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Jan 21, 6:58 AM
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Jesus Christ, Tinasha really has a target on her back this season. Not just by kidnapping but also being shot.

Luckily, she' got allies and supporters by her side. I feel bad for tbh. She can't really live a normal life at all in this timeline due to her status and importance.

Jan 21, 8:21 AM
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For everything they went through together, I really really hope Oscar and Tinasha can find ways to solve everything and stay together forever.
Jan 21, 8:22 AM
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So is nobody gonna talk about these God awful CR subs? They’re not even synced to the ep and missing in some places. I get mistakes happen, everyone’s human even pros. But this happens too often on a service I’m paying 15 bucks a month for lol.

Edit: Ok episode finally up and working. This was another one crammed with a lot of stuff. S/O to Tinasha for instantly sniffing out that Oscar’s new “love interest” was actually an opp. Travis trying to “kill” Tinasha because she got jealous over her was wild. But it looks like he actually helped her heal somehow? I was a bit confused on that and the show is so rushed that it’s hard to parse details. Did that have something to do with what she lost when time travelling?

Anyway that did set up the labyrinth exploration with Oscar and Tinasha which was cute. Wouldn’t be an unnamed memory timeline without Tinasha getting sick and Oscar taking care of her at some point. Cute moment that led to our big reveal! Oscar actually knows he’s the person who saved Tinasha??? Makes sense tbh. He knew Tinasha was looking at him and seeing someone else and the fact she’s so clingy despite “never meeting him” put two and two together and you’d arrive there.

Tinasha wrong for leaving Oscar there at the end just as she was about to pour her heart out πŸ˜‚ left my boy blue balled. I’m just wondering how the prince Tinasha was supposed to be married off to is gonna react now lmao.
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Jan 21, 8:32 AM
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tinasha really went through a lot huh she's been getting targeted all over the place

jealous tinasha was adorable her human side is out there every episode nice touch

also her dress getting dirty on that path lol the scenes are getting intense though

oscar and tinasha deserve some peace hope they solve their issues and make it out strong
Jan 21, 8:57 AM
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the subtitles are messed up.
Jan 21, 9:12 AM
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NO english sub on crunchyroll so I watched it with the french one,pffff


it was a lovely ep, to see how she really cares for him...
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Jan 21, 9:14 AM
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So is nobody gonna talk about these God awful CR subs? They’re not even synced to the ep and missing in some places. I get mistakes happen, everyone’s human even pros. But this happens too often on a service I’m paying 15 bucks a month for lol.

Edit: Ok episode finally up and working. This was another one crammed with a lot of stuff. S/O to Tinasha for instantly sniffing out that Oscar’s new “love interest” was actually an opp. Travis trying to “kill” Tinasha because she got jealous over her was wild. But it looks like he actually helped her heal somehow? I was a bit confused on that and the show is so rushed that it’s hard to parse details. Did that have something to do with what she lost when time travelling?

Anyway that did set up the labyrinth exploration with Oscar and Tinasha which was cute. Wouldn’t be an unnamed memory timeline without Tinasha getting sick and Oscar taking care of her at some point. Cute moment that led to our big reveal! Oscar actually knows he’s the person who saved Tinasha??? Makes sense tbh. He knew Tinasha was looking at him and seeing someone else and the fact she’s so clingy despite “never meeting him” put two and two together and you’d arrive there.

Tinasha wrong for leaving Oscar there at the end just as she was about to pour her heart out πŸ˜‚ left my boy blue balled. I’m just wondering how the prince Tinasha was supposed to be married off to is gonna react now lmao.
@Marinate1016 i just wrote something about the sub

it was impossible for me to watch it like that so I change the language but that it's not serious...
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Jan 21, 9:14 AM
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I can't feel "love" from this anime. It's not worthy of "romance" tag. The story seems great on paper, lovers across 400 years, but the result on screen doesn't match that ambition.
Jan 21, 9:15 AM
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otakuweek said:
NO english sub on crunchyroll so I watched it with the french one,pffff


it was a lovely ep, to see how she really cares for him...

spanish sub are fine too!!!!
Jan 21, 10:33 AM

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I can't feel "love" from this anime. It's not worthy of "romance" tag. The story seems great on paper, lovers across 400 years, but the result on screen doesn't match that ambition.
@phantomfandom The biggest problem with this show, is it feels like it is skipping huge portions of the story. Also, in the first season, she was all like "I'll never love you"...all while completely acting like they are already a couple. Now the roles are kind of reversed.

Either way, it's like each episode sets up its own individual arc, and that arc is resolved with not much at all happening, and the characters not doing much of anything. Like in today's episode the woman who claimed she was resistant to the curse, and he just says "yeah okay, you're my lover now" as if it wasn't blatantly obvious she was there to scam him, and he knew she was there to scam him. 5 Minutes later, she's already revealed who she was scamming him for.
Jan 21, 10:44 AM
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A deceitful mistress named Delilah? I've read that book before. Great Bible reference.
Cutting her name from the story until after she was captured was probably the better choice. If they were to reveal her name from the start then it would've been even more obvious that she was a villain.
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Jan 21, 2:42 PM

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I'm still confused about the apparent baddies (?) Valt and Miralys. In season one it felt like it was foreshadowed they would play a big role, yet in the end they didn't and now it feels the same yet now they're clearly bad guys. I feel like something got omitted in this adaption or the first season... Like, what really is their connection to everything? Or will it get revealed?
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Jan 21, 4:39 PM

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godzilla9637 said:
otakuweek said:
NO english sub on crunchyroll so I watched it with the french one,pffff


it was a lovely ep, to see how she really cares for him...

spanish sub are fine too!!!!

No abla espagnol πŸ™ˆπŸ™ˆπŸ™ˆ
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Jan 21, 4:52 PM
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Once again, a lot of stuff happened, but it feels like a lot of details are being left out.
On a better note, Oscar realizes he used the orb & changed everyone's timelines. Possibly losing everything to save her.
Jan 21, 6:17 PM
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Very good episode, despite bad direction and screenplay!

Tinasha may be no longer a witch, but she surely remains enchanting...

That's the power of love.
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Jan 23, 6:30 AM
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I just can't get behind this show anymore. It's certainly a bold choice plotwise, but when you essentially take away all the character development, as well as memories of any time they ever spent together (because thanks to time line shenanigans they didn't actually spend any time together, only Tinasha did with the other timeline Oscar) from half of the main couple, it's not really the same couple anymore, is it?
And the fact that Oscar's plans are just plain dumb, he constantly thinks he knows better that Tinasha how strong she is, and he constantly hides his plans from her for no apparent reason, which just causes more problems. If they just actually worked together, had any sort of chemistry on screen, everything would be so much better.
But for me this is enough, I'm actually dropping this show. Maybe the light novel is better, fleshed out the characters more, gave more time for the relationship to develop, made Oscar's actions make any actual sense, but maybe not. I ain't reading it either way so that unfortunately has to stay a mystery.
1/5 episode of 5/10 show
Jan 23, 8:00 AM
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Tinasha and Oscar are a great couple together. I can’t believe that fortune teller appeared and Oscar said she is his lover. It isn’t right.

They have to find a solution to sort everything out. Travis’s appearance made everything worse, now Tinasha had some memories about him.
Jan 23, 8:40 PM

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Dang, episode 3 and it's already been 4 months. We're speedrunning this timeline. Any novel readers want to let us know how much they cut this time?

leonardobarba said:
Very good episode, despite bad direction and screenplay!

How you can call this good is baffling. I'd understand the last season but this season and especially this episode? Not only did we bulldoze what seemed to be important plot points but we hardly saw any of them in general and the "character progression" is just people suddenly changing how they feel with no warning, buildup or justification.

Good is not a word I'd use to describe it.

phantomfandom said:
I can't feel "love" from this anime. It's not worthy of "romance" tag. The story seems great on paper, lovers across 400 years, but the result on screen doesn't match that ambition.

Totally agree, it's like they went from slow (fast) burn romance with some charm to flat as the Farsas plains.

HOOfan_1 said:
Either way, it's like each episode sets up its own individual arc, and that arc is resolved with not much at all happening, and the characters not doing much of anything.

This is what makes it so bad imo. If they spent even a little bit of time to actually show the characters reacting, thinking, planning, etc it would be much better. Like Delilah, just add Oscar thinking to himself about having suspicions of her or something. I feel like the story is written in second person here, Oscar knows some of what's going on, Tinasha knows some of what's going on, but we as the audience don't get to see any of it so...what's the point of watching then exactly?

chizzie said:
I just can't get behind this show anymore. It's certainly a bold choice plotwise, but when you essentially take away all the character development, as well as memories of any time they ever spent together (because thanks to time line shenanigans they didn't actually spend any time together, only Tinasha did with the other timeline Oscar) from half of the main couple, it's not really the same couple anymore, is it?
And the fact that Oscar's plans are just plain dumb, he constantly thinks he knows better that Tinasha how strong she is, and he constantly hides his plans from her for no apparent reason, which just causes more problems. If they just actually worked together, had any sort of chemistry on screen, everything would be so much better.
But for me this is enough, I'm actually dropping this show. Maybe the light novel is better, fleshed out the characters more, gave more time for the relationship to develop, made Oscar's actions make any actual sense, but maybe not. I ain't reading it either way so that unfortunately has to stay a mystery.
1/5 episode of 5/10 show

Fair and valid. Pop back in for the discussion of ep12 to see if it got any better

Sheol01 said:
Once again, a lot of stuff happened, but it feels like a lot of details are being left out.
On a better note, Oscar realizes he used the orb & changed everyone's timelines. Possibly losing everything to save her.

The question is will it matter in any way?
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Jan 24, 12:59 AM

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Even if it doesn't skip stuff the show always feels like it does. The whole Travis thing comes out of nowhere and then just goes away without a thought.

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SawronZXZ said:
How you can call this good is baffling. I'd understand the last season but this season and especially this episode? Not only did we bulldoze what seemed to be important plot points but we hardly saw any of them in general and the "character progression" is just people suddenly changing how they feel with no warning, buildup or justification.

Good is not a word I'd use to describe it.


Bear with me:

  • The story is very good, indeed;
  • Oscar and Tinasha form an adorable and loving couple of brutes;
  • Regarding the anime series, which I deem to be a split cour instead of two seasons, its animation, art, character design and music are good and well inside the studio competence;
  • Regarding the white elephant in the room of the anime series, its direction and screenplay are atrocious, bad and heinous, even considering how incompetent the studio may strive to be;
  • Practically, I am watching the anime series because of Oscar and Tinasha and, as such, the episodes are being entertaining and very good. The anime series direction and screenplay makes grasping -- let alone enjoying -- the very good story Hell tough.
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SawronZXZ said:
How you can call this good is baffling. I'd understand the last season but this season and especially this episode? Not only did we bulldoze what seemed to be important plot points but we hardly saw any of them in general and the "character progression" is just people suddenly changing how they feel with no warning, buildup or justification.

Good is not a word I'd use to describe it.


Bear with me:

  • The story is very good, indeed;
  • Oscar and Tinasha form an adorable and loving couple of brutes;
  • Regarding the anime series, which I deem to be a split cour instead of two seasons, its animation, art, character design and music are good and well inside the studio competence;
  • Regarding the white elephant in the room of the anime series, its direction and screenplay are atrocious, bad and heinous, even considering how incompetent the studio may strive to be;
  • Practically, I am watching the anime series because of Oscar and Tinasha and, as such, the episodes are being entertaining and very good. The anime series direction and screenplay makes grasping -- let alone enjoying -- the very good story Hell tough.
@leonardobarba I have to disagree. The Oscar and Tinasha from the last season (last timeline) were charming. This one they are not. I have yet to see anything from either of these two in this timeline, who should be considered different people, that makes them very likeable or interesting. The closest we got was probably Tinasha cracking some windows because of her hurt feelings. The characterization of these new characters just isn't that good in my opinion. Same with the "villain(s)."

The character designs are fine, but the art and animation quality are not. I don't care about studio competence. I'm not here to watch a slideshow, and it's much worse if the story doesn't engage either because you're less focused on that and more distracted by bad animation and inconsistencies. It was never great, but I feel like it's gotten a bit worse, maybe someone else here can back me up on that. Of course it could just be that the story got worse so I'm noticing it more. In any case, I consider it to be below average for the industry standard (though I guess there are a lot of those). I don't think you can make the argument for "within studio competence," when you seem to agree they are incompetent.

The music is decent. I probably even agree that it's good, but I don't remember it offhand.

You may be mistaking premise for story. I think the setting is interesting, and I enjoyed the first season. The last episode and subsequent S2 completely erased those characters and almost everything that they did from existence, with the exception of T1 Oscar saving (now) T2 Tinasha. So far there have been "plot events" but the series is unfolding more like slice of life at this point rather than a cohesive story, which was not the expectation set by S1. I won't comment on the screenplay or anything like that because I haven't read the source but the direction is sure doing it no favors.

I think the direction is the biggest problem here. It seems like they're trying to squeeze way too much content into too few episodes and everything is suffering because of it. Both S1 and the current "Act 2" S2 should have had more episodes. I don't know how the production side is going but maybe they should have actually split S1 into two cours. The title for this one is "Act 2;" I'm not sure they're going to get the chance for a third though, which would be a pity because if the story is written theatre-style then the current events will be much more important later. Maybe the third act will be such a home run that we say "oh now I see why they spent no time on this part" but right now that seems unlikely; not to mention that would just mean it didn't need to exist or could have better in the first place.

I think those of us who are still watching are all watching to see how Oscar and Tinasha's relationship progresses. Don't get me wrong, I still enjoy the show because I like the setting and I'm invested in seeing what happens to these alternate timeline versions of the characters. I just don't think it's good. I hope further clarification, character development and progression change my mind further down the line.
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Poop this is so poop and butt I don’t like at all it make me not happy and it hurt my feeling
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We meet and Valt yet again. And damn, they omitted a fanservice moment.

I've only read the LN covering this episode so here is my hypothesis on what the red orb is supposed to do.

Remember how Miralys lost her soul in the first season? I bet that the red orb
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Dang, episode 3 and it's already been 4 months. We're speedrunning this timeline. Any novel readers want to let us know how much they cut this time?

leonardobarba said:
Very good episode, despite bad direction and screenplay!

How you can call this good is baffling. I'd understand the last season but this season and especially this episode? Not only did we bulldoze what seemed to be important plot points but we hardly saw any of them in general and the "character progression" is just people suddenly changing how they feel with no warning, buildup or justification.

Good is not a word I'd use to describe it.

phantomfandom said:
I can't feel "love" from this anime. It's not worthy of "romance" tag. The story seems great on paper, lovers across 400 years, but the result on screen doesn't match that ambition.

Totally agree, it's like they went from slow (fast) burn romance with some charm to flat as the Farsas plains.

HOOfan_1 said:
Either way, it's like each episode sets up its own individual arc, and that arc is resolved with not much at all happening, and the characters not doing much of anything.

This is what makes it so bad imo. If they spent even a little bit of time to actually show the characters reacting, thinking, planning, etc it would be much better. Like Delilah, just add Oscar thinking to himself about having suspicions of her or something. I feel like the story is written in second person here, Oscar knows some of what's going on, Tinasha knows some of what's going on, but we as the audience don't get to see any of it so...what's the point of watching then exactly?

chizzie said:
I just can't get behind this show anymore. It's certainly a bold choice plotwise, but when you essentially take away all the character development, as well as memories of any time they ever spent together (because thanks to time line shenanigans they didn't actually spend any time together, only Tinasha did with the other timeline Oscar) from half of the main couple, it's not really the same couple anymore, is it?
And the fact that Oscar's plans are just plain dumb, he constantly thinks he knows better that Tinasha how strong she is, and he constantly hides his plans from her for no apparent reason, which just causes more problems. If they just actually worked together, had any sort of chemistry on screen, everything would be so much better.
But for me this is enough, I'm actually dropping this show. Maybe the light novel is better, fleshed out the characters more, gave more time for the relationship to develop, made Oscar's actions make any actual sense, but maybe not. I ain't reading it either way so that unfortunately has to stay a mystery.
1/5 episode of 5/10 show

Fair and valid. Pop back in for the discussion of ep12 to see if it got any better

Sheol01 said:
Once again, a lot of stuff happened, but it feels like a lot of details are being left out.
On a better note, Oscar realizes he used the orb & changed everyone's timelines. Possibly losing everything to save her.

The question is will it matter in any way?
@SawronZXZ

This episode covers 3 chapters, and should have been 3 or 4 episodes.

From the top of my head:

After Tinasha's battle with Travis, she is bloodied. The episode omitted


Also, in the labyrinth, there are actually


Others are changes in what was shown.

e.g.

In the LN, Delilah first encounters Sylvia and shit talks her, and some minutes after, she meets Tinasha, etc.
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@SawronZXZ

This episode covers 3 chapters, and should have been 3 or 4 episodes.

From the top of my head:

After Tinasha's battle with Travis, she is bloodied. The episode omitted


Also, in the labyrinth, there are actually


Others are changes in what was shown.

e.g.

In the LN, Delilah first encounters Sylvia and shit talks her, and some minutes after, she meets Tinasha, etc.
@patkarunungan How many novels did they adapt in just this many episodes? My answer is too many.
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Even in the new history, both Tinasha and Prince Legis getting their "just desserts" from naysayers trying to kill them, thankfully Tinasha is built for situations such as this. But this still forms an air of uneasiness, especially when he accepts the help of Delilah the fortune teller, which Curve senses discord. At the same time, Mila alerting Oscar about Tinasha getting hurt by Travis, it's only a temporary measure, and to care for someone who has no interest in her, Oscar is being careful on how he treats the new Tinasha before him.

Going back to the Treasury, where the Underground Labyrinth lays bare from Oscar's grandfather's time to deter robbers, this dungeon gives both the grandson and Tinasha more time than they're worth, and the red orb that the Druza cult were after, it seems connected to Tinasha as there's another blue likeness in Tuldarr, which can affect both time and history, as well as the user itself. That should serve as a warning of a history that hides her secrets, even as Oscar tries to assimilate much of what's going on.

Through the mess, Oscar and Tinasha better stay together for most...
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