random writers and is all over the place.

If we're going to discuss what would happen in the plot if not for Bulma, then we look at the whole thing, including stuff that was only revealed much later. Otherwise there's no point in discussing the story from an in-universe perspective at all; can't pick and choose which events matter and which events don't.

As the Burdack retcon shows, the plot in Dragon Ball is bullshit. Nothing is set in stone; shit gets retconned all the time because everything only happens at the author's whim. There are plenty of asspulls, inconsistencies, and shit that doesn't make any sense. To argue this or that wouldn't happen because of Bulma is pointless; things only happen if the author wants them to, so it's all arbitrary.

At the end of the day, only the fighting matters as the series only focuses on that and that's the only thing people care about seeing. Bulma doesn't fight so she's useless.

Wow, then it was both, you didn't understand what Dragon Ball Super was and you didn't read Dragon Ball either.
Dragon Ball it's not a series of fighting battles, it's a comical series which focus on adventures and battles. But of course only someone who never read Dragon Ball or doesn't know who was Akira Toriyama wouldn't know.
Dragon Ball Super comic, just to make you understand how important it is, got published on V Jump, which a magazine about videogames, and to make more understadable how funny it is, it's so "canon" that it is published on a videogames magazine and not one of the characters of the comic appears in a videogame.
Super animated series was the main project, its developement started way before the comic one.
@Irshiki Dragon Ball is a fighting series LOL. It started off as a shitty parody of Journey to the West; nobody gave a fuck about it and it was unpopular, so Toriyama made it about fighting. From there, it became popular. It's funny because Toriyama determined that the best way to make the series popular was to bench non-combatants like Bulma and put more of the focus on Gokuu.

Bulma has more screentime in the Pilaf arc = the series is unpopular.
Bulma is almost absent from the Jackie Chun arc = the series becomes popular.

So, no one cares about her. Even funnier, the majority of American fans skipped the original Dragon Ball as Funimation dropped it in favor of DBZ, which began airing in 1996. Despite the fact this left viewers with a much smaller understanding of the plot and lore, DBZ was still a huge hit, unlike DB's 1995 dub, which was a flop. Bulma is supposedly such an important character for pulling Gokuu out of the mountains, yet most viewers didn't even see that part of the series.

And no, the DBS anime isn't canon. Toriyama was actively involved in the making of the manga.
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anime is not essential too its just entertainment first

so bulma is good entertainment for being comedic and sexual fanservice
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anime is not essential too its just entertainment first

so bulma is good entertainment for being comedic and sexual fanservice
@deg How can she be "good entertainment"? The Pilaf arc was full of sexual fan-service and gags with Bulma, but it wasn't popular. Bulma had barely any screentime in the Jackie Chun arc and the series became popular.

So by your logic she fails as good entertainment LOL
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@Irshiki Dragon Ball is a fighting series LOL. It started off as a shitty parody of Journey to the West; nobody gave a fuck about it and it was unpopular, so Toriyama made it about fighting. From there, it became popular. It's funny because Toriyama determined that the best way to make the series popular was to bench non-combatants like Bulma and put more of the focus on Gokuu.

Bulma has more screentime in the Pilaf arc = the series is unpopular.
Bulma is almost absent from the Jackie Chun arc = the series becomes popular.

So, no one cares about her. Even funnier, the majority of American fans skipped the original Dragon Ball as Funimation dropped it in favor of DBZ, which began airing in 1996. Despite the fact this left viewers with a much smaller understanding of the plot and lore, DBZ was still a huge hit, unlike DB's 1995 dub, which was a flop. Bulma is supposedly such an important character for pulling Gokuu out of the mountains, yet most viewers didn't even see that part of the series.

And no, the DBS anime isn't canon. Toriyama was actively involved in the making of the manga.

By someone whose nickname contain Alpha and Male I shouldn't expect nothing less than someone who continuously try to reiterate that a woman is useless and it's pointless to have her on-scren.
Plus, the fact that you comment the very first arc of Dragon Ball as "a shitty parody" makes me understand deeply that you didn't understood that it is a comical series even if you tried to read it.
Zero comprehension of what you read, zero comprehension of Dragon Ball and Zero comprehension of who was Akira Toriyama. Everything you said is pointless.
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@Irshiki Dragon Ball is a fighting series LOL. It started off as a shitty parody of Journey to the West; nobody gave a fuck about it and it was unpopular, so Toriyama made it about fighting. From there, it became popular. It's funny because Toriyama determined that the best way to make the series popular was to bench non-combatants like Bulma and put more of the focus on Gokuu.

Bulma has more screentime in the Pilaf arc = the series is unpopular.
Bulma is almost absent from the Jackie Chun arc = the series becomes popular.

So, no one cares about her. Even funnier, the majority of American fans skipped the original Dragon Ball as Funimation dropped it in favor of DBZ, which began airing in 1996. Despite the fact this left viewers with a much smaller understanding of the plot and lore, DBZ was still a huge hit, unlike DB's 1995 dub, which was a flop. Bulma is supposedly such an important character for pulling Gokuu out of the mountains, yet most viewers didn't even see that part of the series.

And no, the DBS anime isn't canon. Toriyama was actively involved in the making of the manga.

By someone whose nickname contain Alpha and Male I shouldn't expect nothing less than someone who continuously try to reiterate that a woman is useless and it's pointless to have her on-scren.
Plus, the fact that you comment the very first arc of Dragon Ball as "a shitty parody" makes me understand deeply that you didn't understood that it is a comical series even if you tried to read it.
Zero comprehension of what you read, zero comprehension of Dragon Ball and Zero comprehension of who was Akira Toriyama. Everything you said is pointless.
@Irshiki Ironic you're trying to insinuate that I'm sexist when Toriyama was the one who drew Bulma getting sexually harassed and assaulted repeatedly, even when she was a minor. Even drew her bare ass and breasts multiple times when she was only 16. Oh, yeah, and Toriyama also drew a comic where a woman turns to prostitution after repeatedly getting raped. He also said he wanted to spy on his daughter bathing as an old man.

I understand who Toriyama was completely. He was a degenerate pervert.
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@Irshiki Ironic you're trying to insinuate that I'm sexist when Toriyama was the one who drew Bulma getting sexually harassed and assaulted repeatedly, even when she was a minor. Even drew her bare ass and breasts multiple times when she was only 16. Oh, yeah, and Toriyama also drew a comic where a woman turns to prostitution after repeatedly getting raped. He also said he wanted to spy on his daughter bathing as an old man.

I understand who Toriyama was completely. He was a degenerate pervert.

They are comics, not an amateur movie, it is art, he didn't forced no one to abuse.
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And he was still a degenerate pervert.

If you think drawing women and underage girls being sexually harassed, assaulted, and even raped repeatedly for laughs makes for good "art", then I don't know what to tell you.
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Don't even continue to respond to this guy. He's clearly a lame troll with nothing better to do with his life.
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love how triggered toriyama fanboys get when i point out he was a degenerate pervert

@Brans94 you probably got like 1 tb of hentai on your computer
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She literally starts Goku’s journey. She takes everyone to Namek. She has Trunks for a son and in both timelines makes a huge difference by building the Time Machine. There’s plenty of Dragon Ball characters who lose importance but Bulma still finds something to do throughout the series
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Burma funded everything they ever did and also fixed technology they needed.

Without her Goku would never have gone to Namek.
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She literally starts Goku’s journey. She takes everyone to Namek. She has Trunks for a son and in both timelines makes a huge difference by building the Time Machine. There’s plenty of Dragon Ball characters who lose importance but Bulma still finds something to do throughout the series
@TheWiseChampion Gokuu's journey would have started without her as somebody else would have come for his Dragon Ball.

She didn't take anybody to Namekku; Kami's spaceship was on autopilot and she wasn't needed to come as she herself admitted. Her dad could have fixed (actually, all Bulma did was "slightly tweak" it as she said herself) the spaceship all by himself and the only reason they needed to use it was because she stupidly blew up Nappa's spaceship.

She isn't Trunks and she wasn't even needed to give birth to him as Vegeeta could have knocked up her mom instead.

She ruined the spacetime continuum by making the Time Machine and it led to the multiverse being destroyed.

So everything you said is false lol
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Burma funded everything they ever did and also fixed technology they needed.

Without her Goku would never have gone to Namek.
@StrawHatHarris She didn't fund anything and she didn't fix (or invent) anything important.

And it was her dad who helped Gokuu go to Namekku, not her.
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